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White House Unable To Explain How Gun Control Will Stop Mass Shootings

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Authored by Steve Watson, originally posted at PrisonPlanet.com,

The White House cannot name one single shooting incident that would have been prevented by gun control legislation.

As President Obama prepares executive action to pass further gun control legislation, one errant reporter asked the White House press secretary exactly how such proposals would have prevented any recent mass shootings.

Josh Earnest couldn’t directly answer the question and floundered around repeating the same talking points over and over again.

Reporter Byron Tau referred to a statement made by Sen. Marco Rubio that no mass shootings in recent memory would have been prevented by gun legislation, which even the Washington Post fact-checked as true.

“If not a single recent mass shooting would have been stopped by the kind of gun control measures you champion, are those the right approach to this problem?” Tau asked.

 

“Well, Byron, I think we’ve been pretty direct and upfront,” replied Earnest, not being very direct and upfront.

 

“…there is no piece of legislation that Congress can pass that would prevent every single act of gun violence,” Earnest added, avoiding the question.

 

“I think the case that we have made is one that rests primarily on our concern about national security and our careful consideration of common sense.” he stated, again avoiding the question entirely.

 

Earnest then diverted the talking point to the terrorist no-fly-list, prompting Tau to follow up, “Were any of the recent mass shooters on the ‘no-fly’ list?”

 

“Not that I’m aware of,” Earnest admitted. “You’ll probably have to ask the director of national intelligence to confirm that.”

 

The reporter stuck to the central issue at hand – that gun control legislation is not a fix for mass shootings.

 

“Can the White House point to a recent mass shooting that would have been stopped by a expanded assault weapons ban or stricter background checks?” Tau asked.

 

“The evidence seems to be that in all these recent mass shootings, these folks either passed background checks or were very determined to circumvent the strict gun laws that are already on the books.” the reporter added.

Indeed, The shooters at Virginia Tech, the Aurora Colorado movie theater, Fort Hood, Isla Vista, the Washington Navy Yard, the attempted mass killing at Arapahoe High School ALL passed background checks.

The shooter at Washington Navy Yard even managed to buy his firearm after the background check system was supposedly strengthened following the incident at Virgina Tech.

The BATF has also determined that Syed Rizwan Farook, one of the two shooters in San Bernardino, also legally purchased two of the weapons at a gun shop in Corona.

The reporter pressed Earnest, asking “Can you point to any that would have been prevented or stopped by the kind of proposals the White House is championing?”

Earnest again repeated the “common sense” talking point without addressing the actual question and threw in a smattering of empty “national security” rhetoric.

Last week when addressing the same line of questioning, Earnest admitted that further gun control legislation would not have prevented the San Bernardino shooting, and that it is purely “hypothetical” that terrorist incidents could be prevented with such new laws.

While the Obama administration is seemingly hell bent on going after stricter gun control, research from Pew Research Center, the FBI, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, reveals that gun violence in the US is actually on the decline, and is at its lowest since the 1960s.

In addition, gun crime, despite an exponential increase in privately owned firearms over the same period, has steadily declined for about 20 years, except for high-profile shootings in gun-free zones.

 

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Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:06 | 6913041 JustObserving
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White House also unable to explain how droning women and children and wedding parties deters terrorism

America's deadly double tap drone attacks are 'killing 49 people for every known terrorist in Pakistan'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2208307/Americas-deadly-double-t...

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:13 | 6913063 Latina Lover
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The explanation is obvious. Anything that  profits and protects the tiny group of banksters that control our economy is good. Anything that threatens their profits or person is bad. 

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:19 | 6913083 Ignatius
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Actor Kurt Russell weighs in, calls banning guns "insane":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMbAU5C5Ra8

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:23 | 6913095 ThroxxOfVron
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I'll take Kurt Russel over Bernie or Hillary any day all day.

Pliskin 2016

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:36 | 6913145 BlindMonkey
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Plissken is how it is spelled but no need for that.

Just call him Snake.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:42 | 6913160 LetThemEatRand
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Snake for President.

Pretty much covers all of them.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:06 | 6913193 Slomotrainwreck
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I am flumoxed by the Presidebnt's stand on controlling lawful personal gun posession on his whim. The WH has stated clearly that the premise for regulation is that "propensity is unlawful". There is no such precident which allows for pre-retribution. It is not illegal to "be able to do something wrong"! It's like saying "Guilty by supposition". Rights can not be legislated, regulated or otherwise mangled unless of course God says so.

 

 

So far, no word on that...

Soon to come, "Gun free zones" everywhere within a 10 foot radius of any person?

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:41 | 6913326 LowerSlowerDela...
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Many, MANY, women are well equipped to be prostitutes (Hillary excepted).  Let the onslaught of  arrests, bans, and "common sense" prostitute (hot women) control laws begin!

Yours truly, Dear Leader. 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 01:55 | 6913611 wee-weed up
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"one errant reporter dared to ask..."

No doubt it will be off to the Gulag for him!

Maybe then he will learn not to point out the Emperor has no clothes!

Impudent little bastard!

He must think this President is actually answerable to The People...

Ha! What a fool!

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 06:15 | 6913816 VinceFostersGhost
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I'll take Kurt Russel

 

America and Kurt Russel......F_CK YEAH!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R5A0pg4oN8

 

Still don't think we invented sushi.....but whatever.

 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 07:22 | 6913946 NidStyles
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I'm seriously starting to wonder what these fuckers mean by common sense....

 

 

I've talked to a lot people in my area, and they disagree with everything that has been proposed by these guys, so how is it common sense? Do they have a different definition than the layman's? 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 08:14 | 6913980 Bilderberg Member
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His term is winding down, he's up against the clock...WATCH OUT FOR FALSE FLAGS! MOST LIKELY IN "DEMOCRAT" STATES.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 09:25 | 6914063 RonArgent
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Dear Lord, hear my prayer

 

I pray that racist muslim homosexual negroid America hating Obama gets shot in his head. Shot by protesting illegal aliens firing Fast And Furious weapons. For the sake of America's children.

 

 

Amen

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 10:43 | 6914192 Stuck on Zero
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Reporter Byron Tau is doing his job by asking the question. More power to him. Screw the other statist propagandizers in the room.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 08:22 | 6913987 HardAssets
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Ah . . . your mistake is trying to be 'fair' and make sense out of this.

They could care less about what you consider fair & sensible.

They want a monopoly on force . . for when the wheels completely come off of this criminal Ponzi scam. Can't have an angry & armed populace hunting down the criminals, can they ?

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 19:32 | 6915747 NidStyles
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True force comes from the ability to move masses without intimidation, coercion or actual physical violence. Leadership is about understanding force. A true leader never needs to reveal his hand by using those primitive examples of force. He can simply lead his people in the direction desired through rational discourse. 

 

 

Weak leaders are who need those primitive methods. 

 

 

Basically what I am saying is that there are far better leaders out there than these crowds, and it's about time we start pushing them into those positions to clean up this pile of invasion. 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 08:50 | 6914016 Arnold
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Royal Edict.

It has historical precedent, just not here.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 12:51 | 6914565 Dapper Dan
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A couple goes on vacation to a fishing resort in Northern Minnesota.The husband likes to fish at the crack of dawn, the wife likes to read. One morning the husband returns after several hours of fishing and decides to take a nap.

 

Although not familiar with the lake, the wife decides to take the boat out and get some sun. She motors out a short distance, anchors, and continues to read her book. Along comes a game warden in his boat.

 

He pulls up alongside the woman and says, "Good morning ma'am. What are you doing?"

 

"Reading a book," she replies. (thinking, isn't it obvious.)

 

"You're in a restricted fishing area," he informs her.

 

"I'm sorry officer, but I'm not fishing, I'm reading"

 

"Yes but you have all the equipment. For all I know you could start at any moment. I'll have to take you in and write you up."

 

"If you do that, I'll have to charge you with sexual assault," says the woman.

 

"But I haven't even touched you," says the game warden.

 

"That's true, but you have all the equipment. For all I know you can start at any moment."

 

"Have a nice day ma'am, " and he left..........

 

MORAL: Never argue with a woman who reads, its likely she can also think.

 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 03:09 | 6913744 A Nanny Moose
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the law of irony dictates that I point out....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgHZubM7M-I

"President of what?"

....in-fucking-deed.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:55 | 6913364 Crash Overide
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I will take Jack Burton over Snake any day...

Sorry but Jack had to deal with Lo Pan's Chinese black magic, the hell of the undead souls, and three guys from Mortal Combat and top of having his truck stolen.

If I recall, he had a gun most of the time.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:46 | 6913506 Slave2Fashion
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But mostly, great reflexes!

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 06:44 | 6913898 Nobody For President
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And a knive!!

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 02:24 | 6913538 ThroxxOfVron
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NO Republicans /NO Democrats 2016

 

 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 06:45 | 6913899 Nobody For President
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I keep sayin'...

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:35 | 6913475 FireBrander
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November 13, 2015

Andrea Mitchell – NBC Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent and wife of Alan Greenspan

Dateline NBC appearance, discussing the weapons used in Paris attack.

Paraphrasing:

“The only people with guns in France are the “Criminal Element”; due to guns laws”.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:43 | 6913493 FireBrander
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FINALLY! A reporter asked a GREAT question!

Now, how about this one?

Of the 100,000 Syrians President Obama wants to bring into this country, can he promise that the "Vetting process" will be 100% accurate and that ZERO Terrorists or Terrorist sypathizers will be allowed into the USA?

If not, what percentage of 100,000 will be a Terrorist or Terrorist Sypathizer? And, is the President "Ok" with more San Bernardino's committed by these "improperly vetted" Syrian refugees?

~~~~~~~~~~~

Federal "Vetting" of 100,000 Syrians to remove "terrorists"...

Let's do the math:

5.0% slip through = 5000 more San Bernardino's

0.01 slip through = 1000 more San Bernardino's

0.001 slip through = 100 more San Bernardino's

0.0001 slip through = 10 more San Bernardino's

0.00001 slip through = 1 more San Bernardino

 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 03:25 | 6913754 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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0.01% of 100,000 = 10 not 1000

unless 0.01 = 1%

either way, the way you've listed your terms is confusing (on purpose?)

 

Anyway, I agree, it was a great question. Ballsy. He'll never be invited back.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:13 | 6913238 thinkmoretalkless
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Capt. Ron I salute you.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:25 | 6913103 TeamDepends
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"Gun control will stop mass shootings because once we confiscate the guns from Tea Partiers, Christians, Constitution worshippers, and Planned Parenthood Commandos we will take them to the camps and eliminate them. Possibly with their own guns. Then there uh, there won't be any more mass shootings."

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:44 | 6913172 dchang0
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Yeah, because soon after that, the gov't will switch to OVENS for their mass killing of political enemies. It's happened before in the history of man, it will happen again...

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:08 | 6913412 hannah
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ovens...for christ sake ....show one photo of an oven used to kill people.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 10:46 | 6914198 BlindMonkey
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I have a banned assault toaster.  Does that count?  (Wait, no I don't. That toaster was lost in a boating accident.)

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 12:07 | 6914449 GeezerGeek
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It's a small step from a pressure cooker to an oven.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:11 | 6913420 nmewn
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"...diverted the talking point to the terrorist no-fly-list, prompting Tau to follow up, “Were any of the recent mass shooters on the ‘no-fly’ list?”

 

“Not that I’m aware of,” Earnest admitted. “You’ll probably have to ask the director of national intelligence to confirm that.”

Well, what we have here is a classic case of Josh being something less than Earnest.

A WH spokesman (THE SENIOR white house spokesman I might add) sent before a mediocre press corpse (lol) at best, to promote how Obama's MAIN PROPOSAL TO STOP MASS SHOOTINGS can be solved by not allowing (citizens?) to purchase guns refers the question to...fucking wait for it...lol...

...the Director of National Intelligence...who is, by the way one James Clapper...who has been caught red-handed lying on numerous occasions (Snowden only being one) and who is, of course, not there to answer the question.

While I respect the "earnest effort" of Mr.Tau of not breaking some weird decorum rules resulting from some supposed "respect for office holders" but I would not be getting bogged down in the details of schedules & appointments of a one James Clapper, I would have said..."Are you fucking serious!? You want me to hunt down James Clapper's secretary in order to get an appointment with him on something you should already know? YOU CALLED THIS PRESS CONFERENCE!"

Apparently thats why I'm not a reporter, yet ;-)

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 01:49 | 6913627 Meat Hammer
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This reminds me of the good ol' days when reporters asked tough questions and if they didn't get an answer they kept asking the SAME QUESTIONS.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 13:21 | 6914666 chunga
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Check this one out Meat...

RT Grills US State Dept over claims Russia airstrike hit a hospital in Syria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEhv6J0gFHo

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 01:52 | 6913631 Georgiabelle
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I wish someone would ask Josh Earnest exactly how gun control/confiscation would work in a country with wide open borders.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 02:06 | 6913659 OldPhart
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Follow up question should have been what legal process is used to place a person on the no fly list?  Is the accused allowed representation, the right to confront his accuser and a presumption of innocence until proven guilty?

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 14:13 | 6914841 Government need...
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hell no.  that's the point.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 13:07 | 6914620 STP
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The No Fly List?  They can put any fucking body they want on the "No Fly List".  Ammon Bundy, the son of Cliven Bundy (Remember the Bundy Ranch) is on the "No Fly LIst" and was treated as a Terrorist while attempting to get on a plane with his 12 year old daughter.  This was November 2014.  I've met him and the family, when I went out there and you'd be hard pressed to find a more rock solid, God Fearing American kind of people, then those folks.  I don't believe he's ever been charged or arrested for anything whatsoever.  Yet they can put you on there, no trial, no court, no nothing.

 

http://www.infowars.com/bundy-family-treated-as-terror-suspects-by-tsa/

"This morning my twelve year old daughter and I tried to fly to Salt Lake City from Phoenix for a special event of a loved one. We had to be there by 1:00 pm in order to be a part of the occasion. Everything was going as planned until we came to the Gate B check station and the first TSA agent looked at our boarding passes. He seemed a bit alarmed and asked me if my name was Ammon, I told him yes, he then circled my name and sent me down the line. I could tell there was suspicion but thought it may be because my daughter was a minor, or because my name is unusual and sometimes taken as Arabic.

When we reached the actual check station the second TSA agent saw my boarding pass and immediately called for a Commanding Officer on the radio. Over the course of several minutes he called multiple times for assistance, meanwhile the line behind me was stopped and backing up. When the Commanding Officer finally came the two agents conversed privately as they looked at my boarding pass and drivers license. The Commanding Officer then directed me to an area and confiscated all of our possessions along with the normal clothing checked such as my boots, belt jacket and so on.

By this time, we were feeling a bit scrutinized and those around us were staring and talking among themselves of the matter. They then escorted us to a back area were they rummaged through our items, testing it with devices and inspecting each article. The agent then began to check me physically and boy was that uncomfortable, no cavity check was completed but everything else was.

I asked the agent why we were being treated so differently and why we were selected out. He told me it was because my boarding pass was tagged with the bold letters “SSSS”. He also told me that this will happen every time you fly because you are marked. Beyond that he did not disclose of anything else. My daughter then asked him if she could put her shoes back on. The agent said that she could, but that I was not to touch my possessions. He then called for his Commanding Officer.

After a few minutes, the Level Three Officer showed up and asked me several question and wrote the answers down on a yellow sticky note. This Commanding Officer then went to a computer and began typing and reading. The whole thing was very interesting to me. I thought to myself, “WOW, Harry Reid really does have me tagged in the federal database as a Domestic Terrorist”. I have never been charged and prosecuted with anything in my life, and yet Senator Reid, without due process, has declared me, for life, as a Domestic Terrorist. He unilaterally named me, Ammon Bundy, a terrorist against the people of this country, the people I love and would so willingly to give my life for.

After the Commanding Officer typed a few things in the computer, my boarding pass was written on and hole punched 5 times with stars mostly over the SSSS (see picture). Our possessions were then returned and we were free to go to the boarding gate. When we left the security area many people were looking at us in curiosity. The entire process took about an hour, and my daughter and I did not make our flight. We knew we would not make it to the event even if we got on another flight so we left the boarding gate area and went to ask for a refund from US Airlines.

U.S. Airlines resisted to give us a refund at first, they insisted that they could not be held accountable for what the government chose to do. I showed them the boarding pass and the SSSS, then told them why I believed I was marked and harassed. They immediately began to process the refund request, one lady said “that sends chills up my spine that they would do that to you”. I thanked them and we left the airport.

This incident reaffirmed to me the danger that the American people are in. When a very small group of elitists use the peoples power without authority, and are willing to destroy the lives of those who disagree or stand up to them, when this type of unlimited power is commonly exercised without checks and balances the people are in danger."

 

 

 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 14:06 | 6914815 Government need...
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This.  A list of people who add people to that 'no fly' list needs to be made public.  Bring you tar and feathers.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:08 | 6913222 sonoftx
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Shout out loud for Kurt Russell!!!

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 09:20 | 6914055 Stares straight...
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Thank God that actors and Hollywood elites have gotten involved in social and political issues. Logic and sanity will now prevail and we will be saved from ourselves.

(Do I really need the sarc tag?)

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 10:47 | 6914204 BlindMonkey
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Only if you were including Sharon Stone in your group.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 12:47 | 6914552 STP
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That video rocked.  The interviewer was quoting the NY Times, that bastion of Conservative Thinking (Sarc) about how worried everybody is about the next rerrorist attack.  He then posed Gun Culture is a totem or metaphor that 'Disenfranchised White Guys' need. 

Kurt Russel stopped him, dead in his tracks, interrupting him and told him;

"You can say what you want, it's not my thing, If you think Gun Control or something like that is going to change a terrorists point of view, I think like, you're out of your mind, I think anybody is, it's absolutely insane.  The problem we're having right now is we don't have the concepts of how to turn it around and say 'You've think you got me worried about what you're going to do, Dude, you going to find out, what I'm about to do".  And that's going to worry you a lot more and that's what we need.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 13:00 | 6914601 STP
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Dup

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:44 | 6913166 ebworthen
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Yes.  This is about people control not "gun" control.

When was the last time you saw a gun hovering 4' off the ground firing itself?

They want to circle the wagons and protect the hegemony of Wall Street & Washington as they rape The Constitution and turn us all into Serfs; has nothing to do with protecting anything else. 

Vote with your pocketbook, buy an assault rifle today!

End the M.I.C./ Bankster Kleptoligarchy!

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:54 | 6913181 chunga
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Can't go wrong with an Arsenal AK. A little pricey but worth it.

http://www.k-var.com/shop/Arsenal-Rifles/

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whoops...now that I look moast of them are out of stock

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 10:30 | 6914159 Manipuflation
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I ended up on their MTK90 Jubilee page.;-)  I probably don't need one of those.

Check out the WASR-10.  Much cheaper.  I have one and I've run 600-700 rounds through it with no jams or any problems.  Everyone should have at least one of those around. 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 12:24 | 6914491 chunga
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Holy crap,,,that Jubilee is a $5000 AK lol! Arsenal is definately a premium build. Classic Arms usually has good deals on WASRS, Yugo underfolders, etc. But,,,they're pretty much sold out too. Long live the rotating bolt design!

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 15:20 | 6915030 Manipuflation
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Yes, and $5000 just for the silver model.  I immediately loved it but then I remembered this song from back in the day.  Thanks for getting me going again because now I have been to about 100 gun sites.  I know what I am looking for and that is bad enough.  The VEPR AK variant is one of them and then there is this one which they don't make anymore.  The Springfield Armory V-16 Longslide.  That gun kicks ass and I fucked up by not buying one when I had the chance because I was buying other guns and bullion.  Oh, well.  Now I can only find pictures of them.  I needed that Super Redhawk too though.     

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:53 | 6913192 TeamDepends
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Perhaps we need to change the narrative and start calling them "love rifles". "WE'VE COME FOR YOUR ASSAULT RIFLES!!!". Nope sorry, don't have any of those. How 'bout a love letter?

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:02 | 6913380 Ignatius
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Why not?  If I recall the MX ICBM is/was "the Peace Keeper."

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 01:52 | 6913630 Meat Hammer
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Let me shoot you in the face with some love.

Wait...What?

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 02:07 | 6913661 OldPhart
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I love you long time.

 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 07:31 | 6913953 Badsamm
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What a pussy.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 02:18 | 6913655 Demdere
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Gun-control is one of the issues that is kept hot so that the Israeli-Neocons who did the 9/11 false flag operation are not hung.  Every contentious issue in American life is amplified to the maximum as a distraction so that 9/11 does not dominate our attention.

We know there is no substance, rational people would have stopped beating that drum. Soros is obviously wasting his money, why does it continue?  Especially continue with such perverse tactics, that do nothing but cause an uproar and sell guns?

It continues because normal politics cannot be allowed, peace cannot be allowed.  The chaos in the ME, the entire history of that inability to do anything that doesn't make the siutation worse makes sense in the light of 9/11 the Israeli-Neocon false flag operation and their consequent need to avoid the hangman's noose, to continue seizing power here in the US, to continue the coup that was 9/11.

Nobody can have expected any of those 'plans' to have worked at anything but generating the chaos that is Israeli-Neocon's path to power.

If they allow peace, they hang. If they allow normal politics, they hang. Therefore there will be no peace and no normal politics and more false flags and fomenting rebellion to provide the excuses for more authoritarian measures.


9/11 was a False Flag operation by the Israeli-Neocons in the US Government

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 12:31 | 6914512 Grimaldus
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9/11 was done by Saudis/Saudi Government/Islam/ISIS.

If they ever try again they will be nuked to glass. Mecca a radiocative wasteland for 250,000 years.

 

 

 

Grimaldus

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:05 | 6913043 Sanity Bear
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well, he can't come right out and say "give us your guns or we'll shoot all of you"

 

yet

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:06 | 6913045 Who was that ma...
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Is there any kind of gun control that will prevent politicians and government spokespersons from shooting themselves in the foot?

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:43 | 6913171 silverer
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Not that I am aware of.  But it would be nice to have a law to prevent them from opening their mouths and putting their "feats" in it.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:07 | 6913046 booboo
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I would content that the Right to Free Speech has led to more killings.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:08 | 6913051 Orc from Mordor
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It's a good thing when WH can't give an answer. Because when they can, the world tends to laugh. Especially when their answer is based on indisputable evidence which can't be demonstrated.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:08 | 6913052 Government need...
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You cant roll out the Global .gov without grabbing the guns.  That's why.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:14 | 6913055 jakesdad
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follow-up, sir:  is there anyone in this administration who understands the difference between the words "any" and "all"?  if it helps "anyone" means one person versus "everyone" (which I did NOT say) means the entire staff - you know, "common sense" understanding of the english language...

 

[edit:] & just out of curiosity - is there any hope the people who negiotiated the tpp understand the difference between those words?  sorry, that's probably a stupid question - of course pharma & entertainment industry lawyers know the difference...

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:11 | 6913057 chunga
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Common sense dictates we need to stop so many sociopathic assholes from getting jobs in gov. Start by banning them, says I.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:22 | 6913094 didthatreallyhappen
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your icon is very scary, lololol

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:32 | 6913300 Cruel Aid
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Creating gov jobs out of whole cloth, which overlap and show zero resulets. Thats what im getting.

So its the assholes and the jobs in general. We absolutely dont need probably 2/3 of those jobs.

Slacker jobs to your point

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:14 | 6913066 cherry picker
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When you bomb hospitals intentionally because someone 'felt' there may be terrorists inside, people may come to your land and kill a few citizens as they 'felt' they may be responsible for bombing hospitals and killing innocents.

Is it any wonder there are millions of refugees?

How many countries are bombing the shit out of the Middle East trying to cature a few thousand terrorists with different names.  By the time the west is done, there will be nothing and no one left except for one extremist holding up an ISIS lag and smiling a toothless smile as he won.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:31 | 6913128 Joe Sichs Pach
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You make a good point.

 

Now, what's YOUR solution?

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:48 | 6913182 TuPhat
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Solution?  You mean like whiskey and coke?

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:10 | 6913229 greenskeeper carl
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Solution? I have a crazy idea, it's going to sound really off the wall and unconventional, but bear with me: stop bombing people....

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:56 | 6913366 Cruel Aid
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People might like us if we stopped the war. Not part of the agenda! WTF else could it be

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:54 | 6913191 logicalman
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Maybe Western psychopaths, I mean governments could start looking after important matters closer to home rather than fucking about with other such organizations?

Just a thought.

That's my thought, FWIW.

Wouldn't presume to answer for cherry picker!

 

 

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:15 | 6913068 Agstacker
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Probably won't see that reporter in the WH press room again.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:41 | 6913159 silverer
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They don't like the RT reporters, either.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:15 | 6913070 Hey Assholes
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The US government is the biggest arms dealer in the world, fomenting gun violence in many countries, and it has the audacity to try to prevent law abiding citizens from owning guns.

Obama can fuck Reggie up the ass until Moochel comes home. Come for my guns and you will get the bullets first. Better to die standing than live kneeling.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:18 | 6913077 magnumpk
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There are over 300 million guns in the US now. Good luck "controlling" that.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:02 | 6913383 RafterManFMJ
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300,000,001 as of 6 PM today.

Jess doin' my part, people, jess doin' my part.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:46 | 6913502 Shift For Brains
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Just the number of US concealed carry holders have nearly tripled in the past few years. And God knows how many hunters there are, plus other long gun fans etc. You would think someone would finally realize: It ain't gonna happen. You're not taking shit away from the American people. If social security was the third rail of American politics, gun grabs are like laying across a high tension line wrapped in aluminum foil.

It's a groundswell in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION, you morons. Every time you open your mouths, Americans arm up. I thought I was done with my Red&Blue Dawn collection but just hearing Maximum Leader speak nudged me to get another.

We don't have a lot to be glad about our country right now but I sure as hell wouldn't want to be in Europe and hearing news my country's borders now belong to Brussels. There is something exhilerating about knowing the government hates you doing something...and you can just mosey out and do it. TEAM AMERICA. FUCK YEAH.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 03:00 | 6913733 Lurk Skywatcher
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If the gov can't take your guns, they will probably try the next best thing - divide you so you shoot each other with them.

Same result just more messy.

Don't look now, but its already begun....

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:21 | 6913089 didthatreallyhappen
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does the govt understand that people can make their own guns?  it is not brain surgery (except for a leftist pos)

 

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:40 | 6913152 silverer
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Years back the American Rifleman reported a story that was also, I believe, reported in local news.  I've actually contacted the National Rifle Association to look back in their issues so they could republish the story.  It speaks volumes about the whole concept of what gun control is supposed to accomplish, because the story was about an inmate.  Yes.  A prisoner, in prison, that managed to build a working single shot pistol.  If you can't control it there, then where in hell could you control it?

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 01:15 | 6913559 forwardho
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Just to back up your assersion...http://thechive.com/2012/12/06/apparently-you-can-make-an-ak-47-out-of-j...

 

 

 

Beating a shovel into an AK47 receiver.

 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 02:12 | 6913670 OldPhart
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The belt and handle are a nice touch.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:27 | 6913110 MrBoompi
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The only gun violence on the rise is the government-sponsored variety.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 01:12 | 6913563 Government need...
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Maybe the US.gov cartel, because it is SO broke, figures it needs to grab guns from US citizens guns . . . so that they may be paradropped into the sandbox . . . in advancement of their perpetual war initiative.  From the Chi-congo to the Congo, as it were. . . 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 10:09 | 6914122 BiPolarFrenchman
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BINGO

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:27 | 6913111 10mm
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Any body named Josh is a fuckin pussy. Look at him.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:49 | 6913512 Shift For Brains
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He looks like Steve Reeves compared to Maximum Leader. That loser tosses the seaon opening pitch like a 7th grade girl. If we'd pitched like that in school we could have passed for eggplants from facial bruising.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:34 | 6913138 yogibear
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Proves the liberals are insane. They just want control.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:37 | 6913140 Irving Phelps
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Praise Allah...only 11 months of this fucktard left! Trump will never pardon his black ass!

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:35 | 6913143 Bam_Man
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How can you not believe a guy in a suit behind a WH podium named "Earnest"?

Man, they have got the show biz aspect of this down to a tee.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:41 | 6913151 gwar5
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Obama and an army of Lois Lerners can now put anybody on the secret no-fly list.

Global warming deniers, bad... muslim brotherhood, good.

 

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:41 | 6913156 Elliptico
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Stop making sense.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:46 | 6913177 loveyajimbo
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Barry Obongo must get these insipid, craven worm Press Secretarys at the Chicago Man Country faggot Bath House.  They used to be towel boys and passed rigorous DEEP screening...

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:49 | 6913183 CHoward
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The only people stupid enough to abide by laws are US - we're ALL such stupid fucking asses. 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 07:19 | 6913940 man of Wool
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What are you some kind of anarchist or something? Lets break the law.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 08:52 | 6914018 Berspankme
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anarchist is the cake boy in the white house and his congress

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 22:51 | 6913186 blindman
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josh earnest, are you kidding me or
what? what sir, going by the name
earnest, names his son josh? a dyed in
the wool joker i say. it all runs
in the family
anyway ....

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:31 | 6913291 zhandax
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Cut the kid some slack.  He is Biff and Muffy's grandson.  No one makes fun of him at the yacht club.

For our newer idiots, /s

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 08:51 | 6914017 Berspankme
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jews do, it's little joshua

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:06 | 6913216 rapetrain
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It's unfortunate this young man's journalistic career is officially over. He may not even be able to board a public airplane anymore.

We need more people like him asking real questions.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:21 | 6913243 g'kar
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every white house speaker under obomber is a weasely white nerd

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:16 | 6913250 Jack's Raging B...
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He looks at the teleprompter built into the podium very frequently. It's also interesting to observe how his cadence and diction are remarkably similar to Obama's. I wonder who is writing the word's he's reading.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:19 | 6913257 Reaper
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Government demands a monopoly on its protection racket.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:36 | 6913311 Uncertain T
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The fact is that, under Obama, no one gets prosecuted for lying on the background check.... because... well... it's only a preprinted form.... and... well... they just checked the wrong box.

 Under previous administrations, the folks were investigated because lying on the form is a crime.

Fri, 12/11/2015 - 23:45 | 6913340 Fed_is_Love
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Common Sense Act.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:02 | 6913382 SgtShaftoe
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It's nothing to do with mass shootings.  The mass shootings and terror incidents are if not all, then mostly government ops anyway. It's about disarming the population so when they decide to drop the hammer there will be less resistance.  It won't work but the government could murder a lot of people in the process. 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 11:54 | 6914407 Dr. Spin
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It won't work but the government [will] murder a lot of people in the process.

FTFY,

Spoctor Din

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:14 | 6913424 gregga777
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Gun control has absolutely nothing to do with preventing either mass shootings or terrorism or violent crime. Gun control is an Unconstitutional program to disarm the American People to further of the growth of the totalitarian police state. Gun control is one aspect of Sunni Muslim President Barrack Hussein Obama's plan to destroy the United States of America from within.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:19 | 6913435 gregga777
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Sunni Muslim President Barrack Hussein Obama would dearly love the power to deny guns to every one of the millions of Real Americans that he puts on the Unconstitutional "No Fly" lists. It will the duty of every Real American who finds herself or himself on the "No Fly" list to buy guns and lots of ammo in defiance of the Muslim tyrant in the White House.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:23 | 6913443 gregga777
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To the traitors pushing for Unconstitutional limitations on the American People's freedom to buy and own firearms. What part of "…the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." do the political parasites and judicial parasites not understand?

NOTICE—To whom it may concern:

THERE SHALL BE NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON PROSECUTION FOR TREASON.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:26 | 6913451 Abaco
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Mr. Earnest, since none of the measures proposed by the turd Obama would have prevented any of the many mass killings that have happened since the turd took office, isn't Obama very cynically trying to exploit the dead victims for his personal agenda?  My follow up questionsis, doesn't that make your boss the most colossal douche bag in America today?

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:37 | 6913483 tarabel
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Thank you for your question, Mr. Abaco.

And in reply, I'd like to remind you that Hillary Clinton is running for President, so the answer to your question is obviously not found in the same diagrammatic practicality of ultra cosmic sensitivity and ergometric responsiveness. 

Oh, and please have a word with the Press Office on the way out. There seems to be some slight irregularity in your White House credentials that we need to get cleared up before you can attend any future briefings.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:38 | 6913485 navy62802
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Here is a question that I am dying to ask the White House. How can any sane person call for gun control in the United States while (literally, at the same time) air-dropping heavy weapons to Islamic extremists in Syria? The United States has delivered surface to air missiles, medium machine guns, light assault weapons and ammunition for all of the above to extremists in Syria during the past year. How can an administration which approves such actions call for gun control and maintain even an ounce of credibility?

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 05:44 | 6913860 pupdog1
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...don't forget the American attorney general gun-running real combat weapons (not sporting goods store ARs) to Mexican drug lords.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 08:08 | 6913978 Fractal Parasite
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They are trying to drive us to insanity by cognitive dissonance.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 08:47 | 6914010 Berspankme
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apparently we aren't considered "moderate" citizens

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:40 | 6913489 yellensNIRPles
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I will support 'gun control' when the security details (including police and military) of every politician in the United States stop using firearms to PROTECT THEMSELVES, and instead resorts to hand-to-hand combat and or running away with their pussies between their legs as their only means of self defense.

Oh, and the bad guys all get to keep their guns. 

Fucking twats.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:55 | 6913523 Anopheles
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Even better, give every politician a cell phone with 911 programmed to call the local police if they are faced with an attacker.  

 

Just like everyone else.

 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 08:46 | 6914009 Berspankme
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Just do a background check on these pedophiles, rapists and con men

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 00:55 | 6913527 SophoricOne
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The process of back ground checks, serial numbers and registration only applies to guns that are purchased from manufacturers.  It is perfectly legal to make your own.  You might think it is difficult for the average person, but with $6000 and raw materials, you can make your own.  You can start with the Grizzly 704 mill.  That is $1100 and it will take another $2000 to CNC it.  There are numerous sites that give instruction in machining.  One such site is, 

http://www.hossmachine.info

You will need to also get a metal lathe for turning your barrel.  Iron metal round stock can be obtained from Home Depot.  Borers and even already bored rods in common calibers can be obtained from Brownells.  The lathe will run you about $1600.

You can also acquire 80% lowers (the weapon part) from a number of suppliers.  Because they are not complete and requires machines to complete, they are considered paper weights by the ATF.  It takes a weekend to mill an AR15 from scratch materials.  It takes about three weekends to mill a 1911.  Those have to be hand fitted and it takes time and patience.

The point is, ANYONE can build a gun.  If they outlaw lowers, they can still be made from readily available materials at Lowes and Home Depot.  So, in the event the 2A is overturned, it will do nother to prevent criminals from possessing weapons.

I went to the National Final Rodeo in Vegas.  They have Cowboy Christmas, a shopping expo for horses, cattle, guns and God.  One small shop, think "a few guys", builds all of their guns from scratch, including the ammo. http://www.wildwestguns.com

Outlaw guns and only outlaws will have guns.  Just because pussy America belives they can be safe in their red jammies drinking cocoa, they'll be on their knees in orange jammies getting their heads cut off.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 01:03 | 6913547 Duc888
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"You might think it is difficult for the average person, but with $6000 and raw materials, you can make your own."

 

Meh, for $1500 you can have a decent semi based off of a AR.  80% lower and a jig, under $200.    Everything else is mail order.  100% legal.  No need to "register" it either.

 

Fuck King O.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 05:42 | 6913858 pupdog1
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98% of the country can't fix a leaky faucet washer.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 23:05 | 6916343 Squirrel Tooth Alice
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98% of the country is not capable of driving their cars through the automatic car washwithout fucking up something.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 23:06 | 6916344 Squirrel Tooth Alice
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...or post on an internet board, apparently

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 01:00 | 6913541 Duc888
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........ how many rounds has DHS, the Post office, IRS, even Homey- Land Security, etc purchased since King muthafukkin O came to power purchase?

 

Get back to me....

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 01:16 | 6913569 gregga777
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I will never support gun control. The one and only purpose of gun control is the enslavement of the American People in a totalitarian police state. There are already far too many Unconstitutional gun laws. The traitors advocating gun control need to remember one thing:

THERE SHALL BE NO STATUTE OF LIMITATION FOR PROSECUTION OF TREASON.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 07:17 | 6913939 man of Wool
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Grow up. All countries have police forces. What makes Americans so special?

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 08:53 | 6914021 SmallerGovNow2
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Go away fucking troll...

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 12:01 | 6914426 Dr. Spin
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STFU:  The sole purpose of the police today is to preserve the hegemony of the State...and engorge their fat asses on stolen money.

F$CK the CAF laws!

Spoctor Din

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 01:21 | 6913574 gregga777
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Sunni Muslim President Barrack Hussein Obama is an Indonesian citizen and member of the Muslim Brotherhood. But, since he's not an American citizen he isn't a traitor. But, he is a foreign agent and an enemy infiltrator.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 01:44 | 6913613 BapZander
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The gunowners of the US are the real "too big to fail". We just don't get the bailouts. I was pretty effin short on powder there for a while, and no one offered to print me some more at 0%.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 01:51 | 6913628 dexter_morgan
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89+ million legal gun owners killed NOBODY today.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 07:14 | 6913937 man of Wool
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BULLSHIT. Drug(gun)  addiction is a terrible disease.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 08:50 | 6914014 SmallerGovNow2
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Bullshit! You're an idiot 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 01:59 | 6913648 Secret Weapon
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I just want to bitch slap the little press secretary.  Not clever.  Not funny.  We deserve better.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 02:23 | 6913690 Sparehead
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Make sure to give him useless non-answers when he asks crying why he's getting beaten up.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 02:21 | 6913687 Sparehead
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Yay, we're run by people that say 1st Amendment rights are for migrants, but citizens need to give up the 2nd and 5th because their failed policies haven't failed enough yet.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 03:12 | 6913747 idontcare
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Gun control will actually increase mass killings - those mass killings of the unarmed population by the Police State.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 07:12 | 6913933 man of Wool
man of Wool's picture

Rubbish. The police state is your state. You have to have police because so many people break the law. You have police in all countries of the world. America is nothing different. If you did not have such armed and ready to use guns

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 03:21 | 6913751 o r c k
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They pick press secretaries because they're the smartest of the bunch.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 04:40 | 6913805 TheRicker
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In the end they will pass a policy to confiscate all our guns while giving a complimentary automatic weapon to every jihadi that applies for a U.S. passport. This is a joke of course but yet it isn't. It is like a spaceship landed and an alien got out and was declared our president. No backgound that is ours, no empathy for us, no shared patriotism with us except the occassional word that is written for him. Yet he can always tell us that is not who we are as Americans. Who is he talking about? I know the country I grew up in!! He is some freak that hasn't a clue about us and by that I mean home grown "salt of the earth" Americans. Everytime I see him talk its like Edgar Bergen has his hand in his back. Except those that make him talk are much more powerful and evil with global ambitions that will empower them and turn the average American into cattle. Enough said.

P.S. The 1930's and WWII is just a warm up for what is coming. 

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 08:14 | 6913975 lakecity55
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So the Albert Pike guy was right.

Look at Europe and the US. Looks like we already have a world govt.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 08:35 | 6913998 Grimaldus
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Big government worshiping progressive criminals want to be able to kill American citizens without resistance.

Being progressive criminals, they are afraid of armed law abiding citizens.

Remember, Obirdbrain is a Bill Ayers protege. And Bill Ayers wants 25 million American citizens dead so he can have his progressive utopia.

 

 

Some perspective for you all. Government murders far moar than all wars combined. Government is the biggest MURDERER ever in history. Government is never to be trusted, as evidenced by history. Any citizen of any country outside of government advocating for disarming fellow citizens is asking to be killed. Duh.

 

The progressive stupid, it burns.

 

 

Grimaldus

 

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:56 | 6919580 TheRicker
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"Government is never to be trusted" Grimaldus, perhaps that is why the founders put "In God we Trust" on our coins.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 08:52 | 6914019 lakecity55
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Well, Bath House, the Apache fought Europeans for 300 years.

Guess what? You just turned millions of Americans into Apache.

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 09:18 | 6914042 Shhh dont wake ...
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So if people on the No-Fly List are the main concern, why are they even allowed to mingle freely with the population to begin with ?  It's only common sense.

Passing stricter gun control laws in this instance would just be a means to continue allowing suspected terrorists to remain free within the US.  What bullshit!!!!

Sat, 12/12/2015 - 10:09 | 6914120 d edwards
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beware the no fly list strawman: people get put on without due process, at the whim of govt operativess-if your not a freind of the current regime they just might put you on.

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