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Is VIX Heading Back To 40 This Week?

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For the first time since August 2008, high-yield bond 'VIX' is greater than US equity 'VIX'. The 1-month implied vol of HYG has surged over 21 - its highest since October 2011. The last time credit's volatility surged above stocks like this, VIX quickly accelerated well beyond 40, pricing in the increased business risk. Furthemore, just as we saw in July/August, the cost of protecting equity markets is beginning to accelerate up to the surging cost of protecting credit markets. Both credit levels and risk suggest VIX is going notably higher.

 

Deja vu all over again from August (note this is High yield bond option-adjusted spread as opposed to CDX as to avoid the roll dislocation). Equity markets ignored credit's risk just as they did in July and August... until they snapped...

 

Furthermore,For the first time since 2008, credit volatility is above equity vol.

 

The last time this happened, VIX rapidly exploded as credit market volatility increased business risk.

 

Charts: Bloomberg

 

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Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:25 | 6922891 BlueStreet
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Seatbelts fastened, let's go. ZH called s&p 1800 over weekend so VIX 40 makes sense. 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:36 | 6922941 DetectiveStern
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We all know what comes next.

Yellen lowers by .25%. Ben Bernanke's head explodes, SP500 at 2,500 by Christmas. 

Fact.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:06 | 6923053 Sudden Debt
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Something is about to happen.

And it's pretty simple actually.

There are a shitload of shorts that have become profitable and as of wednesday, most of them will roll them over into the next 3 to 4 months.

So that will first cause a spike on wednesday followed by a possible dump. Unless they only roll them over by friday if yellen doens't confirm the rate hike.

The markets will keep going down for the next few months but the real bust will be 3 to 4 months from now.

And now, a lot more calls will be written making the next possible crash even a bigger problem.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:28 | 6923163 spastic_colon
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the other day ES was down like 6 points but the VIX was up almost 6 points to 23.....i keep saying new record high on ES by EOY on relief rally.....then into EOQ1 will be sold.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 18:15 | 6923289 johngaltfla
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Bear Porn Warning.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:29 | 6923169 spastic_colon
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not gonna happen

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:26 | 6922892 Rainman
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It 3:30 ... now watch this ramp shot !

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:29 | 6922910 ThroxxOfVron
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These bukkake flicks always end the same way.

Adjust your goggles and tighten the belts on your raincoats people...  

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:34 | 6922935 Bernoulli
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Seatbelts firmly buckled. No take off yet. What's happenin'??

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:38 | 6922948 DetectiveStern
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Goldman are about to make a few dollars.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:27 | 6922899 eurogold
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About time my VIX calls did something

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:28 | 6922905 wmbz
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2016 sounds like a good year to introduce 100 year generational mortgages, an 10 year car loans!

Gotta get the how much a month crowd out consuming MOAR!

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:29 | 6922906 christiangustafson
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A 12-handle by New Year's Eve is more likely.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:29 | 6922908 Thisisbullishright
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VIX and my UVXY are getting bitch slapped today!!

 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:33 | 6922924 Mr. Schmilkies
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Vexing VIX may violently vault, visibly vascillate, or vomit voluminously. 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:38 | 6922949 arbwhore
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More likely the HUI breaks 105 completing a H&S pattern targeting 70. Gold sub $900?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:40 | 6922963 gmak
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Hello?  Have you met the Algos?  VIX will go down faster than a crack whore jonesing.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:43 | 6922977 stateside
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But, but, but the Santa Claus rally.  For Christ sake think of the kids.  We need our million dollar bonuses to donate it to charity.  Please Janet - think of the children.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:45 | 6922983 Reference Variable
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Bought UVXY last year, lost 80%. Piece of shit ETF. VIX is manipulated. Don't be dumb. Don't buy this.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:23 | 6923143 Brooks_Orpington
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And UGAZ still has $342 million in AUM.  Only 99.5% decay on that one.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:34 | 6923192 SQUIDHELMET
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Contango, dumbass. Never hold UVXY more than 8 weeks. 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:49 | 6923226 Crocodile
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Better to have said "live & learn; do not hold such instruments more than 6-12 weeks".  No need to act like an ass; we all are learning and learn best from our mistakes.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:54 | 6923230 SQUIDHELMET
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Yeah but I'm not a 1500s street urchin in Stratford-on-Avon. Dismissing something because you actively chose not to understand it is the pinnacle of dumbassery in my book. 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:54 | 6923231 SQUIDHELMET
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Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:35 | 6923193 SQUIDHELMET
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edit: doublepost

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:54 | 6923225 Crocodile
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ZeroHedge had several articles this year & last about the fact that 90% of people or more loose on the VIX/VXX because of the NY FED consistent manipulations.

 

I found one of several, but this is sufficient.

"What Happens When You Run Out Of VIX To Short?"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-27/what-happens-when-you-run-out-v...

 

About the NY FED - Simon Potter's Hate-Hate Relationship With The VIX

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-31/simon-potters-hate-hate-relatio...

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 19:34 | 6923567 City_Of_Champyinz
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Its a loser if nothing bad happens, I have lost too but it is only a matter of time.  Besides, this should never be held long term unless you are OK with losing so you should only be using your casino cash for this.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:56 | 6923022 Crocodile
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The NY FED is in charge of the volatility and that is why the VXX did not jump past 30 today; went at or near 24 and that is too much given the week we are in.  Just watch the Gold slamming because it coincides (with few exceptions) with the volatility and inverse to the market.  Therefore if Gold spikes overnight and nothing happens at 8:30 (NY open) to bring it down then the markets are going higher.

 

If the PM's are spiked lower, then markets are going up and volatility down. (Few exceptions)

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:06 | 6923068 BSHJ
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Based on what you said, if PMs spike either higher or lower, stocks are going up and volatility down....in other words, stocks are going up no matter what metals do?

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:11 | 6923082 Crocodile
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Thanks for the correction; the last word on the first word should be replaced with the phrase "try to go lower"; not higher.  Thanks.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:12 | 6923092 Crocodile
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CORRECTION

The NY FED is in charge of the volatility and that is why the VXX did not jump past 30 today; went at or near 24 and that is too much given the week we are in.  Just watch the Gold slamming because it coincides (with few exceptions) with the volatility and inverse to the market.  Therefore if Gold spikes overnight and nothing happens at 8:30 (NY open) to bring it down then the markets are going TO TRY TO GO LOWER.

 

If the PM's are spiked lower, then markets are going up and volatility down. (Few exceptions)

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:58 | 6923028 BSHJ
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VIX heading to 40 like today was supposed to be a huge down day.....not.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 16:58 | 6923030 Osmium
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Is VIX Heading Back To 40 This Week?

The short answer would be NO

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:02 | 6923045 1835jackson
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I got 99 problems but the VIX aint one.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:32 | 6923181 Ms No
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In order to answer that question we would have to ask someone who meets at the Tower of Basel. 

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 17:32 | 6923185 BigRedRider
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When the VIX hits 75 like back in 08, I'll quiver...until then...ZOOM TO THE MOON, ALICE.

Mon, 12/14/2015 - 18:57 | 6923430 peu peu moxi
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Mon, 12/14/2015 - 19:13 | 6923481 peu peu moxi
Mon, 12/14/2015 - 20:08 | 6923709 Saddam Miser
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This time is different.  >.>

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