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Will 'Elites' Blow Up The GOP?
Submitted by Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org,
“Buchanan, if you ever hear of a group getting together to stop X, be sure to put your money on X.”
So, Richard Nixon told me half a century ago, after he had been badly burned in just such a futile and failed enterprise.
It was the Cleveland Governors Conference of 1964.
Sen. Barry Goldwater had just defeated Gov. Nelson Rockefeller in the final and decisive winner-take-all primary in California.
As the story is told, Stu Spencer, Rocky’s man in California, had come to his candidate and said, “Governor, I think it’s time to call in the Eastern establishment.”
To which Rocky replied, “You’re looking at it, buddy. I’m all that’s left!”
Rocky was cooked. But then the panicked Republican governors gathered in Cleveland — Rockefeller, George Romney of Michigan, William Scranton of Pennsylvania — to plot a path to deny Goldwater the nomination he and his conservative insurgents had won.
Nixon was invited, and, according to Romney, privately urged him to get into the race. Nixon denied it.
The governors, and Goldwater himself, suspected Nixon was pushing Romney onto the tracks to derail his bandwagon. And, presumably, after Romney had been run over, the convention, to heal the bleeding wound, would turn to a centrist compromise candidate — Nixon.
“Nixon is sounding more and more like Harold Stassen every day,” said Goldwater. Nixon pivoted swiftly to repair the damage, offered to introduce Goldwater to the convention, did so in a brilliant speech, then campaigned harder for Mr. Conservative than did Barry himself.
And while Nixon enlisted in Goldwater’s campaign, Rockefeller, Romney and Scranton, arrogantly refusing to accept defeat graciously, crippled any chance Goldwater might have had by demanding that the platform condemn the John Birch Society as equally extreme as the Communist Party and Ku Klux Klan.
The party said no. And the establishment cut Barry dead in the fall.
Thus did the GOP establishment earn the eternal enmity of the right.
And thus did Richard Nixon emerge in 1968 as the first choice of Barry Goldwater and the centrist Republican most acceptable to the conservative movement. The rest, as they say, is history.
* * *
Which brings us to that dinner last week at The Source on Capitol Hill where Republican Party elites discussed how Donald Trump, even if he wins the lion’s share of votes and delegates, might be denied the nomination in a “brokered convention.”
The absurdity of such a conspiracy would be matched only by its stupidity.
Has the GOP establishment learned nothing from history?
Deadlocked conventions — like the 1924 Democratic convention, which went on for 104 ballots — virtually ended with the elimination, by FDR’s party in 1936, of the two-thirds rule for nomination.
That rule kept ex-President Martin Van Buren, who could not muster 67 percent of the delegates, from capturing the nomination in 1844.
After eight deadlocked ballots in a three-way contest, that Baltimore convention turned to a “dark horse,” Speaker James K. Polk, who promised immediate annexation of Texas by the United States and that he would take us to war with Mexico to guarantee it.
With the two-thirds rule dead, the only way to have a convention without a nominee on the first ballot is a three- or four-way split in delegates.
But assume at the GOP convention in Cleveland that Trump runs first, Ted Cruz second, Marco Rubio third and Ben Carson fourth.
Rather than wait for Karl Rove & Co. to tell us whom the party shall nominate, Trump would phone Cruz, offer him second spot on the ticket in return for his delegates, and if Cruz declined, ask for Rubio’s phone number.
Candidates who have gone through a yearlong campaign, and sustained the defeats and suffered the abuse, are not going to let a Beltway cabal decide the nominee.
Carson has already warned he will walk away from the party if such a decision were imposed upon the convention.
Moreover, the old establishments are dead. Conservatives killed the GOP establishment in 1964. The Vietnam War and George McGovern killed the Democratic establishment in 1972.
What is left are elites, collectives of officeholders past and present, donors, lobbyists, think-tankers angling for jobs, party hacks and talking heads.
What the Republican collectivity has to realize is that it is they and the policies they produced that are the reason Trump, Carson and Cruz currently hold an overwhelming majority of Republican votes.
It was the elites of both parties who failed to secure our borders and brokered the trade deals that have de-industrialized America and eviscerated our middle class.
It was the elites of both parties who got us into these idiotic wars that have blown up the Middle East, cost us trillions of dollars, thousands of dead, and tens of thousands of wounded among our best and bravest.
That Republican elites would sit around a dinner table on Capitol Hill and discuss how to frustrate the rising rebellion against what they have done to America, and decide among themselves who shall lead us, is astonishing.
To borrow from the Gipper, they are not the solution to our problems. They are the problem.
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Yes.
Nice to watch the GOP blow up.
Fuck the GOP. Go to hell.
Fuck the entire establishment that has put their own priorities ahead of the country's.
PAY CLOSE ATTENTION !!
Listen to what TPTB are gradually beginning to say!
They’re starting to talk NICE about Ted Cruz… they’re saying things like: “He has a coherent message” or “He’s maturing into a statesman.”
They’re so scared of Trump, they’d even allow CRUZ to win the nomination.
WATCH AND LISTEN !…
TPTB are freaking out.
And Trump will also....very, very soon.
The Trump Legerdemain: How Ted Cruz is Using Donald Trump to Win the NominationExactly (tc06rtw)! Very astute observation! They know that anybody other than Trump will need money after the primary season-and, if they will need money, they can be bought and controlled. This really has nothing to do with the RNC or the DNC as they are all bought and paid for as well. This is about the moneyed powers and what they want. They know they can not control Trump so they will try to make another candidate into somebody that seems like Trump. That somebody else will need money and therefore can and will be controlled.
Cruz is a Goldman Sachs stooge.
They took over the Tea Party knowing that you'd support a wimp that occasionally makes Tea Party-ish noises like Trump or Cruz and that's exactly what you're gonna do...
Ted Cruz might be the only GOP candidate even worse than Hitlery.
There's no question that Hitlery is the daughter of Satan and the bride of the Anti-Christ.
That means Ted Cruz is probably the son of Satan or perhaps even Satan himself.
If you accept the argument that the same Special Interests control the Republicans and Democrats, and can only lose if Trump becomes President, a logical conclusion is the Republicans will force Trump to run as an Independent, thus throwing the win to the Democrats.
If for some reason Trump wins anyway, I suspect they have a Kennedy-Type plan B
The clintons were at Donald trumps wedding.i think he goes Independent and Hitlery slides in..... Not what I want but let's wait and see
Cruz's wife works for Goldman Sachs. He'll do what he's told.
They've been the RINOP so long that the name GOP is meaningless anyway.
It's a gonne be Cruz v. Clinton for all the money.
I won't be voting.....
The arrogant fossilized republicant PTB & their bullsht control freak behavior need to be sent directly to hell along w the fudgepacker.
>>> TRUMP OR
>>> ANYONE ELSE
None of the Above.
I refuse to give Die-Bulled my vote to flip!!
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https://www.eurgold.de/silver/silver-coins/
Now we know, it only takes, one asshole to fill the EurGold Hall....
Gee, just 8 weeks on ZH and now trolling your 12 euro silver scam???? You've already been busted for this just a couple months ago dude. Get lost scumbag.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1218804
Don't buy anything from these assholes or you'll lose whatever you paid and will have no way to get it back. You have been warned.
Hopefully the Tyler's ban these fuckers from the site quick.
The R's and D's are in on it together. The descrution of the R's will usher in NWO faster.
Trump is playing his role to unsher in the NWO....poor sheep still believe in red vs blue.....fucking hopeless and clueless.
The 'Elites' will blow up the world. (they can BLOW ME while they're at it).
The Pope buggers bums like all Roman Catholic Priests on the payroll
at Caligula U.
Whigs vs Patriots, Round II. So yes, they probably will.
Um, the Whigs actually were the Patriots.
Uh...yer thinkin of Tories dude.
Fed up with politics.....
Fed up with liars, corruption and politicians beholden to corporations, special interest groups, big money, and not the US taxpayers, citizens.
Fed up with neocon warmongongers in both parties that are pushing US foreign policy and NATO towards WWIII and the death of the planet.
See today's news, John Kerry can't take a trip to Russia without that disgusting neocon cunt Victoria Nuland.
Fed up with these same morons consistantly feeding us GW bullshit as though this will matter during a 20,000 year long nuclear winter.
Fed up with anything "politically correct" and spineless politicians that are too afraid to say what they really feel. Fed up with trillions of our hard earned taxpayer dollars going to countries that hate us. Like hundreds of millions of dollars going to so-called moderate maggots that will "next week" give this money to Al Queda or ISIS when they switch alliances. These same politicians giving away our money to maggots don't give a shit that veterans are homeless and that Social Security will be bankrupt for baby boomers.
Fed up with politicians that feel they are "dynastically entitled" to be president. Bush & Clinton!
Fed up with business as usual in Washington, DC.
This is why I am voting for Donald!
TRUMP 2016
Awesome, and when he doesn't get the nomination (all pre-planned) and goes 3rd party (all pre-planned by him too) and then you still vote for him, I'll thank you when Hillary is sworn in.
Still think voting matters ?
good for you!
No, I don't which is why I don't, but for people to believe in voting for Trump is just sad and desperate.
Trump is a plant/puppet/entertainer/money whore that has been hired (probably by Soros) to help user in the NWO.
All by design.
Trump is, by any measure, a loud buffoon. Ten years ago, he would have been laughed out of the race within weeks of declaring his candidacy. However, his popularity today is a fairly accurate measure of just how messed up the American political landscape has become. If people thought the Obama campaign of 2008 was about "hope and change," it's got nothing on 2016.
Trump is what happens when everything goes to hell and the political establishment seems to delight in taking a shit on the American people. How bad are things in this country? Voters are so desperate to change a failed system that they might put a reality TV star in the White House. Many of them feel like this is their last chance to "fix" the United States. Donald Trump is the electoral equivalent of a Hail Mary pass for many Americans.
I think he clearly embodies the vast majority of Americans. Petulent, selfish, boastful and insecure.
Truly a man of the people. At least theeeese people.
I haven't seen a decent candidate in my adult life. Probably never will.
Right idea, wrong guy. "Petulant, selfish, boastful, insecure" sounds a lot more like the current Resident of the White House-- a guy who has had every single thing handed to him on a silver platter, and has accomplished exactly nothing.
For an "insecure" and "boastful" guy, Trump sure seems to nail some major pussy, even with the terrible haircut. And how about the $10 billion he's accumulated-- not really the usual byproduct of an "insecure" person.
Last decent presidents:
Republican - Coolidge
Democrat - Cleveland
(JFK - unknown)
Cue WB7 with Trump in a Camacho wig and a pimp stick....
Voting does matter (most of the time). The problem is that over 95% of the people don't understand the intricacies voting process. In terms of presidential elections- the primaries matter more than general, precisely because the general is usually a head to head match up of the One Party's selected ass wipes, because the stupid plebes thought voting didn't matter during primary season, so the Party elite get their candidate.
But just like in the general election (where the peasants are actually voting for electors to the electoral college) in the primaries the peasants are voting delegates to the convention.
Every state can be different (within the rules dictated by the Party elite) but generally after the first ballot- the delegates aren't bound to support the candidate they were elected by the plebes to vote for... Buchannan can rant against a brokered convention against Trump, but he knows DAMN WELL that any pledge of delegates by Cruz or Rubio, is exactly that - a candidate's pledge, and not in any way binding upon those who actually cast the votes that matter... Leaving the Bush and Romney henchmen free to helidrop fiat, or promises worth even less, on the delegates...
The plebes will never defeat the patricians at the ballot box because they don't even understand the rules of the actual game.
Locally, maybe, but only because the fuckers must live in the mess they create...
Fuckers in D.C. are above any law.
You vote in every single election, period.
And, like all other non-participants, mark you ballot for "Any of the Above".
If you have an alternative in mind, let's hear it and let's also hear how you are practicing what you preach.
Voting for someone means, Hey, you, you can rule over me - I give you consent. If you vote you can not complain ever, you gave up that right when you voted. When i don't vote I can complain because I did not give anyone consent to rule over me.
No, you give EVERYONE consent to rule over you.
Why? Because you live by their rules, no matter who they are.
You aren't up in the mountains or out in the woods playing Robin Hood or Sitting Bull. You're meekly sending in whatever contributions they tell you to provide and refraining from whatever actions they tell you to refrain from. In return, you take the benefits they offer as recompense.
So long as you live in their society under their rules, you have consented in practice no matter how much you complain about it in theory.
You want to go all Ghandi on them, hey, I hear you. But you're gonna need help to pull that off. Which means that somebody will have to elect the ultimate leader of the cause. Now how do you go about doing that?
"It was the [strike]elites[/strike] zionist talmud lovin' insurgency in American government of both parties who got us into these idiotic wars that have blown up the Middle East, cost us trillions of dollars, thousands of dead, and tens of thousands of wounded among our best and bravest."
Fixed it.
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This time is different ...you'll get either a real billionaire or a billionaire's proxy. Either way the little people are fukked ..as usual.
the 28 year 3rd party anti establishment cycle .. 1964, goldwater .. + 28 = 1992, Ross Perot + 28 = 2016 .. Donald Trump.
3rd time's a charm.
Armstrong's model as he got the cycle
= 2016, Donald Trump + 28 ... and the Queen arrives at the coronation and we lose America for a generation
If Hitlery gets in we lose America FOREVER...
You guys kill me with these uneducated cherry-picking astrologers masquerading as statisticians.
Apparently, none of you have heard of John Anderson (1980), which did not derail Reagan's run (as if he was the Establishment choice!) or Ralph Nader (2000) which did put the kibosh on Sacred Al Gore.
And what about the most famous Third Party run of all?
Former President Theodore Roosevelt's 1912 campaign as the "Bull Moose", which threw the country into the arms of Woodrow Wilson.
Let's see... 1912 + 28 = 1940 Nothing there. 1912 + 28 + 28 = 1968 Nothing there.
reading Turd Blossom's book?
Nice Math........2020
The elites only care about those who take a bribe....
and they all do.
"Will" they?!?!? That's some funny shit right there. Look, we all know that RED=BLUE.
Welcome to another neofuedal period!
get long guillotines and sharecropping, beat the rush!!!
blowing up is a two way process : top down and BOTTOM UP !
If the center of "we the poeple" don't control anarchical populism and oligarchical elitism then they deserve what they get...thats History.
Both lead to the same place : Despotism.
RNC/DNC one in the same.
This single party system is finally starting to wobble a little.
The RNC is shitting their pants, they don't want Cruz or Trump. The DNC has a true piece of lying shit for their pick.
Nobody likes the bitch, unless they are paid to, and then they still can't stand her. She will get the bull dyke vote though!
The so called "elite" can kiss my ass.
>>>The so called "elite" can kiss my ass.
Perhaps the most depressing thing about American oligarchs is their lack of style.
At least Genghis Khan and the Nazis had a certain panache.
I suppose the public oligarch-puppets have to spend their entire life lying, and this takes a toll on the poor dears.
And the less said about Al Gore, the better.
I figure the bankers/elitists/archons are going to put the hammer down and murder billions of people over the next few years and they figure Trump is a good guy to pin it all on... and then they toss his not quite dead corpse into a shark tank.
They of course could not have foreseen any of their own plans ... just a whole flock of black swans.
Fuck 'em all. Take the day off and go to the range
+1000 just for the name . I love that place! Burbon too
Face it, they are all klowns, losers, flunkies, a disgrace to the founding principles of America. Trump, not as much because of his hutzpah. I don't hear any of those listed slamming Wall St. and the FED and the control it has over DC and the rest of the country. Likewise, I don't hear them calling out the ranks of their war party being subjegated to the strong arm of the military-industrial complex. These are key issues and they avoid them like the plague. Are any of them cluing us in as to who is maintaining support for ISIS? How about discussing the so called free society under the NSA, IRS, EPA, etc. Rand Paul is the only one coming close to these issues.
There are two dozen elites, they just made the top of Forbes 400 richest list. No matter what they do, or how much money they throw around, the Don will be the GOP nominee.
I have never been happier to see a bunch of crusty, fossilized, rich turds, be so frustrated, pissed off and stomping around like little children, who haven't gotten their way.
The Don has outfoxed them at their own game...heh-heh-heh.
Piss on the rich, fuck the media, screw the Establishment! Long live The Don!
The Don is a paid entertainer providing the "win" for that criminal cunt Hillary. Yes, he is acting just like those privledged old fucks and they do not like the "self-reflection" at all.
Just mentioning the word "bailout" makes them cringe, yet they all stood behind Hank Paulsen during that "tanks in the streets" bullshit.
Fuck em. take their fucking heads and that of their kids.
That is why I am cheering for the Don LOP. No one else can possibly defeat that despicable, lying, evil, criminal cunt Hillary...if she is elected(selected)I'm moving further south than where I am at already, off the mainland, far away...
Given the exponentially increasing nature of the unfunded liabilities on the balance sheet of the U.S. government, it will not matter either way.
hedge accordingly.
While the collapse will happen regardless, I suspect what rises from the ashes will look very different if someone like Trump (if he's legit) were in power v. someone like Hillary. You know there's thousands upon thousands of members of TPTB that want to build a Venezeula-model socialist paradise out of the ruins of the US, whereas having something resembling the country under the articles of confederation wouldn't be nearly so bad.
So... it does matter. Not for the outcome, but for what comes after.
Wouldn't the "elites" be happy if Rubio got the nomination, or am I missing something?
"Rubio is our guy now that Bush is buried" ... GOP Establishment
Yes sir, Rubio is Karl Rove's man to replace the Bushster.
Yea! Rubio is the new wet dream of the establishment GOP. They might secretly prefer Jeb!, but Rubio would be a much easier sell to a Bush-phobic electorate, would draw some Latino voters, and could actually defeat The Beast Herself, as the "young, attractive candidate with new ideas".
In other words, Rubio would be a fucking disaster.
Fuck Rubio and Cruz they are dickless, spineless puppets like barry obozo!
...and likewise ineligible.
Not that it matters.
They both talk about the border they both managed to jump over and be in this campaign. Two illegal ailens running for Pres. when neighter one is a U.S. Citizen.
To borrow from the Gipper, they are not the solution to our problems. They are the problem.
AMEN BROTHER
Creative destruction of the elite.
PB is 100% correct here >>> "It was the elites of both parties who failed to secure our borders and brokered the trade deals that have de-industrialized America and eviscerated our middle class.
It was the elites of both parties who got us into these idiotic wars that have blown up the Middle East, cost us trillions of dollars, thousands of dead, and tens of thousands of wounded among our best and bravest."
....and the Elite can only sit and wonder WHY the gen-pop is effing RUNNING away from whom ever they send up to be their next guy...
because
they
suck.
Trump is the 2016 version of Ross Perot IMHO. Ted's wife is or was a Goldman Sachs lackey. I believe Jeb was the establishment pick. But it's starting to look more like a Cruz coronation to me.
Rubio is the obvious candidate for coronation-- his immigration policy is how you know this.
when Trump knocks out Cruz they'll throw someone else in the ring to try and stop him.
The repubican way has been, when caught in a lie tell a bigger one. The natives are restless, hence Trump.
There is no GOP or Dem party. Only one "party" now. Don't be fooled into thinking that "party" is on your side
Says Reform Party Pat.
Still, in a larger sense the GOP is composed of multiple different groups who generally hate each other, and only stuck together due to the Cold War. It's about time that the GOP fragment into its populist/authoritarian, religious, country club, and libertarian sections.
Shit, some of the largest (R)-team donors and leadership have already said they'd prefer Hillary if Trump got the denomination. If that doesn't say that there's only one party and that they'll happily kill the GOP to protect its ideals, I don't know what will.
What will be fascinating is if the RNC changes the rules on the nomination process to exclude Trump what happens if the Don says this invalidates his no third party pledge.
I'll consider voting Trump only if J-tribe pundits start openly attacking him.
Republican stupidness and clumsiness is now in everybody's face. The biggest problem they have is they have proven to me beyond any shadow of a doubt that they don't give a shit about me, my family, or my neighbors, or my friends, or anybody else who works and pays taxes and gives a shit about the rule of law.
Of course they haven't learned anything. It's not their money.
Pat, like Ron Paul, is a real American. They never sold out.
I am so glad ZH is running his columns, I would have missed this.
I hope he is right, but it sure does seem that the POWERFUL, the Jewish donors, DO NOT want Mr Trump.
Why So Much Jewish Fear and Loathing of Donald Trump? Professor Kevin MacDonald October 29, 2015
This coming election is the most important since 1964, which started the End Game for White, Christian America.
Ted Kennedy is not responsible for the Immigration Act of 1965 by Kevin MacDonald PhD
South Africa: 49 Murders a Day November 18, 2015 South African Dan Roodt, November 9, 2012
Does anyone seriously think Trump will go the distance?
He will either split the vote or go Independent and hand the Oral Office to his "good friend" H-bag who he "has known for a long" time.
One good example of Republican establishment stupidity.......
After Virginia Republican Governor Bob Mccdonell rammed through the largest tax increase in Virginia history, he was soon put in jail for bribery.....Consequently handing the governorship to Clinton crony Terry Mcauliffe......
The RINO`s could give a tinkers damn about you and your problems......
Or whether a democrat gets elected......
Democrats and Republicans SUCK SHIT! Nuff said on that.
Whenever I see Buchanan write these kind of articles, I can't help but think of how big he is not to mention the time that the GOP did exactly the same thing to him in 1992 - stealing the election after he won primaries and anointing GHWB to fail epically. Back then, someone like him might have been able to set the nation on the path to an actual Peace Dividend and we'd be living in a brighter future.
http://philosophersforchange.org/2015/12/15/taking-notes-53-the-fascism-of-donald-trumps-america/
The GOP would rather toss in the towel than nominate a candidate whom they do not control. It's the loss of power that animates them, and nothing more. They want the power, they need to be able to pull the strings so that donors and lobbyists are assured of getting what they want from the man/woman in the White House. They can't leave that to chance; it would upset their rice bowl, and NOTHING is more important than keeping their rice bowl right where it is. The other thing the establishment is worried about is their control over local and state legislatures and governorships. That's the only reason they have tolerated Donald Trump so far and have not gone after him full bore. They don't realize that, by bringing down the only candidate that voters have coalesced behind, the establishment risks the ire of voters who will see clearly that the establishment wanted only an establishment guy to win. Do you think those scorned voters will turn to the establishment candidate who is offered up after that? Hardly.