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Is ISIS Simply A "Saudi Army In Disguise"?
Authored by F. William Engdahl via New Eastern Outlook,
In recent weeks one nation after another is falling over themselves, literally, to join the turkey shoot known, erroneously, as the war in Syria, ostensibly against the Islamic State or Daesh. The most wanted but most feared question is where will this war frenzy lead, and how can it be stopped short of dragging the entire planet into a world war of destruction?
On September 30, responding to a formal invitation or plea from the duly-elected President of the Syrian Arab Republic, the Russian Federation began what was an initially highly effective bombing campaign in support of the Syrian Government Army.
On 13 November following the terror attacks claimed by ISIS in Paris, the French President proclaimed France was “at war” and immediately sent her one and only aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, to Syria to join the battle. Then on December 4, the German Parliament approved sending 1,200 German soldiers and six Tornado jets to “help” France. Reports out of Germany say the Germans will not work with Russia or the Assad regime, but with CentCom command in Florida and coalition headquarters, not in Damascus, but in Kuwait. The same week the UK Parliament approved sending British planes and forces to “fight ISIS” in Syria. Again we can be sure it’s not to help Russia’s cause in cooperation with the Syrian Army of Assad to restore sovereignty to Syria.
Then Turkey’s hot-head President Recep Erdo?an, fresh from his criminal, premeditated downing of the Russian SU-24 in Syria, orders Turkish tanks into the oil-rich Mosul region of Iraq against the vehement protests of the Iraqi government. And added to this chaos, the United States claims that its planes have been surgically bombing ISIS sites for more than a year, yet the result has been only to expand the territories controlled by ISIS and other terror groups.
If we take a minute to step back and reflect, we can readily realize the world is literally going berzerk, with Syria as merely the ignition to a far uglier situation which has the potential to destroy our lovely, peaceful planet.
Something major missing
In recent weeks I have been increasingly unsatisfied by the general explanations about who is actually pulling the strings in the entire Middle East plot or, more precisely, plots, to the point of reexamining my earlier views on the role of Saudi Arabia. Since the June, 2015 surprise meeting in St Petersburg between Russian President Putin and Saudi Defense Minister Prince Salman, the Saudi monarchy gave a carefully cultivated impression of rapprochement with former arch-enemy Russia, even discussing purchase of up to $10 billion in Russian military equipment and nuclear plants, and possible “face time” for Putin with the Saudi King Salman.
The long procession of Arab leaders going to Moscow and Sochi in recent months to meet President Putin gave the impression of a modern version of the walk to Canossa in1077 of Holy Roman Emperor Henry IV to Pope Gregory VII at Canossa Castle, to beg revocation of Henry’s ex-communication. This time it looked like it was the Gulf Arab monarchs in the role of Henry IV, and Vladimir Putin in the role of the Pope. Or so it seemed. I at least believed that at the time. Like many global political events, that, too, was soaked in deception and lies.
What is now emerging, especially clear since the Turkish deliberate ambush of the Russian SU-24 jet inside Syrian airspace, is that Russia is not fighting a war against merely ISIS terrorists, nor against the ISIS backers in Turkey. Russia is taking on, perhaps unknowingly, a vastly more dangerous plot. Behind that plot is the hidden role of Saudi Arabia and its new monarch, King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, together with his son, the Defense Minister, Prince Salman.
Saudi ‘impulsive intervention policy’
German media has widely reported a leaked German BND intelligence estimate. The BND is Germany’s version of the CIA. The BND report, among other things, concentrates on the rising role of the King’s son, 30-year-old Prince Mohammed bin Salman. Referring to the child prince’s important role the BND states, “The current cautious diplomatic stance of senior members of the Saudi royal family will be replaced by an impulsive intervention policy.”
Prince Salman is Defense Minister and led the Kingdom, beginning last March, into a mad war, code-named by Salman as “Operation Decisive Storm,” in neighboring Yemen. Saudis headed a coalition of Arab states that includes Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Sudan, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Qatar and Bahrain. The Prince is also head of the Saudi Economic Council which he created.
The new King, Salman, is not the benign sweet guy his PR staff try to paint him.
As my soon-to-be-released book, The Lost Hegemon: Whom the gods would destroy, documents in detail, ever since CIA Cairo Station Chief Miles Copeland organized the transfer of the Muslim Brotherhood, banned in Egypt for an alleged assassination attempt against Nasser, to Saudi Arabia in the early 1950’s, there has existed a perverse marriage of the Saudi monarchy and radical “Islamic” terrorist organizations. As described by John Loftus, a former US Justice Department official, by the joining of Egypt’s Muslim Brothers and Saudi strict Islam, “they combined the doctrines of Nazism with this weird Islamic cult, Wahhabism.”
Allen Dulles’ CIA secretly persuaded the Saudi monarchy in 1954 to help rebuild the banned Muslim Brotherhood, thereby creating a fusion of the Brotherhood with Saudi ultra-fundamentalist Wahhabi Islam and, of course, backed by the vast Saudi oil riches. The CIA planned to use the Saudi Muslim Brothers to wield a weapon across the entire Muslim world against feared Soviet incursions. A fanatical young terrorist named Osama bin Laden was later to arise out of this marriage in Hell between the Brotherhood and Wahhabite Saudi Islam.
King Salman was in the middle of creating Osama bin Laden’s Al Qaeda as it was later dubbed in the media. His involvement goes back to the late 1970’s when he, as Governor of Riyadh, was named head of major conservative Saudi charities later discovered financing Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and Bosnia. Salman worked intimately as the financial funding conduit for what became Al Qaeda together with bin Laden’s Saudi intelligence “handler,” then-head of Saudi Intelligence, Prince Turki Al-Faisal and the Saudi-financed Muslim World League.
King Salman in those days headed the Saudi High Commission for Relief to Bosnia-Herzegovina, a key front for al-Qaeda in the Balkans in the 1990s. According to a United Nations investigation, Salman in the 1990s transferred more than $120 million from commission accounts under his control — as well as his own personal accounts — to the Third World Relief Agency, an al-Qaida front and the main pipeline for illegal weapons shipments to al-Qaida fighters in the Balkans. Osama bin Laden was directly involved in those operations of Salman.
During the US invasion of Iraq in 2003-4, Al Qaeda entered that country, headed by Moroccan-born terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who had pledged allegiance to bin Laden’s Al Qaeda, creating Al Qaeda in Iraq, later calling itself the Islamic State in Iraq, the Saudi-financed forerunner of ISIS. A declassified Pentagon DIA document shows that in August 2012, the DIA knew that the US-backed Syrian insurgency was dominated by Islamist militant groups including “the Salafists, the Muslim Brotherhood and al-Qaeda in Iraq.” According to author Gerald Posner, Salman’s son, Ahmed bin Salman, who died in 2002, also had ties to al-Qaida.
A Saudi Oil Imperium
If we look at the emergence of Al Qaeda in Iraq and its transformation into the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), it all traces back to the Saudi operations going back to the late 1970’s involving now-King Salman, Saudi Osama bin Laden, together with Saudi intelligence head, Prince Turki Al-Faisal.
Washington and the CIA worked intimately with this Saudi network, bringing bin Laden and other key Saudis into Pakistan to train with the Pakistani ISI intelligence, creating what became the Afghan Mujahideen. The Mujahideen were created by Saudi, Pakistani and US intelligence to defeat the Soviet Red Army in the 1980’s Afghanistan war, the CIA’s “Operation Cyclone.” Cyclone was Zbigniew Brzezinski’s plan to lure Moscow into an Afghan “Bear Trap” and give the Soviet Union what he called their “Vietnam.”
The so-called ISIS today in Iraq and Syria, as well as the Al Qaeda Al-Nusra Front in Syria and various other Jihad terror splinter gangs under attack from Russia and the Damascus government of Assad, all have their origins in Saudi Arabia and the activities of King Salman.
Has the King undergone a Saul-to-Paul conversion to a pacific world view since becoming King, and his son, Prince Salman as well? Despite signals in recent months that the Saudis have ceased financing the anti-Assad terror organizations in Syria, the reality is the opposite.
The Saudis Behind Erdo?an
Much attention of late is given, understandably, to the Turkish dictatorship of the thug, Recep Tayyip Erdo?an. This is especially so since his Air Force deliberately shot down the Russian SU-24 jet over Syrian territory, an act of war. What few look at are the ties of Erdo?an and his AKP to the Saudi monarchy.
According to a well-informed Turkish political source I spoke with in 2014, who had been involved in attempts to broker a peace between Assad and Erdo?an, Erdo?an’s first Presidential election campaign in August 2014 was “greased” by a gift of $ 10 billion from the Saudis. After his victory in buying the presidential election, Erdo?an and his hand-picked Prime Minister Ahmet Davuto?lu opened the doors wide to establish secret training centers for what was to be called ISIS. Under supervision of Hakan Fidan, Erdo?an’s hand-picked head of the Secret Services (MIT), Turkey organized camps for training ISIS and other terrorists in Turkey and also to provide their supplies in Syria. The financing for the Turkish ISIS operation was arranged apparently by a close personal friend of Erdo?an named Yasin al-Qadi, a Saudi banker close to the Saudi Royal House, member of the Muslim Brotherhood, financier of Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda since Afghanistan in the 1980’s. x
Erdo?an’s US-sanctioned and Saudi-financed terrorist training camps have brought an estimated 200,000 mercenary terrorists from all over the world, transited by Turkey in order to wage “jihad” in Syria.
But that jihad, it is now clear, is not about Allah but about Moola—money. The Saudi monarchy is determined to control the oil fields of Iraq and of Syria using ISIS to do it. They clearly want to control the entire world oil market, first bankrupting the recent challenge from US shale oil producers, then by controlling through Turkey the oil flows of Iraq and Syria.
Saudi TOW missiles to ISIS
In May 2014, the MIT transferred to ISIS terrorists in Syria, by special train, a quantity of heavy weapons and new Toyota pick-ups offered by Saudi Arabia.
Now a detailed investigation of the Turkish shoot down of the Russian SU-24 jet reveals that the Turkish F-16 jet that shot down the jet was supported by two AWACS reconnaissance planes that enabled the Turkish F-16 exact hit, a very difficult if not impossible feat against a jet as agile as the SU-24. One of the AWACS planes was a Boeing AWACS E-3A of the Saudi Arabian air force which took off from the Riyadh, Saudi Arabia airbase.
Then, as a Russian rescue helicopter rushed to the scene of the SU-24 crash, Saudi TOW anti-aircraft missiles shot the Russian helicopter down. The Saudis had sent 500 of the highly-effective TOW missiles to anti-Assad terror groups in Syria on October 9.
What we have, then, is not an isolated Russian war against ISIS in Syria. What lies behind ISIS is not just Erdo?an’s criminal regime, but far more significant, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and her Wahhabite allies Kuwait, UAE, Qatar.
In the true sense, ISIS is simply a “Saudi army in disguise.”
If we strip away the phony religious cover, what emerges is a Saudi move to grab some of the world’s largest oil reserves, those of the Sunni parts of Iraq, and of Syria, using the criminal Turkish regime in the role of thug to do the rough work, like a bouncer in a brothel. If Moscow is not conscious of this larger dimension, she runs the risk of getting caught in a deadly “bear trap” which will more and more remind them of Afghanistan in the 1980’s.
What stinks in Saudi Arabia ain’t the camel dung. It’s the monarchy of King Salman and his hot-headed son, Prince Salman. For decades they have financed terrorism under a fake religious disguise, to advance their private plutocratic agenda. It has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with money and oil. A look at the ISIS map from Iraq to Syria shows that they precisely targeted the oil riches of those two sovereign states. Saudi control of that oil wealth via their ISIS agents, along with her clear plan to take out the US shale oil competition, or so Riyadh reckons, would make the Saudi monarchy a vastly richer state, one, perhaps because of that money, finally respected by white western rich men and their society. That is clearly bovine thinking.
Don’t bet on that Salman.
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If the shoe fits.
Yes, next question.
Why aren't we looking into the Saudi role in San Bernardino attack? Shooter Tashfeen Malik was radicalized in Saudi Arabia, her Pakistani family said.
Does The Pope shit in the woods? Oh Wait!
If I were Putin I'd stage a wahhabi terorist attack in Moscow (in some asian/muslim immigrant neighbourhood) ..quickly link it to Rhyadh and get a rain of 100s conventional/enriched uranium (maybe a small nuke "slipped" between them) ICBMs over SaudiArabia in less than 72h and blow them 500years back in time. Obviously miss a couple of them over Qatar.
Effects:
Oil price would jump to around $80 overnight
Syria+ Iraq cleared of ISIS. Leave Iran, the new BRICS member, guard the ME animal farm
Almost islamist Europe bowing gracefully before the saviour and renewing economic ties.
Seeing all the West with their diapers filled - PRICELESS.
UN? Pfff .. after all is said and done, to the Victor goes the spoils.
PS. by the writings of Nostradamus this scenario is not that far fetched.
Oh yes, Nostradamus with his crazy prophecies that do not make a lot of sense. In 1986 or there abouts the mother of my children had a hard time sleeping that year as Nostradamus had predicted the 'big one' would hit California, at least an 8 or 9 on the Richter. I read the prediction but couldn't make sense of it, yet people claimed it was about an earth quake.
Looks like you take ZH comments a bit TOO SERIOUS.
And those of Nostradamus also.
Reggie may not like it but Barry is in bed with sheek salman.
Saudi Arabia is not a member of NATO.
Russia just might figure that out and fix the problem at the source.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-11/prince-beheading-champ-saudi-arabia-calls-trump-disgrace-america#comment-6912668
Sunni country supporting Sunni insurrection against Shia governments in Iraq and Syria after supporting 9/11: Surprise or no?
"If Moscow is not conscious of this larger dimension, she runs the risk of getting caught in a deadly “bear trap” which will more and more remind them of Afghanistan in the 1980’s."
I'm pro-Russian as well, but I repeatedly warned against that, only to harvest red kudos. The best thing IMHO that Putin could do is NOT to be drawn into a large geopolitical and semi-religious proxy war in the Middle East.
Unless of course Putin deliberately wants to destabilize the Middle East so that Russia can dominate the oil and gas market?
Is ISIS simply a Muslim army in disguise.
There. FIFU
Wake the fuck up white man
Duh
"Is ISIS simply a Muslim army in disguise."
If you want to call the bedsheets that the CIA & Mossad funded mercenaries, 'disguises', then perhaps you're correct. The 'Muslim' part mostly comes from what the funders of the people wearing the bedsheets want you to think they are (vis-a-vis, the scary boogeyman du jour that your BFF;s in the ZOG captured government have decided North American soccer moms should fear).
~"Is ISIS Simply A "Saudi Army In Disguise"?"~
If they aren't they need better disguises. They look just like Wahhabis.
I had some of that with my sushi last night. It made my nose all tingly.
Why even use bedsheets? Check out how precisely the pump can be primed to pre-accuse 'Muslims' of false flag attacks in the U.S. before they even happen: It Just Got MUCH Worse With The Sneaky Muslim Walmart Shoppers In Missouri
Apparently, the religious affiliation of Wal*Mart shoppers is easily discernable by their 'Middle-eastern appearance'. I wonder of Sunni look different than Shia?
Is there suppose to be some imaginary terrorist attacks in the U.S. this Christmas? There's so many nowadays that I lose track. Seems like the MSM is going full-retard with Craft International's odd San Bernardino false flag, so I assume they have something bigger planned for North American soccer moms in the near future.
I honestly expected Israel to trot out the Iranian Shia terrorist false flags by now. If they keep going overboard with the Saudi-inspired Wahhabi terrorists, the soccer moms will get confused and forget Nettanyahu's warning that Iranian Shia are, in fact, the most imminent threat to mankind.
Iranians and Donald Trump, I guess. I'm still scratching my head about the latest Trump/Israel intrigue. None of the rumors seem credible, but something unexpected obviously happened.
In any case, I use 'North American soccer moms', as a metaphorical 'poster child' here.
Naturally, this is all 'psy ops'... The first rule of any PSY OP is to go after the low hanging fruit... NASM = 'low hanging fruit' on account of the impressionability quotient...
Over the past 40-50 years, white American males have been pulverized into oblivion from everything including 'The Great American Society', to bra burning & women's lib, to 'gay pride', to 'metrosexualism', to 'affirmative action', all the way down to silly things such as 'lumbersexuals', etc. etc. etc.
It's still not over... Now they want your guns...
At this point, the white American male is 100% zombified and would simply rather be left alone to sit on the couch and contemplate the 20 fathoms of ocean over his head (or FORGET about it, as the case may be), and sip whatever beer his wife allows him to drink while she is out there getting prepared to be 'READY FOR HILARY'
I agree with your social analysis.
Take heart my friend, things change.
It's the way.
For a Few Dollars More - Final Duel (1965 HD)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JPnR7C8mZQ&html5=1
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly Final Duelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6tR78d0cmA&html5=1
The attack has been on Gen X, because they know we will never go along with this shit...EVER.
There are 80 million of us according to the fourth turning socially, (1961-1981) we are in our prime 34-54 right now, our turn to lead regardless..
One last baby boomer sell out clown show.
The country will begin to wake up in 2017-18.
Then we will start to face the damage.
I Won't Back Down Tom Pettyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTXb-ga1fo&html5=1
Johnny Cash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8i5NLyXZdc&html5=1
We will prevail.
So here is an interesting thought picture..
Young Prince Salman is comfortably ensconced in his gilded palace bedroom getting a nice massage from his most recent virgin acquisition only to have a fraction of a second to discover that his “happy ending” is provided by a Russian Kalibr-NK cruise missile.
NATO- the American big dog with a lot of lap-dogs following.
NATO will do nothing without the nod from Washington.
Now is the time to hobble Turkey and the House of Saud.
"Barry is in bed with sheek salman."
I'm not defending Obama but this situation started long before he came along. He just does as he's told.
And happily so. The perfect man for the job.
Sheeek salman's salami?
Didn't the Saudis pay for Obamas education and buy him the Harvard Law Review gig?
White French being beaten up by Muslims, they say this ends in civil war because the government and media won't even recognize it because 90% of Muslims voted for the socialist President. This is all about communism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0j4Vm-XVIY
"Why aren't we looking into the Saudi role in the San Bernardino attack. Shooter Tashfeen Malik was radicalized in Saudi Arabia, her Pakistani family said".
Because witnesses said that there were THREE shooter, all dressed in Military attire, tall and WHITE. Carly Fiorino also leaked information that the automatic weapons were registered to a Government Enforcement Agency. We don't have to look as far as Saudi Arabia for the shooters in San Bernardino, just Washington D.C.
If there even were shooters. Isn't that special forces operation still ongoing?
"This is all about communism."
Power is the object. "Communism" and all the other "ism's" are a distraction.
It's hard to take you serious "Tyler Durderian". Your specialty is ghastly porn links with shortened urls. You got kicked off not long ago when you were using the screen name "Anonymous User".
Hey, even serious people rely on porn, just look at the SEC. They are super-serious about their porn. Fraud by the banksters......not so much.
7.0 1989
Nostradamus with his crazy prophecies that do not make a lot of sense.
Hey - I resemble that remark!
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Nice! Now you're thinking like a jew. Fuck Nostradamus, that shit is in the holiest book of Satan... the Quran. Saudi along with mecca is to be anhillated, along with 99% of the Arabs.
But to be honest, your jew worshipping mind is too hooked on convoluted scheming to realise that he doesnt have to stage a wahabi terrorist attack. What's the point? It's not like the West are going to say "yeah a proportionate response to that would be to nuke Saudi". You dirty fuckers are so jewed up, your media wouldn't even report it and you'd demonize Putin anyway. Now, a muslim could easily be convinced to ride a goat into Mecca with a nuke strapped to his back and set it off himself. Fuck, I'll do it, if you arrange me a marriage to a goat.
Fucking jew culture - always trying to get someone else to do their dirty work. Muslims believe in a God. That's why we don't try to hide shit from him. If a goat needs to be fucked, I'll do it myself, in open view. You dont send a jew in to crash a plane into an office block - the fucker will always back out.
This guy "ali-baba" reminds me of MDB in that his scathing, caustic sarcasm is hard to differentiate from the sincere. I hereby dub such humour, Sarcaustic Irony!
Putin is not a US president, so sorry, but he does not stage false flag terror attacks. But as for the article: perhaps unknowingly? Putin knows all that very well, he was even personally threatened by one of Saudis royals, I think it was in 2013....And both Saudis and Turkey lure and train Chechen rebels. Several mosques were also closed all over Russia recently because of extremism - sponsored either from Turkey or Saudi Arabia! You still do not understand, why Putin is in Syria? ISIS was created first of all to fight Russia. There were many Chechen fighters among the "Turkmens", who shot the pilot from the downed Russian plane and they were led by a Turkish citizen.
So ISIS, as well as Al-Quaeda, was created to fight Russia among other reasons (remember Afghanistan). And to fight China as well, remember their muslim Uighur region. Most Russians understand that they are in WWIII already, the difference now is that, unlike Stalin, Putin is not waiting for it to come home and he has started to fight them in Syria. He simply told himself that if we are to have a global war and cannot evade it, better to start somewhere away from Russia and kill as many as possible there. This is why Russians accepted the war in Syria, although they normally do not want Putin to go to any wars. A recent poll showed that, unlike Americans, Russians do not think that a war can achieve "justice", or democracy, or whatever, but war is a tragedy to be fought from sheer necessity for survival. And Russia is now fighting for survival.
This is also why Putin was talking about using nukes It was a message to the Empire and her slaves: Russia will not give up, because she fights for her survival and Russia is ready to go to the very end, if pushed to do so. Better to die, than to be a slave. As one Russsian told me, their favourite motto in WWII was: Russians don't surrender.
And Russians are some tough mother fuckers. Sticking it out at Stalingrad in the bitter cold.
In the 60's we were taught to hate and fear Russians. As an adult I came to know more of their history and culture. Yes, USSR was a disgrace, but the Russian people overcame it. Though I don't speak a word of Russian, I'd love to tour there one day just to admire what they consider their proudest achievements.
I wish we had a little of their moxie. Shutting down terror breeding ground mosques sounds good to me.
Went to Russia right after I got out of college in early 90s. Went back twice. After the old Soviet Union collapsed, Russia struggled mightily. While Putin is no saint, he did manage to improve the lot of the average Russian, jailed many of thevoligarchs and gangs that had robbed the country blind. I went to an old Russian orthodox church like 92, old ladies were sweeping the streets, begging for spare change. One old lady....just made me choke. I gave her 20 bucks, she started kissing my hand....will never never forget that. The 90s were HELL for most Russians. The ones who survived the best haf small plots and grew food. IMF, and US Harvard assholes, made matters worse. Courtesy of IMFrvard advisers, the ""shock therapies imposed saw savings of Russians destroyed overnight..thank you fuckheadvJeffrey Sachs, Larry Summers, and Jonathan Hays in cahoots with Anatoli Chubais. Putin not perfect, but he has had some good policies, flat tax, giving small plots if land for growing food to 35million Russiabs, bringing Christianity back, and to some exteht dergulating small business...not to mention caring enough about his nation to not be bullied by USSA ...If I were Putin, I would take out Mecca if the Saufds do not quit their shit. If memory serves, Muslims believe if Mecca is destroyed, Islam has lost their god's favor.
well. i suppose the the best article i;ve seen around these parts inna long time would bring the best outta the new batch of folks that lurk here. thnx tyler engdal
the article is indeed not bad. some stuff is not falsifiable, but good, nevertheless. the conclusion, though, is a bit funny. yes, "the spice" flows unhindered from ISIS held territories
yes, letting oil on the market seems to fit the Saudi market strategy of pushing oil prices down, and this is hell for the US shale oil production
but oil price, or even oil itself is not the only reason for Saudis to "meddle in their region", so no, it's not "all about the US", a lot is also about the Middle East itself
Bush Junior's presidency made the strategic decision of "de-Ba'athification of Iraq". By that, they gave Arab Nationalism (with a social component) and Pan-Arabism a kick in the guts
I wonder if they had even the faintest idea where this would lead to
"I wonder if they had even the faintest idea where this would lead to"
I don't personally believe you're that naive, Ghordo, so it's a question of whether you're plain dumb or just acting as such.
The standard M.O of Pax Americana democracy-making process in the last 50 years consists of overthrowing secular governments and replacing them with puppets, while fueling sectarian violence in the background, oftentimes resulting in so called "latent (civil) wars" - the breakfast of Zio-champions. De-Ba'athification of Iraq was neither the first, nor the last occurrence of the 'divide et impera/ordo ab chao'-doctrine, as withessed by Gaddafi's Libya and Assad's Syria...
George Junior should have listened to his father who nixed Swartzkopf's "Now on to Bagdad!" statement. George senior knew better than to "take" that country.
William Engdahl is a world class thinker, especially on the subject of oil. Not a Tyler. Check him at http://journal-neo.org/
Yes, and NEO is a great site
If the foo shits.
Islamic Circle
Given to terrorist mom, Rafia Sultana Farook, a certificate found at her home by reporters after the FBI had left, shows that Hillary aid, Huma Abedin, has a connection to the terrorist Farook family. The Abedins planned these worldwide social changes to countries that host Muslim diaspora through immigration and Islamic proselytizing. http://shoebat.com/2015/12/09/89068/
She won't be raisin her kid.
@Moccasin "Shooter Tashfeen Malik..." Doubtful she shot anybody, certainly not proven.
See that's the thing, people are already certain of the 'facts' in the murderous case because they heard it on teevee and from officials and we don't trust moose limbs. Nothing surprises me anymore. Crisis actors, long closed schools where children were supposedly murdered, fake blood and injuries at a marathon bombing... on and on.
Don't know anything about Fetzer's just very recently released book other than he says Amazon.com banned it. He is giving it away now: http://rense.com/general96/nobodydiedatsandyhook.pdf
Re: San Bernardino.
Fact: There was an attack.
Fact: People were shot.
Fact: People died, for real.
Other events, I have no personal knowledge. This one I do.
I've seen three MSM personal interviews that say some variation of "three big white guys" did it and/or that Farook didn't do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWrSdY0NWgg
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1095786/pg1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiH9EZrSJsI
Yawn... Dude cuz 3 white men were the perps in the San Bernardino shootings and it was a false flag for US gun control... next... its been known since 2011 that the US has been in bed w Qatar and Saudi Arabia sucking their dicks, creating ISIS fucks to push a Qatari pipeline through Syria and foiling Russias plan to build the South stream. It's really between the US, Russia and the rest of the USD haters, the Saudis and Qataris just happen to be there w oil and alot of USDs to buy our bullshit UST's....this was a dumb and very slow to the scene article
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, as by the rulers as useful." -- Lucius Annaeus Seneca
Great quote!
Article: Is ISIS Simply A "Saudi Army In Disguise"?
No. Much worse, because they are not under a state supervision.
They call themselves Islamic State. Their state is in fact a caliphate with expanding borders.
Exactly.
Well....... maybe ..... maybe not.... anyone catch Qatar with it's hand in the "False Flag" cookie jar?
http://www.voltairenet.org/article189607.html
Not sure what you're referring to (I don't click on links offered, sorry) but complete idiots-in power-can do some pretty stupid things, to-wit:
"The investigation took time. Arms were twisted, noses put out of joint. But when the results came back, they were stunning: The Stinger tracked back to a lot that had been signed out by the CIA recently, not during the anti-Soviet jihad.
Reports of the Stinger reached the highest echelons of the US command in Afghanistan and became a source of intense speculation, but no action.
Everyone knew the war was winding down. Revealing that the Taliban had US-made Stingers risked demoralizing coalition troops. Because there were no coalition casualties, government officials made no public announcement of the attack.
My sources in the US Special Operations community believe the Stinger fired against the Chinook was part of the same lot the CIA turned over to the Qataris in early 2011, weapons Hillary Rodham Clinton’s State Department intended for anti-Khadafy forces in Libya."
They found the serial number on the Stinger...the link...
http://nypost.com/2014/06/08/how-the-taliban-got-their-hands-on-modern-u...
The only minor point I disagree with in Engdahl's article is the characterization that the Saudis want to control the actual oil in Syria and Iraq. That's messy for a number of reasons and impractical in any real political sense. What the Saudis wanted control of oil prices and production there, but not the actual oil. Their own oil keeps them fat and happy, as long as they can sell it for inflated prices. When they can't and oil is allowed to be priced by free markets, it's worth about what it is today. That can't be tolerated!
The biggest threat to their power in price-rigging would be the Shia crescent - Iran, Iraq and Syria. I find it odd that Engdahl makes no mention of Iran in this article - the Saudis are best buds with Israel in their eternal quest for the Iranian genocide and theft of its petroleum resources. For Israel, it's also about energy security. Syria, Iraq and Iran have ALWAYS refused to sell any oil or gas to Isarel over their treatment of the Palestinians (among other crimes). This drives people like Nettanyahu insane - NOBODY is allowed to sanction Israel for their crimes against humanity. That's like a country refusing to join the Rothschild banking cabal or use USD for trade. Leaders of those disobedient nations will be exterminated by ZATO. In the case of Iraq, the U.S. will simply create a fake Kurdistan to carve off the northern Iraqi oil fields for them. Fake Kurdistan loves to sell Israel discounted oil - that's why it's being created.
Saudi royalty has always been obsessed with the military and economic (oil) 'threat' of all three nations: Syria, Iraq and Iran. They need someone like the U.S. or ZATO to run things, but do their (Saudi) part by readily supporting and exporting all the home-grown Wahabbist nutjobs the West requests for their latest fake terror organization. Think ISIS is the end of it? Think again.
Saudi Arabia does not see Israeli/U.S. theft of northern Iraqi oil fields as a threat because they would readily agree to rig prices or production in concert with the Saudis. The Saudis also never had the military might nor political wherewithal to take over and control Syria, Iraqi and Iranian oil. I'm not sure how Engdahl figures that's even possible. Headchoppers are bad statesmen and even poorer businessmen - they are incompetent at anything but medieval-style oppression. The Saudis are perfectly happy to supply head-choppers to secure the Shia crescent oil for nations 'friendly' to Saudi price-rigging. They never expected ISIS to control the oil on a permanent basis. Likewise, Israel has little interest in controlling northern Iraq (Kurdish) oil wells itself. Like Saudi Arabia, they are content to have them controlled by nations 'friendly' to Israeli interests. That would be the U.S., Britain. and France to some extent.
Most of the fields up north are relatively small compared to the fields down south (Rumaila, Zubair, West Qurna).
What is interesting is Anbar province and western Iraq. The soviets never got around to mapping the west of Iraq though there are some known large gas deposits out there.
The Saudis want Iraq carved up into 3 pieces so they can trade with the Sunnis.
I am seeing a growing rift between Sunnis and Shias in the Middle East.
I ran into this interview a few minutes ago while looking for a comment Nixon made about Iran and stability/instability in the Middle East. (Go figure.)
Apparently, this video was posted in 2014 but was recorded in 2011 -- before the Arab Spring. It goes a bit into islamic end time prophecy and the relations between Sunni and Shia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEXU3jpnkgE
Disclaimer: The music, the lead-in, the sales pitch for products have a sensational bent. I tend to avoid videos from this source because of the off-putting nature of those built-in features.
However, this interview is worth it, IMO. It provides a very short course for people who are interested in comparative end time prophecy and motivating factors for the religious muslim extremists.
I actually watched most of it, azusgm. I understand very little about Islam, but enough to know that evangelicals interpreting Shia Twelver theology and 'end-time prophecies' is usually pretty entertaining. Joel Richardson doesn't disappoint.
"The Coming Is Near" video was suppose to have been produced by Iranian clerics to rally muslims for the invasion of Israel or some wide-scale war on everyone. Yet the video's production was eventually traced back to some shady Jewish-backed outfit - go figure. It was never released in Iran and had no backing of any of the ayatollahs - they never heard of it. In fact, the video seemed expressly designed as a fake to incite Christians against those crazy Iranians when the nuclear weapons ban and end of Iranian sanction talks were getting started.
I have only a hazy recollection of this whole scandal, but I remember a Shia - maybe a cleric - pointing out that Iran has no intentions of ever invading Israel or occupying Jerusalem. He suggested (back then) that it appeared that Israel had such intentions, making them the prophesized anti-Christ. Fast forward to today and guess which government has seized Jerusalem (and the holy sites of the three major religions) and declared it their capital? Sorry, but if the shoe fits...
Thanks, Paveway.
Interesting remarks.
The US has started covering up the financial tracks. They have taken out Abu Saleh, the ISIS financial officer along with two associates 'as part of a campaign to destroy ISIS' financial infrastructure'.
The associates were Abu Maryam, leader of the ISIS extortion network and Abu Rahman al-Tunisi who coordinated logistics.
"The United States is leading a 65-nation coalition against the Islamic State [ISIS/ISIL] and for more than a year it can only claim one good hit, i.e. ISIS finance officer, Abu Saleh, of all terrorists."
https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2015/12/13/cia-saleh-daesh/
Seems pretty logical. Still none of us have enough intel to verify or falsifie and having so would also be very dangerous. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Still there´s a lot of hurt to be avoided and a lot of money to be made if you have some understanding of the real machinations going-on. Oil at 100 USD again would really have a lot of potential.
Another thing in this clusterfuck is that no operational plane survives first contact with the enemy. All these events lead to severely pissed off people that develop their own motivations and agendas. Sometimes unexpectedly. Like breaking the symmetrically lined up balls at first shot in a pool-game. A lot of those balls will end up in unexpected places.
I guess we will get more guidance when the next event happens. I don´t think it will take long time.Actually these times are becoming quite dangerous. Maybe X-mas shopping in crowded places should be avoided as well as excessive travelling.
Maybe yule-tide out in the countryside ain´t so bad. Perhaps even rest of next year until fog of war desperses somewhat.
ever since CIA Cairo Station Chief Miles Copeland organized the transfer of the Muslim Brotherhood, banned in Egypt for an alleged assassination attempt against Nasser, to Saudi Arabia in the early 1950’s, there has existed a perverse marriage of the Saudi monarchy and radical “Islamic” terrorist organizations.
I've been waiting for a 'bad guy' to finally show up or we'd have no fun at all and that area of the world would go back to being our responsibility instead of Russia's!
Look, we've been dragged into these religious wars for these douchebags since the 50's w/the Shah after WW2 ended in the 40's and the NATIONS, which were tribes, disliked the borders they were given b/c of the oil or the poppy fields. From Pakistan which hadn't broken off from India yet to Africa, to Clinton's Kosovo where we're still engaged (for Muslims peace keeping) when Yugoslavia broke up, to when Russia went into Afghanistan and S/A funded the Mujahadeen making Bin Laden its general on the ground I say: Let these douchebags fight it out and if it takes Europe with it into flames so be it but stay out of it. We've got enough coal (that's clean) and shale and natural gas that we don't need them.
Too bad my president is in a long line of shill's for these country and their weird governments but he's the most obvious shill of them all by shutting down everything he can on the domestic front so we have to give money to S/A and they can then cause trouble for the rest of the planet.
Perhaps the borders they were given is doing exactly what they were intended to do. Keep the area disorganized so that the pillage of their resources could take place.
"...so we have to give money to S/A..."
without wanting to give offense, imho a somewhat "typical American assumption", this one
Saudis don't need money, they give money, generally speaking. for weapons, for services, for political campaigns, you name it
how much does it cost to have this or that country to go to war? how much do mercs to really fight the important pieces of a war cost?
Is Erdogan's price... his son's business at the borders to Syria and Iraq? Is Biden's price... his son's business in Ukraine?
You really meant if the moccasin fits :)
you got me good, lol.
More likely if the camel shit stain fits
The United States will never go against the Saudis, for it would mean that the Bush presidents and Obama would face treason charges when the Saudis spilled the beans about how these three neocon murderers worked with the NWO to kill Americans at home (9/11 attack) and abroad (the murder of Seal Team Six soldiers on board that sabotaged helicopter in Afghanistan).
Yeah and seal team 6 was murdered because they know they didn't kill bin Laden, and those that knew and could expose the truth (seal team 6) had to be killed to keep the narrative alive
I keep thinking they fear Trump as President because he would expose 911.
That's why they want Bush or Clinton, safety.
Just out of curiousity, what makes you think that Trump would have any information to spill? And why do you think he would be one, in a long line of men, who doesnt fall into line with his masters.
Remember, the man had a TV show.
He is a loose cannon and a New Yorker, Im sure 911 was personal and maybe he would want to find out who really did it.
He was a birther, so he is online and you can't avoid 911 truthers online. He just did an interview with Alex (911 was an inside job) Jones.
Coming from German intelligene, another indication of Germany working against the Israeli-Neocons.
Moccasin: "If the shoe fits..."
If so, then this is the best news of the month. It means that ISIS can be pursued to KSA. Let's be honest: outside of KSA, everyone hates their guts: Jews, Christians and Muslims. They know that they are only renting everyone's civility, that the rental fee is going up, and the time left is winding down. PTL!
Nuke Riyadh, and watch for "Dancing US Frackers".
So, Erdogan is the Saudis' bitch, while he thinks he is being promoted as the head of the new Ottoman Empire. But Turkey's large army can be put to good use by anyone who persuades Erdogan to put it to use;
the Saudis seek to extend their Sunni/Wahabi kingdom to control all the oil and gas in the Middle East;
Israel wants an independent Kurdistan to be a reliable supplier of oil and gas to Israel;
the USA seeks to support the fading PetroDollar arrangement and McCain wants to promote sales by his arms industry sponsors;
Iran wants to extend its influence in Iraq and prevent Qatar from taking all the gas from the Qatar/Iran joint fields and selling it to Europe (the Iranians would much rather drain the field themselves and sell it to Europe);
Israel wants a destabilized Syria and Lebanon so it can control them;
OPEC cannot raise oil prices without Saudi cooperation and the Saudis are so focused in market share and killing US fracking that the Saudis will not cut production levels;
The Sunni Saudis want to keep Iran's oil production and profits low, so the Saudis will be in a better position to bully the Shiite Iranians and thus dismantle/prevent the "Shia Crescent" of Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon across the Middle East to the Mediterranean (which blocks the Saudis' and Qatar's access to Turkey);
Russian and Syrian government air forces have bombed Erdogan's oil routes for oil stolen by ISIS from Syria and Iraq and for oil stolen by the Kurds, so Erdogan has invaded Iraq and set up military bases there to provide and protect oil routes to Turkey via Iraq;
Iraq is protesting Turkey's invasion, and has hinted that it will cancel its security agreement with the USA and will ask Russia to come in to kick Turkey out;
The USA "No Boots On The Ground" strategy is now to send more troops to Iraq to deal with ISIS and Erdogan;
Turkey has oil pipelines and port facilities in Georgia that it controls and which are a hotbed of secret dealings involving the intelligence agencies of numerous nations and numerous shady oil traders from just about everywhere, and this port is allegedly a source of oil exports to Israel from Kurdistan, and allegedly a major source of oil for Edogan's son's oil tanker company;
Erdogan stoutly denies that he or his son have anything to do with smuggling oil out of Iraq, Syria, or Kurdistan;
Erdogan is waging war on the Kurds in Turkey and in Syria, as payback for staging the decades-long independence uprising in Turkey, and against the current desire of Turkey's Kurds to have eastern Turkey secede and join part of northern Iraq as Kurdistan;
Turkey has just agreed with the Kurdistan region of northern Iraq to build a gas pipeline through Turkey to sell gas to Turkey and Europe;
Europe is flooded with migrants and refugees from Syria, Libya, Somalia, and just about everywhere else in North Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia, many of them responding to Angela Merkel's warm-hearted invitation to "the strugging masses who yearn to breathe free";
Merkel has now made a deal with Erdogan to have Erdogan slow the flow of migrants from Turkey to the EU, in return for 3 Billion Euros and a hastened entry to EU membership;
Poland and Hungary are protesting against taking migrants/refugees but are protesting against UK's Cameron's demand to stop easy movement into the UK (where Poles and Hungarians are allegedly taking all the plumbing, electrician, and carpentry jobs away from locals);
Israel maintains that it is fighting ISIS as part of the US-led "Anti-ISIS Coalition" but ISIS is never bombed by Israel jets, Israel provides medical care for injured ISIS fighters, and ISIS never attacks Israel;
Israel has found a large pool of oil under the Golan Heights and cannot exploit it unless Syria's presence next door is eliminated;
France's Hollande and the UK's Cameron have sent their air forces to "bomb ISIS" while maintaining "Assad must go", and their air forces are so bumbling that they just happen to bomb Syria's army installations instead of ISIS;
Russia has established a "No Fly" zone over its area of operations in Syria, and has used its new secret electronic warfare weapons to disable the US and Israeli electronic warfare capabilities on a few occasions. The US, Israel, and NATO military authorities are scared shitless and are trying to figure out how the Russians are doing this. Various attempts are being made to force Russia to use their new weapon so the chances of analyzing it can be increased;
Turkey is threatening to impede Russian ship traffic through the Dardanelles;
Three warships of NATO allies have moved into the Black Sea and tied up in Turkey (to act as bait for Russian torpedoes or as sacrifices for false flag sinkings to be blamed on Russia?);
Turkeys's submarines are shadowing Russian ships and submarines in the Dardanelles and eastern Mediterranean;
Ukraine's neo-Nazi battalions want to go to Syria to fight Russian forces there (or do they want to go to Syria to fight ISIS? I forget.);
Russia recently extended its area of control in Georgia to incude territory that is part of the route of a BP pipeline;
Putin has put Russia's military and nuclear missile forces on high defensive alert, and has instructed them that no threat to Russian forces is to be permitted.
See, its all very simple. Sleep well, everyone.
ps: I would wish everyone a Merry Christmas if it were not politically incorrect and insensitive to do so.
Al Tinfoil, Merry Christmas to you, too. Good list, one addition from me:
Turkey is doing a great humanitarian "good work", with Lebanon and Jordania, hosting and sheltering masses of Syrian refugees. I find this is important to note
and putting this in context with your:
"Europe is flooded with migrants and refugees from Syria, Libya, Somalia, and just about everywhere else in North Africa, the Middle East and Central Asia, many of them responding to Angela Merkel's warm-hearted invitation to "the strugging masses who yearn to breathe free";"
and your
"Merkel has now made a deal with Erdogan to have Erdogan slow the flow of migrants from Turkey to the EU, in return for 3 Billion Euros and a hastened entry to EU membership"
results in: Turkey briefly opened it's borders for refugee exit, where Greece failed to cope with it, and so set a whole series of action in place that resulted in... EU funds to Turkey and a EU promise for membership to Turkey. Oh, and Greece being told by her Schengen-partners to either to close those borders (again, for exit, in Northern Greece, with FRONTEX help to make sure), or risk being kicked out of the Schengen Area for non-compliance with the rules
Thanks for putting together and typing out that nice summary.
A very Merry (& politically incorrect) Christmas to you too.
Saud’s have no allegiance so they use (buy) everyone, West, East, ISIS, all of them, to further their agenda. Everyone is played as they are seduced by the wealth and kingdom dream lifestye, to live with kings . It is too compelling to resist, it works as they bow to it.
I would say more likely a mix of Sauds and Israelis.
Ain't happenin' without the wink and nod from the US, IMHO. If the Saudis are talking to the Russians it's to check the Russian 'gullibility factor', which at this point I'd calculate as extremely low.
DOubt it. The US can't even determine it's own ROE for that region. We can't even dictate our own laws these days, it's all coming down from the UN.
"...it's all coming down from the UN...". Yeah, and Santa Claus, too. Are You ------- Serious?
Give Peace a chance. Move the UN to Yemen. Let them party over there.
Will China join the fray? Maybe try out some of those Silkworms in a live fire exercise. If I were the Saudi's I would prepare for a piping hot cup of Blow Back.
The amount of evidence pointing to a mix of Sauds and Clintonites is overwhelming. Who has been running all the weapons to ISIS and who has been donating obscene amounts of money to the Clinton Foundation? This is very straightforward - almost in-your-face.
The Saudis are israelis. royalty admitted they are jewish.
They wear a different uniform, hence my distinction.
And they haven't married out, hence this
http://vb.tgareed.org/attachments/66440/
No, it is an army founded and funded by America and its allies including Turkey, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UK and France
ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html
USA, Turkey and Israel Act As Air Force for ISIS
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/08/usa-turkey-and-israel-act-as-air-...
The US arming of ISIS
While claiming to be committed to a war against ISIS, Washington and its regional allies have time and again proven themselves to be its principal sources of strength.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/03/pers-j03.html
Poll shows 81 percent of Syrians believe US created ISIS
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-19/81-syrians-believe-us-blame-isi...
Obama's fake war against ISIS:
1 yr, 6,700 airstrikes & $4bn after Obama vowed to ‘destroy’ ISIS, jihadists still on offensive
http://investmentwatchblog.com/1yr-6700-airstrikes-4bn-after-obama-vowed...
Putin Outed ISIS’s G20 Financiers: But Not a Single Western Media Outlet Has Reported It
http://www.4thmedia.org/2015/11/putin-outed-isiss-g20-financiers-but-not...
The Saudis may be helping fund ISIS and others but they may have been fooled themselves. Although there seems to be some groups the Saudis do control directly.
The Saudis think or thought they were truely on the inside but that may not be so.
The Saudis may not have been a core member of the 911 crew. May have only known what they were needed to know. Although would have know the towers were to have planes flown into them. They may not have know the full scope or that the towers were to be rigged to be taken down. I always wondered why members of the Saudi family were in the US at that time had they know the true extent of the operation - this made them vulnerable and it brought attention to them and put ideas into the sheeps heads when the Saudis were the only plane allowed to fly (and they fly home).
The articles being floated around out there show a possible push to turn the Saudis into bad guys and perhaps a mastermind of 911, destruction in the ME and terrorist attacks. While at the same time bringing Turkey up to the front to be the new bff of the west. Although Muslem/Islamic the Turks come off as very western and more acceptable to the sheep. The Turks have a more powerful military to be used to take territory and control the strait.
The Saudis who were over here played dumb and got a free ride home for it.
Muslim Brotherhood = Head of the Snake.
It has been said that the Saudis have funded them for years so that the MB stays busy outside of the kingdom.
According to the Kurd I quoted a few weeks back a lot of what you posted matches up. But IMHO I believe his abbreviated run down of everyone involved and how it works from when ISIS was created is more accurate.
Most people never look at history. So I'm not surprised most people don't realize historically what is going on and how this is all related to what is going on now and why. It makes it much easier to figure out some of the details or verify some of what is going on and possibly confirm why. It is hard if not impossible at times to figure out what's really going on when everyone gets inundated with too much information and most of it is lies, misdirection or disinformation anyway. Truth is a commodity that has been decreasing in value in this screwed up world. And those that seek it or speak will rarely receive an adequate return on their investment.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-25/meet-man-who-funds-isis-bilal-e...
FWIW An interview with a US member of ISIS, confirms Turkey supplies ISIS with weapons, giving details of who was involved, when and where the transactions took place.
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/217910/isis_member_confesses_tur...
It's pretty obvious that the Saudis have a big hand in this. And Qatar has openly said that they will support the jihadists.
But look 'Tyler' ... this does not require deep conspiracy theories. The issue for the Saudis is NOT the CIA. The CIA might have some sort of involvement, but the Saudis have much stronger motivations in their own backyard. The issue is Iran. If the Iranians unite with Iraq, this will create a new Shiite Superpower that is potentially more powerful than Saudi Arabia. Furthermore, the new Shiite Superpower is NOT running out of oil, but it's likely that the Saudi's are past their peak output. Both Riyadh and Washington DC are terrified by this prospect. So if you want a motive for complicated politics - there it is.
I have no idea what will happen in Syria. But honestly, every day the country looks more like the War Of The Nations. The crisis is growing - and it won't stop because none of the major players will back down. Seriously, the Syria crisis is looking almost Biblical in proportions.
What scares me more ... is the proliferation of ISIS across North Africa. There is virtually nothing stopping ISIS from spreading like a malignant cancer across all of North Africa ... they are growing at an alarming rate. I've got no idea how ISIS will be stopped on that Continent.
Whoever set ISIS in motion ... started something worse than the bubonic plague. Heaven help their souls.
Live Leak has Israeli commandos going in to rescue jihadis on the border with Syria to take them to hospitals.
The good news is the Saudis and UAE are getting their asses kicked in Yemen by the Houthi. In the past few days, a Britsh and Aussie merc fighting for the House of Fraud (crypto zio Saudis).
The Saudis are a bunch of pussies. They won't even fight in Yemen themselves, sending in instead lower caste tribesmen (yes, in addition to all the other crimes of the House of Saud, they perpetuate a caste system in which "noble" tribes use lessor tribes as slaves and cannon fodder. Needless to say, slaves make poorly motivated soldiers), and foriegn mercenaries. (BTW, what do Colombians know about fightng in the desert?)
OTOH, the Yemeni tribesmen are all somewhat egalitarian. The Yemeni culture is poor and has a longstanding freeholder society, not a caste system. So the Yemenis are figthting truly for freedom. They're getting good weaponry from Iran, bully for them, but more importanty, they fight, and fight hard. The pussified Saudis can't or won't fight. They content tthemselves with bombing Yemen from the air, and to losing territory on the ground, and ships at sea.
The Houthis will take Riyadh, mark my words, unless the U-Cess makes a move to support the House of Saud.
That's an insult to pussies everywhere, and I won't stand for it! ;)
Don't forget to mention the Israeli fighter pilots flying Saudi jets and bombing Yemeni freedom fighters to set up a a bridge to Somali oil.
"yes, in addition to all the other crimes of the House of Saud, they perpetuate a caste system in which "noble" tribes use lessor tribes as slaves and cannon fodder"
This could easily be said of any western politician and the way they distance themselves from the common man.
If ISIS threatened Israel, then it would end. ISIS is good for Israel, and its Yinon Plan.
The whole world is drawn into war for the Rothschild led City of London's pet fiefdom, Israhell, a racist fascist thing.
Hey...The USA fucked up. That is the final analysis. They got in bed with KSA; agreed to work together with KSA in order to build/fund/train a group of militants to overthrow Assad. ISIS is born. Introduce Internet recruiting and propaganda and Voila!, the monster is on the loose. USA is powerless to reel in the cult and KSA refuses to reel in the cult.
Where do you think the KSA cash burn through is going? Those guys are funding one hell of a war.
USA pigeon-holed themselves and have only the mirror to blame. After the backstabbing the USA is about to supply KSA, I doubt if a barrel of oil will rise above fifty bucks for many years.
The entire situation is a clusterfuck beyond comprehension.
The USA fucked up by electing Obama, who appointed Clinton, who took the money from the Sauds to get this show produced.
And our deep state Israeli-Neocons had nothing to do with it? Entirely Clinton and Obama? The Clinton who is strongly supported by many of these actors? The Obama whose policies are extensions of Bushes, where not worse?
You can't support any of those assertions without picking only the choicest of cherries.
Chaos keeps the Israeli-Neocons necks out of nooses. "Create a new reality". IF they cycle that fast enough, nobody puts them on trial.
Reality they are apparently trying for here at home is a rebellion, gun control or ??, anything will do.
But I think they are losing in reality. Opposition is rising, as this report shows, IMHO.
Agreed
More and more of my friends aren't buying the MSM propaganda anymore. Some of these same people thought I was nuts just a few months back. The Washington Post is frantically writing articles decrying the Alternative Media as being unhinged. The NYT is demanding gun confiscation.
A quick reread of Mary Shelly's Frankenstein reminds us how quickly man made monsters can get out of their creator's control and comense their own agenda.
I wrote a note to Rand Paul telling him to bring up 9/11 as a false flag operation in the debate this week.
He has nothing to lose, he will never be annoited from Jerusalem, and nobody can achieve the Presidency from inside the major parties without that.
Note that Bernie doesn't touch foreign policy with any specificity.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/backstory-bernie-sanders-and-p...
Well Obama and Hillary cleared out Libya for them.
Don't worry, Gaddafi will stop- oh wait, we got rid of him.
*snaps fingers* damn. There goes that plan.
visualize whishful thiking interuptis! i hear ya past is future.
What we've got over there is a Dark Ages Game of Thrones. Good luck with that.
Over there?
Only if you call the one here an electronic-era Age of Thrones. Politics is the same, tools a bit different.
PrimalScream, talk of Iran as a potential Shi'ite superpower misses the point of Khomeini's revolution. Iran is a threat because of its example as an Islamic, not specifically Shi'ite, state with democratic elections. That is what terrifies the princely order. To talk in this context of Sunni-Shi'ite rivalry is to play the game of the Anglo-Zionist Empire. Khomeini specifically said that no Shi'a should hesitate to say his namaz behind a Sunni Imam.
No. Not real elections. The Mullahs would be gone the day after a free election in Iran.
No Muslim state has imposed a theocracy on itself except in a replacement of a dictator of some kind.
Didn't our beloved and heroic president bow to the king of Saudi Arabia, or am I mistaken?
Nope that was him and he did it twice ;-)
And a sword dance too, if I recall, very racy.
He has always run with "the in" crowd, a very popular thing, till it's not ;-)
Go online, and see the idiot younger Bush kiss the cheek.
Didn't they also walk together in a garden holding hands?
Fag. (And not in the homophobic way, but in the back in the day it meant "you are a bitch" way)
It appears the the U.S. oligarchs have unleashed the dogs of war. I'm sure they have a plan when the dust settles to call them back into the kennel right?...right? ..........crickets......
I wouldn't doubt if they were all Saudi radicals who, for good reason, the Saudi royal family wanted out of the kingdom. Better they stir it up somewhere else, so to speak. If they happen to all die, oh well. I could care a less what those animals are doing to each other over there, just keep them out of our country. They should have been sent back to their home countries after 9/11. Their is no decisive leadership, so we are still dealing with this same stupid problem. They didn't hesitate printing trillions to save the banks, but offend the muslims, no way.
the neocons or conservatives in america have complete ownership of the entire country today. they have no use for the government or state.
since nixon, ford [we must move on for the countries good pos!], carter[pathetic], REAGAN [government is the problem], bush sr., clinton [pathetic], bush jr.[the fucking worst reaganite in american history, period!], and this guy in office now is just a cameleon like all the dem's since carter, clinton.
note: nixon/ford 8 yrs.
carter/ 4yrs [gets ussa into afghanistan]
reagan/ bush 12 yrs
*(that's 20 yrs out of a total 24 yrs folks)... for the GOD`fearing[?] conservative, whom hate the little peoples government... and, the constitution. if only they could line-up all the liberals as they did to jews in germany and cleanse their ideologies in room 101.
next up: clinton 8 yrs. [sad, sad, hillary sad example of its your turn]
the grand finale: baby bush/ 8 yrs [would take reagans thesis of, no-government is the best government, which leaves/ leads `2' what? guess]
lastly, the great pretender of hopey and changling
that voted absent on most of his one official yr. as a us senator. but, hey who gives a fuck,... chicago always votes in a black senator being the land of lincoln. remember the political boss in illinois is rahm`jet and he'll make sure the jewish cabal goes hillary.
but just in case trump gets in,... beware we are totally fucked! so that's american's choice persribed by the corporist oligarchy that ownes every fucking politican in the fuck up country beyond redemption!!!
jmo
the zionist have listening post in azerbaijan and 'state-of-the-art' drones, and advanced as they get missle defense systems. it was an officer in the jewish military that created the original drone system, later retiring from the israel military and becoming a dual citizen in ussa.
they have listening`post all over india in the kashmir, on the bangledesh border, and in delhi, ahmadabd, on the entire perimeter with india's RAW`intel working hand and hand with mossad. israel sells their awacs and advanced weapon systems [missiles; warning systems, etc., etc].
so if you triangulate from the epicenter of israel on the west bank to azerbaijan to india you get pretty much all the data. and you can bet your bottom dollar israel is helping isis via caspian sea/ azerbaijan route
I will share my take on the situation:
If the goal is to get rid of Assad and replace him with a Sunni regime, then the US/Saudi approach is obvious and correct.
From a US perspective, watching Putin spend his resources backing Assad is a winning strategy. Putin is there to prop up Assad's regime, after all, this is the last client state of the former USSR in the Middle East. Putin is simply putting his head into a meat grinder as Assad is now backed in a corner. A minority buried in an insurgency. Throw in that Iran is also a major player on the ground against ISIS, it natural that the US sit back while all of its adversaries beat up each other.
The goal is to redraw Sunni/Shia boundaries along natural lines: South Iraq goes Shia and Syria goes Sunni and the Kurds get a slice in the North. This addresses serious secular mismatches between the ruling minorities and majority masses.
And you can be damn sure that it will not be ISIS setting up shop in Damascus when Assad is gone; they will be stomped at the appropriate time and shut out of the Peace Talks when Assad throws in the towel. No matter what their percieved role is. Putin will get some concessions. Given that the ISIS military wing is rooted in the old Iraqi Republican Guard, I would not be surprised if the "jihadi" component of ISIS was neuterd in a coup carried out by Saddams secular elite.
A wild card is what happens after al-Sistani cashes in his chips, he is 85 after all. If he outlasts Assad, then I think there is a chance for a measure of peace.
Good insight. Thanks for that.
This may be the final play of the dying Empire. When all else fails, try to preserve the petrodollar by brute force – and said force of course needs to be prefaced by a substantial bit of Saudi-bashing, such as this propaganda article, to gain a more publicly palatable casus belli. (Not that the Saudis, these charming fellows, are particularly difficult to bash...)
However, this is an obvious play. Anyone, certainly including the Saudis, could see it from miles off. Yet even so, the Saudis have dared make their move, pulling the plug on the petrodollar with their new oil price policy. Why? How do they dare? Probably only because they have good reason to think that a US invasion will never happen. Have they perhaps gotten security guarantees from the Russians and the Chinese?
Fuck when will the earth stop barfing out oil already? Then finally we can figure out how to make our cars run on pine sap or the slime at the bottom of my compost bin or any other fucking thing already.
It's abiotic. The solar system is lousy with hydrocarbons. If we don't kill ourselves off with guns, we'll choke ourselves to death.
Someone needs to ask Obama whether Turkey has been setting up training camps for these ISIS fighters.
And while they are at it, also ask Obama about Yasin al-Qadi from Saudi Arabia and whether he has been financing it.
He's the guy who supposedly cares so much about "keeping us safe", so I would assume he would have already gotten to the bottom of these issues.
There's always an asshat in the Whitehouse stupid or cunning enough to do "their bidding" then grab his (not her, god help us) big, fat, speaking fees when finished.
Nuke Saudi!
Trump 2016
Correct - except there is no disguise.
this is another reason why its important to work on new forms of energy,
Fluxite.com is on the right path
Send these CLOWNS, an early X-mas present, Santa Putin.
Ho, Ho, Ho... from Russia, with love
The Brrrrritish Empire used Wahhabists in the Middle East awhile ago to bring Saudi Arabia into existence as a state, in a form that would please the aristos in Britain. So the pattern of using religious nuts to destabilize and recrystalize factions in the Middle East is not new.
ISIS is simply that sort of policy continued. Except this time it is being run by complete idiots from the US Deep State who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. It's amateur hour in the US Establishment, to the amusement of many and horror of the rest.
That's why we are facing an internal crisis this time. It's not going to be World War II, and it might not even be like the US Civil War. It could be a collapse of the entire establishment, and a new founding.
"Its not going to be World War II".
Did any one of the WWI players want or expect WWI? To me, history seems like a very long series of bad decisions by ruling elites mislead by groupthink, isolation from their people's realities and believing their own propaganda.
Trump basically giving Saudi "Prince" the finger on Twitter...love it! If he takes office probably get the Kennedy treatment but will cause a bunch of fuck ups in the ways of the dark state.
If I could I'd vote Trump for president, Hilary for prison.
open letter to trump. assasantionn inssurance- ROBERT DAVID STEELE FOR VEEP!
Saudis don't have an "army" they have mercs, the difference is the mercs only stay as long as they get paid.
the saudis are in it. the turks are in it. the israelis are in it. the americns are in it. the french are in it. the brits are in it. the germans are in it. the russians are in it the iranians are in it. hezbollah are in it. the iraqis are in it. the kurds are in it. china is is in there somewhere and syria is in it. there needs to be some reason to include the pacific islands so we can call this a legitimate ww3.
The CIA will make sure that there is always an ISIS so everybody can be in it, especially us.
"If we strip away the phony religious cover, what emerges is a Saudi move to grab some of the world’s largest oil reserves, those of the Sunni parts of Iraq, and of Syria, using the criminal Turkish regime in the role of thug to do the rough work,"
And Gas. Western Iraq is full of gas the saudis need for their economy.
...and if the Rooskies can get into bed with Iran and Iraq, bye bye gas pipelines through Syria.
His name is Alwaleed Bin Talal. He is the richest of the Saudi Princes. He then whines about Trump. He calls him a disgrace to Republicans. Then he goes on to call him a disgrace to America…
Standard Disclaimer: Fuck the Saudis...
open letter to trump. assasantionn inssurance- ROBERT DAVID STEELE FOR VEEP!
not a duplicate . actually found another spot close by to say the same thing.