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In Dramatic Reversal, US Vice President Biden Calls On Turkey To Withdraw Its Troops From Iraq
It has been a strange two days for US foreign policy.
Earlier today we reported that in what amounts to a significant blow to the official US position over Syria, namely the multi-year demands to replace president Assad with a western puppet ruler, John Kerry on Tuesday accepted Russia's long-standing demand that President Bashar Assad's future be determined by his own people, as Washington and Moscow edged toward putting aside years of disagreement over how to end Syria's civil war."
"The United States and our partners are not seeking so-called regime change," Kerry said, adding that the focus is no longer "on our differences about what can or cannot be done immediately about Assad."
In a testament to the fact that mainstream media is beginning to understand just how weak America's negotiating position has become, AP offered the following rather sarcastic assessment: "President Barack Obama first called on Assad to leave power in the summer of 2011, with "Assad must go" being a consistent rallying cry. Later, American officials allowed that he wouldn't have to resign on "Day One" of a transition. Now, no one can say when Assad might step down."
Kerry also called demands by the "moderate" opposition that Assad step down before peace negotiations begin an "obvious nonstarter."
All of the above, some may say, makes the US presence in Syria, whether through CIA covert ops, commandos, or even the Islamic State, moot: after all, if the US has folded on an Assad regime change, then there is no longer any point in continuing the proxy war, which revolves around one key issue: regime change in Syria.
But then something even more surprising happened.
Earlier today, Islamic State militants launched an attack on a military camp in northern Iraq where Turkish troops have been stationed. According to officials and press reports, seven Kurdish peshmerga fighters were killed and four Turkish troops were injured in the bombardment and rushed to a hospital in Sirnak, a Turkish province bordering Iraq, according to Anadolu Agency. A Kurdish Rudaw news agency report suggested that two of the trainees at the camp were killed and six wounded.
Turkey’s general staff said in a statement that Katyusha projectiles fell into the camp around 3 pm local time. Turkish troops returned fire following the attack according to Turkish officials, who provided no further details. Additionally, according to a report by a Kurdish news website, the Slemani Times, over 70 Turkish soldiers went missing after the attack.
The attack on Turkish soldiers by the Islamic State takes place two weeks after the Turkish military deployed troops in northern Iraq without preclearance from Iraq in what has been seen by some as a military invasion of sovereign territory and has become a major stumbling block in relations between Ankara and Baghdad. While Turkey claims the troops had been deployed at the invitation of the Iraqi government, Baghdad denies this, describing Ankara’s actions as an “incursion.”
But while the attack on the Turkish soldiers by those they allegedly invaded Iraq to fight may be seen as oddly ironic, the real surprise is what followed shortly thereafter.
Moments ago, the office of the Vice President released a readout of a phone call Joe Biden had with Iraq's PM Al-Abadi. The stunning part is that in a dramatic reversion of the NATO narrative on Turkey's incursion in Iraq as justified, Biden just called on Turkey to withdraw from Iraq.
Here is the full readout of Vice President Biden’s Call With Iraq’s Prime Minister Haider Al-Abadi
The Vice President spoke with Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Al-Abadi yesterday following his December 14 call with Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu. The Vice President noted the recent deployment of Turkish forces into northern Iraq had occurred without the prior consent of the Iraqi government. Both leaders welcomed initial indications of the withdrawal of some Turkish forces and agreed this should continue, reiterating that any foreign forces can only be present in Iraq with the coordination and permission of the Iraqi government. The Vice President reaffirmed the United States' commitment to Iraqi sovereignty and territorial integrity and called on Turkey to do the same by withdrawing any military forces from Iraqi territory that have not been authorized by the Iraqi government. The Vice President encouraged continued dialogue between Iraq and Turkey to address any outstanding grievances in the spirit of mutual cooperation. Both leaders reaffirmed their continued commitment to the fight against ISIL in Iraq.
So first the US backtracks on its core long-running demand that "Assad must go", and now it has just turned its back on a key NATO-member ally and what is allegedly the biggest provider of funding and supplies (including Ford F250 pick up trucks) to the Islamic State, Turkey.
Perhaps if only Putin, Lavrov, and Kerry had more staring contests such as this one...
... in which the latter invariably blinks, the world's geopolitical conflicts would be promptly resolved.
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Yes Turkey. Take your troops out of Turkey at once!
Haha...it was corrected.
I was hoping for an Onion story.
Is the US going to start recognizing borders? Dont be silly. Team America....Fuck Yeah.
The smirk on Putin's face is like that of one who has queened four pawns during the time it took to wait for his opponent to resign with honor.
Something huge went down at that meeting. I have no idea what it was, but it was big. Maybe they got a call from the red shield bank IN London telling them it was time to ditch Turkey.
Putin has definitive proof that the United States is supporting ISIS, and blackmailed our government into butting out of Syria.
That's my guess.
Does this mean Obama has been replaced?
Wishful thinking? Alas.
"In Dramatic Reversal, US Vice President Biden Calls On Turkey To Withdraw Its Troops From Iraq"
Because NATO CAN'T win this one, and more importantly, Israel would be turned to glass.
ZWO on the ropes...... Iran testing rockets and shit and no one really cares..... lol
sounds like Putin has check mate today somehow. First the hors face asshole gives in to Puti about removing Assad and now this?
It wasn't a 'staring contest'. It was a KGB hypnosis session to slap sensibility into Kerry. Biden was an easier subject; that could be done remotely.
As much as I loathe the Obama administration (Obamacare, drone campaigns, war on whistleblowers, etc.) I have to admit Thierry Meyssan is right - the White House is fully aware of the neocons' plans and is opposing them as much as it can.
Cunt replaces cunt
Probly he (Obama)took too much of Afghan Heroin & still in bed with some young whiteGuy
russia gets usa to back off their turkish dogs from iraq?
this is a huge coup for the russia/iran/syria pipeline if it's true, they need iraq on their side as the pipeline would have to go through iraq. iraq seems to have been gravitating towards that coalition lately anyhow
MK17. They were in the ideal position to see the radar track for everything. Also, they could well have received or intercepted US communications setting that up, as you would expect them to have good sources inside Ukraine.
I said that Putin uses info well. Erdogan's case shows that.
Putin may well feel personal anger at that, as one theory was they were trying to shoot down Putin's plane on a similar tract, but 200 miles away. That story was never completed, that I saw.
Which airline uses the flight code MK? Not Malaysian for sure...
CIAirlines does
as in, MKUltra
MH17 was a false flag fuck up by the US/Nuland cookie lovers in order to assign Putin as the new 'bad guy'. The US installed Ukies shot down that plane. They (us/UK) immediately stormed the ATC tower and confiscated tapes that proved US/UK involvement. Russia is well aware of this. Hence the lack of a formal investigation (NATO). It was a fucking war zone - plenty of satellite images available. Putin is slow playing the US morons, Kerry and OB. It must be difficult for him trying to negotiate with US/NATO without exposing the plan while staying alive.
That pic of Putin reminds me of playing Texas hold'em watching another player re-raise as they try to bluff their hand while I know I got the nuts.
My guess is the western governments, media and their internet trolls couldn't find a dirt on Russia that would stick. Every step and demand that NATO and US take/make are absurd. Plus many evidences are pointing to the allies' support for ISIS. There really is no way out without looking like a moron.
At least, these "official" retractions will bring down Russia/Syria's guard and buy some time to device new, decent-sounding strategies to skin the cat.
"Something huge went down at that meeting. I have no idea what it was, but it was big."
I have the same feeling. Same like after the Sotchi meeting.
Maybe they showed him the "finish US"-button on Putin´s desk.
But i also have the feeling, that Kerry forgets these meetings within 6 months.
So this should happen twice a year.
The Turkish incursion into Iraq was a trial balloon by the US. If Russia doesn't react to it, Western ground troops will be deployed in Iraq and march into Syria "to fight the IS" and to occupy Damascus in the process. Russia attacking Turkish forces in Iraq would, of course, put paid to such plans, but not an easy task for Russia to do that since Russian military assets are not in any danger from the Turkish troops in Syria.
Russia played the smart game by asking Iraq to take the matter to the UN Security Council before requesting Russian help to protect Iraq's territorial sovereignty. If the US blocks a resolution against Turkey, Iraq will officially request Russian help to protect her sovereignty and Russia will first warn Turkey to withdraw and if Turkey doesn't oblige, bomb Turkish troops. Russia doesn't have to bomb them first either. Russia can buzz Turkish troops with drones incessantly until Turkish troops make the mistake of bringing one down, which is inevitable anyway. At that point Russia will bomb every single one of the Turkish troops in Iraq until no one is left alive.
The only honourable way out for Turkey is to withdraw the troops on the "advice" of an ally.
As for the US climbdown regarding Assad, the US has no other options, but one, left. The only other option they have is to conduct a terrorist attack on the US, which the "IS" takes credit for, and start fuming "You are with us or against us" to force Russia. If Russia can neutralise that by publicly announcing, before the attacks, that they have passed on specific intelligence to the US regarding such impending attacks or by publicly announcing after the attacks that they shared such intelligence before the attacks itself. Kerry would have been told, diplomatically, the options available to Russia if the US doesn't change its stand before he leaves Moscow.
The US is out of all moves on Syria.
To understand the borders in Kurdish Israel, you have to compare a few maps. I humbly offer the following map pr0n:
Q: Where the hell is Iraqi Kurdistan anyways?
A: That depends what point in oil exploration time you're talking about. This map shows the Israel-effect on the potential Kurdistan's ever-exapnding borders.
Q: Shouldn't the Kurds get everything to the dotted line if they live there?
A: It's not that simple. NE Iraq undoubtedly has solidly Kurdish-dominated areas, but there's a large cultural - ethnic - language zone shown on this map as the Piedmont. There's a little blurb on the side of the map explaining the historical diversity of this area. Barzani is fixing the diversity problem with a little ol' time ethnic cleansing.
Q: So if it's mixed and there's some Kurds and they speak some Kurdish, why not just let the Kurds have it.
A: Because it's Iraqi soverign territory and Iraqi-developed fields, and Kurdistan is not an independent nation (despite acting like one). A million Iraqis and ten thousand U.S. troops died to restore Iraq to all Iraqis, not the ethnic/religious slice and diced version PNAC, Exxon and Genel have wet dreams about.
Q: Why do the Kurds insist on the expanded borders?
A: The Kurds? Nobody cares what the hell they think. Barzani is the U.S./Israeli puppet chosen as king of the new Kurdistan. There's not much oil in the 'old' Kurdish region. Barzani claiming the Piedmont zone easily doubles the spoils and he pretty much get all the northern Iraq oil.
Q: Isn't that kind of like theft?
A: Yes, but I already pointed out the Israeli and U.S. influence.
Q: On that last map, the oil goes southwest from Kirkuk and then turns northwest. Why so crooked?
A: The major north-south and east-west pipelines cross at that point, and the huge Bajii refinery is right there. Oil can be sent to Baghdad or exported to Turkey. Over the years, the volume from the northern fields kept the Kirkuk - Ceyhan pipeline full.
Q: But there's a Khurmala-Dohuk pipeline on that map. Why don't they send it up that one?
A: Oh, they do. See, ISIS by some strange coincidence took over most of the Bajii - Fish Kabhur section and there were some mysterious bombings closing the Iraqi government pipeline. Barzani was able to see into the future and started building the Khurmala-Dohuk pipeline right after we engineered the uprising in Syria. Almost like he knew the Iraqi pipeline would be taken out (he has powers we can't begin to understand). It conveniently bypasses the Iraqi government oil metering station in Fish Kabhur, so we just have to trust Barzani to give accurate, truthful transit volumes he sends to Erdogan.
Q: So isn't Erdogan interested in this unmetered Kurdish oil? Sounds like an opportunity for some off-the-books deals.
A: Why, yes. As a matter of fact, Erdogan is providing pipeline security for the Kurds. Remember that Turkish 'training' base at Bashiqua? That's almost exactly under the dot for the Khurmala-Dohuk pipeline label on the previous map. You'll find all the other Turkish 'training' bases are along the route from north of Mosul to Dohuk to the Fish Kahbur crossing. It's just a coincidence, I think. Those happened to be high-need training areas for fake Peshmerga and fake YPG.
Q: But Lurch just told Turkey to get the hell out of Iraq. Who will guard Erdogan's money-maker?
A: That would be the Turkish troops that are never leaving, plus a few Kurd mercs hired for the fake Peshmerga and fake YPG. Turkey wil just move their 'training bases' to other pipeline sections and toss up some KRG and YPG flags. That's usually enough to trick the knuckledraggers at Reuters and Bloomberg.
Q: What about the Kirkuk - Haifa pipeline you keep yammering about? It's just a dotted line on that map and doesn't even exist.
A: Shhhh... that's a secret. The Israelis are burying it 20m under the sand and putting all kinds of sensors to guard it. You won't see any of it besides the pumping stations the U.S. and British troops protected during the Gulf War. ISIS was temporarily holding Bajii and Hadith until the crude is ready to flow, and it's almost ready. Bye-bye ISIS temps.
Q: What does Putin think about this elaborate oil/land theft scheme?
A: He didn't kill a million Iraqis and lose 10,000 troops for the oil and pipeline theft. I'm sure he's baffeled why the Americans didn't string up congress by now, burn Cheney/Rumsfeld/Bush and their cronies at the stake and boycott and sanction Israel into oblivion, but it's really not his problem. He's still kind of busy cleaning up after the last mess we left behind in Syria.
See the trouble is that if you know about it, then Russia knows about it. And if Russia knows about it then Iran knows about it. And if Iran knows about it then the Shiite militas know about it. And if they know about it it will be dug up and destroyed.
I think the idea is to keep the Sunnis and Shia slaughtering each other in Iraq forever. You'll notice the Iraqi part of the Kirkuk-Haifa pipeline is pretty much in the fake Kurdistan and fake Sunnistan areas. The potential leaders of both those areas are already bought and paid for. Toss in a few tanks and TOWs and a regular shipment of clownbux, and they'll guard your pipeline forever. The point of splitting up Iraq is so the Shia are not 'allowed' (or welcome) in the Pipelinestan areas. I doubt the evil ZATO plan will actually work out as they planned, but who knows. Israel already has the Kirkuk - Ceyhan discount stolen oil flowing to them. The Kirkuk - Haifa line just makes it cheaper and easier to access.
Very entertaining. Anybody recall how Iraq or any of these so-called countries came into being? Nailing down a certain claim is charming unless you want to go back a couple millennia.
Ah... good post. Sweet maps - thanks for this!
Thank George Soros and the neocon-funded Gulf/2000 project at Columbia University - they have a great list of maps (copyrighted) of the Middle East here authored and produced by Dr. Michael Izady.
Settlers murder and steal. It's really that simple.
Great FAQ, by the way. Maybe Matt Taibbi will borrow the device and use it this well.
Nowadays, most stories are Onion stories.
Kerry call to Obama during break in meeting Putin, Lavrov:
"We are fucked now specifically! About everything they know and about not just Erdogan!
And if we even rendering Erdogan mute is not mattering. About our people, about our shell companies, about our whole operations they know all. Aw fuck - even know all numbers bank accounts we using!
Urgently a deal need reach any!"
Turkey found out REAL quick that the Iraqi government will let ISIS through to attack their troops today. Now let's see if Turkey listens or continues to act like Saudi puppets.
but WHY would isis attack the hand that feeds it?
...unless a different hand is now tossing it a bone?
Maybe Russia used some Chechens dressed up as ISIS.
Spetnaz Chechens.
ISIS doesn't actually exist. Shia militias attacked Turkey's positions, just like they promised to. But they used the cover of ISIS as a nice scape goat.
Turkey can't turn around and say they know it wasn't ISIS because that biblically gives the game away. So they have to sit there and cop it sweet as their little pets get the blame for attacking their positions.
And the truth came out in the news. The attack reportedly was from GRAD rocket units. I don't think ISIS has very many of those in their inventory if any. However, the Shia militia have PLENTY as does the Revolutionary Guard. Neither Baghdad nor Kirkuk will shed a tear if Barzini is abandoned then wiped out.
"Neither Baghdad nor Kirkuk will shed a tear if Barzini is abandoned then wiped out."
And that makes Tatalia nothing more than a cheap pimp.
In dramatic tail-between-the-legs fashion.....
lmao.
Smells a bit fishy, though it may be an "honest" request. Still, I wouldn't put a false flag theory past Biden.
I like ole Lavrov he looks like he wants to rip the horse a new ass.
AA Kerry
LOL. Good thing I wasn't drinking coffee.
Can't use false flag to coerce Russia. Russia has enough tools to neutralise the impact of false flags intended to be used against Russia.
Wow, talk about giving Biden way more credit than he deserves!
I have one word for you: Burisma.
Think of all the veeps over the past thirty years and name just one that's not a sleazy power broker. The designated sleaze's backchannels help keep the President's hands clean. It may be fun to mock them, as liberals do, for the crime of being illiberal, but it's just as easy (and arguably more correct) to mock them for being subhuman flaming bags of shite.
If NATO wasn't demanding removal of Russian troops from the Russian border, while calling close encounters of US and Chinese ships in South China Sea a provocation on behalf of China, I would've believed it was a typo.
Vlad obviously convinced them that Russian Roulette with him loading the revo;ver wasn't their game.
Look at the smirk on Putins face, may as well be holding up a placard saying loser to Kerry's horse face..
Putin has threatened to expose the real agenda if they do not call off the Turkish pack dogs......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/is-russian-president-vladimir-putin-a-reptilian-kgb-time-traveler-video-2472970.html
This is fucked up. Once the main intrinsic source of ISIS funding was done in by Russian bombs and US pamphlets, the outside money and political support has disappeared too. Regretfully, it will be replaced by bodies. Sad for humanity, but that's the way it's always been.
That's what we get for treating the lives of our aristocracy as more precious than our own.
Ah, yes, the Joker and his freaks back track. Not so easy, is it, when you meet your match.
Biden, the Joker, chutzpah, use and abuse the mensch in the USA, and be afraid that the mature world, our kith and kin, will send your plots straight to hell.
Happy Christmas, one and all.
I think some "smart" decisions were made. I commend Mr. Biden.
Why commend a thief who pleads guilty instead of wasting more time and money from those who pay for him or defy him.
Biden and his family steal.
He was asked, as retarded, as it sounds, to diffuse the situation.
You clearly don't understand the duty of an court jesture.?
Indeed. Maybe WWIII has been postponed for a bit.
Postponed maybe, but not cancelled unfortunately.
Just regrouping and trying to come up with counters to the Russian jamming, and whatever
has been stationed in the Caspian out of reach.Those have thrown the Pentagram for a loop.
I doubt thats all the Russians have either, thats just what they are prepared to show.It was enough,
for the moment.
Now where are all these Zino-hasbra trolls claiming Russia don't have shite? Russia kicks ass.
Interesting thought that people's reactions to all this may have had some effect. Any info to that effect?
Maybe smart decisions made, but I still suspect evil motives. Perhaps the warmongers realize that Russia will not back down, and they know or are worried that they can't match modern Russian weapons, so better not to let countries buying US weapons find out, and start buying from Russia.
Biden is being readied to replace Obama prior to the election.
After O'bomber dies in a most unfortunate accident or illness, if things carry on for thieves.
On 9/11, GWB's flight detail refused to give the flight coordinates. You do not know how wicked the world of powerbrokers is.
Biden is the Joker in the Pack. Total filth. Money whore. Knows only force.
That is why Biden the Joker smiles so much, and DC, the District of Criminals, now hiding behind Grandma Janet.
Biden is a vile little parasite that has been around DC and politics forever. Just like McCain and Kerry.
Biden the vile little prick who rode the train everyday to his public "service" job from his $4 million home
Just found this at Veterns Today.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/12/14/neo-how-john-mccain-crippled-oba...
Note that John McCain’s personal trips to Syria, meeting with the heads of ISIS and al Nusra, deeply parallel his earlier actions in Vietnam when as a prisoner of war McCain trained North Vietnamese air defense forces to shoot down American planes and made dozens of anti-American propaganda broadcasts.
McCain was pardoned by President Nixon when facing court martial and his records sealed and “whitewashed” by the press.
Veterans Today is one of the places that assume 9/11 FF. There aren['t many, it seems.
And just found another alterntive we ca nvote for. I like McAfee's approach to life, don't know much about his politics.
Obama body surfing accident.
Interesting angle. If he replaces Obama, as the new incumbent he would be effectively replacing Hillary (and Sanders, and the other "ex-" Republicans occupying the Democratic Party). Wouldn't all that be convenient.
Did someone make McCain and all his butt buddies a stick figure cartoon in simpleton terms showing what would happen if 10k nukes were released?
+1 For reality check.
could you look at Lavrov? I give
If what you were involved in was actually a productive pursuit, that didn't foster overthrow's, regime-changes, bombings, societal upheaval, and regional chaos - perhaps yes. A sound moral footing has a way of removing fear. The U.S. has no sound moral footing in its foreign policy, nor much elsewhere come to think of it, so Kerry was well-done before he even sat down...
@hotrod: That's MR. Lavrov to you!
Lavrov is the Pit Bull. Better to look at the one holding the leash.
Lavrov seems like you old wise and very intteligent uncle. Just do not piss him off or he will tear you a new a*shole.
How he is able to put up with talking to these evil morons each day is beyond me.
Lavrov is a very smart individual. Can you imagine what it takes to do his job? Knowing all the layers of bullshit yet holding his tongue. A true professional IMHO. I can only imagine the conversations in the secure rooms.
His knowledge of history and all of the factions of politics is amazing.
Have you seen a State Department briefing lately?
He is is the type of diplomat America needs.
I guess we have much work to do.
"Assad must go!" - President Redline...lmao!!!
President Limp wrist.
Toothless, spineless, worthless, banker puppet is all he is.
if all the resources were combined, we'ld all be living in Nirvana.
What would happen to creativity?
Yes, I think so to, and I think it is easy to prove. Somewhere I read that 25% of effort in the US is checking others and watching them. I assume that is all military + police + accountants. We can get rid of a lot of accountants by getting rid of business taxes (business do not pay taxes, they collect them, so a huge waste of effort). All military, of course, should be gone and most police.
Chop government until the economy recovers and keep going. The world so clearly has plenty for all, our governments have centralized everything and left important technologys languish, but farming may be the worst. Gabe Brown is a place to start on Youtube if you are interested in that.
Why the VP? Did anyone else catch the coldness and insincerity of Obama's speech from the Pentagon, he just wanted it done and gone? He must be troubled and the ISIS/security beating last night at the debates certainly didn't cheer him up.
Crazy Uncle Joe was trotted out there cuz Obama (after whippin up on the JV Team...lol) is now blissfully winging off to Hawaii, on Air Force One, spewing CO2 into the atmosphere, followed by the second Air Force One...and 747's full of entourage, cuz he just got done saving the fucking planet, from Paris, on the other side of...the planet.
Sort of a covering action.
Sychophant reporter: "President Obama, you just saved the entire fucking planet! What are you gonna do now!?
Obama: "I'm errr, ahhh, going to Disney World!"
Valerie Jarret: "Hawaii."
Obama: "Right! Ebidaaay dats all folks!"
In addition to this the US is pulling its 12 fighter jets from the Turkish airbase today. Something strange is going on behind the scenes for sure.
Russia has placed/amassed 7000 heavily armed and armored troops and buttloads of s400s on Turkeys border in the last few days. Maybe that is it but I doubt it. I don't know. It looks like Lavrov is going WTF too. Putin is just looking like- you stupid lying punk ass bitch, what are you up to now?
Indeed. There seems to be a sea change going on. This may be the lull before the real storm, just to throw people off, or it may be genuine.
The US Deep State has either made a deal with Putin, or some event has taken place which changes the game, and the US being allowed to withdraw gracefully. We may never know, although there may be clues in the days to come. Any guesses folks?
1) Putin shows off some new weapon system that makes it game over for the West??
2) Putin threatens to blow the whistle of 9/11 and show incrontrovertible proof??
3) Russia shows in-flagrante pictures of Obama and Reggie in a passionate embrace??
4) China says enough is enough and the neocons finally figure out that its games over??
5) Putin shows a picture of a kidnapped George Soros being threatened with a belt sander (OK, that just my personal wet dream)
Note the other "odd" things going on. I saw one report that Australia is saying the Russia was no treated fairly vis a vis the downing of Malaysian MH17. Pigs are flying if this is the case...
Saw another report that Turkey actually DID withdraw their troops from Iraq.
Something interesting, and hopeful is taking place under the table IMHO...
The Obama and Reggie is a given. In the gay states of america, it would be celebrated
For the Israeli-Neocns, 'game over' is when they hang. So I don't think the game is over, not by a long way.
I saw the 'Turkey withdrew troops from Iraq' story also. I agree, please put some sanity into leaders please God.
5) Putin shows a picture of a kidnapped George Soros being threatened with a belt sander (OK, that just my personal wet dream)
That one almost made 2015 a good year. Make sure his clan are there too.
The zios kill people's kids to send a message. Ask Admiral Morrison (if he was alive).
Most likely for the moment Bisonia accepted that Russia is ready no joke to unleash the nuclear hell if that's what it is required,
remember Putin's open declaration on the theme just few days ago. And, as obviously Bisonia's defense systems are complete bluff
the aristocracy decided that the option to have to get out of the bunkers in few years just to find an oblivion is not so much attractive ...
I heard about those 7,000 Russians and armor. I was wondering if it was true.
I think much of Turkey would welcome Putin and Russia as liberators. I know the Germans probably would and even the Brits if Ivan sent the islamo invaders home.
I for one would. Imagine how the wise and educated Germans felt about Hitler in 1930s. Same feeling.
Footnote : Hitler got most of his votes from ignorant dumbass peasant Germans who lived in the eastern and northern regions of the country.
Kind of explains that "Three Oil Tankers Turning Around" story...something just snapped...Putin played the invisible card...I wonder what it was to get the US to flip/flop after all of this?!
Incontrovertible proof of any of a number of things that would cause some deep doo-doo here and abroad were these things to come to light?
Well, the card is called just the nuclear boom boom, as simple as that, it was openly declared recently by Russia.
And after exposing the hilariously inneficient defense system of the USSA, don't be happy, this is actually fucking dangerous
because it shows USSA can be cornered easy in the near future by an alliance ready to go the full length ...
The Turks are simply going to ignore the request. Erdocunt takes his orders from Riyadh, not Washington.
Not for long enter the true Caliphate - Turkey Invades Syria and Iraq after 70 of its troops were diasapeared. Responds by Kurd sancitioned incursion In to Iraq Kurd area. Iraq and US have little to respond with(but its most likely by plan) A counter attack by ISIS. Turkey then moves South into the Gulf with small population and weak military. Now Turkey juinior has real oil to sell then.
Dude tell us who your drug dealer is?Your scenario will NEVER happen.
Erdogan takes his orders, like Washington, from Tel Aviv.
Biden is as limp-wristed and low-IQ'd as Kerry.
They both remind me of Dan Quayle. Remember him?
"Bank failures are caused by depositors who don't deposit enough money to cover losses due to mismanagement."
Putin has got to have something political on those dolts.
He's got something that will send them all to the gallows if it comes out in the public.
What else could it be?!
Did Putin just take over the world?!
My father, god rest his soul, said: Don't get angry.Get ready.
Get ready, munchkins. Grandma Janet has given cover to the biggest heist in history for the naughty boys, Fischer, Greenspan, Bernanke, and their City of London Rothschilds et al.
Get ready to defend yourselves. 0.25 hike serves the Fed, and its banks who raised variable mortgage rates to 3.5% soon after, but no relief for savers, makers. This is the biggest heist in history. Money to the banksters. No relief for the people.
People, get ready. Ain't no room for the hopeless sinner who would hurt all mankind, just to save his own.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yYOWQj2Wdo
this is where the real trouble begins.
Our language was killed.We live on. Tisquantum and all that...
My Scottish friends are the queen's arrow. We are not happy with the AshkeNAZI.
Putin's got Owe-bama's birth certificate!!!!!
Is there a major UN announcement forthcoming?
Haha US agrees to no regime change in Syria, Turkey troops must fuck off. I would say Obama's USA is fucked and stuck in the toilet where he belongs.
Puppet as POTUS finally saw the "real red line"
CHINA is comin aboard
Puppet as POTUS finally saw the "real red line"
CHINA is comin aboard
China can just say no more goods to USA, the monkeys here will revolt with no Super Bowl big screens.
I ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer and much of this story escapes me...
but these sudden reversals are scaring the living daylights outta me...
what dafuk is going on ???
Wierd, because these sudden reversals have brought to me a flood of relief. Why the fuck were we itching to start a war with Russia? I'm sure this change of heart wasn't because of Obama meditating and suddenly figuring out that he's a warmongering prick.
let's turn on every love light in the place
please celebrate me home....
play me one more song
that I will always remember
sing me home...
Love your comments @ Dakota...very enlightened and enlightining...
And as for that "V for..." well his comments just make me hard...in an awesome way ;)
*smooches*
This may be USA acting like the good guys before the final false flag/provocation. Who knows?
Nothing about this makes sense.
Amazing how they have no qualms about blasting others to kingdom come, yet their ass sucks wind when faced with the same.
Bullies & cowards.
Justice...not JustUs would be they get what they give.
Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition.
Bullies, cowards, thieves, liars, banksters. They drag us all down. They must be defeated.
US jets removed from Turkish airbase; Biden fails to back Turkey in Iraq; and Assad stays. Barack Hussein blinked. Russia can now attack Turkish airbase without harming US and European planes. There is no honor among ISIS supporters.
Neocons, busted.
Demoncraps, busted.
Repugnants, busted.
Zionists, delayed, as they play all sides, and make permanent war for their batshit crazy medievalist delusion of a Greater Israel (the Yinon Plan, aided by AIPAC and stupid lil girls and boys in DC, District of Criminals, traitors).
Putin must have briefed Kerry on something very unpleasant about messing with the wrong people. Whatever it was, he's not bluffing, he's deadly serious. Its already clear that Russia has several super weapons (meaning unstoppable) but I guess they have something else even bigger - the Ace of all aces... wonder what it is.
Tesla technology, how they shut down the US warship in the black sea.
Russia put out a call worldwide to find anyone who had worked with Tesla.
They found one guy.
All his journals have disappeared, last known location in Yugoslavia.
and they reconciled them with Einstain's Serbian former wife's journals?
Does this mean that the 100,000 troops that McStain refered to as "non negotiable" wont be invading? Funny how McStain mentioned that and now they are saying it is all run by the Saudis. Surely as bad as the Sauds have been getting thrown around in Yemen it's hardly believable that they are running the shots.
The Saudis? Haha! They are getting their asses kicked in Yemen. 10 Saudi ships have been sunk and they are warships. Some of them destroyer and frigate sized.
I saw some more info that a BlackWater clone in the UAE just hired former US General McCrystal. Another traitor. Lots of ex-USA military merc jobs in the UAE now.
there is quantity of high paid mercs died in Yemen, confirmed.
Yes. Many from South America with others from the Uk and Australia. The UAE has hired a lot including those from Colombia.
It is sad that men travel to make money killing others but they pretty much deserve what they get. Anyone who enjoys killing others for money or any other reason is a sicko and deserves what they get.
The Saudis must be among the most incompetent f**ks in the world. Losing 10 ships to Yemen when Yemen does not really have a navy. The Saudis make that vile fat evil zio pig Porko-shenko and Yatz look competent.
well, not require Navy to win Naval battle anymore
Russia studied these ideas since WW2 end.
When Biden starts talking about Greater Arabia instead of...you know...Well, wake me up then, OK?
A 26-Member "Hunting Party" from Qatar has been "kidnapped" in Western Iraq. The "hunting party" included members of the Qatari Ruling family.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/12053414/Gunme...
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/iraq-hundreds-gunmen-storm-hunting-camp-near-sa...
Despite what the articles say, Iraq is NOT a common hunting area for GCC countries. Not at all - GCC princes prefer Pakistan and Uzbekistan for these trips.
Some news stories claim the Qataris were there to "buy hawks" which is a bullshit story as there aren't any hawks or houbara birds in that area.
And the Iraqi government doesn't issue hunting licenses.
McCain must be so angry that his stools are leaking past his diaper. Obama really isn't the anti-Christ sent from Hell to start WWIII?
And then this: IMF recognizes Ukraine’s contested $3bn debt to Russia as sovereign
Holy shit! Ukraine, too? What the fuck did Putin threaten Kerry with?
Today has been a heck of a day for Mr.Putin and Russia
Had to LOL above, does Putin have his birth certificate? Did Putin warn Merkel and Hollande that he was going to turn off the gas? Or warn them that a NATO attack on Russian forces would make all of NATO a target for Kh-101 stealth cruise missiles?
We know more about Putin then we know about Obola. In fact, here is Putin in front of the church he was baptised in as a baby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3d_yxJhmjk
I wonder if we will ever see a video showing the temple where Satan baptised Obola. I heard it may be in Langley, Virginia and also in Indonesia.
911 proof
More would be helpful, but we don't need more, the case is very tight, it seems to me.
People's opinions on 9/11 are set, Putin's evidence would be discounted very greatly, so that wouldn't be a good use of any 9/11 info he had. He would have to be cleverer to get it into circulation in the US, unlikely to have mass effect.
But tying MH17 directly to US command, Nuland's phones or such, that would have a big effect in Europe, at least. I cam believe MH17, and surely Russia has all the radar info from its side of the border.
Putin told Kerry he had to move his yacht back to Mass-hole and pay his boat taxes versus parking it in RI to dodge taxes.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/23/john-kerry-saves-500000-b_n_656...
BOSTON (AP) -- Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry is docking his family's new $7 million yacht in neighboring Rhode Island, allowing him to avoid paying roughly $500,000 in taxes to the cash-strapped Bay State.
If the "Isabel" were kept at the 2004 Democratic presidential nominee's summer vacation home on Nantucket, or in Boston Harbor near his city residence, he would be liable for $437,500 in one-time sales tax. He would also have to pay $70,000 in annual excise taxes.
Rhode Island repealed those taxes in 1993. That has made the state something of a nautical tax haven.
https://www.rt.com/politics/325964-putin-gives-russian-constitution-prio...
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Too bad we could't do that too. Think the TPP etc...
Putin signs decree suspending free trade deal with Kiev from Jan. 1
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-12/17/c_134924535.htm
MOSCOW, Dec. 16 (Xinhua) -- Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday signed a decree to suspend Russia's free trade deal with Ukraine from Jan. 1, 2016, the same day when Kiev's free trade regime with the European Union (EU) becomes effective.
The decision, released at Russia's legal information website, was made "immediately in view of extraordinary circumstances affecting the country's interests and economic security," according to the decree.
Under the decree, Ukraine will no longer enjoy the most favored nation principle under the framework of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) free trade deal, as well as a host of preferential policies in areas of migration, customs, quarantine inspection, and investment, Russia's Economic Development Minister Alexei Ulyukayev told reporters.
In 2014, Ukraine and the EU signed an agreement to create a free trade zone between the two sides. Out of concerns from Moscow, the bloc decided to postpone the implementation of the agreement until Jan. 1, 2016.
Arguing that Ukraine could not simultaneously implement two free trade deals under the framework of both CIA and the EU, Moscow has decided to end the preferential trade policies with Kiev from next year.
Trilateral negotiations over the issue among Russia, Ukraine and the EU were held on Dec. 1, but they failed to clinch any agreement, Ulyukayev said.
However, he added that the three parties will try to find a solution to the deadlock when they meet in Brussels next Monday. "The door is not finally shut," he said.
haha dildoe Yats followed with announced Kiev closing trade with Russia
not the first time Kiev did this, like was their idea firstly..
Say what?!? :O
They really must have done/said something truly, truly HUGE to accomplish all these things!
The powers that be are being unmasked now with Pluto finally mid December at mid Capricorn, and they won't be anymore.
Edgar Cayce said in the 1930s that Russia would be the hope of the world, and that was during the brutal Soviet era.
All these institutions will be cleansed and the only thing left standing is that which is not diseased.
Just watch it, I told you guys this months ago.
Pluto is our soulmate, he loves us so deeply that he will kill us if it is for our own good.
He gives you enough rope in the first half, then unmasks you, howls and mocks you.
You are living in an extraordinary time being witness to this.
Keep your own personal house in order and you won't be touched at all.
One upvote for mentioning Cayce who also predicted that major changes around the world would begin after a massive earthquake in N. Japan, which was Fukushima.
+100
I hope Cayce is correct.
Putin talking about his Christian faith after attending or entering midnight Christmas mass which is 3 hours long.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3d_yxJhmjk
Putin talks about his mother and her sister had to sneak him out of the house as a baby to have him baptized. He said his father was a proud man. Obviously meaning he wa sa communist and did not approve.
I pray for peace for Syria and all Syrians this Christmas where arguably Christianity first started. 33 AD and Saint Peter who was from what is now Syria.
Also prayers for Russia, Putin and Western and Eastern Europe and the friends of the Syrian people fighting to save Syria and Iraq too.
Prayers on America are probably wasted as the dumb sheep get worked up about Star Wars and the NFL-Trayvon playoffs. A nation of idiots.
On the surface it appears Washington is taking orders directly from Putin. Hmmmm
No.
The force for bad meets the force for good.
Pay attention. Cui bono?
DC, the District of Criminals, serve the City of London, banksters who despise Christians or any other good person, as it lies and thieves, wages its endless wars for profit, with no care for anyone.
Today, they hide behind Grandma Janet. Asymetric warfare. Says a lot about them that they hide behind an old lady while Fischer, Bernanke,Greenspan and the rest of the zionists made endless war and profit by using the USA.
Simply stupefying. We are not the masters of the universe over there. We have the disadvantage of poor logistics while Iran and Syria can manage quite well because it is their country. We allied with the oil producers who bank rolled mercs and power hungry islamiscists. Russia simply exploited our weak position. But what's funny is the immigration to Europe is a big hoax. Those guys are going to Europe to scare up a panic about Isis so we can get enough public opinion for our desired military listed of Assad. It's a cake flag immigration waVe. That's why every so often a few hundred to missing. They go back home.
Turkey is backed by NATO and Iraq is backed by the US so if Turkey attacks Iraq does the US go to war against NATO???
Knowing the asshats in charge, the US will deploy troops to support Iraq and deploy troops to support NATO. McCain will have an erection lasting more than 4 years.
No looks Erdogan and gang left hanging...
US pulling aircraft out..i
Erdogan is weakened
They have come to a new quid pro quo that is very likely contained and unconditional. Just a small, credibility building step. The fact that Mr Putin was present means Kerry had a solid and viable offer to make that needed an immediate answer. The equally quick Veep jaw-boning of Turkey puts the ribbon on the package. Lets hope at least one trigger has had the safety put back on. Now for the other 30 or so that remain...
Still, I wouldn't start counting chickens yet.
Nazionists and the Yinon Plan were made an offer they couldn't refuse.
It is disgusting that the USA is put in this position by those who kiss the jackboot of nazionists, and the un-Federal no-Reserve Board, a private company paying its shareholder 6% while robbing the USA and the world.
Not that I like any bankster pet. I just despise traitors most.
The US is getting its azz handed to it by Russia. It was trying to step on Iraq and they weren't have any of it....told them to pizz off and Russia would help them. This changed USsA's tune. Next up...info on Ukraine coming soon?
You are stupid. Russia is the oldest true friend of the American people. The Czars sent ships to protect our coast against the City of London Crown banksters. 1776 and all that...
Well, with friends like the USSA, who needs chlamydia...