This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.

This Is How The Algos Trade The Fed Announcement

Tyler Durden's picture




 

With Treasury volatility spiking in "panic" mode but equity volatility in "everything will be fine" mode, there is plenty of room for the algos to go wild around this afternoon's decision. As Nanex shows, the last few years has seen lower and lower liquidity on Fed days as the pattern of liquidity collapse intraday provides just the ammunition for the instant buying-panic in the first 2 minutes after the decision.

Equity traders seem extremely complacent...

 

Which is bad news as liquidity has been tumbling on Fed days in recent years...

 

But there is only one pattern the algos know... Instantly buy! No Matter What!

 

But 1415ET-1430ET is the best cumulative performing period on Fed days...

 

 

Easy eh? Or will it be different this time... 7 years after ZIRP began?

 

Charts: Bloomberg and @NanexLLC

 

- advertisements -

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Wed, 12/16/2015 - 13:46 | 6931195 Maplehood
Maplehood's picture

If Raise Rates: Then Sell Gold

If Not Raise Rates: Then Sell Gold

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:00 | 6931265 CPL
CPL's picture

They are going to print more money from thin air long before they raise interest rates.  And they will still be dropping the price of PM's because they can.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:08 | 6931307 slaughterer
slaughterer's picture

If Es is not 1800 by 3:59 pm, then it will be 2080/2090 on the way to new all time highs.  

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:55 | 6931555 GernB
GernB's picture

Lol, a 200+ point drop... what, it's only 10% in one day.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:22 | 6931391 Squid Viscous
Squid Viscous's picture

like shooting gefiltefish in a barrell

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 13:46 | 6931197 Newsboy
Newsboy's picture

I just can't react that fast these days...

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 13:46 | 6931198 Fidel Sarcastro
Fidel Sarcastro's picture

They buy everything all at once, then they sell everything all at once.  Rinse & repeat.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 13:54 | 6931242 KnuckleDragger-X
KnuckleDragger-X's picture

They are basically shaving pennies on their trades, but somebody has to buy and the herd is thinning fast. I expect that the algo's will eat themselves and each other in the end.......

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:21 | 6931385 DetectiveStern
DetectiveStern's picture

I always suspected there's a fair amount of wash trades when the algos ramp things up.

 

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 13:48 | 6931210 SillySalesmanQu...
SillySalesmanQuestion's picture

Just BTFD...for two or three milliseconds.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 13:53 | 6931231 buzzsaw99
buzzsaw99's picture

the word is pragmatic, not complacent.

if you do not btfd then you are a fucking idiot

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:26 | 6931411 DetectiveStern
DetectiveStern's picture

It's not a pyramid scheme you idiot, it's a buy the dip scheme you feel me?

Man I love that video.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 13:57 | 6931252 youngman
youngman's picture

I bet we have a 500 point roundtrip today..at least..and more tomorrow

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:05 | 6931293 rapetrain
rapetrain's picture

Probably round-trip to 0 net change if they raise, and +500 Dow if they don't raise. Because if they don't raise today, it's like saying they will never raise.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:16 | 6931359 NoVa
NoVa's picture

... But this time is different...

/s/

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:28 | 6931416 Squid Viscous
Squid Viscous's picture

on the SPX?

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 13:58 | 6931259 Amish FinEng
Amish FinEng's picture

Oh I'm buying and selling, buying and selling, arbing some handles, got my Squawk on and my charts with my top secret forumlas(fibs in the basket). Yea Bitchez! Trading is cool!

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:00 | 6931269 mtndds
mtndds's picture

+1  I totally agree.  Hell no this market will not go down.  The FEDERAL RESERVE will make sure of it.  Must keep the illusion alive.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:03 | 6931282 Bastiat
Bastiat's picture

And short gold an silver futures, of course.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:04 | 6931284 rapetrain
rapetrain's picture

I don't think they will raise.

Even if they did — and they won't — 0.25% will hardly make a difference, since it's priced in (the street estimates what, 75%+ chance that they will raise?)

It will be like Japan. Even if they raised 0.25, they will have to drop rates back to 0 very soon thereafter.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:20 | 6931379 Thisisbullishright
Thisisbullishright's picture

So panic buy at 2:00 P.M. ET?

Got it!

 

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:57 | 6931566 GernB
GernB's picture

Yes, whether they raise rates or not.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:24 | 6931405 gcjohns1971
gcjohns1971's picture

To raise or not to raise?

Except the question is academic.

The nominal rate of a defaulting debt is an academic exercise.  And the disappearance of liquidity and crash in the velocity of money that happened in 2008 was the defaulting of the world-wide debt-based fiat ponzi scheme.  

Due to size and the closing of all the escape hatches the default has simply been happening in slow motion.  And it will continue in slow motion until we return to the dark ages, or until we reject the authorities' whose idiocy or perversity is the source of the problem.

The default is happening at ZIRP...and maybe an iota faster at 25bp.

But, really, the rest of the difference is psychological.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:32 | 6931432 Janet Shalom Be...
Janet Shalom Bernanke's picture

I will lick the sweat off the doves' balls at this press conference, and our trading desk will be shoveling your tax dollars into the market furnace.  We are intent on destroying the dollar anyway, so what's the difference.   Strap in, I'm gonna show you how great the e-con-o-me  is.   

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:35 | 6931447 DirkDiggler11
DirkDiggler11's picture

Long - Ammo, Food, Whiskey, Gold, and Silver

Short - my fucking patience with this manipulated bullshit.

HANG THE FED !

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:37 | 6931460 Janet Shalom Be...
Janet Shalom Bernanke's picture

It's actually quite astounding, even us crooks at the Fraudulent Reserve are amazed:

Here we cause repeated market crises, are given the power to make banks and financial institutions spend tens of millions of dollars to build systems to "stress test" their portfolios to model how much money they will lose when the next market crash comes, and the public sheeple hang on our every utterance as if we are gods!!  

Only in Amerika could such a fantastical dream like this occur!

 

 

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 14:54 | 6931547 uncle_vito
uncle_vito's picture

Yes.  The powers that be are definitely going to let the market zoom today after the announcement.   Obvious moves seldom happen.

Do NOT follow this link or you will be banned from the site!