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Navy's New, "Truly Unstoppable" Warship Breaks Down Three Weeks After Launch

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Here’s a dramatic video of the USS Milwaukee, the Navy's newest Freedom-class littoral combat ship, charging along at 45 knots (note the epic musical score): 

That’s from acceptance drills during October when the ship's crew was described by Commander Mark Haney as 'truly unstoppable.’

Fast forward to Friday and this was the scene as the Milwaukee was towed more than 40 nautical miles to Joint Expeditionary Base Little Creek, Virginia.

As it turns out, the Milwaukee is ‘truly unstoppable’ unless “fine metal debris” accumulates in the lube oil filter. If that happens, the vessel apparently goes from “unstoppable” to “unusable,” and must be towed to port. 

According to NavyTimes, “the ship suffered an engineering casualty while transiting from Halifax, Canada, to Mayport, Florida, and ultimately its home port of San Diego.” Here’s more: 

Problems with the propulsion plant began almost as soon as Milwaukee got underway from Halifax. The ship’s computer system triggered an alarm and the ship called away an engineering casualty.

 

Engineers cleaned out the metal filings from the lube oil filter and locked the port shaft as a precaution. In the early hours of Friday morning, the ship was conducting steering tests and lost lube oil pressure in the starboard combining gear due to the presence of the same metal filings in that filter.

 

The ship then dropped anchor while the engineers worked on the system. By mid-morning, the salvage ship Grapple rendezvoused with Milwaukee and connected a towing hawser line for the trip back to Little Creek.

John McCain was note happy. "Reporting of a complete loss of propulsion on USS Milwaukee (LCS 5) is deeply alarming, particularly given this ship was commissioned just 20 days ago,” everyone's favorite Senate warhawk said. “U.S. Navy ships are built with redundant systems to enable continued operation in the event of an engineering casualty, which makes this incident very concerning."

According to the Navy, "the Milwaukee is a fast, agile, focused-mission platform designed for operation in near-shore environments yet capable of open-ocean operation" - or not, apparently. And more: "It is designed to defeat asymmetric "anti-access" threats such as mines, quiet diesel submarines and fast surface craft."

That sounds pretty impressive, so perhaps someone should ask Stephanie C. Hill, vice president of Ship & Aviation Systems for Lockheed Martin Mission Systems and Training business what went wrong. Here's how Hill described the vessel when it was commissioned in November: 

“The USS Milwaukee is a warship with capabilities unlike any others. The entire Lockheed Martin-led LCS industry team is proud to deliver USS Milwaukee to the crew who will bring this great ship to life to participate in the defense of our great nation.”

(crew members board the Milwaukee at its commissioning)

We're sure someone at Putin’s new multi-billion, National Control Defense Center got a kick out of this. 

Because there's not much more we could add to make this any more amusing than it already is, we'll siimply close with one last quote, this one from the Honorable Ray Mabus, secretary of the Navy:

"The spirit of the people of Wisconsin is evident in the work of the shipbuilders whose tireless efforts have brought the soon-to-be USS Milwaukee to life. It is this spirit that will live on through this ship as it carries the name Milwaukee across the globe and helps ensure our Navy and Marine Corps remain the most formidable expeditionary fighting force the world has ever known." 

 

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Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:52 | 6921245 pot_and_kettle
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unstoppable - except when it hits the water

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:54 | 6921252 freewolf7
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Exceptionalism.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:55 | 6921267 y3maxx
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...How do I sign up for this ship?

tia

abdul 

c/o 

ISIS

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:58 | 6921288 Temporalist
Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:06 | 6921334 Tyler Durderian
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OOOPS, you sunk my battleship

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:08 | 6921347 SWRichmond
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U.S. Navy ships are built with redundant systems to enable continued operation in the event of an engineering casualty, which makes this incident very concerning.

There are no backup syatems for the main shaft(s) and main propulsion gear.  What a fucking moron.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:09 | 6921352 FL_Conservative
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Brought to you by the creators of the Obamacare website.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:19 | 6921428 power steering
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Dude!!  You could water ski behind that beast!!!!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:45 | 6921479 nuubee
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PSY-op to make America's forces look weaker than they are. You can't appear to be the bully when you're the strongest one on the block. You have to look fallible or else no one will pick a fight with you.

 

BTW, isn't that music in the video from an old metal gear solid game?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:54 | 6921636 HowdyDoody
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They should have paid for the extended warranty.

"Whaddyamean you wanted the ship to be used in warfare? That wasn't in the spec."

 

 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:58 | 6921646 Ignatius
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El Boner of the Sea

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:09 | 6921685 847328_3527
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" Change you can beleeve in! "

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:16 | 6921985 JonNadler
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we almost drowned some folfs

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:29 | 6922034 kralizec
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You didn't drown that.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:57 | 6922147 Bastiat
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Sounds like it was sabotaged when it was built . . . then again, the metal filings could be the result of a failing part.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 14:31 | 6922367 GeezerGeek
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They should have used the expensive, high quality parts from Japan instead of relying on the chaeper junk from China. Our military is worth the extra expense.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:46 | 6921859 JohninMK
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The warranty ends on handover. The Navy accepts it as fit for pupose and away it goes.

After that it is a revenue earning opportunity for Lockheed.

 

Tue, 12/15/2015 - 11:41 | 6925847 fallout11
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Operations and Maintenance expense is, on average, over 75% of the total life cycle cost of a major US weapons system (Source: DOD Defense Acquisitions University). 
Who buys a $20,000 car that requires $80,000 in repair and maintenance expense? The US DOD, that's who. 
Historically, short shrift has been given (in the design process) to availability, maintainability, repairability, mean time between failure, mean time to repair, cost per hour of use, etc. It is just free money for the prime contractor, long term revenue stream with vendor lock-in built right in.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:07 | 6921960 greenskeeper carl
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Im not defending lockheed or the navy, that ship may very well be a world class hunk of shit, but these kinds of things are pretty common when commisioning a new class of ships. The first few 'plank owner' crews always have to deal with this kind of shit on the first couple hulls, not the least bit unexpected.

 

IM sure these things will end up being the "F-35 of the water" on a perfromance basis, but these kinds of issues on a new boat are normal. And ya, there are no redundancies with the shaft/MPE's. Mccain is a fucing idiot as well. "I want these things ready to kill by tomorrow morning or there will be hell to pay" while flinging spittle everywhere.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:36 | 6922069 Taint Boil
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+1 for flinging spittle. LMFAO

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 15:48 | 6922728 Dugald
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Rumor has it the vessel is going to be fitted with three huge sweeps over the stern, as backup propulsion...

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:37 | 6923202 StychoKiller
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Are 'sweeps' sails, perchance?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:28 | 6921497 erkme73
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First paragraph:

"Here’s a dramatic video of the USS Milwaukee, the Navy's newest Freedom-class Clittoral combat ship, charging along at 45 knots (note the epic musical score):"

 

At least, that's how I read it.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:36 | 6921545 Payne
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We should be using Nuke subs instead for the same role.  Except for the politics we probably would be.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:41 | 6921835 Bring the Gold
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If by "politics" you mean common sense and rationality then yes, we don't use nuclear armed subs for damn near anything so we don't accidentally incinerate all higher life on earth due to mutually assured destruction. Yeah, darn politics keeping us from a global suicide pact. A REAL man would kill all higher life on earth. Brilliant.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:08 | 6921965 cheech_wizard
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Two types of nuclear subs, are their not? In layman's terms 1) Fast attack boats, and 2) Boomers

1) Designed for one thing really, sink the enemies subs and surface fleet, while capable of carrying nuclear weapons, seldom do so. (They are also really good for spying and violating international limits)

2) The ones with the ICBM's on board. Forever turning lazy figure 8's out in the Pacific. Purpose, to act as a deterrent to nuclear war, because it is highly unlikely you'll be able to sink all of them before they launch.

Standard Disclaimer: So other than that, you're right, they serve no useful purpose. Much like your post.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 15:51 | 6922743 Dugald
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Standard Disclaimer: So other than that, you're right, they serve no useful purpose. Much like your post.

Bet he knows the difference between 'there and their"

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 18:05 | 6923266 Icelandicsaga.....
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Bring gold...you are so precious you bring a smile...the sub has other purposes then lobbing nukes. Go back to pretending you know jack shit...but save the snark for subjects you know someting about.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:39 | 6921564 FL_Conservative
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So that's what the fishy smell is.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:55 | 6921639 ImReady
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lol, at 50mph you'd better hold on tight!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:21 | 6921746 ThroxxOfVron
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"Dude!!  You could water ski behind that beast!!!! "

 

SUre.

IF you had another boat to pull the skis...

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:44 | 6921854 caconhma
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It is the Obama Navy, like the rest of corrupt Pentagon acquisitions.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:12 | 6921364 Cognitive Dissonance
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Fine metal debris in the oil/lube filter usually indicates (main) bearing problems. Whoops. You just don't pop into Jiffy Lube and fix that problem in 15 minutes or less.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:14 | 6921390 City_Of_Champyinz
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My thoughts exactly, those metal filings are parts being destroyed...

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:59 | 6921648 Amish Hacker
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Yup. It's about quality. Initial break-in of parts machined to close tolerances will always result in some fine metal filings, as moving parts bear on each other. This is the final step in creating a perfect fit. After that, the wear virtually stops. But if the design or initial machining are not good, the wear continues and becomes increasingly destructive, and the navy's shiny new toy goes back to port on the end of a towline.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:45 | 6922978 inhibi
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Transmission systems are ALWAYS tested prior to the real world. ALWAYS. There is no 'breaking-in' period for a Navy warship.

 

I did a bunch of work for Allison, the transmission company that built the X1100, which was a transmission for the Abrahms tank. Firstly, no close tolerances to speak of. You dont want the system to jam up because of small debris.

Secondly, the filters were mil-spec beta 6 > 200, meaning it picked up every particle greater that 6 microns 199/200 or 99.5% of the time. Like every heavy duty transmission has a filter like this in it.

I dont know much about ships, but if metal filings are getting through your filtration system, something is horribly wrong. Like someone-forgot-to-put-on-the-filter kind of wrong. I bet you anything someone switched the filters for pressure and suction, or something along those lines. Either that or Lockheed Martin needs to pay for the system to be rebuilt.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:00 | 6921651 ThroxxOfVron
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Krugmanomics MIC Edition.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:04 | 6921661 Proofreder
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Fine Metal shavings ???

Either main bearing assembly issues or Sabotage. 

The latter not being mentioned leads one to believe it may, indeed, be the root cause of this problem - wonder if the 'analysis' will ever be made public ???

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 15:09 | 6922571 Beowulf55
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Surprised McInsane isn't blaming Putin................

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:10 | 6921695 Tarzan
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The oil runs through the entire engine lubricating every moving part.  Any one of those parts could be the source of the metal shavings.  Problem is, how many other parts did those metal shavings go through before being lodged in the filter? 

Locating the source of the metal shavings will only be the start.  They will need to tear that engine down and inspect every part the oil passes through in order to asses the secondary damage done by contaminated oil, the life blood of a motor.

essentially, the motor could be ruined, unfixable, if they didn't catch this soon enough.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:23 | 6921755 ThroxxOfVron
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Ain't no bid contracts grand.

Probably made with the cheapest Chinese sourced materials and parts..

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:36 | 6921813 7.62x54r
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You are confusing the engine sump with the main shafts. Different systems. The prop shafts have their own sump.

Once they get the shaft bearngs fixed, the ship will run long enough for them to find out what else is fucked up!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:40 | 6921830 nmewn
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So you're saying there really is a chance of getting this thing operational by say, 2025.

"This is fantastic! Well done men, carry on!" ;-)

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:49 | 6922118 Tarzan
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The problem initially was located on the Port Shaft, then after it was locked and they continued operations, the problem reappeared in the starboard Combining Gear. 

I have no way of knowing for sure, but I suspect the two sides are using the same lubrication system, because the combining gears are usually used to combine the thrust of the port and starboard sides together, and if not the metal shavings would have no way to migrate to the starboard side.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:00 | 6921933 Kobe Beef
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sourced from China?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 15:55 | 6922763 Dugald
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Waul, there is debris, and there are filings, if filings...think sabotage!!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:19 | 6921999 Allen_H
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A bit ambitious for a meccano set build.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:16 | 6921388 El Oregonian
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OR, was that supposed to be "UNSTARTABLE"?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:19 | 6921422 booboo
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"There are no backup syatems for the main shaft(s) and main propulsion gear"

Sure they do, that is what that poling platform is for on the back of the ship, you didn't really think that was a helopad did you?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 15:23 | 6922607 nofluer
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The "back-up systems" comment was made by Sen J McCain. We must make allowances for him given that he's a) a politician, thus ignorant of the real world, and b) never actually drove a ship or commanded one. He rode on them. We can credit his low knowledge level to the fact that he was a jet airplane driver - and not overly successful at even that.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:22 | 6921417 RafterManFMJ
Mon, 12/14/2015 - 21:29 | 6923983 sonoftx
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Thanks for the laugh RafterMan!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:34 | 6921531 Slomotrainwreck
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OOOPS, you sunk my battleship

 

Not really, it just got "milwaukee'd"

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:29 | 6922031 unrulian
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Been on a lot of ships, wtf is that blow hole on the bow spewing spray all over the bridge windows? the bow is supposed to spray away from the bridge to aid is seeing anything ahead in the water (logs, mines etc) ...makes zero sense especially if the spray is freezing

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:04 | 6922785 Dugald
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Thar she blows......

Investigation shows that the windscreen washer is in the wrong place....

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:07 | 6921342 y3maxx
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News update...

Ship now in the hands of Somalians pirates.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:12 | 6921366 Luc X. Ifer
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Do people realize that when your conventional arsenal is insuficient to defend there is a huge vital incentive to use preemtivly the nuclear arsenal?!

This is the dangerous truth and unavoidable consequence of the F-35, marine mines detection system and certain other failures/scams of the US MiC?! 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:04 | 6921665 WeTheSheeplez
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Break out the oars...

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:08 | 6921682 ThroxxOfVron
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As I keep repeating: at least ONE of the so-called security/defence systems is a total sham.

I'd like to see the nukes decommissioned but the US MIC can't seem to field armed forces capable of winning conflicts in short order even agaisnt rag-tag insurgencies and 3rd world militias even when they are completely exposed in flat dseserts and wholly without air cover/support..

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:30 | 6921790 Collectivism Killz
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For better or worse, "ragtag" insurgents are more difficult to defeat than standing armies. Armies rely on gear, infrastructure and command structure. Militia groups usually lack the heavy fire power and ability to mass coordinate, but they have little that can truly be destroyed by air power and they have the benefit of fading back into the civilian population. Going after them usually entails significant costs to the locals, which only increases the size of the insurgency. Putin actually did a good job in the second Chechen war, but there are few examples of victory over insurgencies in modern warfare.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:24 | 6921981 ThroxxOfVron
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I'm not buying it.

The US can see these people rolling in columns.    It's not like they only travel in pairs.

The US can see the fucking gun mounted Toyota trucks.  These people are not sneaking around with glocks under their robes and jackets.

The US can see the acres of poppies being grown and harvested.  The shit cannot be grown in closets like a coupla weed plants.

The US can see convoys of dozens of oil tanker trucks crossing treeless borders.  There is no camoflauging what is going on.

 

That said...

 

IF the US can inflict significant ECONOMIC damage on Russia or Iran via sanctions and embargoes and asset freezes/confiscations, then it seems reasonable to assume that the same could be done with respect to nations that sell weapons to these insurgencies.

I propose an arms embargo of the ME enforced via stringent economic sanctions and asset confiscations.

ANYONE determined to be selling arms to ANYONE in the ME is hit with the full game: NO clearing of transactions, sanctions, asset confiscations, etc.

France, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, etc.: NO more weapons sales.  NONE.  Starve them of weapons and ammunition and fuel and money.

We probably don't need to send in armies if we can simply starve insurgencies of war materials.

 

I am sick of the endless bullshit and costs.

Stop the flow of weapons, supplies, and money -and we can leave the sunshine in the can...

OR...

Pull the pin and let 'em know we are not fucking around and want this shit shut down NOW.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 15:59 | 6922784 BarkingCat
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>>>>Pull the pin and let 'em know we are not fucking around and want this shit shut down NOW<<<<

How about stopping fucking around in THEIR neighborhood???
Who gives a damn what they do there?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:59 | 6921299 Bunghole
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Lockheed Martin should stick to picking on the "fun-sized terrorists".

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:00 | 6921310 G.O.O.D
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Unless this headline is true:

Russian fighter blinds US naval ship with radar jamming. USS Donald Cook.

 

Several months back I put up an article that stated that a Russian SU24 fighter plane buzzed an American Aegis Cruiser, the USS Donald Cook, while the ship was near Russian territorial waters near the Crimean peninsula (Read my previous article here).   That Russian aircraft then proceeded to do the unthinkable by “turning off” the Aegis cruiser’s defenses using new state of the art Russian electronic jamming technology! 

 

If this is indeed fact, our navy better stay in port.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:28 | 6921496 commie
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We might as well surrender now as the Russian magical electronic game is superior. This will really have the Putin analingus ZH crowd cuming

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:15 | 6921724 farflungstar
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We don't need the Russians to make us look stupid and incompetent. We do a fine job of that on our own.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 14:42 | 6922433 Katos
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LMFAO! NO SHIT!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:47 | 6921862 nmewn
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Oh come on mang, it's not like the Russians or the Chi-Coms have never forgotten to close some seacocks and wound up half sunk ships right at the dock...lol.

Ya gotta roll wif it ;-)

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:02 | 6922801 BarkingCat
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Exactly. Shit happens.
This is what sea trials are for - to shake out the bugs.
The engineers will go over the issue and resolve it.
Any new design is likely to have some flaws. The
Dreamliner from Boeing didn't exactly have a flawless debute.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:37 | 6921554 FireBrander
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USS Donald Cook story was a hoax.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:49 | 6921617 grgy
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How do you know the USS Donald Cook story is a hoax?  I found this essay quite informative regarding Russian superiority in conventional military terms. http://www.voltairenet.org/article189043.html

 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:14 | 6921717 HowdyDoody
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The Cook was heading directly towards Crimea, presumably to bring Crimea within range of its cruise missiles. The Cook turned tail when the Russian defenses on the Sevastopol illuminated it with the Bastion radar systems and prepared the Bastion missiles for launch. The unarmed Su-24 fling by was a classic 'come on, show us what you got' move.

"We deployed it [mobile Bastion complex] so it was visible from space".

"They [the Cook] were under gunpoint and likely to come under strike at any moment".

"It veered south and headed for the Bosporus at full speed".

It is all detailed by the Russian military involved in a long video about the Crimea incident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t42-71RpRgI

From about 1:24:00 in.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:18 | 6921740 G.O.O.D
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Google Russian Signal Jamming:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Russian+signal+jamming+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

 

About 267,000 results (0.35 seconds)
Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:11 | 6922841 FireBrander
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The plane buzzed the ship and that's all that happened. Videos of it online..NO videos/pics of the ship being towed...if it was true, there would be more evidence than a few posts at Rightwingnut websites.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:35 | 6921540 FireBrander
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IF, we ever get the truth of "what went wrong"...I'm putting my money on China...Chinese "steel" has a tendancy of turning into "filings" real fast with the least bit stress...

How many of you own a "Stainless Steel" item covered in rust that is stamped "Made in China"?

I installed some Made in USA stainless bolts on a tractor back in the early 90's...still rust free...

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:06 | 6921954 Bunghole
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Depends on the grade of stainless.

304 will "rust" where 316 generally wont.  400 series stainless (no nickel) will rust the most.

There's plenty of American-made 304 and 400 series out there.  

304 is close to 18/8 stainless (18% Cr and 8% Ni) where 316 is 16% Cr, 10% Ni and 2% Mo. 

It also depends on the finish of the SS.  A smooth finish is less likely to corrode vs a brushed or matte finish.

You may want to check the specs of what you buy before blaming an entire country.

316 or 18/10 with a proper finish will avoid corrosion the best, but most American's dont want to pay for quality.

They'd rather bitch to their fellow Americans revealing their ignorance and cheapness.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:07 | 6922820 FireBrander
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I'm talking bolts.

Back in the day, a Made in USA Stainless bolt at your local hardware store didn't rust; period.

Chinese stainless rusts like a bitch...who wants to buy a "stainless steel" bolt that rusts?..and it's doesn't say on the package 304, 316, 400...just says stainless steel and CHARGES YOU ACCORDINGLY...I've given up on "stainless" and stick with Galvanized for a much lower price and better performance.

Is this Chinese bitch gonna rust or not?

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lehigh-3-8-in-x-4-1-2-in-Stainless-Steel-Scre...

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:31 | 6921792 Chuck Walla
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All that salt washover from the anchor scupper will keep the deck apes busy scrubbing and painting.
FORWARD SOVIET

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:53 | 6921906 JohninMK
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I noticed that too. A really strange design feature, I put it down to some advanced automatic bridge windshield washer, bit like you get on modern cars.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:41 | 6922092 Canoe Driver
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This type of "hurrah Team!" carrying on is standard procedure when a new military system is launched. But make no mistake about it, everyone in the military, and most of the eggheads in government, are fully aware that the plot was lost with F-35 and this LCS naval program. Both white elephants that simply don't work, and were troubled from the start. Something has gone terribly wrong in the defense procurement pipeline. Money is being spent only for the sake of spending money. And these days it is all borrowed and printed money. Billions of it wasted. Absolutely tragic attempt to keep the payola flowing, and an embarrassment for every American. All this is common knowledge. I suggest you do a google search on these systems.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 14:08 | 6922232 Rancho Texican
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There's a typo. Fixed it:

"Navy's newest Freedom-class clittoral combat ship"

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 14:40 | 6922420 Katos
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It's no wonder we can't win a war! The military industrial system corporations which sucked up 75% of the American budget, have to make sure their CEOS are the best paid in the business, their lobbyists have to have millions of dollars to court Senators a d congressmen, they need massive amounts of new cash infusions because they just can't seem to get it right the first time, or the second,  or the fourth, etc. The F35 flying piece of shit will cost American taxpayers a Trillion dollars before it's finally junked and a new piece of shit takes its place. We send our armed forces out with weapons that may, or may not work. We have the worst workmanship and the least pride in our work of any nation. It is really gonna show as China and Russia are on the cutti n G edge of technology and their workmanship is impeccable? 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:54 | 6921255 y3maxx
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...How do I sign up for this ship?

tia

abdul 

c/o 

ISIS

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:55 | 6921266 The Black Bishop
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Nothing that cant be fixed with some Sunburn!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:02 | 6921316 y3maxx
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double post.....crazy ads all over this page disrupting posting.

Obama's  behnd does not sunburn....he's kenyan.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:09 | 6921346 Bunghole
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Excuse are like assholes.

That was no double post.

You copy/pasted your original post to appear above a minute later.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:25 | 6921474 youngman
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Yes it now takes 60 seconds to load to where you can move the page....and to write something...it turns on and off....its getting annoying....enough scripting....

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:38 | 6921563 FireBrander
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FireFox - Addons - AdBlock Plus -ALL ADS GONE!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:14 | 6921718 valjoux7750
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Ice dragon browser for pc and  UC browser for android= no popups or adds period!

Your welcome

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:43 | 6922975 BarkingCat
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Or turn JavaScript OFF

You're welcome

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:17 | 6923117 FireBrander
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When I turn off JavaScript at ZH, it often crashes the browser...same with Android.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:52 | 6921631 grgy
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Try Ghostery.com to eliminate trackers too. Excellent add-on.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:12 | 6921371 ThanksChump
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Easy as 1-2-3:

1) Be very brown and build a bomb that is mistaken by police for a clock. Obama will invite you to the White House.

2) Ask Obama to assign you to the Miwaukee as a Fire Control Technician, Missiles (or FTM as it is known).

3) If he says "I'm sorry, the crew manifest is filled!", tell him that your father is King Salman and your mother is Lloyd Blankfein, and that they will be disappointed. Cry loudly. Ask "Where is a safe space from your microaggression, Mr. Obama?" You're in!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:56 | 6921276 rubiconsolutions
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Hey, it's still under warranty. Call the manufacturer and get a return authorization number and call tag. UPS will pick it up in a couple of days.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:39 | 6921571 RafterManFMJ
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You didn't read the fine print "...this product warranted against all manufacturing defects for 10 years, or until placed in salt water."

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:53 | 6921634 Proofreder
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Shipping charges can be a bitch

 

Perhaps the Navy should consider Amazon Prime.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:58 | 6921287 post turtle saver
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yeah yeah, here come the haters... meanwhile, the USS Zumwalt is kicking ass and taking names on its trial outing... but that's not news, so no one talks about that...

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:01 | 6921315 Bunghole
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So rescuing some drunken Maine fisherman is kicking ass and taking names?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:23 | 6921451 LoneStarHog
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Wired Magazine: 

The New $3B USS Zumwalt Is a Stealthy Oddity That May Already Be a Relic

http://www.wired.com/2015/12/the-new-3b-uss-zumwalt-is-a-stealthy-oddity...

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:03 | 6921321 viahj
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well, it is just yet another machine of war and in this case one that doesn't even function yet cost millions. 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:13 | 6921380 NoPension
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Millions? Ha! Hundreds of millions, most likely in the B range.

This is the Military industrial complex, the most sophisticated money sucking entity ever to grace the planet.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:04 | 6921326 Sanity Bear
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that's because even when they work they're still being used for mischief

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:12 | 6921376 cheech_wizard
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Kicking ass and taking names?

https://news.vice.com/article/the-us-navys-new-ships-are-supposed-to-hun...

This past week's problem lies with the Remote Multi-Mission Vehicle (RMMV), an underwater mine-seeking drone that deploys from the LCS as part of an onboard Remote Minehunting System (RMS) kit. A Lockheed Martin vessel sporting a Raytheon sonar, the underwater drone reportedly fails early and often — despite more than 10 years and $700 million spent working to improve it.

"Recent developmental testing provides no statistical evidence that the system is demonstrating improved reliability, and instead indicates that reliability plateaued nearly a decade ago," the Pentagon's Director of Operational Test and Evaluation (DOT&E), Dr. Michael Gilmore, noted in an August 3 memo. In other words, $700 million down the drain, and there's no way to prove it's any less likely to break than it was a decade ago.

The RMMV should run for 75 hours without a failure, but the DOT&E team reported a current overall reliability of just 25 hours for the RMMV and 18.8 hours for the full RMS. Testing revealed that the underwater mine-hunting drone "cannot be reliably controlled by the ship or communicate when it is operating out of the line-of-sight of the ship; and towed sonar cannot detect mines consistently; for the mines it can detect, it cannot do it nearly as quickly as the Navy requires; and it cannot seem to find certain mines at all."

Standard Insult Meme: http://cdn2.list25.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/birthcertificate.jpg

 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:55 | 6923013 BarkingCat
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I had a Raytheon radar and sonar on my pleasure boat. Both sucked. Very spotty performance.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:36 | 6921542 flapdoodle
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USS Zumwalt, and its sister ships, are capsizes waiting to happen.

(Oh, and incidently, that "stealth" design they have, isn't particularly stealthy these days...)

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:16 | 6921731 HowdyDoody
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Then certainly aren't stealthy when it comes to opening the taxpayers' wallet.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:25 | 6921750 farflungstar
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that ship is amazing in that it looks like the kind of naval ship a Big Brother-style tyranny would deploy. All it needs is the fucking pyramid with the eye painted on the top in red white and blue. Talk about ugly and Soviet.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:13 | 6921381 orez65
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"... as it carries the name Milwaukee across the globe ..."

It's  so sad and inonceivable that our Admirals are fighting the "last war".

The Milwaukee ship class belongs in the "siting duck" category.

It joins aircraft carriers and the F35 manned fighter in that "distinguished category".

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:16 | 6921385 Croesus
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@ John McStain: 

The world would be a far better place, if you were left behind in Vietnam. 

 

 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:25 | 6921471 Pliskin
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@ John McStain: The world would be a far better place, if you were cut from throat to balls and left to bleed out on the floor in front of the Capitol Building while a crowd gathered around and spat at you, you filthy, dirty, sad, pathetic old cunt.

Fixed/

 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:16 | 6921402 ThanksChump
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Contact Amazon customer service and request a replacement. You DO have a Prime account, right?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:16 | 6921405 orez65
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A Sea Tow membership would save the Navy a lot of expense. Probably could get a fleet discount!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:31 | 6921517 doctor10
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Both engines means fundamental engineering or maintanance failure.  The CO should be a Naval Acedemy grad-and proficient in engineering.Should lhave a good grasp on his ship's propulsion units

 

The DC crowd simply could cae less-they basically are distracted by the cash in the trough they're feeeding from.

 

http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230966

 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:56 | 6922159 researchfix
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I remember the head lines in all our German newspapers, when that Armata tank did not start up and was towed the day before the Moscow May parade.

So tomorrow the headlines will be - of course not - about this F 35 ship.

 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:39 | 6921566 Perimetr
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Should have named it the "DETROIT"

May work after a bail out

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 14:29 | 6922361 DavidC
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Lily Tomlin - 'No matter how cynical I get, I can't keep up'.

DavidC

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:52 | 6921247 Kirk2NCC1701
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Inconceivable!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:56 | 6921274 wildbad
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are you sure you are using that word correctly?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:58 | 6921293 Ghordius
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no, just strange, imho. that ship has two turbines which are usually used (in a 20% different adaptation) on... Boings 777

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolls-Royce_MT30)

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:04 | 6921664 Flagit
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Well, darn. I guess they do disintegrate.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 13:02 | 6921940 flapdoodle
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I'm sure they were designed to operate reliably in salty air without having the bearings disintegrate... oh wait - they did take that little fact into account, didn't they??

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:31 | 6921770 Hmmmmm
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.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:30 | 6921786 Hmmmmm
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I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVjs4aobqs

 

 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:53 | 6921248 IridiumRebel
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Call seaside assistance....

 

 

 

 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:50 | 6921588 Slomotrainwreck
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Call Seaside assistance

1-MIL-WAU-KEEE (645-928-5555)

Their motto is "The newly improved SNAFU"

 

oops ... just checked. Yup, "The number you have just dialed is incorrect". Well, DUH!

 

shit! I got fined by ZH for too many post edits. ... again.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:53 | 6921249 Dragon HAwk
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hope they sent something Old and Reliable to tow her back

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:54 | 6921250 y3maxx
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$100 billion dollars per vessel.

cheap

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:56 | 6921271 Normalcy Bias
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Freedom isn't free, there's a hefty fuckin' fee...

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:58 | 6921292 krispkritter
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All that money ain't free for you and me but it sure is for the MIC!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:00 | 6921309 To Hell In A Ha...
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Welfare for the Military Industrial Complex. USA, USA, Go, Go, Go! No doubt this ship in the near future will be deployed against some 3rd world, or developing nation, who just happens to be independent of the Washington consensus, who our MSM claim is a threat, with 1/100 of the military strength we have. Go figure. Yet by some magical coincidence they just happen to have natural resources we covet. This scam his been taking place under different guises for almost 700 fucking years.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:09 | 6921354 G.O.O.D
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It is not only resources but always check the banking situation. No central banking from the Red Shield allowing the issuing of currency @ interest?

 

Bomb them.

 

Terrorists.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:24 | 6921466 MopWater
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700 years? You give mankind and her governments too much credit, try since the beginning of time...there was just a little more parity when you're all using sticks and knives.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:12 | 6921350 SillySalesmanQu...
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An "engineering casualty..." BWAHAHAHA!
Like many prototypes, I'll bet "it looked good on paper."
$100 million, and it has metal filings in the oil filter...BWAHAHAHA!
Best laugh I have had in months...more giant sucking sounds emanating from the DLA, DOD, Lockheed-Martin and the MIC in general...BWAHAHAHA

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:17 | 6921411 Ghordius
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careful, it isn't a prototype, it's already the third ship of the Freedom-class, preceded by Freedom and Fort Worth

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:40 | 6921503 SillySalesmanQu...
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That means that they too, are doomed to mechanical failure...I would venture an educated guess that someone under-engineered a component part that is crucial to achieving the speeds that it travels... Bearing fatigue, more than likely, Cog nails it above.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:05 | 6921662 Shockwave
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Or it could simply mean that this particular ship has an isolated issue, since the others supposedly have been running longer without showing this problem

 

having occured so soon after commission makes me more inclined to say it's a part/assembly failure rather than a design flaw

 

 

 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:55 | 6921256 rsnoble
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The Beast!! LMAO.

Engineering issue, or lazy, hungover machinist issue?

No worries, nothing free 0's can't fix.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:59 | 6921281 krispkritter
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Or Made in Taiwan from recycled skyscraper beams?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:00 | 6921312 buzzsaw99
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yikes. i heard those things melt at room temperature.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:12 | 6921374 G.O.O.D
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It was a terrible design. One hot pickled egg fart and 3 buildings fall into their foot prints.

Something must be done, we need to pass laws,

 

Save us from these collapsible buildings.

 

Please great overlords we are so helpless, pass the sushi.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:58 | 6921289 buzzsaw99
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<--- chinese bearings

<--- high speed but couldn't afford bearings

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:16 | 6921406 Consuelo
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Thank goodness they weren't the Do-Chen variety...

 

 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 12:17 | 6921735 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ex-ZH blogger Do Chen Bearings, was that you?

Did your 'balls' have a bearing on this incidence?

;-)

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:55 | 6921260 krispkritter
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Should be the USS Detroit?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:55 | 6921261 Normalcy Bias
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Milwaukee's Best!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:37 | 6921555 Kirk2NCC1701
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Hmmm, can't help but wonder if there will now be an additional Maintenance/Repair Contract being issued.

In which case, it means another sales commission, more cashflow for L-M.  Bullish.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:55 | 6921263 One And Only
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Hmmm. Read the title and immediately thought of Obamacare and the website. 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 11:00 | 6921302 Rainman
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The ship was truly unstoppable until .gov got its hands on it "

         .....  Lockheed CEO

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:55 | 6921268 Herdee
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Fight who? And why create your own enemies on behalf of corrupt politicians?Why engage in foreign wars against the advice of the founding fathers of the United States?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 10:56 | 6921273 xavi1951
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Shite happens.  Better now than when it is in the middle of the Atlantic.

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