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Trump Takes Nation By Storm: More Americans Agree With Muslim Ban Than Reject It

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In case you were confused how it is that Donald Trump's polling numbers could increase following his Muslim-ban comments (which have beeen widely denigrated by any and all talking head who can fog a mirror - from The White House down...), here is the "surely not us?" answer.

As The Hill reports, a new post-Trump survey by Rasmussed finds that 46% of likely voters would favor a policy preventing Muslim immigrants from entering the country until tighter screening procedures can be implemented, while only 40% would oppose such a measure.

 

 

In direct opposition to what The White House said (that Trump’s proposal is "totally contrary to our values as Americans,") it is apparent from this survey that the Obama Administration does not know its 'constituents' as well as it may have thought.

Simply put, based on this poll, more Americans - republicans and democrats - support Trump's idea of banning the entry of Muslims into America than oppose it, and now that it is 'polling' as a populist idea, we await Hillary Clinton to jump on the bandwagon.

 

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Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:28 | 6908376 Billy the Poet
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Well just don't let anyone give you a pig in a poke.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 00:48 | 6908745 CheapBastard
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Times have changed and even many of the modern/reformed Jews eat pork now. Everyone knows you have to cook it thoroughly to kill off the parasites in American pork but beside sthat it tastes great! We are no longer living in caves [well, maybe except for the MENA peeples].

 

BTW, Germany feeds its pigs ONLY cooked food so their pork has NO trichinosis parasites and you can eat it less well-cooked I have read.

 

However, better to eat it cooked thoroughly where ever you are ... there's nothing like a well-cooked pork chop!

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:46 | 6907807 hobopants
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It's not a religion, it's a death cult. Muhammad was the Charles Manson of his day, just a bit more succesful.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:46 | 6907834 NihilistZero
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You're talking about the Mormons, right???

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:50 | 6907846 hobopants
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I don't know enough about that particular group to make an assessment.

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:00 | 6907898 McMolotov
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They have magic underwear, so they can't be all bad.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:05 | 6907922 hobopants
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In that case sign me up.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:13 | 6907970 Billy the Poet
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It's not a religion, it's a death cult. Muhammad was the Charles Manson of his day, just a bit more succesful.

 

Why not give up your progressive, statist ways and consider a conservative perspective?

 

From The Freeman:

Mention “Islam” to most Americans and they think of Saddam Hussein or the Ayatollah Khomeini. It is popularly linked to violence and terrorism, which is unfortunate. Far from being synonymous with intolerance and bloodshed, Islam has a history of peace and respect for individual rights. One famous exponent of freedom who knew that was Rose Wilder Lane.

Her original book, The Discovery of Freedom, contains an abundance of information on the golden era of Islamic civilization, particularly the role that free markets played in that remarkably progressive and virtually stateless society. Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad, president of the Minaret of Freedom Institute, an Islamic free-market think tank, has in Islam and the Discovery of Freedom taken Rose Wilder Lane’s original text and added scholarly commentary.

 

http://fee.org/freeman/islam-and-the-discovery-of-freedom/

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:27 | 6907995 hobopants
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Fine I relent, they can all stay at your house ok? You guys can recite verses from the Quran together like this one.

 

"I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" (8:12)

or this gem

"As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help." (3:56)

Or how about this good ole pearl of wisdom?

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."(9:29)

Don't kid yourself, these people have nothing to do with the enlightened caliphates of the past

 But anywho,

Peace be with you my friend.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:31 | 6908072 Billy the Poet
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Fine I relent, they can all stay at your house ok?

 

Is that what the Constitution stipulates?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:44 | 6908089 hobopants
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Yes, yes it does. "Give us your tired, your sick, and your poor, as for the muslims... send them to William the poet." It's all there, in the fine print.

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:48 | 6908153 Billy the Poet
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It's all there, in the fine print.

 

Oh, so you're one of those, "the Constitution is a living document and it can mean anything I want it to mean" types?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:07 | 6908182 hobopants
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I'm one of those think for yourself types who follows the whole common sense thing. Novel concept I know.

Whatever did the founding fathers do without the constitution to guide their way huh? How did they argue without such a crutch to lean against intellectually, poor men must have had to think for themselves, dreadful times indeed.

 

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:08 | 6908277 Billy the Poet
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So in your opinion a strong respect for the Founding Fathers causes you to despise the Constitution they gave us and the freedoms it protects? That's not crazy.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:28 | 6908315 hobopants
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Oh King Billy, the reason for your affection for the mohammedans becomes all the clearer. You are both strict adherents to the written word of those who passed generations before you. The founding fathers were wise men but they were not gods, men are fallible. I admire the intellectual spirit of our founding fathers, one which was born in questioning authority (gasp). As far as the constitution goes, it's a great read, but it could be better.

"causes you to despise the Constitution they gave us"

The reverence in that sentence gave me the shivers, like a gift from God you mean? haha.

We'll be erecting a pantheon soon it seems. I suggest we put Franklin front and center, what do you think?

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:32 | 6908401 Billy the Poet
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It isn't Muslims that Americans for their freedoms, it's you.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:35 | 6908417 hobopants
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And I thought we were destined to be fast friends, oh well. I like your username at least.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 03:07 | 6909004 scaleindependent
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Surprised and saddened so many take the Bill of Rights and our Constitution for granted.

I thought you all were conservatives?

Anyways,  the U.S. Constitution was our philosophical and intellectual foundation for our greatness. Nowdays not so much I gather.

BUT IT IS STILL OUR LEGAL FOUNDATION AND IF YOU WANT TO GET RID OF IT THEN PASS ANOTHER DAMN AMENDMENT AND GET a 2/3 VOTE, BUT UNTIL THEN YOU HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT. It is the law.

Like Smedley Butler said, the only reason to fight and die is to defend the constitution of these United States.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 02:00 | 6908916 cheech_wizard
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>Is that what the Constitution stipulates?

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Doesn't mention a thing about Muslims... Open your home Billy.

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:36 | 6908099 tumblemore
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read it yourself - don't read propaganda about it - read the thing itself

 

it explicitly stipulates war against non muslims to institute sharia law

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:43 | 6908131 TeamDepends
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Okay Billy, now you jumped the shark. Islam, as it exists today, as it is described in the Koran, is the golden promised-land of freedom FOR FEMALES?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:50 | 6908160 Billy the Poet
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Okay Billy, now you jumped the shark. Islam, as it exists today, as it is described in the Koran, is the golden promised-land of freedom FOR FEMALES?

Did I say that? You're seeing imaginary sharks, dude.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 05:59 | 6909191 Flagit
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In March 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:

"It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once." [22]

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:33 | 6908080 RiverRoad
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Somewhere Charles Manson is smiling:  Helter Skelter it is.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 05:43 | 6909175 Kobe Beef
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Diversity + Proximity = WAR

You don't need to be Charles Manson to understand population biology applies to domesticated primates too.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:04 | 6908256 zeronetwork
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When there are more then one and a half billion followers, definition of cult does not apply.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:45 | 6907831 nmewn
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So this must mean the Sunni jihadists will stop "discriminating" against the Shia, Yazidi, Buddhists, Christians etal?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:17 | 6907997 Billy the Poet
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Why do you believe that the protection of religious freedom provided by the  US Constitution should be set aside and that Americans should live according to the standards of Sunni jihadists?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:38 | 6908111 tumblemore
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is sharia law compatible with the US constitution?

 

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:53 | 6908181 Billy the Poet
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The First Amendment stands no matter how much you revile it.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 02:02 | 6908918 cheech_wizard
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Does the First Amendment stand outside the borders of the US?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:06 | 6907931 Singelguy
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Have you been to Saudi Arabia. Go try to build a church in that country if you dare. But the Saudis are covering the cost of building mosques all over the western world. That is classic religious discrimination. But wait! They are our allies!

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:14 | 6907982 stacking12321
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so, your solution then, is that you want to bring the usa down to the saudis' level?

because they have an intolerant, backwards, fucked up society, we should have one too?

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:18 | 6907999 Billy the Poet
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Apparently some of these folks do think that way. They say so over and over again.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:39 | 6908117 tumblemore
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that is your solution - by bringing them to your country you bring their society

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:54 | 6908190 Billy the Poet
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Please list in detail the occasions on which you have been forced to practice Sharia Law.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 00:13 | 6908603 stacking12321
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no, it is not, don't put words in my mouth. i don't favor bringing "them", and i sure as hell don't favor the feds having the power to make the determination as to who is a muslim, it's ludicrous to suggest they should be in that business.

 

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:23 | 6908030 EINSILVERGUY
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IT can be argued that Islam is not a religion but a political force

This guys does a great job of breaking it down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBDDC4wVxk

 

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:02 | 6908249 orez65
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Wake the fu.k up!

Islam is not just a religion it is a system of government.

It is not of the Western World. It is a Pandora Box that was opened by that shit head, George Bush.

You left wing shit heads are bringing millions of mini Trojan Horses to the West.

We don't need the Muslims, there is no upside it is all downside.

Wake the fu.k up!

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:09 | 6908281 zeronetwork
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I must agree with you. You have no idea ignorant american are how stupid.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 02:06 | 6908924 Deathrips
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Yeah..and all the right wing shitheads serve Israel too.... So there!

 

RIPS

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 06:24 | 6909218 MoneyThimbles
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So the current discrimination against Christianity, well established in the mainstream press, is actually what's enabling criticism of Islam?

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:29 | 6908063 Shadow1275
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Shouldn't they really be called regressives? I mean most of their policies tend to backfire

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:17 | 6908320 Sanity Bear
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Being wrong is allowed.

 

Swearing allegiance to an omnicidal death cult, not so much.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 02:30 | 6908967 stacking12321
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Swearing allegiance to an omnicidal death cult, not so much.

school children in this country every goddamned day swear allegiance to an omnicidal death cult:

I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 01:34 | 6908848 FireBrander
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Ban Catholics too! And let's toss out the one's already here...Catholic Charities has imported a small army of African Muslims from such peaceful places as Sudan; and they made Omaha Nebraska feel just like their old war torn african villages...and Catholic Charities is pushing for the 100,000 Syrian importation.

Does anyone have any numbers on how many Syrian refugees are staying at the Vatican?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:27 | 6907720 Manthong
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But.. but.. but..

Everyone in DC and in the media tells me “that’s not who we are”..

Who am I ?

I’m so confused.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:30 | 6907739 TeamDepends
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Pop a couple yeswecans and fire up some hopium. It will all become crystal clear.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:32 | 6907751 ebworthen
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I'd wager my left nut that Suckerberg and his Wifey never-ever host a Muslim immigrant family in their home to:  eat their food, sleep in their beds, and crap in their toilets. 

Idealism and propping your self-concept with gestures and words is easy, reality not so much.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:41 | 6907810 RiverRoad
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Especially not with a new baby and all.  Besides she's a nursing mother.  Gotta watch them; they can turn into terrorists.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:57 | 6907865 TeamDepends
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She could offer them the other breast. You know, put her tits where Zucky's mouth is? For the cause of multi-culturalism? Seems a small price to pay.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:38 | 6908112 847328_3527
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You sound like a non-believer. We can fit you into the beheadings schdeuled for Monday at 2pm.

 

Please don't be late because we have a full schedule.

Beheading at 2pm and your meeting with the Virgins directly after at 2:15pm.

 

Your cooperation would be appreciated.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 02:07 | 6908927 Deathrips
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Youre talking about the son of Rothschild. Zuck007 the secret theif agent.

 

RIPS

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:05 | 6908259 orez65
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Muslim loving leberals are the inhabitants of the Planet of the Apes.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:36 | 6907770 Crawdaddy
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Veriton What is with the "I am" on your About page?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:01 | 6907906 SILVERGEDDON
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Everything is Disneyland now.

Trumpie, the most charismatic one of the Seven Dwarfs, will lead the nation to victory over the Wicked Witch of The East.

Or, the flying monkeys will carry him away by his hair, if it is real.

Or, all the other dwarfs catch him in the sack with Snow White.

Or, he does a a fake or a real " Mission Accomplished " - doesn't matter which.

Or, he does Thunderdome with Putin for all the marbles on pay for view TEE VEE

Two men in, one man out....................

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 20:58 | 6907592 goldhedge
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Most people in the UK are too scared of the pc brigade to say what they really think.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:47 | 6908148 YHC-FTSE
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Fuck off. If there's a country driven by fear, paranoia, ignorance and the mentally retarded, it's the MIC across the pond and you fucking know it.

I've got a LOT of complaints about my nation: The City, the royal entitlement brigade, the Rothchilds, the politicians with their heads up the arse of every US president, more politicians on the "Friends of Israel" payroll, the embarrassment of being the quaint antique shop of the world.... the list is long and shameful. But as a people, we mostly subscribe to "Grace and humour under pressure". We don't do hysterics, even when the papers tell us to go to extremes. Not in any social circle I inhabit. When the latest nutjob started stabbing people at Leytonstone tube the other day, somebody shouted, "#youaintnomuslimbruv" which brought us back to reality. That's the way we roll. Mock us for our teeth and accents, but we're not scared to express our views.

I get it. Most of you bought the Zionist-neocon false flags and the constant drip of hate in the msm. You bought the sub-human muslim theme and the incompatibility of Islam with civilization hook, line and sinker. Islam, just like Judaism and Christianity is just another silly religion with billions of decent people following it and a bunch of nutjobs attached. The exact same sub-human theme and incompatibility was expressed in 1930's Germany about the Jews, yet surely we know better by now?

Over almost 6yrs of posting at ZH, I've been falsely accused of being a muzziecunt, a yid-lover, a chicom, a nigger, a limey faggot and a papist. Only the last one is true and it's all because I can't fucking stand injustice and criminals in any form. I criticize Israel and the zionists all the time, but I'll be the first to stand outside to shield a synagogue if a bunch of pricks started to attack it. I can't fucking stand warmongers and moronic pricks who believe complex problems can only be solved with mass murder because I've seen what the insane violence of war can do to innocents. There is no justice, romance or glamour in war, just shit, piss, blood and tears.

Yet, the fucking scared cunts continue to incite even more hatred to those "we" have bombed and killed, subjugated and humiliated, invaded and ransacked all over the fucking middle east for decades. Fuck me, we are often more cruel to those we have wronged.

I am going to get a lot of flack for this, but muslims are just people. Most I've personally known have been pretty decent. Some, like the Saudis have been fucking annoying, but people all the same (Maybe not those Wahhabist cunts). If we continue down this path of hate, there is only one way this can be extrapolated: Genocide of innocent people. Ethnic cleansing from large sections of the planet. You can leave me out of that shit. Think about it. Get a grip. Try to be motivated by the people and things you love, not this.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:14 | 6908308 orez65
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Oh yes, Saudi Arabia is such a loving and tolerant country.

My company used to send engineers and technicians there becuase those fu.kers just pray all day and just don't like to work.

But we were not allowed to "mix with the population". We lived in segregated compounds to keep us infidel Christians away from the "true beiievers".

I don't desire any harm to any Muslims. Come and visit the US if you like. We will even let you visit in the same neighborhoods that we live. Just don't stay too long. 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:37 | 6908420 YHC-FTSE
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"Some, like the Saudis have been fucking annoying, but people all the same (Maybe not those Wahhabist cunts)."

Which part of this sentence did you interpret as, "Saudi Arabia is such a loving and tolerant country."?

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 00:01 | 6908532 Omen IV
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Muslims i agree with you - Saudi Wahhabism spreading chaos not- Look this is an economic mercenary coalition with ad hoc groups at the front - not Muslims  - all promoted by the USA, Turkey, SA, Qatar, UK, France

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 08:14 | 6909381 Grimaldus
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Mohamed ordered 900 men and boys lined up and beheaded. Then raped the wives of the beheaded men. That is alot of hate.

Muslims worship Mohamed and his hatred.

You are a progressive dhimmwit fool.

 

 

 

 

Grimaldus

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:02 | 6907593 goldhedge
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Or that they want the UK to become an Islamic shit hole.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:20 | 6907661 NoDebt
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You may be closer to the truth than you know.  The elites want a certain level of violence in the society.  It works to their political advantage in many ways (both sides).  If they don't stir the pot governing the country would be rather boring and they NEED chaos to work their plans.

Gun violence isn't working all that well for them because it's worst effects are in the inner cities in largely black populations whose votes are already locked in (despite how they try to spin it as being everywhere in society).  But Muzzie Terrists?  Shit, man, they could shoot up a mall full of white people!  That brings the threat of violence and chaos they need to a whole different demographic.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:22 | 6907696 ToSoft4Truth
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A schizophrenic mass delusion is what I'm root'in for. 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:25 | 6907705 NoDebt
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You're already in it.  The question is how do we get out?  Do enough people even want to?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:28 | 6907726 ToSoft4Truth
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We need to take this up a few notches.

Get ready, it’s coming.   

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:40 | 6907800 willwork4food
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One of the reasons the UK fear the government is because there have been draconian laws in place for decades that are now becoming fashionable to the US .gov.

Got a problem with policy? Are you vocal? Do you have influence? Better make sure you have some extra cash on hand to hire a tax attorney when the IRS rams a notice up your butt one day out of the blue.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:11 | 6907960 ToSoft4Truth
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Sadly, you are correct.  Might as well live on a beach and surf the EBT wave. 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:32 | 6908078 Solomonpal
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Can we wait until after Super Bowl?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:35 | 6907777 yrad
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Paris is a disaster. I have been 4 times in the past 8 years. One of the greatest cities in history has been transformed into a Gypsy nightmare. I was robbed of my brown bag of fine Parisian chocolates under the Eifel Tower in '09.

Ban them or burn them. Whatever works best.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:00 | 6907594 goldhedge
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Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:00 | 6907597 G.O.O.D
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sad? listen bbear, I have had many dealings with the vermin from Pakistan and if the complete country was wiped in a nuclear attack I would celebrate. The muslims are as bad or worse than the juice.

#nukeemall

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:24 | 6907704 Crtrvlt
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And you're no different than "them"

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:28 | 6907728 G.O.O.D
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Hell if I am not, I will leave you alone. I dont care if you like fucking pigs or eating goat assholes, just dont force your shit on me. THAT is the difference.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:35 | 6907776 Crtrvlt
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"Don't force your shit on me "

Like the white trash "Christian" taliban in this country?

You know who would celebrate a nuclear bomb wiping out the USA ? The psycho "Muslim" extremists .

So yes you are no different

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:39 | 6907799 G.O.O.D
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Shit, you think the muslims are the ONLY ones that would celebrate the destruction of the USA?

 

 You are a bit naive, most of the world would celebrate, and rightly so.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:01 | 6907905 Crtrvlt
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Yea the extremists which aren't bound to any race or religion

"Rightfully so " yea lets celebrate the death of 350 million people

Wtf is wrong with you

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:25 | 6908040 stacking12321
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GOOD, you are a liar, plain and simple.

in your first statement, you say you favor nuking pakistan.

in your second statement you say that you're not like them because you will "leave them alone".

are you really so mentally challenged that you can't comprehend the contradiction in your own words?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:22 | 6908346 CheapBastard
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Speaking of ....

 

The son of a Pakistani diplomat was charged with raping a 13-year-old Bronx girl and sexually abusing another teen, officials said Wednesday.

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/diplomats-son-charged-with-raping-13-ye...

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 00:19 | 6908633 TeamDepends
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The religion of piece.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:40 | 6907803 NoDebt
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I think you just tried to shove a whole lotta words in that man's mouth that he never said.  Poor form.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:42 | 6907815 G.O.O.D
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The trailer trash cut off your head if you are not also trailer trash? Are you insane? I haven't read the trailer trash manifesto I guess?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:53 | 6907863 e_goldstein
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It's more of an oral tradition.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:00 | 6907897 Crtrvlt
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There is NO difference between people in this country calling for
Death to all Muslims and people in the middle east calling for
Death to all Christians and Jews

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:23 | 6908024 G.O.O.D
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Sure there is and here is the difference. I wont cut off your head if you don't worship Mohammad and I wont cut out you liver and sell it on the black market. To those that do these things to others, I say kill the sick fvks. Are we clear?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:34 | 6908088 Crtrvlt
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You literally just said you would rejoice if everyone in Pakistan was killed

And you say that as your country hasn't been bombed to shreds for decades. Turn the tables and you tell me if there would be a difference . There would be none

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:46 | 6908145 G.O.O.D
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This struggle goes way back further than you and I have been alive and will be going way after we are dead, so yes, fvk them and if they were maybe JUST MAYBE a bit less radical with their religions, ALL 3! shit might be different, but knowing the human race as well as I do, there would be something else to kill each other over sure as i sit here typing. In war my friend,, there are no good guys.. get it?

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 00:32 | 6908682 MEFOBILLS
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Before Islam, the pakistan region was Hindu.  Islam invaded and converted.  Pakistan separation became required.  Read up on some of that history.

Millions upon millions of Hindus were murdered by the Islamic invaders.

Some say that the word Hindu Kush means Hindu death, as the Kush region was a killing field.

http://www.hindunet.org/hindu_history/modern/hindu_kush.html

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 06:31 | 6909230 Johnny Horscaulk
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The black market for organs is centered in Israel - which has actively supported ISIS.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 06:31 | 6909231 Johnny Horscaulk
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The black market for organs is centered in Israel - which has actively supported ISIS.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:02 | 6907607 flaunt
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I know it's difficult to believe with all the many years of lies in the past but sometimes the threat is real. 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:08 | 6907631 Quasi
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Yeah, gunning down innocent people at Christmas parties, concert halls, and restaurants tends to do that. But those dead victims are just racists. The solution is that we just aren't importing enough psychotic killers who view people of a different religion as cattle to be slaughtered mercilessly.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:14 | 6907655 Demdere
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Given that American police kill Americans at 50X the rate that Muslims kill Americans, on a per-person basis, I think you are focusing on the wrong problem.

Given that Israeli-Neocons killed 3K Americans in cold blood in the 9/11 False Flag operation run by the US government under their control, and not nearly that many have been killed before or after by Muslim terrorists here at home, I am am nearly cerain of that.

If they allow peace, they hang.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/12/08/the-next-nuremberg-trials/

9/11 was a False Flag operation by the Israeli-Neocons in the US Government

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:21 | 6907687 Quasi
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Soooo.... I wasn't blaming the Jews enough?  

Gotta love that learned discourse that modern ZeroHedge offers.

Fine. Import more psychos. After all, Hebrew National only puts 7 hot dogs in a package instead of 8. Clearly they are the bigger problem.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:53 | 6907852 Usurious
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maybe we are kicking out the wrong race/religion.........how many countries kicked out the jews again? 100 108....maybe we should think this thru and figure out what is really going on.....

''In 1290, King Edward I issued an edict expelling all Jews from England. The expulsion edict remained in force for the rest of the Middle Ages. The edict was not an isolated incident, but the culmination of over 200 years of increased persecution. Oliver Cromwell permitted Jews to return to England in 1657, over 360 years after their banishment by Edward I, in exchange for finance.''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Expulsion

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:09 | 6908284 Quasi
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I'm not saying out hook-nosed "friends" aren't a problem. I'm simply saying that just because one group is or isn't worse than another group doesn't mean you should ignore the problems with the other one. Hell, give both of them the boot for all I care. Just don't ignore the crimes of one because another is "worse". It's like saying we shouldn't call Cuba a bad place to live because North Kora is worse.

And I know very well how nearly all countries have historically always tried with varying degrees of success to keep Jews away. The prime example is the ship that left Nazi Germany laden with Jews fleeing persecution. Every country on Earth refused to let them unload. Every. Single. Country.

They eventually returned to Germany were they were forced to eat their valuables, shit them out, and repeat while waiting for death in the camps. Every country that refused them entry knew that was going to happen to them but refused anyway. Food for though.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 00:53 | 6908751 MEFOBILLS
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Dr. Bill Warner has estimated upwards of 200 million people have been murdered by Islam.  It is probably higher than that as he lists 120 million from Africa, where I peg it at around 200 million.

Islam liked to take slaves out of East Africa.  They had tent cities all along the North African Coast.  There they would castrate negro males, which included cutting off both penis and testicles.

This created Eunichs, and said Eunichs would only last about 7 years before they were worked to death.  Women were put in special tents and Arab men would test their vaginas for suitablity as sex slaves.  Black women would be handed from family to family as property.  That their DNA is not expressed in today's Arab population means that arab/black babies were terminated.

Probably 80 million were killed in Hindu Kush.  Persians who converted helped the Arabs murder hindu unbelievers.

Afghanistan used to be Budhist.  So much for the mythical "tough" Afghani soldier.  Afghanistan submitted.

Post Medina Islam has a deal: submit or die.  If you submit to the Jizzya tax, then you become a second class citizen in the land of your birth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjBDDC4wVxk

Just because Judaism is predatory doesn't excuse Islam.  That the U.S. has had its brain center parastized with Zionism doesn't automatically make Islam winsome by comparison.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:09 | 6907634 jez
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Would somebody please beat earnest Josh Earnest about the head with that long red bar?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:10 | 6907644 chubbar
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It's not fear nearly as much as frustration. Every administration since Reagan has REFUSED to control illegal immigration into our country and people are pretty fucking sick of it.

This country has immigration laws that have been blatantly ignored by both parties. We have not been consulted about this and most folks I talk to want it to stop.

Press 2 if you want to hear that in Spanish?

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:22 | 6907695 Savyindallas
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The Jews decided in the 1930's to organize a massive immigation program to dilute white Christians  -because it created a more favorable environment for Jews to prosper and control things. That is fact-not conspiracy. 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:40 | 6907754 BullyBearish
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Get enlightened...compare the "West's" immigration policies with Israel's...

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:46 | 6907835 TeamDepends
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They were plotting the goys destruction long before that, but you are right. Just found a stunning vid on youtube titled The Harold Wallace Rosenthal Interview 1976. In it Rosenthal, who was pretty high up the ladder, candidly admits that jews are "parasites" and "gods' chosen people" and that the god in question is "Lucifer". If you junk this post, ask yourself why.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:15 | 6907987 Crawdaddy
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TD - I'll find that interview later & watch it.

In the mean time, here is a link to what I think explains the "bad guy behind the curtain".

"They" have a lock on media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA0tkSj2pU0

 

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:23 | 6907699 Miss Expectations
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Press 2 if you want to hear that in English

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:13 | 6907650 nmewn
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Its not fear, it's prudence. Fear would be banning all middle easterners, which is not what he said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8OrhALCXJQ ;-)

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:17 | 6907668 Demdere
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It is fear.  The actual number of deaths from Muslims in the US is far less than innocents killed by our police.

This is Israeli-neocon propaganda.  They need the wars and chaos and terror to keep their heads.  If they lose power, they go on trial.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:20 | 6907681 nmewn
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No its not, I'm not afraid are you?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:25 | 6907715 G.O.O.D
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I sure as hell am. You call the cops and you are taking a huge chance. You have the option: A decent beatting with accompanied taze, or shot 68 times crossing the street.

 

N E V E R call the cops! Ever..

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:30 | 6907745 nmewn
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I can't even remember the last time I called the cops.

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:36 | 6907785 G.O.O.D
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We had a pretty cool cop (one) here in town actually and I called him when we had two mean ass dogs packed up and terrorizing the neighborhood. But, if the laws were that I could shoot in town, I would have 12 gauged those bastards.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:24 | 6907707 847328_3527
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ISIS Beheading 4 Kurdish / Peshmerga Soldiers - Graphic Video

 

http://www.zerocensorship.com/t/uncensored-beheading-video/185382-isis-b...

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:53 | 6908174 tumblemore
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Most Jews (in the public domain) want both unlimited mass immigration into western countries and neocon wars against Israel's enemies. You can see it now with the entire Jewish media attacking Trump over it - even Netanyahu is attacking him even though Israel has a much stricter immigration policy.

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:43 | 6908444 dexter_morgan
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I'm not following your point - yes elitist Jews want more immigration, even muslims, in THIS country but not in their country. Why do they want that? For the benefit of THIS country, or for their benefit in looting this country? Where is their allegiance - US or Israel?

Immigration laws are meant to benefit a nation, not just a ruling class of elitists. 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:33 | 6908405 dexter_morgan
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Muslims in the US is far less than innocents killed by our police

So far, but the invasion has just begun.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:29 | 6907734 Dancing Disraeli
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Doesn't go nearly far enough, but a decent first step.  What we need is a complete 10 year moratorium on ALL immigration, including H1-b visas.  We did this before, between 1924 and 1965.  Just as during that time, we need a break to assimilate the many millions of immigrants we currently have.  BTW, a nation's immigration policy is supposed to benefit that nation.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:57 | 6907881 Chris88
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Socialists love to inhibit the free mobility of capital and labor.  You're that scared?  Pathetic coward.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:56 | 6908199 tumblemore
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patriots also - whereas traitors love opening borders as much as they used to love opening city gates

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 00:21 | 6908641 Chris88
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I'm not even disagreeing on the desire to have Muslims banned, simply the sheer cowardnice at people willing to provide more control to the State because of a bogeyman (a government created one nonetheless).  Private property rights and an armed society solve the issue of douchebag terrorists.  I can't help but laugh at the reactionary crap that is passed off as a solution, and sure it'll elicit a great deal of support because emotions are running high after 14 people were killed by 3 scumbags.  Doesn't make me clamor for more government retardation.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 01:26 | 6908835 mkkby
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Jeezus, you are FUCKING STUPID. Put down the bag of goat cocks and use your one brain cell.

The muzzies are waging a war against anyone who doesn't worship their god in their particular way.  Do you get that?  YOU PERSONALLY are at war.  You get beheaded if you worship any other god (or no god), or even the wrong Islamic sect.

In a war, the goal is to win.  Not lose.  Therefore, you don't bring home soldiers from the other side and let them live next door to you.  That is simply common sense.

Now you can be a good little social justice warrior and call people cowards.  But a logical argument Trumps that every time... pun intended.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 10:13 | 6909803 Chris88
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I'm an AnCap, probably the antithesis of social justice you ass clown.  I'm more afraid of the government power grab resulting from the attack, than the actual attack itself.  I guess I just realize the government couldn't fall out of a boat and hit water, so why bother giving them more power and control over people when it's only going to fuck my wallet and my freedom more in some way?  ISIS cannot fight a real army, they cannot fight armed people, they murder and rape unarmed women and children.  If government worked, NSA records all electronic communications, so why didn't they catch two people, one of whom was here ona  visa, watching a shit load of ISIS videos, getting a $28,000 consumer loan etc.?  Oh yeah, government is really keeping you safe.  You know what Trump could've said if he wasn't a Statist?  "I will pardon anybody, automatically, who open or conceal carries a weapon in the US and will therefore ensure there is never an impingement on the second amendment."  Enjoy your nanny state, don't worry I'm sure mommy government will do better next time.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:10 | 6908289 jomama
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hahahahaha, ironic that most of these cretins are saying it isn't 'hate speech' Trump spews, but it's TRUTH.

 

But when real truth is shoved in their face they deny it.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:55 | 6908192 tumblemore
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Yes that would be better.

1) Integration takes time and if you've had too much immigration then you need to stop for a bit and digest.

2) Mass immigration has been slowly destroying the economy by driving wages down. Stop immigration and let employment grow.

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:37 | 6907787 Luc X. Ifer
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Yeah dude - fear of criminal beasts is the survival trait of the selected smart, the dumbs are the extinct meat ...

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:47 | 6907836 logicalman
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A little context.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CV2_4fcWwAAkPEJ.jpg:large

It's fucking propaganda, folks!

Don't fall for it - time to go after those truly responsible for mass murder and corruption.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:37 | 6908109 FreeNewEnergy
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Logic seems to be running a very close second, though.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:32 | 6908400 Larry Dallas
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Thanks God Americans support Trump on this. I was beginning to think America lost its fundamental and rebellious balls.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 03:32 | 6909032 Gold Eyed Cat
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Fear BB?  I'm not AFRAID.  I just happen to think it is idiotic to pile more immigrants into our welfare system.  We can't afford it!  

That viewpoint doesn't make me AFRAID, or racist, or sexist, or a pedophile, or a homophobe, or a bigot, or whatever bullshit name you want to throw at me.  Saying people are acting out of fear, in order to invalidate their point of view is what's really "sad".

Maybe we are just nice normal people that are no longer willing or able to support a crushing welfare / healthcare system. I agree with The Donald on this one.  Shut down the borders please.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 04:52 | 6909108 HardAssets
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You did notice the wording of the statement ? It only makes sense that proper screening methods be in place to secure a nations borders - before people get in.
Political correctness has dumbed people down to the point that they will not protect themselves or their nation.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 20:57 | 6907580 booboo
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So does reality. Hillary just announced a bounty on Muslim foreskins,

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:01 | 6907599 lakecity55
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Bath House is a Muslim secret agent. Of course. Actual Americans oppose terrist importation.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:28 | 6907729 bamawatson
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nothing secret about it. even ray charles n stevie wonder can see imam b hussein homobama

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:51 | 6908488 Pareto
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+100  "Bath House"....still after years....makes me chuckle.  nice one LC55 he he hee

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:01 | 6907600 Rainman
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Jimmy Carter did same to Iranians and not a peep out of lib corp media about that old 'monster'

                     http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261062/carter-banned-iranians-coming-us-during-hostage-daniel-greenfield

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:08 | 6907624 NoDebt
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Exactly right.  I was going to post about that, too.  Not only did he ban them coming in during the hostage crisis he also threw a bunch of them OUT, too.

 

 

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:29 | 6907736 man of Wool
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Islam is a religion, Iran is a country. You can't enforce such a measure unless you really do want to piss off the rest of the world.

Simple solutions to complex problems rarely work and this one will remain a fantasy.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:37 | 6907788 NoDebt
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First off, the rest of the world already hates us and with good reason.

Second, many other countries already have limits on where and what groups of people they will allow to immigrate.

Third, if this really ruffles your feathers, I'd be just fine with treating everyone equally by shutting down all immigration.

 

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:04 | 6908254 jomama
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I'd be just fine with treating everyone equally by shutting down all immigration.

You really think that's enforcable?

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 00:33 | 6908690 NoDebt
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Yes.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:00 | 6907888 Ness.
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According to the CIA World Factbook, around 90–95%[1] of Iranians associate themselves with the Shi'a branch of Islam, the official state religion, and about 5–10% with the Sunni and Sufi branches of Islam. The remaining 0.6% associate themselves with non-Islamic religious minorities, including Bahá'ísMandeansYarsanisZoroastriansJews, and Christians.

 

Google is easier than math.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:58 | 6908218 tumblemore
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simple solution then - have a moratorium on all immigration

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:34 | 6907775 man of Wool
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Islam is a religion, Iran is a country. You can't enforce such a measure unless you really do want to piss off the rest of the world.

Simple solutions to complex problems rarely work and this one will remain a fantasy.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 22:45 | 6908140 RiverRoad
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ISIS is an Islamic STATE, a country  whose borders expand daily.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 23:44 | 6908377 dexter_morgan
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It is NOT just a religion or nobody would be concerned about it, it is a political , social, and religious system of THEOCRACY to be brought in with force if necessary. Do some reading of their own holy books. 

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 00:57 | 6908765 Bazza McKenzie
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Why on earth would the Chinese, or the Indians, or the Russians, or most of South America, or the Thais, or the Vietnamese, or the Japanese, or the Koreans, or the Poles, or the Hungarians, or most of Africa be pissed off about it?

The only people pissed off would be muslims (i.e. the perps) and a few scummy libs in Europe and the US.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:04 | 6907610 Dr. Bonzo
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These fucking surveys are so useless. I'd like to see what percentage of "Oppose" side are 1st generation immigrants themselves. Just like that petition to ban Trump from UK. The UK has a muslim population of millions. Any wonder they can get 300k morons to sign? Wouldn't surprise me if north of 70% are first generation immigrants.

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:05 | 6907621 de3de8
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Could this be the when the little people are heard?

Thu, 12/10/2015 - 21:09 | 6907638 NoDebt
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Optimist.

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