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The Unexpected Explanation How "That Ford Truck" Ended Up In ISIS Hands
Almost exactly a year ago, the media world was abuzz when as we reported then, a picture posted by Ansar al-Din Front, an Islamic extremist brigade, and which promptly went viral showed a Ford F250 truck with a "Mark-1 Plumbing" decal on the door and a militant standing in the bed firing the anti-aircraft gun.
And while most moved on quickly from this story, for one person the picture had a dramatic and scarring effect: the owner of said Mark-1 Plumbing company, a Texan by the name of Mark Oberholtzer, who as many know by now, is suing a Texas Ford dealership (Charlie Thomas Gord) for more than $1 million in financial losses and damages to his company's reputation, as a result of this pickup truck which he once owned, ending up with Islamic militants fighting in Syria's civil war.
As CNN summarizes, "all Mark Oberholtzer wanted to do was upgrade his ride. What he got instead was a world of trouble from half a world away."
"By the end of the day, Mark-1's office, Mark-1's business phone, and Mark's personal cell had received over 1,000 phone calls from around the nation," Oberholtzer's lawyer wrote in the lawsuit, filed December 9 in Harris County, Texas. "These phone calls were in large part harassing and contained countless threats of violence, property harm, injury and even death."
Oberholtzer said this wouldn't have happened if the dealership had just removed the decals before the truck was resold, as he had demanded, thus serving as the basis for his lawsuit (attached below).
But while we commiserate with Mr. Oberholzer, and wish him prompt restitution of damages as a result of unnecessary harassment, a far more important question is just how did Mark's 2005 Ford F250 Super Duty end up in under the control of the Islamic State.
The answer would be critical, as it will provide a factual, tracable answer how it is that ISIS is if not funded (we know already revealed a critical part of that story), then supplied with equipment and perhaps weapons.
The answer is stunning.
This is what the plaintiff states in his lawsuit:
According to a CARFAX Vehicle History Report (see Exhibit B), the vehicle was listed as a dealer vehicle sold at a Texas auto auction on November 11, 2013. On December 18, 2013 the vehicle was exported from Houston, Texas and imported to Mersin, Turkey.
And here is the proof straight from CARFAX, provided in Exhibit B of Oberholzer's lawsuit:
And the transaction history, with the relevant final clue highlighted:
Presenting Mersin, Turkey, a stone's throw from the infamous port of Ceyhan and about a hundred miles from the territory of the Islamic State:
Here is what happened:
- On October 23, 2013, Mark Oberholtzer entered into a transaction with Charlie Thomas Ford, in which he traded-in his old 2005 Ford F-250 pickup truck for a newer 2012 Ford F-250 pickup truck.
- Promptly thereafter, the vehicle was listed as a dealer vehicle sold at a Texas auto auction on November 11, 2013
- Less than a month later, on December 18, 2013 the vehicle was exported from Houston, Texas and imported to Mersin, Turkey.
- Less than a year later it was in the documented possession of the Islamic State.
So once again the "missing link" supplying ISIS emerges as none other than Turkey.
For those to whom the Turkey-ISIS connection comes as a surprise, we urge you to reread:
- Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey's President
- ISIS Oil Trade Full Frontal: "Raqqa's Rockefellers", Bilal Erdogan, KRG Crude, And The Israel Connection
- Russia Presents Detailed Evidence Of ISIS-Turkey Oil Trade
And while NATO-member Turkey supplying ISIS with funding, supplies, weapons or equipment is hardly groundbreaking news, the Ford "clue" poses new and important questions, such as:
- who is the Turkish party that ordered and paid for the Ford truck's transfer to Turkey, and subsequently received compensation from the Islamic State in the subsequent resale?
- which is the US party which transacts with Turkish counterparts, who ultimately ship US products to Islamic State fighters?
- is the US party aware that its Turkish counterparty has dealings with ISIS
- what is the role of the US government in all of this, because it would be surprising that an administration that has sworn it would crack down on all outside assistance to the Islamic State would be unaware that "made in the USA" trucks ended up in the Islamic State by way of its faitful NATO ally, Turkey.
- how many other such vehicles sold in the US and exported to Turkey, have made their way to the Islamic State
We are confident that it will be relatively easy for any aspiring reporter to track down the US-based exporter of the Ford truck (and thus recipient of Turkish funds), just as it will be facile to uncover who was the Turkish buyer who signed the receipt invoice in Mersin, Turkey. What may be more difficult to uncover is whether the governments of the US and Turkey, respectively, were or are appraised about transactions such as this one, and if not, then why not?
We hope to be able to answer as many of the above as possible in the very near future.
The full Oberholtzer vs Charlie Thomas Ford lawsuit is below.
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Free advertising for Plumber, maybe ISIS is need crapper repair?
ISrael Bought it to commit more terrorism with their proxy ISIS?
RIPS
the two faced cocksuckers(turkey)...
...so they can suck two at the time.
Somewhat off topic but just came across this on another thread, if true it explains a lot:
"I wish the American People had access to LTC Vladimir Putin's CIA dossier, like I had during my time with DIA, in the early 70's.
All the US propaganda, about Putin is total BS.
Putin was not your typical KGB type and was constantly criticized for refusing to join The Communist Party, and for being an Russian Orthodox Christian.
In fact, prior to enrolling in Military College, he spent almost a year studying for the Priesthood, as his whole family, were devout Russian Orthodox Christians.
If he hadn't been one of the best assassins KGB Counter-Intelligence had(36 confirmed Western agents), he would have never, even made the rank of LTC.
The fact he was never a Communist or in the KGB hierarchy, was why Gorbachev named him to Lead The KGB during the conversion from The KGB to The FSB, in 1992.
Purging his old bosses and pundits from The KGB must have been, some fine payback.
----- Disabled US Army Grunt"
That may all be true, but exactly how long has he been the leader of Russia? Was he elected to that position repeatedly?
He's a demagogue. He might be a relatively benevolent one, but that changes little.
All that said, I still have far far far more values in common with Putin than I do with the Chinese communist party, or anyone in the middle east.
Well since you asked, as a matter of fact he was, repeatedly. And he hardly fits the description of demagogue. More like the opposite of.
He's doing a wonderful, wonderful, job. Ask Boris if you don't believe me.
My only question is whether or not that model has the pullout 'MAN STEP' on it?
Would have been easier to claim "photoshop"...
Lets see if even Fox news runs this, I doubt it. I doubt any "Main Streamers" will. Just tells you that they are in the pocket.
in the next few weeks the government will be buying back my 2009 dodge ram, its under mandatory recall i guess mine will be over there as well soon enough
Y’know an 18” steel pipe wrench would make a formidable hand weapon in the hands of an islamist hopped up on Captagon… it would go well with the truck, too.
I returned it to the dealer yesterday because I couldn't get the radio to work. The service technician explained that the radio was voice activated. "Nelson", the technician said to the radio. The radio replied, "Ricky or Willie?" "Willie!" he continued and "On The Road Again" came from the speakers. Then he said, "Ray Charles!", and
in an instant " Georgia On My Mind" replaced Willie Nelson. I drove away happy, and for the next few days, every time I'd say, "Beethoven", I'd get beautiful classical music, and if I said,
"Beatles", I'd get one of their awesome songs. Yesterday, some guy ran a red light and nearly creamed my new Ford truck, but I swerved
in time to avoid him. I yelled, "Ass Hole!" Immediately the radio responded with, "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States ." Damn I love this Ford truck..
Smart truck :-D
But is that a new kind of sewer router they have on the back of that truck in the picture?
Ya it went through Turkey, but who allowed it to be exported to Turkey? I mean, someone on the ground in the US did the legwork.
This is proof .gov is CORRUPT, full of LIES, and SATANIC.
"I bought a new Ford F250 Tri-Flex Fuel Truck. Go figure-- it runs on either hydrogen, gasoline, or E85. "
Well, I bought a F250 Quad flex truck... "it runs on either hydrogen, gasoline, or E85. " ~ or, the courtesy of Fred's 2 feet!
This is nothing! Soviet Era truck is run on vodka. Not so fuel efficient and hard on cylinder, but when you are only have vodka in hand, you are want vehicle that is drive well under influence.
Never mind, Boris is now remind that is drink vodka and forget that truck is not even start. Wake up in ditch.
is bitch.
Damn! Mark-1 Plumbing sure had the right debt collection equipment on their truck.
demagogue: a political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.
synonyms: rabble-rouser, agitator, political agitator, soapbox orator, firebrand, fomenter, provocateur
sounds more like trump or obama, clinton or bush.
I would be happy if that were my truck with my business name and number.
You can't buy this type of advertising.
lol......Keep on Truckin Mamma
Thats such a kike mentality. Making money out of everything, regardless of morals.
Until someone pissed of at muslims goes antiterro on your jew plumber ass:
http://goo.gl/yeXJxB
It's all about making the sale.
Now that we once again have strong evidence what will happen? I recollect the last time (when the Russian defence ministry showed all those nice photos of ISIS convoys and a US drone flying over them) there was a convenient mass shooting within hours. Stay away from crowds and Christmas parties for a day or two.
What about the 3000 tanker trucks? Why doesnt anyone ask where they came from? Probably the same Huston port.
The Drone Master is a facilitator of this mischief I suspect.
Didn't Obama just come out and say that we were creaming ISIS the other day? If so, par for the course is that an attack happens soon after.
"This is proof .gov is CORRUPT, full of LIES, and SATANIC."
Someone actually downvoted this statement. Hilarious.
Not to disagree or be critical but THIS is the proof? I'm sure nope-1004 agrees but for the rest of the peanut gallery how about pretty much ANYTHING from the last 80 years or so with a special concentration on the last 30?
Just sayin'
This is just proof that our CIA overlords like a bargain. They hit Texas auto auctions for deals and steals. C'mon folks figure this one out. Saudi and Israel have not suffered one single incident re: ISIS. What does that TELL YOU? Who needs the Assad regime gone? Who benefits from their neighbors remaining in poltical and social chaos? And why if The Sauds are the ones out there funding Wahabbi crazies, has NONE of their fingerprints EVER been connected to any "terrorist" attacks on Israel? What possible common ground could Israel and The Kingdom (and throw the US in there as well) possibly have in common?
PNAC anybody? Pipeline anybody?
Seriously? It's a ZU-23-2 twin-barreled autocannon. Can unclog up to 8" sewer pipes and works on roots, too.
Also effective for gopher/squirrel removal and neighbor's cat 'issues'.
I did not realize plumbing could be so entertaining.
As long as those ISIL guys don’t let the top of their butt cracks show.
Ford did take bailout money, TARP for one. Also -"Congress decided that the best alternative for Ford was to get funds from the Term Asset-Backed Securities Loan Facility (TALF), which is a government program for auto, student, and other consumer loans. These were very low-cost government loans to the tune of $5.9 billion that helped Ford tip-toe past bankruptcy and overhaul their factories to bring out more fuel-efficient technology". It's easy to do an inet search to find out how they've been helped by the gov't. Which brand of auto is the best, regardlessof criteria, is rather subjective.
In the CarFax document detailing the transit of the vehicle from manufacturing to dealership retail to export there is, of course, one unfortunate detail at the very bottom; that is, 'Vehicle Exporter' is the descriptor given to the business entity whom should have licenesed the exportation of the vehicle across the Atlantic freight traffic.
But, a quick and innocent search through Google™ using 'vehicle exporter Houston, Texas' reveals a few starts:
1. Horizon Auto Shipping, International Automobile & Freight Shipping
2. Kassem Export Corp.
Additionally, within the search results was this story from December 2013: Feds Crack Down on Illegal Vehicle Export Scams in Texas
Within the article there are some important things to note:
1. The federal authorities were harassing the Chinese regarding "illegal" vehicle sales during this month that a Ford F-250 was exported to Turkey and subsequently sold the ISIS
2. Apparently a licensed group can receive funds to purchase cars from foreign banks, including national banks of foreign countries
To wit:
Golden Cheng Auto Group Inc., a company based out of a house near Houston, receives money from banks in China to buy the vehicles, the forfeiture suit said. The company, incorporated in 2012, wired money to Ford so she could buy the Mercedes, court records show.
I begin to wonder...
A search of Kassem Turkawi reveals a LinkedIn account that was removed, a Facebook page that has some Lexus cars, and a suggestion that Mr. Turkawi enjoys a Jordanian musician by the name of Firas Ayoub (more, more, and more). And, Mr. Turkawi does enjoy driving his cars and driving them over the speed limit, per the State of Texas V. Kassem Ishak Turkawi
Sorry. Ford took bailout money - only the pay out was configured differently. Do some research.
https://www.cars.com/articles/2010/12/report-ford-took-federal-funds-too/
The date of export of the truck proves that the creation of ISIS was a planned operation.
damn 'Luciferians' again, right?
Right, how's your "Lucifer" telescope working Pope?
Well you could say Bankster, Satanist, Globalist Oligarch, Illuminati if you like. They're different words for the same group doing evil things around the world.
"Well you could say Bankster, Satanist, Globalist Oligarch, Illuminati if you like"
Naturally, I'd leans towards whichever one of those felt the need to create and fund a global 'Anti Defamation Society' (vis-a-vis the 'Bankster Anti Defamation Society', or the 'Globalist Oligarch Anti Defamation Society').
You and I have been chatting for some time now, you under various aliases. You know whenever this whole global transistion resolves itself however it's going to, we should meet. I bet you're a pretty interesting person.
If I don't talk to before then, Merry Christmas!
CNN has the story with video. I posted a link before Tyler posted this.
Not a single network is anything close to legitimate journalism. ABC, NBC.CBS,FOX, MSNBC, NYT,WSJ....
Entirely corrupt and now a genuinely dangerous liability on society. This nation and increasingly the world are being led into pits by sociopath thugs referred to by this 'media' as 'World Leaders', 'Policy Makers', 'Scientist', 'Experts'....Blah, blah, blah.
The ideological bias is in EVERY case toward this absurd notion of fighting some imminent danger. EVERY one of the so called threats is either a direct result of central planning disease, or an actual false flag driven/pure propaganda initiative run by the State to achieve 'goals'.
Yeah, I bet faux 'news' won't hype this. Nor will clown ass .gov huffpo.
Or any of the other state media.
Why does the media feel it necessary to blur out the facees of Isis members?
I wish they would do that with Yellen
Yea and Hitlery! Block her out for fucks sake
She would be the only Pres Candidate not to appear to be two faced then
Well, there's also me...
"
Is only way to distinguish between ISIS faces and ISIS faeces.
their faces are blurred because the "operators" may not be too middle eastern looking...
True, and how do we know its not the M.E. but the Texas outback?
cia doesnt like having their picture taken
for reference, see that perfect english speaker merc video in mariupol while they were getting the coup ready, saying get that camera out of my face
As with all the statged USA-ISIS-Al-CIA-da-Boogie-man footage.....what the F*&# are they shooting at?
It certainly makes it easier to mount your AA gun bolted to the bed.
Hey...Do you think that is what the fellas in Deerborn had in mind when they engineered that feature?
Putin is arguably the world's most pragmatic leader today.
Amen.
Hey, I up-arrowed you. Some asshole obviously didn't like you giving props to Vlad.
BTW, speaking of truck decals; reminds me of when I had a Jeep Wrangler green, 4-cyl but put the Sahara logo and pinstripes decals on to make it look like the upmarket 6-cyl model. Didn't remove it upon trade in to the Toyota dealer in Atlanta... and the salesman well, decided to cut corners... imagine that.
cha-ching! About 4 grand extra. Win some, win some.
You sound like a banker.
Yes, that is an insult.
Edit: No, I didn't vote.
That reminds me of the pictures that floated around the net about 10 years ago of a guy's corvette, he had Ferrari logos all over it. It was yellow if I remember right.
You can't give an honest assessment of the situation when it comes to Putin these days without people getting emotional and thinking that you're supporting him. The man is smart and is a dangerous opponent. But some jackass probably thinks that means that I want Putin for president. Nope. Too authoritarian for my tastes. If it works for the Russians, then let the Russians have it.
Agreed, but compared to the available field, it's no contest. Putin in 2016. I'll get to work on the t-shirts.
nuubee, as if the West would allow russia to have any kind of genuine democracy. Sheesh, pay attention.
Until and unless the West ceases divide and conquer interventionism it is ridiculous for us to tar any other nation with the 'undemocratic' brush, because for any nation to try representative democracy is to expose its own jugular to the CIA
Amen. Pass the plate.
Democracies are wide open to bankster take downs. What happens to a democratic society when most voters are low-information voters?
"He's a demagogue. He might be a relatively benevolent one, but that changes little."
Perhaps, but hes no Obozo, that I remind you was elected twice by the american people.
Was he elected to that position? WAS HE ELECTED TO THAT POSITION? Look around you! All the weasel-dicks in American politics and European politics were elected to their positions! Obviously, being elected is a sure sign you're a jerk, a dolt, an oaf, a fool and a pluperfect villain!
He's a demagogue! HE'S A DEMAGOGUE? What American politician isn't a demagogue?
Get it straight, Nutbag! No one cares what your opinion is because your obtuseness forfeits the right to have an opinion. You are what I'd call a typical "voter".
rotf...
Hey the guy says he takes the demagogue remark back! Call off the dogs!
"He's a demagogue. He might be a relatively benevolent one, but that changes little."
He's a democrat. He might be a relatively malevolent one, but that changes little.
see the problem
Here in the Islamic State of Amurika, I'd much rather have a benevolent demagogue as president than what we have now. I believe everyone reading this has more in common with the average Russian, Syrian, or Iranian than we have with anyone in our own government. A benevolent Orthodox Christian leading us.....that's some hope and change I could get behind.
Could you provide a source for all that?
I saw the same comment...it was in the comments section of a Yahoo article about Putin's gunsling gait walk...
http://news.yahoo.com/putin-other-ex-kgb-gunslingers-gait-says-study-235...
Gambit, he (Putin) spent almost a year studying for the Priesthood
Thanks. Find that very interesting. Hitler was also involved in chistianaity early on in his life.
Wonder if any here know how fanatic is Putin about his christianity. I mean, is he a lunatic such were Bush and Reagan that believed in Gog and Magog, Armageddon, and bible fanaticism nonsense?
Because, if Putin is, a nuclear war is not so farfetched……You know? The signal of the coming of the messiah in a flying horse.
Tell that this can’t be truth.
Stalin also studied to be a priest in his native Georgia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3d_yxJhmjk
Putin discussing his faith at Midnight Christmas mass in Russia that is 3 hours long as far as I know. He goes to a different church around Russia every Christmas. Either he is the best actor ever or he displays his geniune faith in this video.
He cares about Russia and it's people. Dear God - cannot America, Canada, Western Europe and the UK find someone like this to lead their countries? It appears France may hav the LePen's aka just like they had Joan of Arc.
Lol. What a delightful cognitive dissonance. A devout Christian with seminary aspirations only to end up with a body count of 36 (likely) very personal murders. Which exactly are you adoring him for? Resisting communist party membership in honor of his religious practices, or his willingness to murder in violation of said faith at the behest of the political machine he withheld the token gesture of membership from?
Get your shit together. As evidenced by the amount of approvals your post has accumulated, many others need to as well.
Gambit:
"I wish the American People had access to LTC Vladimir Putin's CIA dossier, like I had during my time with DIA, in the early 70's.
All the US propaganda, about Putin is total BS.
Putin was not your typical KGB type and was constantly criticized for refusing to join The Communist Party, and for being an Russian Orthodox Christian.
In fact, prior to enrolling in Military College, he spent almost a year studying for the Priesthood, as his whole family, were devout Russian Orthodox Christians.
If he hadn't been one of the best assassins KGB Counter-Intelligence had(36 confirmed Western agents), he would have never, even made the rank of LTC.
The fact he was never a Communist or in the KGB hierarchy, was why Gorbachev named him to Lead The KGB during the conversion from The KGB to The FSB, in 1992.
Purging his old bosses and pundits from The KGB must have been, some fine payback.
----- Disabled US Army Grunt"
My comments:
The KGB would never have hired Putin if they had known that he was devout Christian. The Christian Orthodox church was one of the principal enemies of the communist party. During the Interwar period the communists tore down most of the churches in Russia. You can probably easily find information on this subject on the Internet. The KGB also infiltrated the church and recruited informants by using sexual extortion.
However, Putin himself says that his mother was a secret devout Christian and that he was baptized in secret.
I suspect that Putin was hired because he was considered loyal to the government since his great grandfather had been Stalin´s butler. The fact that his best childhood friend was Jewish indicated that his family did not want to restore Czarist rule or something like that. That did probably benefit Putin´s post-communism career in the 1990s.
I suspect that the reason Putin wished to join the KGB was that he was a patriot and that it seemed interesting to be a secret agent. It seems as if he was stationed in Eastern Germany and did not operate in the West. So his tasks don´t seem to have included killing people.
My impression is that Putin is driven by some kind of patriotism and that he considers the Christian Orthodox Church as a part of the Russian legacy. In case he really is a devout Orthodox Christian I suspect that his opponents consider that as a weakness and that he may not be "evil" enough to do what it takes to defend his fellow-countrymen. I´m not sure that Putin really believes in the Christian religion. But I´m 100 % sure that his oppononts do not believe in this religion but rather the very opposite. (Furthermore, I don´t consider Scofield style Christians as Christians and they in turn do not in many cases consider traditional replacement theology Christians as Christians.)
That's a truly excellent comment. I wish I could give you a dozen up-ticks. Putin is a patriot in the true sense of the word: he is concerned to defend Russia from its enemies. He isn't interested in becoming an emperor.
BarnacleBill
“That's a truly excellent comment. I wish I could give you a dozen up-ticks. Putin is a patriot in the true sense of the word: he is concerned to defend Russia from its enemies. He isn't interested in becoming an emperor.”
My comments:
Maybe the Russians should try to clone Putin? If Putin rules until he is 94 years old I guess that the clone would be 30 years at that point and ready to be the new president. :D
That was a joke.
But when Putin is gone I suspect that the risk for 1990s style rule will increase. There is, as far as I can see, no structures that can prevent that. The only realistic contender to the oligarchs would probably be imported Chinese billionaires with Russian passports and an imported Chinese mob working for the Chinese government. That´s probably the only way to challenge the imported mob that ruled Russia in the 1990s, I suspect. Russia doesn´t have a group of domestic origin that can act as a coordinated group in business, media, politics and organized crime like the ones who ruled Russia in the 1990s. No country in Europe or North America has such a group of domestic origin. And that means that they are ruled by others although the organized crime part is no longer an important factor in the US and has never been that in Europe.
Oberholtzer is partly at fault himself. He should have removed ALL markings on the truck HIMSELF.
Nah...Then we wouldn't know where the trucks that ISIS had came from? It was sweet that he didn't remove it or the truth would have remained hidden.
The dealership asked him not to remove the decal just to be sure he wouldn't scratch the paint. They promised to do it themselves prior to resale. That's according to ABC news channel 13, Houston. Don't ever trust a car dealer.
What a way to miss the point.
Olberholtzer was quoted as saying that the dealer instructed him to not remove the decals (that they would remove them) for fear of damaging the paint.
This twitter picture of this truck is fake. Check the video of the same location below:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2876735/How-plumber-s-truck-Texas-ended-hands-Islamic-fighters-lines-Syria.html
Also, if you goggle Isis trucks, I did, you don’t see US trucks, unless stolen from US military/mercenaries which are NOT used trucks.
The lawsuit has no merit. The judge should throw it in the trashcan, if the judge would ask my opinion.
Yes, that's the CIA's response to getting caught red handed. They do that all the time and it looks as if this time they had to create a second image, post it, then try to instill doubt in peoples' minds.
If you fell for it, you're a fucking tool.
If you didn't, because you work for .gov and post really stupid shit here, then that could explain you uneducated viewpoint too.
Either way I downvote you because the garbage that is spewed from your fictional ZH account to sway opinion toward legitimizing corruption is fucking gross. My suggestion is to read the documentation posted above.
Why would the CIA care?
Second, I would never work for any government because I am too independent. I couldn’t take it.
Third, either I am not doing a good job or you are confusing me for another commentator, because I constantly poke fun on corruption, fakeness, and stupidity.
Fourth, the documentation is not the problem. But, even if the documentation were altered, the plumber has no case, because the picture cannot be collaborated. Heck, the plumber could have been the person who produced this picture.
Now you owe me an upvote next time….. even if you don’t agree with my post.
Civil Actions differ from that of Criminal Actions.
In a Criminal Action a proof beyond a reasonable doubt is demanded. But the dealership is not being accused of a crime.
In a Civil Action a PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE is satisfactory to render a judgement.
The truck was shipped to Turkey. The CarFax is evidential of that.
The Truck appears to have been used as an assault Military Vehicle for ISIS.
The Plumber has been receiving unjust harassment.
It is highly unlikely that this plumber staged this.
This is a slam dunk case against the dealership for negligence.
As to the award for damages??? That is the only question that will be disputed in any legal proceeding.
I hope that you never serve on any jury as you are ignorant as to the American Judicial Process.
I may not be an attorney. But I was raised by one.
Actually, now the plumber has a case. I found a second picture of the same truck.
https://malcolmxtreme.wordpress.com/2015/04/25/4252015/
Why would the CIA care?
That you asked this question really tells us that you are not very good at "connect the dots".
I called bullshit on this user 6-8 months ago... and got my ass handed to me in the form of reddies.
Oh well.
In other news - posted in another thread by a ZH'er - the scum Saudis have lost about 10 ships to the Yemeni people aka Houthi.
I thought they were smaller ships but many are destroyer & frigate size. F the Saudis - puppets for IsRi-hell just like Turkey.
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940923001367
Fkn A! The sooner the world realizes who foments all this discord, the better.
HEY!,
you're hurting someone's feelings
don't know who
but.. there has gotta be someone/thing outthere
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Escrava, are saying CarFax is lying about truck's destination?
I said the picture is fake.
That truck being in Turkey means very little. If it’s done legally, that is fine.
Let me give you another example:
Say I come to you and say that your wife is cheating on you.
Then I twitter (just) one picture (zoomed in) that, after you look at it carefully, you realized that looks suspicious.
Then, your best friend came to you and show you the same pictures, as well as movie, but with a different woman on it.
Would you ask your wife for divorce? And sue twitter for $1 million dollars?
Would you?
I've been here long enough to know that YOU are fake.
I wonder if a .gov guy gets all down votes and is completely rejected by a forum, do they get reprimanded or reassigned?
Probably promoted. He'll get a letter of recommendation saying, "If you can get Mike Hunt to work for you, that will be a great accomplishment."
What about the other documentation from the dealer that says it went to Turkey?
MsCreant,
I remember seeing this topic before at Zero Hedge. And back them there were some comments about the sticker on the windshield, and, if I am not mistaking, contradicted the validity of this picture.
Also, ISIS doesn’t use American trucks. I guess because not that many available, price, and parts. Parts are critical because of the terrain and because the way these trucks are used.
But again, I am just guessing out of common sense.
I almost clicked on the tawny kitaen link. But I already know she is drunk and on a handful of Vicodin in Newport Beach somewherez...
For the life of me I can't understand why these ISIS fellows didn't have their local auto body remove this advert.
After the plumber incident you could see the change in the videos emanating from Syria: they had all their paint scraped off. The change was noticeable...
Full allies of the US working to get into the EU, not two-faced at all.
Where did those weapons used in Paris come from?
Oh shit!...It can't be...no way...ANY chance the FRENCH GOVERNMENT supplied those weapons...the odds ain't ZERO!
October 15, 2014
France will keep delivering arms to Kurdish Syrian rebels to fight Islamic State group"The French government will "do everything to help" those fighting against the Islamic State group, especially the Kurds, by delivering "adapted weaponry," Hollande said Wednesday"
Ok statisticians ...what are the odds the weapons used went to Syria and then back to Paris?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/15/france-will-keep-delivering-arms...
Cugir of Romania is currently unable to supply their Romanian made AK rifles to importers in the United States due to "a large military contract to be fullfilled".
Cugir-made WASR's and SAR AK's are often seen in the hands of various "moderate" and radical jihadists in Syria.
Could they be making yet more guns for ISIS? Paid for upfront by, ahem, some large governmental organization?
USA's CIA fits nicely as well!
The bigger question is: Of all [nearer] places from which they could have imported trucks, WHY the US??? Who was facilitating it? The CIA?
The first thing an intelligence agency would have done when they see such a photo should have been to follow the breadcrumbs, question and possibly charge those involved...but of course if you wouldn't do that if you are to implicate yourself. C'mon, CIA, FBI, Homeland...please own up. Who had instructed you to look the other way? We need names....NOW!! *waterboarding*
If the CIA didnt buy and ship it themselves directly just running it through (ally) Turkey to get it in theatre quickly.
We know ISIS has the truck. We dont know exactly how they got the truck. Maybe they bought it, maybe it was gifted to them, maybe they stole it.
We do know someone bought it at an auction and then shipped it to turkey.
I would think a person in Turkey would have less expensive options for a used F250 4x4 type truck. Mercedes, Fiat, Volvo are all made much closer to turkey than Houston, TX. It doesn't make sense to buy and ship somthing with out local dealer support or locally available spare parts. Smells like month old fish.
It was probably shipped out by our WWIII enthusiasts with a bunch of other supplies, like Humvee and M1 Abram parts, and maybe a couple dozen used tractor trailers to pull oil tankers.
We all know the world is awash in excess vehicles. There have been fly-by-night businesses come and go that specifically take used vehicles and resell them in the third world (africa specifically). One of these companies (ACLN, ticker ASW) was taken public circa 2000-2001 with no finer a bank than JP Morgan doing the underwriting. With ACLN, it turned out the business was a scam, the CEO mysteriously vanished overseas, and the ~27ish year old CFO was left Stateside to take the fall. But that didnt stop the equity research analyst from putting a 'BUY' rating on it. Anyway, the business model of selling used cars from the 1st world into the 3rd world has existed for a while . . .
"awash"?
now there's a five-dollar word;-)
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It couldn't be Marco Rubio's billionaire backer, Norman Braman, cause his car dealerships focus on Florida, right?
Rubio is also a Soros and Zuckerberg puppet along with Paul Ryan.
Maybe ZH could get the auction sale records(all bidders must register) before the office fire.
I predict a quick settlement before the discovery phase gets underway. For an undisclosed sum. With a proviso that Mr. Oberholzer never speak of this matter again. . .
The US State Department is on record for providing vehicles to Syrian rebel groups. Presenting: Hiltary Clinton, your next, and probably last, President of the United Soviet States of Amerika.
The obvious question to answer and investigate is who was the bidder at the auction who bought the truck and shipped it?
Clearly the path from the USA to Turkey to ISIS for a fucken TRUCK was cleared by "someone" with some very good connections.
The path between here and there should be pretty easy for the FED's to follow; but my guess is "They're tired of hearing about Obama's ISIS Trucks!".
Wow what a coincidence. There is a huge Toyota plant in San Antonio 200mi west of Houston. Just one of those things I guess.
What seems more amazing is that a Ford would come out of a Toyota factory. The coincidences abound!
For the mentally impaired such as yourself, the significance of the Toyota factory near Houston is in regards to the long line of white Toyota pickup trucks in the early ISIS fotos.
As in "gee, I wonder where THOSE came from".
Ive heard that Turkey recently made a purchase of 10,000 directly from Toyota
Do they know he carried pig heads in the back?
No problem as long as they were Zionist and kosher pig heads.
Free advertising for Plumber, maybe ISIS is need crapper repair?
I would'nt bitch to "Angies List" about the bad job he did on my pipes with that hardware in the back..
Have you militarized a Ford Lately?
* Ford commericials use to end with "Have you driven a Ford lately?"
For those playing in the middle east:
Ford Ackbar!
There's a Bob Segar song in here somewhere - "Like Iraq.."
That truck would not have been shipped alone, there would have been several other (if not many) vehicles in that shipment to justify the freight expense. Carfax needs to see what other records indicate Turkey as a destination.
cue the Ford commercial...
MILITARY GRADE lol
as I like to joke with my fellow car buddies, "just show me the carfax"...
So WHO PAID for it?
WHO had it shipped?
WHO received it?
So seriously fundamental investigative questions not asked or answered.
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A real Harris County man would have contatcted Joe Jamail about this matter !!
Turkey was intructed to buy it for Israel to create more proxy terror through their patsy ISIS?
RIPS
Don't mess with...
...TURKEY
gimme $500 on putin...
Mark-I plumbing is now a multinational
...and on US terrors watch lists.
I think that's Mark-1, as in Mark-One or Mk-1, or Mk1
Sort of off topic:
But today I just realized that Jihad and Mein Kampf literally mean the same thing.
Now who do I know act like Nazis?
Barry?
lol...
methinks you killed his little thread-jack attempt.
Actually Struggle (EN), Lucha (SP) and Lutte (FR) and Jihad (AR) and Kampf (GE) all mean the same thing.
What's your point?
Oh, never mind.
The others aren't part of an idealogue that believes in genocide?
Hitler wrote Mein Kampf which most Germans read at the time and Islamists are always talking about Jihad.
I think you mean "ideology". Anyway, there's no support to the fallacy that Hitler supported Genocide. He was actually working with the Zionists to repatriate all Jews out of Germany to wherever. Could be called ethnic cleansing perhaps. But then there goes your argument about Jihad. Jihad (struggle) is just an arabic word. There's not a wee bit of implication for "ethnic cleansing" or genocide.
Also there were Jewish troops - senior, decorated even - in the Wehrmacht. Look it up. Can't have that and genocide together. Difficult.
"most Germans" and "all Islamists". Your arguments are shallow. Move along.
BTW, Jihad was started by the USA son. As a rallying cry for fighters to help out against the Soviets in Afghanistan. Nothing related at all to Genocide, again. The connotations can be varied.
You do know by the way, that Arabs use Arabic words, don't you? So if they want to say "struggle" they sure ain't going to say "kampf". Or lutte.
Get a grip.
Right. Those Jews went to those camps and starved and poisoned themselves to death just to prove a point.
Retard.
WAIT! I thought the correct story was that the jews actually made lampshades out of themselves. You know, just like the 'witches', back in the day, used to build bridges out of themselves?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU
lol!!!! I'm dying. No, it was pillows. They were turned into pillows for German wives. And paper weights (shruken heads).
Now which is it... did they starve themselves as you say, or did they get gassed with (an insecticide for lice) Zyklon-B or did they get tossed en masse into the ovens?
Jewish census for Europe: 9.4M before the war, 9.2M after. Fast baby makers those.
9.4 million-9.2 million = 6 million.
The new math.
Maybe they should have counted the lampshades instead.
http://blog.cleveland.com/onstage_impact/2008/12/medium_story1203.jpg
Now you know!
Then again, The Jewish World Congress declared war on Germany in 1938.
Hundreds of 'work camps' with thousands of people, mostly Jews, are contradictory to the claim of gas/incineration mechanized genocide.
(This is illegal to say in Europe.)