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If Washington Were Serious About Defeating Terrorism, It Would Have An Entirely Different Playbook

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Excerpted from Stephen Walt's "The Unbearable Lightness of America’s War Against the Islamic State" originally published in FP

If Washington were really serious about defeating terrorism, it would have an entirely different playbook.

In the classic World War II novel The Caine Mutiny, author Herman Wouk quoted an “ancient adage” about the typical bureaucratic response to a crisis:

“When in danger or in doubt, Run in circles, scream and shout.”

That couplet summarizes the prevailing U.S. response to global terrorism perfectly. All one has to do is read the panicky, narrow-minded, and irresponsible ravings of the current GOP presidential aspirants, as well as look at the latest poll numbers, and it’s clear that a good portion of the U.S. electorate is prepared to follow them off the deep end.

Yet the unhinged nature of the current discourse on terrorism also reveals how profoundly unserious U.S. counterterrorism efforts really are. To say this sounds odd, given the hundreds of billions of dollars that have been thrown at the problem, and the tens of thousands of lives (both American and foreign) that have been lost waging the “global war on terror” (or if you prefer, the “campaign against violent extremism”), is an understatement. It sounds even odder when one considers the vast army of people who are now employed to protect us from terrorism, not to mention the countries we’ve invaded, the drone strikes and targeted assassinations we’ve performed, and the mountains of metadata we’ve collected. Surely all this effort shows that Washington is deeply engaged in the challenge of thwarting al Qaeda, the Islamic State, and other violent radicals.

If only. For starters, consider what we have to show for all this effort and expense. We now have a vast counterterrorism industry, much bigger intelligence budgets, and more energetic government surveillance, but the basic counterterrorist playbook has evolved little over the past 20 years. In particular, our national security establishment is still convinced that the main way to defeat extremist groups is U.S. military intervention, despite the nagging suspicion that it just creates more ungoverned spaces and makes it easier for groups like the Islamic State to recruit new members. The New York Times reported this week that the Pentagon is now seeking a new set of military bases in or around the Arab and Islamic world so that it can prosecute the military campaign against the Islamic State et al. more effectively.

Excuse me, but isn’t that exactly what we’ve been doing since the 1990s and with greater energy and effort over time? Yet there are more al Qaeda affiliates now than there were back in 2001, and organizations like the Islamic State didn’t even exist back then. Is it possible that our entire approach here has been ill-conceived and has been making the problem worse instead of better? And what would a more serious approach to terrorism look like?

If the United States were truly serious about terrorism, it would start by gauging the level of threat properly and communicating that appraisal to the American people.

As numerous scholarly studies have shown, the actual risk of terrorism to the average American is remarkably low. In their new book Chasing Ghosts, John Mueller and Mark Stewart estimate the odds that an American will be killed by a terrorist are about one in 4 million each year. Compared with more prosaic dangers that we accept on a daily basis, this level of risk is absurdly small. Yet instead of using logic and evidence to reassure the American people, leaders from both parties have encouraged, since 9/11, the irrational fear of terrorism to drive a host of counterproductive policies. Even President Barack Obama, who seems to have a more measured view than many of his counterparts, did a rather limp job of reassuring the public in his Oval Office speech last Sunday.

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If the United States were truly serious about terrorism, we would also have a more honest and open discussion about our own role in generating it.

Our reluctance to consider whether certain aspects of U.S. foreign and defense policy inspire anti-American extremism began as early as the 9/11 Commission. As the late Ernest May, a distinguished historian who worked with the commission, later acknowledged:

“[T]he report skirts the question of whether American policies and actions fed the anger that manifested itself on September 11…. [it] is weak in laying out evidence for the alternative argument that the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and the Capitol might not have been targeted absent America’s identification with Israel, support for regimes such as those in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Pakistan, and insensitivity to Muslims’ feelings about their holy places. The commissioners believed that American foreign policy was too controversial to be discussed except in recommendations written in the future tense. Here we compromised our commitment to set forth the full story.”

Wow.

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If the United States were truly serious about terrorism, we would now be having a frank discussion about the role of the media.

I’m positive organizations like Fox News and CNN do not intend to help al Qaeda or the Islamic State, but that is in fact precisely what they are doing. Whenever a terrorist incident occurs, TV and radio outlets immediately offer up a frenzy of overheated reportage, most of it intended to keep people scared and their eyeballs glued to the screen or their ears glued to the radio. (It’s the nature of modern media; the Weather Channel does the same thing with every major storm.) Yet this Pavlovian response is precisely what groups like the Islamic State are hoping for: It gives them more free publicity; convinces people who are in little to no danger that they should be really, really scared; and makes a comparatively weak movement like the Islamic State seem like a vast multi-headed hydra that is penetrating our society and threatening every one of us. Frankly, the media couldn’t be doing more to help these movements if they were being paid by them directly.

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If the United States were truly serious about terrorism, we’d also see more creative efforts to discredit, marginalize, spoof, and embarrass the groups we oppose.

The Islamic State has a pretty sophisticated social media operation, designed to convince recruits that they are joining a movement that is exciting, visionary, dedicated, and that will change the world. There are many ways to combat this message, but let’s not leave out the role of humor and ridicule.  One of the best ways to discredit extremist movements is to make them look ridiculous, so that joining or backing them is seen as stupid, uncool, or embarrassing. Instead of constantly portraying the Islamic State and its ilk as cruel, cunning, fanatical, dedicated, dangerous, etc., we should spend at least as much time depicting them as ignorant, backward, inept, misguided, and absurd.

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If the United States were truly serious about terrorism, you’d see a more hardnosed approach to the various American “allies” who are part of the problem rather than being part of the solution.

U.S. officials would be calling out Turkey publicly for its actions against the Kurdish forces battling the Islamic State, for the porosity of its border with Islamic State-controlled territory, and for its blind eye toward smuggling and other actions that are keeping the militant group in business. Instead of going overboard to reassure Saudi Arabia in the wake of the deal with Iran, we’d be having some unpleasant conversations about the Saudi role in promoting Wahhabism and its connection to extremist movements like the Islamic State. And, by the way, putting that issue at the top of the agenda is not an unfriendly act, given that al Qaeda and the Islamic State are themselves potential threats to the House of Saud. We would also make it clear to the Israeli government that its treatment of the Palestinians is a national security issue for us, and we would make our “special relationship” conditional on the creation of Palestinian state and not just the usual empty promises (I know, I’m dreaming here, but our failure to take this obvious step just shows how unserious our policy still is).

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Read the full article at FP

 

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Sun, 12/13/2015 - 17:48 | 6918842 trader1
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b/c it's all about oil, guns, money, and POWER

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 17:56 | 6918870 y3maxx
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Washington has 0 zero credibility today,

and neither his colour or gayness will save Obama either.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 17:58 | 6918894 Looney
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Here comes the “Unconstitutional Scholar” again… ;-)

Looney

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:29 | 6919041 highandwired
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Canada is bringing in an army on MILITARY planes!  Tyler please cover the Invasion of Canada!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx2haIRJHeY

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:45 | 6919121 Stuck on Zero
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There's no cognitive dissonance here. Washington's definition of "terrorist" is different than the Author's.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 19:52 | 6919328 BoNeSxxx
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#7: if the US were really serious about stopping terrorism, they would wrap every captured jihadist (dead or alive) in a giant pig carcass and bury him in it... On live television. That would stop the bullshit tomorrow. War is war bitches.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:26 | 6919475 ali_baba
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Who gives a fuck. We LOVE to die. Although, i wouldnt waste pig carcasses. Pigs never hurt anyone, but you evil fuckers cant help yourselves can you?

Act as tough as you want, the jews have you in a tough spot. They own every country of yours, theyre even whiter than you guys now. Theyve just been taking your best women and jewizing them to fuck. On top of that, theyve 'multiculturalized' you whilst keeping Israel nice and pure.

We will all go down in a final jihad frenzy, cause tbh, Im ready to meet my satanic God in hell. From the relative comfort ill be in, ill watch you slave for the shvitsing snakes.
When were gone, they will have the éntire middle-east oil and gas, a new currency and a massive army with better technology than you. Then your government will work you hard to pay back the trillions in debt you owe them.
Fuck that, the future is bleak. I might blow myself up tomorrow. 72 big nose bitches is better than this shit.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:37 | 6919504 BoNeSxxx
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What is it they say? The enemy of my enemy is my friend?

I like you Ali Baba.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:58 | 6919590 Manthong
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If we were serious about defeating terrorism we would tell civilians to not be where ISIL is and then treat ISIL strongholds like we treated Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 21:11 | 6919628 Theosebes Goodfellow
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~"If the United States were truly serious about terrorism, you’d see a more hardnosed approach to the various American “allies” who are part of the problem rather than being part of the solution."~

If the United States were truly serious about terrorism, we'd become energy independent and stop supplying Muslims with US Dollars. That's how you "defund" terrorism. Silly fucks.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 21:42 | 6919761 Handful of Dust
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<< #7: if the US were really serious about stopping terrorism ...>>> they would put a cap on the Saudi royalty.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 07:12 | 6920747 not dead yet
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Handful of dust. If the US were really serious about stopping terrorism one part of the solution would be to bust a cap in every Saudi royals head. Fixed it for ya.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 07:09 | 6920744 not dead yet
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Terrorists are not born that way but created. It hasn't been about oil for consumption for a long time but about control of the oil. Even if the US never imported another barrel of oil they would still be in the ME. If you bothered to educate youself on US involvement in the ME over the last 50 years and the millions of deaths they brought about through bombs, drones, and sanctions it would be obvious to you why terrorism is a growth industry. Or do you think those people enjoy burying their family members after a drone strike or daily walking through the rubble of their once beautiful city because the US bombed the snot out of you, or invaded, or sponsored terrorists to ruin your country like the current fiasco in Syria. It's all about power and oil is one of many tools used to get more power.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 21:18 | 6919676 ali_baba
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Yeah but you're not the enemy of my enemy. You work for my enemy. Therefore you are the enemy. Why do i have to live in your country? Cause you guys bomb the shit out of mine. The Israelis didnt do it. They just told you to so that they can move in. Just like they told you to kill Jesus. You fuckers are the executioner. But its ok, my death cult teaches me to welcome death. I think it takes a brave person to walk into certain death just to prove a point. Not for money.
You fucks are welcome to ALL this jew infested shit. Mohammed was the spawn of the devil. You think theres virgins in hell? No way man, there will be 72 devilish sluts waiting for me.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 21:14 | 6919643 Theosebes Goodfellow
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~"Canada is bringing in an army on MILITARY planes!"~

See? This is what happens when you elect liberals. Canada, oh Canada, you are sooooo fucked. It looks like the USA will have to build two walls now.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 21:21 | 6919688 ali_baba
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Liberals = jews. Theyre liberal in your country but nazis in their own" take a fucking guess why.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:01 | 6918904 Bilderberg Member
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Yes, its obviously clear that the agenda is to EXPLOIT narratives (i.e. climate change helps ISIS) no matter how ridiculous and desperate then actually taking REAL AND PRODUCTIVE actions to SOLVE them.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:24 | 6919024 Bad Attitude
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BM, you seem to be assuming that the regime actually wants to SOLVE the islamic terrorism problem. Just looking at their actions, the regime seems to actually be interested in encouraging and growing islamic terrorism.

Forward (over the cliff)!

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:39 | 6919087 Dixie Rect
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If we really wanted to show the terrorists we were serious, we'd fart in their general direction.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:24 | 6919026 Demdere
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No mention of 9/11, the False Flag by Israeli-Neocons in the US gov and intelligence services around the world, is possible for anyone in the Status Quo.

So he can't see that the results are as intended, chaos keeps our leaders heads on their shoulders.

If peace is allowed, they all hang or get chopped.  The Saudis will have some executioners looking for work, I think.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:46 | 6919127 ThroxxOfVron
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"All one has to do is read the panicky, narrow-minded, and irresponsible ravings of the current GOP presidential aspirants, as well as look at the latest poll numbers, and it’s clear that a good portion of the U.S. electorate is prepared to follow them off the deep end. "

 

FUCK YOU & YOUR RED/BLUE TEAM BULLSHIT.

NEITHER THE DEMOCRATS OR THE REPUBLICANS GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANYTHING BUT ENRICHING THEMSELVES.

IN STREET PARLANCE: BOTH LYING CORRUPT PARTIES SUCK BALLS.

END THE OPPRESSION: END THE TWO PARTY DUOPOLY.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 19:01 | 6919188 HardAssets
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Yep, this author twerp obviously didnt get the memo.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 17:52 | 6918865 stant
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.GOV vs terrorism is like the firemen who start fires on abandoned house so they can go put them out to justify thier existence and $

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 17:55 | 6918867 y3maxx
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Obama will go down in as the biggest lying President in American history.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 17:58 | 6918893 arbwhore
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That would imply future presidents are better. The track record is not that good.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 01:25 | 6920467 Money Boo Boo
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this also presumes Cheney has spoken the truth once in his life?

 

 

....and yes Cheney was your real president, if not by title certainly by control

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:57 | 6921642 XitSam
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Or it could imply that there are no more presidents.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:03 | 6918914 algol_dog
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Really? He's worse than any of the rest. How do you guys not get it by now. There's no difference in any canidate or party. How hard is that to figure out by now?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 07:28 | 6920751 not dead yet
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Obama has done one helluva job destroying the ME and eastern Europe with his policies ensuring terrorism will be in uber growth mode for some time while bringing us near the brink of world war. If we had elected McCain odds are we would all be turned into smoking irradiated ash by now. Compared to McCain Obama is devil lite. Now we have groups of repubs clammoring for huge increases in the War Deparment budget so the US can fight 2 MAJOR wars at one time. Afghanistan and Iraq are not major wars so one wonders what those insane repubs have in mind. Most likely getting us all killed quickly instead slow and agonizing like Obama.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:12 | 6918960 Dinero D. Profit
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Bush lied about 9/11 and about WMD's, yellow cake, etc.  Bush lies make Barrys' look like a piker.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:15 | 6918977 Dinero D. Profit
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What this nation desparately needs in a 3rd Party, the Truth Party with a 9/11 focus.  

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:31 | 6919053 Demdere
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Everyone call/write Ron Paul and Jesse Ventura.  They are the last mostly-honest politicians in America.

Paul has no chance at the Presidency in the GOP, you have to be annointed from Jerusalem.  Ventura is going for the Libertarian nomination. Libs' can't win unless they can stop the propaganda, or at least put big holes in the story.  The Muslim-hatred theme is doing very well, bucking it directly won't work.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 19:00 | 6919111 Dick Buttkiss
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What political party could represent a government, much less defend its existence, when said government is obviously guilty of monstrous crimes against humanity that are hardly limited to the 9/11 atrocity?

"America" is dead. Walk away.

I am, as my avatar indicates.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 00:38 | 6920376 Demdere
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The government is dying, it's Constitution is not dead, as it was never a living document.

America is us, what we make it or allow those treasonous criminals to make it.

No, I won't walk away from doing my damndest to improve my son's future.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:58 | 6921297 Dick Buttkiss
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I put "America" in quotes for a reason, i.e., it — the idea — is a distant memory. We, however, are not, the only question being how many of us there are. Not many, I fear, which only makes the task harder. 

But so be it.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:47 | 6919133 lakecity55
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Well, he does go down...

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 17:55 | 6918873 TeamDepends
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If Washington were serious about defeating terrorism, they would be talking about MANDATORY GUN OWNERSHIP for citizens.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:17 | 6918991 El Vaquero
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Ownership, by itself, means nothing when it comes to combatting whatever violent crime you want to bring up.  "...the right of The People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."  That pistol does you no good if you are getting attacked while you are out and about and it is sitting on your night stand.  If you want the benefits of an armed society, people must regularly bear their arms.  

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 17:55 | 6918875 Sanity Bear
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The only reason the War on Terror exists is as a vehicle to scare you and pass laws you would never in a million years permit otherwise.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 17:56 | 6918881 Reaper
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Terrorism is a tool to control the sheeple.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 17:57 | 6918884 arbwhore
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War on Terrorism is as effective as the War on Drugs or the War on Poverty. They have all provided much money and power to those conducting said "wars".

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:53 | 6919571 ThisIsBob
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Jobs programs.  Juicy ones.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 17:57 | 6918890 Duc888
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Washington = terrorism.  So the playbook is working just fine.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 17:59 | 6918898 Gold N Glocks
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If DC was serious about defeating terrorism, the Marines and Secret Service would start at the White House.

 

They don't so they aren't.

 

Next.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:46 | 6919123 lakecity55
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Arrest The Banksters!

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 17:59 | 6918900 max2205
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Policy is for the less informed 

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:11 | 6918917 silverer
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This article is accurate and makes sense.  All I can say is you get what you vote for.  US sheeple voters hired a golfer to deal with this issue.  Twice.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 07:47 | 6920765 not dead yet
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It makes no difference who you vote for. The party is in control. If you're a newbie you vote the party line or you will never be allowed to do anything and the party will work to get another body in your place. If you have seniority and a position they bust you down to nothing and support a candidate to get you unelected if you continually vote wrong. Murkowski of Alaska was the latest to feel the wrath of the party and was defeated in the primary by a tea bagger supported by the party. She won the election as a write in. The party busted her down to a nothing even though she had plenty of seniority. As far as Obama look at the clowns he ran against. He was the lesser of two evils or so it seemed to many people. The republicans again are fielding another bunch of clueless clowns for president. Liberals who live in the world of unreality think Obama is doing a great job.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:07 | 6918934 breadonwaters
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Lets face it.  The gov is bought, the regulators are bought, the police are bought, the military are bought ......exactly how did we think this could turn out any other way than a financial collapse, and eternal war?

It scares me how ready we all are for the final collapse:  "Bring it on!" i hear....but what will rise out of the ashes of our bonfire? 

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:41 | 6919103 Beowulf55
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.....IF THEY ARE "BOUGHT"..............then quit paying them.  April 15 is a real good time to stop paying them.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:12 | 6918953 Dodgy Geezer
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If Washington Were Serious About Defeating Terrorism, It Would Have An Entirely Different Playbook

 

The key thing that Washington, and the military of the Western World, are serious about doing is keeping their jobs.

 

They had a good thing going with an eternal 'Cold War' back in the 1960s-1990s.  They need another eternal war to take its place. Terrorism will do until something better comes along...

 

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:15 | 6918979 Son of Captain Nemo
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From an ex-government wonk speaking candidly to the drugged out pill head(S) of the U.S. Armed Forces that will be annihilated "finally" for their war crimes if they don't resist their chimp-in-chief giving them the orders to their own funeral!

 

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:17 | 6918992 Sudden Debt
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It's just clear that to defeat ISIS, America should make cavity searches mandatory at all US airports.

 

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:20 | 6919009 BetaGap
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I'm in deep fear that there is no peaceful way out of what we are in.

 

And that there are players that know the game better than we do. Anyone read what CN said about the NATO? There is so much deep insight in those few sentences, not saying anything directly, but questioning the whole thing in a very polite way.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:25 | 6919029 Dr. Bonzo
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This article's title promises much then delivers nothing. Closest author dares to tread to the US-terror nexus is quoting another author who suggests our policies feed their anger.

Next time, stop pulling your punches. There's ample open source material available for any serious researcher to show that elements of the US government through the DIA and CIA and Special Operations community work, train and fund extremist jihadis. Operation Cyclone, 1979. Blah blah blah blah.

Do your fucking research next time you want to take a big bad swing at the US' role in defeating terrorism.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:38 | 6919085 g'kar
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"If Washington Were Serious About Defeating Terrorism, It Would Have Jailed Obola and Jarret"....ahhh, much better

 

 

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 18:41 | 6919101 lakecity55
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For one thing, its proxies would not be terrizing Ukraine.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 19:22 | 6919232 CHoward
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THIS government doesn't have a strategy - they go from one crises to the next.  They're constantly being reactive.  Pathetic. 

 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 00:42 | 6920381 Demdere
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Your assumption that the results, while never doing more than making things worse at great expense, are not intended, is exceptionally naive for a ZH comment.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 19:33 | 6919286 Orc from Mordor
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Why should Washington defeat what it created and spent so much money on? 

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:17 | 6919306 thisguyoverhere
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This article contains several false (in my opinon) premises. 

 

1. The idea that the government has an interest in protecting citizens.

It does not.

http://gunssavelives.net/blog/supreme-court-ruling-police-have-no-duty-to-protect-the-general-public/

If the basic police force is not obligated to protect you from yourself or others, how much more so is the millitary not obligated?

2. The idea that people in media simply have no idea what the consequences of their actions, individual or combined , are.

naivete may be cast aside

https://www.popularresistance.org/operation-mockingbird-cia-media-control-program/ 

In closing I would say that ultimate power simply WILL.  Theirs is an agenda spelled out in their foundations papers and numerous published books, even on monuments in BFE Georgia  (see Georgia guidestones).  The power elite are at war with you dear reader.

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 19:42 | 6919315 Jack Burton
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Terrorism is big business, big profits, economic growth industry.

Terrorism give the excuse to impose a police state on honest Americans.

Terrorism allows the US military to set up bases, invade, bomb, and generally move into any nation on Earth with the excuse "fighting terror".

Terror dumbs down Americans and gets them to vote for Corporate candidates under the guise of anti terror candidates.

Terror allows a giant ramp up in military spending, and provided 100,000's of Pentagon jobs for offices of dubious use.

In short, America's ruling elite love Terror, if terror did not exist, they would have to invent it!

Sun, 12/13/2015 - 21:09 | 6919620 Freddie
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Semi OT:

Seems like things are not going very well for Saudi mercenaries in Yemen.

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/12/open-thread-2015-47.html#comments

http://failedevolution.blogspot.gr/2015/12/mexican-colombian-blackwater....

A Mexican mercenary commander and an Argentine soldier of fortune working for a U.S. military firm Blackwater in Yemen died in fierce combats in the southeastern Yemeni city Taiz, local media reported Thursday.
Recently, UAE deployed about 450 Colombian mercenaries to Yemen to fight with the Saudi-led coalition that is attempting to put under control the Houthis.

 

US former general and douchebag McCrystal is working for Dubai in the merc business.

 

Putin needs to send some Kalibr M's to the UAE via airmail.


http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2012/12/23/135817/65

Building the Land Forces" project in the United Arab Emirates

    Knowledge International, LLC is currently recruiting 125 retired or separated US Army Veterans for a 6-20 month "Building the Land Forces" project
    in the United Arab Emirates. Leading the project is a recently retired US Army Lieutenant General.
      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 19:52 | 6919345 Kina
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      Unfortunately the 'Government' is itself the prime terrorist coordinator. It creates, enables, funds, trains and arms groups to be terrorists.

       

      If Governments were serious then the Policies toward, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkery would be 180 degrees different. But the reality is that these countries are in coordination with Washington to create and manage 'their' combined terrorist groups.

      When Russia started bombing ISIS for real the US, Saudis, Turkery started shitting themselves. They weren't bombing desert like the USA was, they were actually hitting 'their' terrorists.

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:06 | 6919400 Niall Of The Ni...
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      If DC were serious about fighting terrorism, they would have turned Saudi Arabia into a H-bomb testing range on September 12, and deputized Americans to exercise their right to keep, bear and use arms to rid the United States of their Muslim fifth-columns. The war against Muslim terror would have ended in the Middle East in days, on the home front in months.

      All it would have taken was a little courage and a government that took the side of the American people, not the side of Wall Street and the House of Saud.

      But go on, Mr. Walt. Explain again how the Israel Lobby is to blame for it all. 

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:26 | 6919474 Ms No
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      If they were serious about ending terrorism they would torture themselves (they seem to think they get reliable info this way) and then commit mass suicide by nail gun.

       

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:31 | 6919491 Radical Marijuana
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      "If Washington Were Serious About Defeating Terrorism" then the events on 9/11/2001 would not have been an inside job, false flag attack, carried out by the Deep State Shadow Government that controls "Washington," as well as that that false flag attack's official story would not have been aided and abetted by the mass media ...

       

      The "War on Terror" is the latest episode in the overall War on Consciousness waged by the ruling classes against those they ruled over for thousands of years. The oldest book on The Art of War starts by saying that "success in war is based on deceit" and ends by saying "spies are the most important soldiers." Thousands of years of successful warfare based upon deceits and treacheries, which were applications of the principles and methods of organized crime on larger and larger scales, became what made civilization as it now exists, due to the surviving War Kings creating the powers of sovereign states, which are primarily the power to rob (called taxation) and the power to kill those who resist being robbed (called rule of law.)

      The more recent history of the vicious spirals of POLITICAL FUNDING ENFORCING FRAUDS have resulted in the international bankers becoming the biggest gangsters, or the banksters, which have captured control over the powers of governments, in ways which have effectively privatized those powers to rob, and to kill to back up that robber, in ways whereby the governmental powers to tax, and to enforce taxation laws, operate as combined money/murder systems that transform the "money" made out of nothing as debts by privately controlled banks into the legal tender that everyone is required to use.

      That is the basic background to the so-called "War on Terror" as the latest installment of the prolonged War on Consciousness that has been quite successfully waged by the ruling classes against those they rule over. That currently is primarily the international banksters, being the Fraud Kings, around which have grown up the big corporations, which together form the core of the Deep State Shadow Governments, behind national governments, which have started the "War on Terror" as a self-fulfilling prophesy, that they can exploit to advance their overall agenda.

      IF, IF, IF any government was serious about "terrorism" it would NOT be operated by professional hypocrites, using the dualities of false fundamental dichotomies. Rather, it would use unitary mechanisms in order to admit and address the social facts that governments are necessarily the biggest forms of organized crime and terrorism, controlled by the best organized forms of crime and terrorism, which are currently the international banksters operating as financial terrorists, through their abilities to control political puppet politicians, who will be voted for by enough of the masses of muppets, enough of whom have been brainwashed to believe in bullshit by their schooling and the mass media misinformation regarding pretty well everything, and more recently, especially regarding the so-called "War on Terror."

      The underlying features of human evolution and history have been the internalization of natural selection pressures into human intelligence, which was then primarily applied to the most important selection pressures, which were other groups of human beings, which therefore drove the history of warfare, based on backing up deceits with destruction, that gradually morphed to become the history of economics based on governments enforcing frauds by privately controlled banks, as the powers of the War Kings became directed by the Fraud Kings.

      Overall, the international banksters are collectively a group of trillionaire mass murderers, who have used every possible principle and method of organized crime in order to be able to control civilization, which more and more has become the "War on Terror," as the worst manifestation yet, of the ways that the excessive successfulness of controlling civilization through the methods of organized crime has become runaway criminal insanities. Hence, the established systems of debt slavery have already generated numbers which have become debt insanities, which are going to provoke death insanities. The ruling classes have prepared for that by starting the "War on Terror" as an increasingly useful means to start more genocidal wars, along with preparations to impose democidal martial law.

      The underlying problems behind the ways that the currently established combined money/murder systems operate through the maximum possible frauds and deceits are due to chronic political problems that are inherent in the nature of life. Those chronic political problems have driven the development of expedient sets of solutions through the social pyramid systems, based on the ruling classes controlling those they rule over by backing up lies with violence, which have resulted in the vast majority of those they have thereby successfully ruled over becoming ignorant and afraid.

      The existing human ecology has become that the ruling classes act as the predatory/parasites upon those they rule over acting as the productive/prey. However, the increasing introduction of inanimate energy sources into those social systems has radically changed everything, but NOT yet significantly changed the ways that most people continue to think about political problems. The deeper reasons why there is no better "War on Terror" is that would require generally better militarism, as the ideology of the human murder systems, which back up the human monetary systems. The essential issues exist due to natural selection pressures. There must necessarily be some death control systems to back up some debt control systems. The real history of those have resulted in those systems becoming most socially successful through being done in the most deceitful and fraudulent ways. I.e., the ruling classes almost totally get away with their bullshit social stories about what they are doing, while they tend to be surrounded by nothing but controlled opposition groups, that stay within the same frame of reference of bullshit social stories. Although there has developed more awareness of the role of false flag attacks in the history of warfare, that level of awareness has, so far, not demonstrated any significant ability to change the dominating public presentations of the so-called "official stories" regarding the "War on Terror."

      Thus, there is now almost nothing but the core of organized crime, surrounded by layers of controlled opposition groups, both of which stay within the same frame of reference based upon false fundamental dichotomies, and the related impossible ideals. Meanwhile, within the life time of those alive today, the combined money/murder systems have become globalized electronic frauds, backed by the threat of force from atomic bombs. However, the vast majority of people continue to want to believe in the same old-fashioned bullshit social stories, that were originally promoted by the biggest bullies, in order to enable them to operate as better professional hypocrites. (E.g., now through their public presentation of the "War on Terror.")

      Since all human beings, as soon as they are perceived and defined as separate from their environment and each other, necessarily live as entropic pumps of environmental energy flows, or gangs of robbers, the only things that actually exist are the dynamic equilibria between different systems of organized lies operating robberies. The most significant of those regarding the current kinds of "War on Terror" can be perceived as various factions of Neolithic Civilization in conflict with each other.

      The Western World's primary State Religions are its monetary system, and national security. Those are clashing with the old-fashioned State Religions, that were the previously dominate forms of organized crime that were able to conquer the Middle Eastern regions, until those were conquered by the Western World. That history is sufficiently recent for it to still be fought about today, as struggles to control the monetary systems, that will then control access to natural resources.

      Any "Islamic State" as a functioning State Religion, is in conflict with the Western World's State Religion, which is primarily the apparent faith-based fiat money, that is made out of nothing as debts, which frauds are enforced by governments.  That is the context inside which the so-called "War on Terror" is actually a conflict between the most dominate organized crime gangs, and the second most dominate organized crime gangs.

      Since those respective organized crime gangs are operated by their own best available professional hypocrites, and their conflicts have been amplified to astronomical sizes by technologies becoming trillions of times more powerful and capable than ever before in human history, the overall so-called "War on Terror" has become many orders of magnitude more criminally insane than any previous wars.

      The so-called "War on Terror" is one of the many facets of the ways that there are now NO realistic resolutions for how to operate the real human murder systems after the development of weapons of mass destruction. Rather, we all may be waiting for sufficient uses of such weapons of mass destruction to horribly demonstrate the degree to which Neolithic Civilization has become runaway criminal insanities.

      Theoretically speaking, we should go through series of intellectual scientific revolutions, especially with regard to how we perceive the human death control systems, in order that those sorts of profound paradigm shifts could integrate and surpass those paradigm shifts which already occurred in physical science, which have made it possible for the combined money/murder systems to become globalized electronic frauds backed by atomic bombs. HOWEVER, that appears to be politically impossible, given the degree to which old-fashioned State Religions continue to so totally dominate the established sociopolitical systems. Therefore, the "War on Terror" appears practically guaranteed to continue to devolve into much worse forms of death insanities in the foreseeable future, since any better death control systems seem quite politically impossible within the established social pyramid systems controlled by various groups of professional hypocrites.

      That is the overall context that I use in order to regard the article above as being another all too typical example of way too superficial analysis of the problems! For instance, that article stated:

      I’m positive organizations like Fox News and CNN do not intend to help al Qaeda or the Islamic State, but that is in fact precisely what they are doing.

      That interpretation relies upon presumptions based on applying Hanlon's Razor:

      Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

      IN THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE, then Hanlon's Razor makes good sense, as a particular application of the generally valid use of Occam's Razor. However, given the abundance of relevant evidence that is now publicly available, people who tend to presume to use Hanlon's Razor are doing so through their own deliberate ignorance and willful blindness. In the case of both the so-called "War on Drugs," and now the "War on Terror," etc., as significant recent phases in the overall War on Consciousness, those were deliberately designed and implemented by the ruling classes, in order for the resulting social situations to become such that they achieved what they ACTUALLY INTENDED, therefore, they succeeded.

      Since the banksters and their buddies control the mass media, it is NOT correct to presume that the mass media have been mistakenly promoting the phases of the ruling classes' War on Consciousness, that has become the "War on Terror," becoming a worse and worse self-fulfilling prophesy, whose increasing blowback was deliberate design feature. Unless one is able and willing to suffer through enough cognitive dissonance to comprehend that the events on 9/11/2001 were an inside job, false flag attack, then nothing else one ever thinks regarding the "War on Terror" passes that litmus test!

      In my opinion, the article above was of relatively low quality, due to its apparent failure to engage in any deeper analysis, while instead taking most of the public stories regarding the "War on Terror" at their superficial face value. Of course, I can somewhat sympathize with that, because after suffering through enough cognitive dissonance to comprehend that governments are necessarily the biggest forms of organized crime and terrorism, controlled by the best organized criminals and terrorists, then the real situation is revealed to be many orders of magnitude WORSE! Indeed, I too wish that things were not that BAD. However, that is how BAD things actually are, which then requires much more of "An Entirely Different Playbook" than that suggested by the relatively superficial analysis presented in the article above!

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 21:10 | 6919627 Freddie
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      The US and European borders are wide open.  Terrorism is fake. The people are idiots and leaders are evil - note stolen election in France tonight.

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:37 | 6919509 Hip2BSquare
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      Oh bloody hell, the oligarchs are in need of spending money from we the populaions of the Earth; and the elites' profits of war are realized threefold; in the price of assault and defense, in the population reduction, and in the corporate treaties. The "United States, Inc." commercial activities have no standing in law on the land, do they?   <got Silver?>

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:39 | 6919513 Hip2BSquare
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      Oh bloody hell, the oligarchs are in need of spending money from we the populaions of the Earth; and the elites' profits of war are realized threefold; in the price of assault and defense, in the population reduction, and in the corporate treaties. The "United States, Inc." commercial activities have no standing in law on the land, do they?. <got Silver?>

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:44 | 6919538 man of Wool
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      How do you defeat a concept?  You can't. War on Terror is an invention of the same dumbos who invented war on Drugs etc...

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:48 | 6919549 RECISION
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      Well, here's the problem...

      Yet the unhinged nature of the current discourse on terrorism also reveals how profoundly unserious U.S. counterterrorism efforts really are. To say this, sounds odd - given the hundreds of billions of dollars that have been thrown at the problem, and the tens of thousands of lives ..

      Except - if you want to have your cake and eat it too, then you've got a dilemma.

      How can you change the way you do (nearly) everything - and yet - keep on doing business as usual ???

      How do you keep the Banks doing their dodgy deals, and the Saudi's scratching your back, etc etc etc - and - STOP the Banks and the Saudi's, and etc etc, doing all that dodgy shit that is now coming back to bite you on the bum ?????

      Ohh - buggar, you can't.

      So - which one do you care about most ???

      The dodgy deals ?

      Or the terrorism ??? 

      Hey - why not just do both ?

      Ohh, that's right - we are...

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 20:51 | 6919562 22winmag
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      If the TEA PARTY fakers were serious about anything they would defund the wars and stop military aid.

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 21:15 | 6919653 Freddie
      Freddie's picture

      Too many conservatives hate big govt but love MIC big govt.  Many were in the military.  They never realized they were used and they are fooled into endless war.

      The "military" and their banksters bosses have been f**king Americans over since the genocidal banksters "civil" War.   The left is just clueless, stupid and evil.

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 21:22 | 6919692 uhland62
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      Where would the military industrial complex be without terrorism and the wars? Do you know how many people would be unemployed if peace broke out? Would anyone know the sum total of the funds that countries pay the US for protection, i.e. the bases? It's a money making machine, quite visible in "wars first - people last". 

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 21:15 | 6919650 Westcoastliberal
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      The U.S. is only interested in defeating terrorism that runs contrary to its goals, which is why we're backing ISIS in Syria since the neocons want Assad overthrown.  These people don't plan beyond the end of their dicks, because just like in Iraq, all hell breaks loose later.

      A coup 'de tat assumed power in 2000 and shortly after the PNAC'ers had their "Pearl Harbor" with 9/11.  Unless and until the truth is told about 9/11 and those behind it, this country is sunk.

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 21:18 | 6919673 Freddie
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      +100

      I am not a liberal but totally agree.  Sadly, the sheep will probably never wake up.

      Mon, 12/14/2015 - 00:53 | 6920394 Demdere
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      And now they are criminals facing a death sentence and long drop at the end of a short rope.

      Considerable motivation in keeping us distracted while they get the world's govs changed to prevent that.

      Chaos is good, peace is bad.  Chaos increases the opportunity for whipping up hysteria about those evil Muslims or ... They use every hate against us, winning requires more hatred.

      https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/18/you-who-allow-yourselves-t...

      They are good at producing hatred, you may have noticed?

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 21:28 | 6919716 Boydist
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      The fact that 14 years and trillions of dollars and thousands of lives supposedly spent fighting 'the war on terror' has failed is surely not something that only we have noted?

      It is and was so obviously going to be a failure that the real motivation for all this expenditure in life and money must surely be something else. Perhaps the perpetual state of war and the money spent to pay for it, or the control of society are the real reasons?

      Mon, 12/14/2015 - 04:31 | 6920660 africoman
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      Yes and another thing i see it is chaos,mass murder,spiritual blasphemy and then the rise of Antichrist(Ordo abcheyos) order out of Chaos. 

      And More...

      Sun, 12/13/2015 - 23:27 | 6920177 Youri Carma
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      Duh!

      Mon, 12/14/2015 - 00:52 | 6920395 onmail1
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      Washigton is in the same situation as was Germany before WW2

      Economically bankrupt

      hence it has taken to all forms of immorality & evil

      in order to  make good all the deffisit

      --------------

      H.Finn-Deffisit

      'Cuss you, I can see now why you was so anxious to make up the deffisit—you wanted to get what money I’d got out of the Nonesuch'

      'Why, duke, it was you that said make up the deffisit; it warn’t me'

      'Dry up! I don’t want to hear no more out of you!' says the duke. 'And NOW you see what you GOT by it. They’ve got all their own money back, and all of OURN but a shekel or two BESIDES. G’long to bed, and don’t you deffersit ME no more deffersits, long ’s YOU live'

      --------------

      Hah ha

      What Washigton is doing is playing Royal Nonesuch 

      And we are all seeing the exposed dirty smelly a$$holes of LiarObama ,his cabinet & his govt & CIA

      Mon, 12/14/2015 - 06:19 | 6920723 shutterbug
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      The USA governments ARE the source of the problem.

      Not the terrorist groups they started, funded and gave weapons.

      Want to fight terrorists? Then start with the USA government. Make it so they will never try to dominate other regions or countries again.

      Mon, 12/14/2015 - 07:51 | 6920771 Last of the Mid...
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      Washington IS teorrorism. That is their complete playbook now.

      Tue, 12/15/2015 - 03:27 | 6924798 africoman
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      Common sense: If one keeps insidiously creating terrorist/jihadist and keeps talking about how he planned to tackle it in actuality aggravate it and keeps talking how his former ways are not satisfactory and he has new plan to safe guard you and defeat it and for that need more funding etc etc

      Q: then who is the terrorist here?

      A: You fuck'n moron it is He>AKA>>>>>>THE GOVERNMENT!!  It is fuckn rip off, send them to the HOT place.

       

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