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Putin Orders Military To "Immediately Destroy" Any Threat To Russian Forces
Russian President Vladimir Putin has ratcheted up the rhetoric in what appears to be one step closer to the potential for direct conflict with The West. While not detailing 'who' he was focued on, amid the obvious Turkey-Russia tensions, Putin told a session of the Defense Ministry's collegium that "I order to act extremely tough. Any targets that threaten Russian forces or our infrastructure on the ground should be immediately destroyed."
During the meeting of the most senior defense officials, ITAR TASS reports that Putin also warned against "those who will again try to organize any provocations against our servicemen."
"We have already taken additional measures to ensure security of Russian servicemen and air base. It was strengthened by new aviation groups and missile defense systems. Strike aircraft will now carry out operations under cover of fighter jets,"
Putin said that the Russian military have caused a substantial damage to terrorists in Syria, adding that the actions of the Russian Armed Forces are worthy of praise.
"The combined operation of the Aerospace Defence Forces and the Navy, the use of newest high precision weapons systems has caused a serious damage to the terrorist infrastructure, thus qualitatively changing the situation in Syria," the president said.
The president also ordered the defense ministry to coordinate actions in Syria with Israel’s command post and the US-led international coalition.
"It’s important to develop cooperation with all countries really interested in destroying terrorists. I am talking about contacts on ensuring flight safety with the command post of Israel’s air force and forces of the US-led coalition," Putin said.
According to the official, terrorists in Syria pose a direct threat to Russia and Moscow’s actions are carried out to protect the country rather than due to abstract interests.
"Our soldiers in Syria are, first and foremost, defending their country. Our actions there aren’t motivated by some obscure and abstract geopolitical interests or a desire to train our forces and test new weapons – which is of course an important goal as well. Our main objective is to avert a threat to the Russian Federation,"
As we noted previously, The Kremlin looks prepared not only to stay the course, but to ramp up the deployment. Not only is Moscow hitting terrorist targets with cruise missiles from Russia’s Caspian Fleet, but now, Moscow is shooting at ISIS from a submarine in what can only be described as an effort by Putin to use Syria as a testing ground for Russia’s long dormant military juggernaut (after all, you don’t really need to shoot at a group that doesn’t have an air force or a navy from a sub).
On that note, we present the following update graphic prepared by Louis Martin-Vézian of CIGeography as post at The Aviationst. It documents the scope of Russia’s operation in the Mid-East and should give you an idea of just how committed Moscow is to the fight.
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Does that mean to destroy Turkey?
This dude is not afraid to take responsibility and give the actual order.
Looney
I don't see putins actions as worse than any western leader. he is much more respectable.
"Putin Orders Military To "Immediately Destroy" Any Threat To Russian Forces"
Well, I suppose that means that Obama's "sneakers on the ground" are safe then.
Not only that --->
Putin Goes Ballistic With Nuclear Threat Against ISIS, Russia Will Not Tolerate NATO Interferencehttp://themillenniumreport.com/2015/12/putin-in-threat-to-nuke-isis-with-submarine-warheads-if-airstrikes-fail-to-wipe-out-terror/
He's armed his jets with air-to-air missles and so they can defend themselves and can attack Turkey's new aquisitions:
"Boeing has completed delivery of the last of four Peace Eagle Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) aircraft to Turkey."
According to Putin's latest, they will be blown out of the sky should they even take off.
Damn those Boeing bastards again. Boeing seems to have a hard-on for Turkey. Boeing has a hand in anti-US terror (un-interruptable auto pilot - re: Northwoods, 9/11, MH-370.)
Fucking merchants of death. To hell with the lot of them.
Russia is getting ready to swat some planes outta the sky. This rhetoric is just a prequalifier to it.
Regarding.. AEW.. Peace Eagle
I’ve done that work in older platforms years ago.
You do not want to be in one of those things if push comes to shove.
They are Peace Sitting Ducks if you do not control the skies.
..or maybe turkeys.. which reminds me Vlad owes Turkey and payback is a bitch.
Meanwhile, if this is fake they got a god damn Kubrick clone. If real, which it appears to be then...well...holy fuck. This just came out so hard to verify. I'd heard the rumors but god damn. Not surprising yet mind blowing all the same.
http://yournewswire.com/stanley-kubrick-confesses-to-faking-the-moon-lan...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3337692/Thousands-Donald-Trump-s...
I have looked A LOT into this Kubrick/Apollo program 'conspiracy'. Well, let me just say the forum where I posted all my information is no LONGER ONLINE! Yeah. Coincidence. Hmmm... There is A TON of info showing Kubrick's NASA connections, showing the hints he left in his films (I'll give you two, The Shining was released 11 years after Apollo 11, and Eyes Wide Shut was released on THE 30 year anniversary of the Apollo 'manned' Moon landing).
In 'The Shining', the famous line is: "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy."
Kubrick = Jack. All work = A11 Work (Apollo 11)
A11 work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. There are dozens more. Fuckin fantastic.
Seems like this will be a game changer in terms of people's confidence/trust in government. Even I had next to none and now even that little whisper of confidence is gone. This is the biggest news piece in the past 50 years and IMO might blow open everything from 9/11 to JFK and beyond. How can one believe a thing anymore?! That's fucking Kubrick admitting it on freaking video!!!! Non-disclosure agreement for 15 years after his death. He completes Eyes Wide Shut and then does right after.
Eyes Wide Shut broke open the elite ritual sex party stuff before the IMF guy who was accused of rape admitted to those kinds of parties. His name escapes me at the moment but holy shit is my mind blown!!!
Dom Strauss Kahn.
Yep, Kubrick even used a Rothschild mansion for the orgy scene, so that people who had that kind of thirst for knowledge would find a 'trail of crumbs'. And supposedly Kubrick was "obsessed with conspiracy theories" (the anecdote comes from his daughter, who says he bought him essentially a conspiracy encyclopaedia).
Yeah, well it's looking like this video is a fake with an actor. Doesn't make moon landing legit, but it's annoying that it seems fake. His widow is denying it's real. God damn it.
Well, his wife is the niece of Veit Harlan, Nazi propagandist (Jud Suss, etc). She has blood connection to a famous government propagandist, and she married a man who ("allegedly") was hired to fake the manned Moon landing, which if true, is the greatest propaganda victory in human history. She wants to live, so she will deny it.
Between what happened to Stanley's daughter (kidnapped by Scientology) and Vernon Walters, there is enough to go on without this interview, but it looks real enough to me. Show me the actor they used, though, and I am open to the possibility this was just more muddying of the waters/disinfo.
Vernon Walters: Deputy Director of CIAfrom 1972-1976 (i.e. right when the final 'manned Moon landings' occurred)
He was fluent in French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese as well as his native English
Died a couple days after giving an interview, the interview was then included in a 'mockumentary', Dark Side of the Moon.
Vernon Walters:
On February 9, the day before his death [New York Herald Tribune, February 15, 2002] he gave an interview (in French language) to William Karel.
Wow... Coincidence... He even says in the interview "This could cost people their life"
Yep. His life!
I will check that out. Thanks for the info. Cheers! I have an open mind. I just like to verify info well. :)
http://www.snopes.com/false-stanley-kubrick-faked-moon-landings/
among the points snopes makes is the may date of the original interview is two months after kubrick's death, the interviewer gives acting instructions to the interviewee about 14 minutes in and the alleged kubrick doesn't match the actual kubrick accepting an award about a year earlier.
you decide, but i've always thought it, faked moon landing, was used to undercut jfk doubters and more recently 9-11 sceptics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB75BukKDwk
I think it's over-edited crap.
Just cause they faked some pictures doesn't mean they didn't go.
Man that's Kubrick saying he did it. That's like Cheney coming forward saying he did 9/11. If that video of what sure fucking looks/sounds like Kubrick is real then holy fuck. Also he's saying they didn't go in 1969, not that they didn't go ever.
There was a faked moon landing, because at the time they felt that releasing any kind of footage that could benefit the Soviets was not an option.
That was the conclusion I got after watching Kubrick's Odyssey.
Kubrick's Odyssey: Secrets Hidden in the Films of Stanley Kubrick; Part One: Kubrick and Apollo"There was a faked moon landing, because at the time they felt that releasing any kind of footage that could benefit the Soviets was not an option."
So, those three guys who died on the ground was fake too?
How about the emergency return of Apollo 13? Was that also fake?
Then there's the subsequent missions, including rover footage, and of course the fake moon rocks with substantially different isotopic signatures. Probably used a nuclear reactor to fake those, am I right?
I'm more inclined to believe they kept what they they found on the moon a secret, just like in the film 2001, but hey... whatever works.
What about China's plan to land a man on the moon? Who's going to fake that for them?
Instead of trying to tear me down, why don't you go watch the film?
Draw your own conclusions. I wasn't there.
These Stanley Kubrick interview videos are very disturbing. He admits faking the moon landings.
It's one thing to discuss the possibility of faked moon landings, quite another to watch him calmly discussing it.
I wonder how long it will be up on youtube. Download it if you can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABxAN8cfiOI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9imVp8tlecY
"I wonder how long it will be up on youtube."
Forever.
OH YES !! We went to the Moon and set up 6 fake landing sites with all of the concomitant gear laying around on the surface to make people believe we NEVER WENT THERE !! Full Retard surpassed at light speed. ( sorry, I know you guys are just playing on a cultural joke)
Also, don't you guys have elderly parents or relatives who are occasionally "out of touch with reality?" Maybe not.
Gear on the Moon is not proof of landing MEN on the Moon.
The Soviets also have 'gear' on the Moon, and no one is saying they landed MEN on the Moon.
In that case I wonder who made those thousands of fake footprints encircling all that gear? Some say that we sent the REAL C3PO from Star Wars. I have the deepest of faith that they are right. (very few are aware that Star Wars was a documentary-disguised as a fable)
Is there any independant proof that these exit? Not from fake NASA?
Why doesn't NASA do a fly-by? They've sent space craft by the Moon since. Here, I can go to GoogleEarth and see the leaves growing outside my house. The Moon has no atmosphere to defract light. The Moon's a lot smaller. Where are these hi-rez or any-rez pictures of the "landing sites" after the fact?
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/
Click here for pictures of the moon (apollo) landing sites
Most pictures taken by Japanese moon probe - third party verification.
I will admit, though, that some of the pictures look like the LEM is still attached. The shadows are quite a bit taller/longer than they should be. Could be the topography, could be time of day...
Enlighten me please, how do you know there's gear and footprints?
Bring the Gold
If the US faked the moon landings, wouldn't it have been in the USSR's interest to expose the fraud?
Why would we have needed to fake the moon landings? In other words, exactly what aspect of manned space flight was NASA unable to overcome?
(To save time, if you're going to say the Van Allen Belts, then consider that it took 73 hours to traverse the 235,000 miles to the moon, meaning that the average speed was about 3,200 MPH. The VAB are about 3,000 miles thick, so the astronauts probably spent a maximum of two hours in the VAB. And unless the dose was enough to immediately kill them, I'd bet that NASA would have sacrificed them even if it knew they would all get cancer in a few years.)
With a telescope it was easy to spot the S-IVB in orbit, so they couldn't have just stayed in low earth orbitfor a week to avoid the VAB, without anyone learning about it.
TIA
Probably radiation (even when you are outside the VAB, you are still subject to solar radiation) plus getting a payload that size to the Moon and back (not just into orbit) plus re-entry.
If you go to the moon at 3200 mph, that means you come back to Earth at 3200 mph. Thats coming in hot.
"we present to you, the first man who walked on the Moon!"
*Opens capsule*: "Uuuh, we present to you a charcoal crisp body of the man who first walked on the Moon!"
At the time the trajectory taken to the Moon was secret, giving NASA a lot of time to fabricate one (what is currently available to the public). Same with re-entry. They now claim they 'skipped' off the atmosphere... I have yet to see the science for how one bounces off the atmosphere with a heat shield (no thrusters).
My guess is the Soviets were bribed, and also, they were unable to conclusively prove that NASA did not land MEN on the Moon. Allegations, accusations, don't get you far, esp. not in the midst of a propaganda war.
As the line in "Training Day" goes:
"It's not what you know it's what you can prove."
The Soviets were in on it. The cold war was fake.The soviets received a lot of their rocket technology from the US.
If the Moon landings were fake, which I think they were, there is something strange about why the USSR then, and Russia now, did not/ does not expose the major Achillies heel problem in the Western narrative.
Question: Does anyone in touch with President V.V.P read these pages?
Because the Soviets faked the first man in space, Yuri Gagarin. The U.S. knew that and kept it quiet, having the Soviets return the favor a decade later.
TY for sharing. True or not? I am certainly curious. His wife is on record as saying this is true. Hard to know.
http://shatteringthematrix.com/profiles/blog/show?id=2127676%3ABlogPost%...
And his daughter, the scientologist, is interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSnHhZ-zO3A
It's a fake. Kubric was coaching one of the actors doing 2001 A Space Odyssey during that video clip. Some tard added lunar conspiracy nuttery to it.
US would very likely be happy if Russia took one or two of those in a turkey hunt. It would mean another order for Boeing. Good for profit.
Hope Russia backs up there talk with action, alls I been hearing is a bunch of shit talking... Besides I like the concentration of enemy forces all in the middle to be crushed all at once, attitude!
You are talking the CIA and ISIS right??
Just read all the posting about how Putin's Gonna Do It Now.
... posted that Putin said he is gonna shoot down AEW&C as soon as it take off. Funny, cannot find that reported anywhere.
The US, a few days ago, flew jets into Syria and bombed a Syrian military base. No actions taken by Putin. And we were told Putin had a no-fly zone in effect using his S400. Guess not.
Turkey shot down Putin's jet in Syria and now had placed troops in Syria and taken positions. No actions by Putin.
CIA/Massad took down Putin's airliner. No actions by Putin.
Turkey is taking over a key portion of Iraq and now states their troops will not leave but will establish a base. No actions by Putin.
The US is building a airbase in NE Syria. No actions by Putin.
Previously were Putin's orders NOT to take action when Russia's forces were attacked?
Putin is upping the talk, bluster and displays because he is getting pushed out. But he wants to keep HIS infrastructure and forces in Syria. In other words Putin wants to keep his naval and air base on the west coast. He hopes to make enough noise that they will let him keep at least that. They will not. Putin is paying for being a coward and not establishing a no-fly zone at the same time he started bombing. By no being bold the day has been lost for him. NATO may be preparing to put boots on the ground in Iraq and Syria and once they do it is theirs. Putin will make statements about how it is not right or fair of NATO but they know his fear and he will not act.
HEZBOLLAH!! Look back at how Russia/Putin has hung out and set up their allies in the ME. Including Syria. Putin has lured you away from home and will not protect you if NATO starts a campaign against you on behalf of Israel.
Putin, do another tough guy photo opp riding a horse with no shirt. That will scare them.
"... posted that Putin said he is gonna shoot down AEW&C as soon as it take off. Funny, cannot find that reported anywhere."
That's not what I meant and you know it. If not, please re-read. Did you see any quotation marks?
From ... post - "According to Putin's latest, they will be blown out of the sky should they even take off."
I assumed you meant According to Putin's latest releases/statements/announcements. Or "According to Putin".
That's your problem. You assume a lot and provide very little to back it up.
according to = in accord with, not 'he said'
It was tongue in cheek. I speculate sometimes, but I don't spread rumours.
If I had meant to quote Putin, I would have done so according to 'les regles de l'art', as I always do. You can check that here.
Time you were outed from that closet of yours.
That unwholesome Putin fixation of yours seems to be repressed homosexuality to me.
I would say you're anal about it, but that would probably turn you on.
At best he's a useful idiot. At best.
"Putin is paying for being a coward and not establishing a no-fly zone at the same time he started bombing".
I regret that you will be turned into a small pile of radioactive ash is much faster than you have time to realize that you were wrong about Putin. LOL
Don't worry about any of this. John Kerry is traveling to Moscow next week to meet with Vlad. He will make everything all better!
I gave you a green one even though I do not agree with everything you say and know that you have a heavy anti-Russia or maybe just anti-Putin bias.
However, the fact that Putin's red lines get crossed without a forceful reaction cannot be denied.
One such is West Ukraine. He said he would not let native Russian population be attacked and yet all his support has been minimal and covert.
Also the fact remains that it was Putin who
advised Yunakovych to refrain from using force during the coup in Kiev.
Ironically, the Ukrainians hate him and think
that all the destruction in East Ukraine is caused by Russia and not Ukrainian forces.
Putin has made many mistakes and plays it way too safe.
When his plane was shot down by Turkey he should
have declared a no fly zone over Syria for all non Syrian and Russian planes.
Frankly I think he should have used cruise missiles to take out the Turkish air base from which the planes that shot down his jet came from.
NATO would have bitched and moaned and Western
press would have vilified him but they would stop the aggressive behavior because they would realize that
now they will have real unpleasant consequences.
Not anti the russain people but there is a distrubing problem with their govt and Putin. Has been for many years.
All you have to do is look Russia's actions since Iraq1/Serbia with an unbiased eye and a pattern/method of conduct becomes evident. What I do (for the most part) is call attention to that.
Putin and the Russian govt/elite are either party to the NWO/Zionist/TPTB/Western Elite (take your best pick) plans - or they are watching it happen and trying to pick up what they can from the carnage for themselves (be it short term profits, elimination of competition etc) - or they are simply idiots (my opinion) who think NATO will expend itself and self destruct in the process of destroying and butchering the one time allies of Russia.
Remember, Russia/Putin did not just watch as those countries were butchered but voted for or consented to sanctions and military actions against those countries. And Russia always assist by getting things such as chemical weapons out of those countries before NATO or their proxy ramps up the slaughter.
In the more recent cases - Putin twice SAVED the WUke forces by forcing a cease fire that included the safe withdraw of the WUke's when they were surrounded. Putin still has not delivered the S300 or better to Syria (or Iran), Putin waited until Syria was expended financially and fighting men wise, and largely destroyed, before making a move in Syria. (There is a reason for that, for letting Syria become frail and weak first and the countries social and physical infrastructure destroyed.)
Putin may very well have plans for the next internal destruction of Russia and for his current band of elites to grab even greater power and profit. Last time the people suffered but a certain group got very rich at the same time.
If Putin/Russia's Elite actually had plans to take down the dollar, to save Russia, to ever take a stand -- Then why would they have not done so before Iraq2? Just think how much better the situation and pressure on the dollar if Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran were all together, outside the dollar and had S400 systems at the ready. But that is not what Putin/Russian elite wanted.
First time I,ve up voted you Blankone but have to admit what you say is true, dammit ! Why are the Russians not defending the Syrian army , taking shit from Turkey and letting US build a base INSIDE the sovereign territory of Syria. Either pretending to be weak or they really are ?
US STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESPERSON LOSES COMPOSURE UNDER HEAVY QUESTIONING BY RUSSIA TODAY REPORT
http://m.liveleak.com/view?i=e9c_1449847285
First target should be the fudgepacker.
No waffling , juist orders . quite different than what we have done for a very long while even if it was all for the wrong reasons to begin with. I would pay to watch Putin and BHO in an MMA match !
At least now we can see what real rules of engagement look like.
Are we at DefCon 2 yet?
Defcon 0.5.
(depends what shift is on)
Hmm and right as junk bonds are collapsing, coincidence?
It's almost as if the major powers know the system is collapsing and are trying to distract us...
yes it cetainly is.
He may inadvertently play into the rather obvious US' plan:
A) provoke an "unprovoked attack" by Russia
B) First strike nuke exchange that McCain is certain will work dammit whargarrrbllll
C) Millions/billions killed are Putin's fault, US defended itself
Putin's actions show that he won't be goaded to rash actions. But, he won't just sit back and take abuse directed at vital Russian interests. He is giving the neocon's allies a good look at what they are supporting. Is that worth WW3 ?
+1 there are no profits to be made out of WW3. by now, it's a Neo-Keynesian Fantasy.
Like Dr. Krugman's Invasion From Mars Smashing All Windows and Window Factories, Too
ramping up regional and proxy wars... now there are lots of profits to be made... for MICs that aren't already overproducing, though
there are no profits to be made out of WW3
No, but there's plenty of distraction to be made out of it. The whole system seems perched to go tets up, gotsta have a distraction.
Unfortunately, the oligarchs will not accept a lower standard of living, nor will they willingly give up power and control over real resources (which is what this has always been about).
War is inevitable as human technology does indeed advance. Human nature, not so much...
Once the herd is sufficiently culled, you might see a real market emerge for a while...
same as it ever was...
BULLSHIT.
Modern War is almost always profitable: to the MIC and the Banksters.
I don't believe it. But I'm afraid the Banksters/MIC still do - which kinda scares the shit out of me a bit. . .
Congress will just add another x10 of debt to our kids FedRes credit card at 6% interest. Every year I wait for a newly reborn political party with a few simple planks to address this root problem. Every year I am shocked at how airtight and resistant to reform the D.C. fortress remains. It doesn't help that most citizens have become comfortably numb to the K Street marketplace buying up our economic and civil freedoms behind the gates.
It is only profitable if those who you are
fighting cannot destroy factories and homes and kill you and your families.
I agree WWIII is just another scare tactic at this juncture. Just like the Boston kids were professsionals and 2 people at Berdoo were a massive attack ? At Boston we had almost a two year advance warnng of 2 kids who were not even close to being actually capable. And Berdoo was 2 people at a gun free zone, like a shooting gallery at a carnival ? Neither were exactly well planned por professional yet touted as such to scare the piss out of the public. Now any larger or real attack within CONTUS and the public will demand martial law because they are afraid of their own shadow ! Another giant manipuation and illusion created to control YOU for the coming RESET !
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Good point.
He is giving the neocon's allies a good look at what they are supporting.
This appears to be a large part of the strategy. Discredit NATO and isolate Turkey by showing Erdogan's terrorism profiteering. Discredit the US by shaming them into actually targeting their CIA love-child ISIS.
Thanks, at least the Putin fan club admits a large part of Putins powerful strategy is to "shame" his enemy.
That's some master chess playing.
No back to telling us how Putins inability to act while making a lot of noise is chess playing.
You keep acting like Putin should aggressively fight NATO. He is trying to avoid that while drawing a line in the sand. He is operating with a vastly inferior force and holding his own. THAT is why he is playing chess vs checkers. He has to rely on the arrogance of the vastly more powerful NATO and avoid a direct confrontation as long as possible. Putin is smart unlike certain paid trolls / useful idiots.
and he realizes his superior moral position, especially in the eyes of much of the political class of the west.
at a table at the american legion last week, i asked what national leader, including obama, each most admired. i got four putins and one netanyahu.
the american legion.
@Blankone
Apart from being completely ignorant about geopolitics, you are just proving that you know absolutely nothing about chess either.
Maybe you should stick to blackjack
Fun chess fact. The song "Out Ta Get Me" by Guns n' Roses is about Bobby Fischer.
Blankone was outed as a disinfo troll pretty thoroughly a coule/few weeks ago but its obvious from his sheer repetition of claims about the s300 not having been delivered to syria - a quick google search will assure you of that. There were also un sanctions on iran that russia was complying with.
He never accounts for political or diplomatic reality and seems to think Russian forces can and should risk war with nato over places like libya.
This isnt to say criticism as such isnt valid, but blankone offers the juvenile, non-practical analysis of a low level State Department troll anxious to find a back door to suggest to you that, despite all the evidence to the contrary, Putin and Obama and Netanyahu and the eeevil bankers are really playing out an elaborate plot to trick you. Why theyd bother with the global media, financial, military, and surveillance power at their combined disposal is left unexplained.
Again, skepticism good. Unorthodox analysis worth considering.
But blankone repeats outright lies over and over hoping no one will bother fact checking him.
As the saying goes, youre entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.
So why does he keep repeating false claims about s300 delivery to assad?
Why discount sanctions on iran russia complied with while trying to keep pressure on the us to rely on un and iaea inspections? Why spin efforts to have syria give up weapons that were virtually useless anyway over to remove the red line pretext for war Obama's masters craved?
Why pretend a doctor is wholly incompetent because he hasnt found the cure for the anglo-zionist cancer? Why post ad nauseam almost only on the topic of putin?
I have my guess.
Definitely not worth WWIII to you and me and all the other ordinary people in the world, but we have no control over those decisions.
The people making the decisions cannot allow peace, that is why everything since 9/11.
That is the problem we need to solve.
At the moment, people allow themselves to hate based on what they see on TV, giving the politicians power.
Now do you understand the intelligence of the Germans welcoming Syrian refugees?
I am far from a leftist lover, but wisdom from many cultures says that hating and other base emotions screw up your life. Add modern psychology and the propaganda it enables, we are very controlled in our opinions.
This net is our way out. They are going to lose unless they shut down the internet. Understand frances' version of our Patriot Act : National emergency, constitution changed to allow that indefinitely, more police power, etc.
I watched videos on Stormcloudgathering this AM, he has some good stuff, I thought. NWO == Israeli-Neocon, at least close enough for gov work.
Except when they shut down the net, we know it's on, and time to rock and Roll.
they need a real real big excuse to do that one.. and nobody will buy it.
Without a US constitutional amendment to the Postal Clause which would include protection of privatized and secure electronic communications, internet and cell service can be selectively denied or used as a weapon of misinformation for hyped National Security reasons. There are plenty of pilot test examples, ex. the SF BART protest cell outages [http://news.yahoo.com/sf-area-transit-policy-allows-cellphone-outage-195...] and the Facebook "emotional response" experiments [http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/30/technology/facebook-tinkers-with-users...].
But, because comms are so easily collected and threat analyzed with unlimited black-budgets, allowing citizen communications has more intelligence value, any credible reformation leadership can be targeted or their plans disrupted. When the only tools govt has are 3-letter agency hammers, everything starts looking like a coffin nail.
Enjoy your electronics as long as you can;
"The training is designed to familiarize pilots with a variety of electronic attack weapons carried on each Growler jet, such as lasers, high-powered microwave or EMP or anti-radiation energy in concentrated, directed beams. To view a History Channel video on directed energy weapons, click here. According to a Navy spokesman, “The pilot has to achieve an ID of the emitter, locate it and simulate a ‘harm shoot.’”
Currently the Navy is being a really bad neighbor to people in the Northwest with the EA-18 Growler buzzing residents up along the Oregon Coast to excess decibel battering the Olympic Peninsula to Okanogan. Northrup/Grumman is going to deliver 135 new jets over the next two years. Talk about a farce to "Climate Change" agenda. Posse Comitatus was thrown out with the Constitution since 9/11.(Ruby Ridge & Waco)
Their EMP weapon takes out cars, cellphones, etc. More info & links here:
http://westcoastactionalliance.org/overview/whats-happening
Got buzzed the other day & my neighbor came over to see if we went to war.
NWO has their peddle to the metal!!!
'One demonstration of the fact that this task was successfully achieved are the myths that are still alive among some Western analysts and pro-American Russian “opposition”. For example, if Russia opposes another instance of Western adventurism, it is “bluffing to save face”, the Russian elites are totally dependent on the West because “their money is there”, “Russia sells out its allies”.
However, the myths of “rusty rockets that do not fly”, “hungry solders building dachas for generals”, and about “economy in tatters” are essentially gone. Only marginals believe in them, who are not really incapable, but are too afraid to acknowledge the reality.
These very illusions of weakness and readiness to back off that fooled the West into belief that the Russian question is solved and prevented it from rapid political and economic attacks on Moscow, gave the Russian leadership the precious time for reforms.
Naturally, there is never too much time, and Russia would have preferred to postpone the direct confrontation with the US, which started in 2012-13, by another 3-5 years, or even avoid it altogether, but the diplomacy won 12-15 years for the country – a huge period of time in today’s rapidly changing world.
Russian diplomacy
To save space, I will give just one very clear example, most relevant in the current political situation.
People still blame Russia for not counteracting the US in Ukraine actively enough, for failing to create a pro-Russian “fifth column” to counterbalance the pro-American one, for working with elites, rather than with the people, etc. Let us evaluate the situation based on real capabilities, rather than wishful thinking.' ... ... http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2015/12/55666/
The Neo Cons would be ecstatic for a nice big fat war that uses the Middle East for its playing fields, and keeps the messiness out of our home countries... and yes, when the Russians finally retaliate militarily to adequate degree, the Western MSM will be in lockstep proclaiming that they have gone beyond the pale... and the US and Allies have NO CHOICE but to respond by declaring War.
A good juicy war would certainly help Halleyburtons stawk price.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/apnewsbreak-dealer-gun-linked-paris-attack-ca...
Eric "Fast & Furious" Holder ... is that you?
Indeed.
http://leaksource.info/2015/01/17/the-yinon-plan-greater-israel-syria-ir...
You do not need to live in captivity of your illusions and repeat the follies of others.
The US has no any real opportunity to defend himself against a massive nuclear strike from Russia.
In the event of a nuclear war against Russia, the United States will be destroyed with tenfold guarantee.
You just have no clue about what you're trying to talk.
uh, will Putin just make our Ohio class disappear becuase if not: Trident in the ass is gonna hurt
That is why the strategy is called MAD.
I'm just glad Obama is committed to OPEC and ISIS and not afraid to give the green light on domestic false flags. I'm glad after every mass shooting hoax Obama has the courage to take a shit all over the Bill of Rights, whether he's trying to void and restrict the 1st, 2nd or 4th amendments. The bravery with which he reads his teleprompter is truly Awe inspiring. I trust Obama with the life of me and my family. I know that if we are ever threatened by a criminal, be they civilian or governmental with a gun, he will personally be their with his Secret Service to defend us at 3 am during a home invasion or robbery. Thank you Mr. Obama for loving us more than Jesus Christ himself. For Christ saved us from sin and hell, but you saved us from all self evident freedoms given by God and a cockamamey human right of self defense. Jesus may have whipped the money changers out of the temple for robbing the poor, simultaneously signing his own death warrant for going against the bankers of his day, but, Obama, you have done something much more noble. You have golfed more than any other President ever and at the same time allowed the banks to pillage and rape our country while the IRS makes sure your political enemies are Check mated. Forgive me Lord, Barry could teach you a thing or 2. Lastly I want to commend you, rather late, sure, but sincere none the less, on your hard earned Nobel Peace Prize. I know that by murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent brown skins and Muslims around the world you are spreading peace and compassion. The Nobel Peace committee has never been more clairvoyant than when you received yours Pre-doing anything at all except tell us what we wanted to hear. Thank you Satan and a big Yes We Can back to you.
Great rant, friend.
I would not call that a rant. It was a well thought out abridged tome. Excellently done.
Excellent.
Question for the group : are there places on the net where this comment will not be interpreted as intended?
Poe's law says 'yes'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
If we can identify them, or places where sections will be taken straight, we could spend some time commenting there?
Does that work? I get discouraged trying to fight the hatred of Islam, etc.
agree on all points . it is now all about the coming RESET !
He's doing what he has to do to protect his country's interests, and that's what a leader is supposed to do. And doing a good job of it.
DC is the problem, not Syria.
What it means is that the dude, who has been extremely patient so far, is now saying enough is enough. The neocons may just get their wish soon and have a Russian nuclear missile rammed up their ass.
The problem is the blast won't be confined to the neocons ass. Careful where you stand.
I stand for liberty, freedom and justice, and if these things are without a doubt systematically being taken away from me and my children one step at a time, then I'd rather take my chances with the consequences of a blast.
It's all our turn to say enough is enough.
" It's all our turn to say enough is enough. "
This is happening because not enough of us in the US and the West are saying this. The oligarchs don't pull the triggers and push the nuke buttons - the people do that to themselves. And its in the schools and households where the moronic brainwashing that creates more mindless order followers takes place.
Will Humanity choose complete destruction, total slavery, ... or Freedom ?
Does 'Total slavery' come with a side order of Kardashian?
If it does I might know the answer to your question.
Donbe jiggin wif EBT yo.
Americans repeatedly get tricked into supporting wars. All you need is a major incident for everyone to rally behind.
This is exactly why I have commented many times in the last few years that Americans have grown fat, dumb, lazy, spoiled, apathetic and cowardly? Because it is 100% true ! Most are deathly afraid to look in the mirror and live in abject fear of losing some of their stuff ? Completely controlled by their own materialism and completely unaware they are controlled rather easily by that materialism !
we all live in masive illusions.
It will if it's Hilary's big, fat, brown cave!
Having your guy shredded while parachuting will have that effect on a leader.
Ummmm, hate to break it to ya pal but PROGRESSIVES are in charge. Progressives call the shots. This is a totally PROGRESSIVE owned shit show. Obirdbrain regime has usurped the white hut for many many years now.
Blaming Bush/neocons makes you look progressive stupid.
Grimaldus
Ummm, no. They are all neo-cons now behind the scenes regardless of outward labels. And yes, it did begin in earnest with Cheney, Rumsfeld and their puppet on a string GW Bush. But the whole foreign policy is neo-con as much now as ever.
Neocons are Progressives of the Right.
Basic progressive theory is that wise men should guide the society. Progressives of the Left do it in domestic arena with social programs, the Fed, ... Progressives of the Right do it internationally with war and foreign aid and the CIA.
Neither can possibly work, the world is an open, evolving, complex system not a machine, all they can do is build up problems for future crises, but until everyone gets the pattern, every crisis is an opportunity for more power to our wise men.
The neocons never left. Best example is Victoria "Fuck the EU" Newland, married to PNAC dreamer Kagan.
Actually makes me feel sorry for poor Barry. He sucks neo con cock for seven years, and when things go south, they blame him for what they wrote on the TelePrompTer.
Neo-cons suck funds and support from Conservatives for the benefit of Israel. Neo-libs suck funds and support from Liberals (Democrats etc) for the benefit of Israel.
http://thesaker.is/saker-men-of-the-year-2015-the-russian-airman-in-syri...
Been there. Good site. I'm a "submarine in the desert, too." Never thought of it that way before.
Does that mean to destroy Washington DC?
There fixed it for you
If they do, who actually cares anymore? The US is NOT what it used to be and if the DC area gets nukeraped I could care less anymore. We were a nation of hard working, conservative, moral, and normal people. Now our moral fiber has been hijacked by a bunch of psychopaths and every other person in this country is a freeloader or a leftist crybaby. A nation of fucking imbiciles. /rant
That is why it would be a strategic error for Russia to decapitate D.C. An honorable opposing force would avoid MENA type smash-and-grabs so that those decent citizens have an opportunity to restructure or dismantle overly-centralized power (the psychopath magnet) on their own. This could open a new chapter in humble and realistic self-governance with lessons to be remembered for a lifetime. Everyone should have a dream, right?
Does that mean to destroy Turkey?
If I were the Chief Headchopper in Saudi Arabia I think I would be checking to ensure the tinned goods in the bunker are well within their best before date.
No miliatry group sprouts in the middle of an empty desert unless it is well watered with foreign money. No military group is able to convince its members to undertake suicide missions unless they have available a powerful Wahabi ideology.
Saudi Arabia provides both and has been delivering both to the West since before 9/11.
Bombs Away!!!
Then there is this reason:
"There is evidence the Saudi-led strategy is starting to work,"the IEA said, referring to the producer group's decision to maintain high output to safeguard market share.
Market share will disappear very quickly if the oil terminals of these ISIS-supporters are taken out.
They can be taken out without going nuke.
that and a paycheck.
I hope Angela reads ZH.
All our (U.S.) problems originate in NYC and DC...
Our problems originate wherever wise men tell us what to do and have the power to enforce it.
Problems in open, evolving complex systems have to be dealth with bottom-up, they are top-down. Nature doesn't allow that, note the quite amazing failure rate of sophisticated groups of extremely wise men, e.g. the Fed, all foreign policies, all domestic policies.
Whcha wacha watcha gonna do about it NATO??
Russia will defend Syria, not necessarily destroy Turkey.
They like Montreux treaty too much.
However caught some tweets that russia is training SAA with T90A tanks.
Antonovs can fly 3 of these in per flight, should Bosporus be closed.. 47 ton / 150 ton 3200km.
The strategy seems to be syria will fortify with russias most advanced production MBT.
Forget the individual wasps flying around just point the missiles at the nest aka the kingdom.
Spain 36'?
A historical simulacra, but not,
This is Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and the rest of greater Israel in 2015.
The fucking past is NEVER the same as the present.
At best, this the Zionist (Nazi) Sudetenland argument.
+5.3 for use of the word simulacra
Hmm, learned a new word today. All's not wasted.
Not to be picky ... but shouldn't that be simulacrum?
What?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulacrum
Translation: Kill them all, mutherfuckers and paint the town Red.
Moron Americans: Even the Mosque?
Putin: Especially the Mosque.
(apologies to Mr. Eastwood)
No. Just another centrally-directed wise-man solution, with side-effects that will plague you forever.
No killing unless you are attacked. Work hard not to be attacked.
Russia is now the Dominant Player in the ME.
Anyone else is playing catch-up or being asked to leave.
I think putin is being baited as stated in a previous post. The us has an itchy finger and are just waiting for a chance to get the shit stsrted for real.
Scary times ahead
thanks for changing your icon back to bugs - the other one was good but nothing beats bugs
Nothing says 'Happy Holidays!' like more kinetic action in the middle east.
Eddie, can I refill your eggnog for you? Get you something to eat? Drive you out to the middle of nowhere and leave you for dead?
Naw, I'm doing just fine, Clark.
Shitter's full!
Guess those overpriced 180 grain .40 rounds I got yesterday won't do much good against a meltdown no?