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The Humiliation Is Complete: Assad Can Stay, Kerry Concedes After Meeting With Putin
Back on September 20 (so, a full ten days before a three star Russian general strolled into the US Embassy in Baghdad to let the US know that airstrikes in Syria “start in 1 hour”), we said that the US strategy in Syria had officially unraveled.
At the time, John Kerry had just concluded a meeting with British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond in London. "For the last year and a half we have said Assad has to go, but how long and what the modality is, that's a decision that has to be made in the context of the Geneva process and negotiation,” Kerry told reporters after the meeting. "It doesn't have to be on day one or month one [and] there is a process by which all the parties have to come together and reach an understanding of how this can best be achieved."
“That this a far, far cry from the hardline rhetoric the US was still clinging to just months ago,” we said, adding that “it marks a tacit recognition of what should have been obvious from the very beginning: the US backed effort to assist Qatar and the Saudis in destabilizing the Assad regime was doomed from the start.”
About a month later, ahead of talks in Vienna, WSJ said the following about Washington's plans for Assad:
The Obama administration entered a crucial round of international talks on Syria’s war prepared to accept a deal that leaves President Bashar al-Assad in place for several months or more during the transition to a new government.
The U.S. shift on the dictator’s future caps months of backtracking on the most significant obstacle to a resolution of the Syrian conflict. While U.S. officials once argued Mr. Assad couldn’t take part in a political transition, they have gradually eased that stance, eventually signaling he wouldn’t have to step down immediately. Now they are planning to negotiate the question of his future in talks being held Friday in Vienna.
The solution Washington sought to broker would “not prejudge the Assad question,” a senior administration official told The Journal.
Of course the Assad "question" has already been "prejudged" - only not by Washington or any of its regional allies. As we've been at pains to explain, Tehran isn't going to allow a US puppet government to be installed in Damascus. It's out of the question. Losing Damascus to Washington and worse, to Riyadh, would severely impair Iran's supply lines to Hezbollah and roll back Iranian influence in the region. For Russia, the stakes are also high. Moscow now has an air base and a naval base in Syria and establishing a foothold in Syria is the first step for The Kremlin on the way to supplanting the US as Mid-East superpower puppet master. In short, even is Assad himself ultimately abdicate, the regime (and our apologies for anyone who finds that term pejorative) will remain in one form or another.
On Tuesday, Kerry was in Russia for talks with Vladimir Putin. As Foreign Policy notes, America's top diplomat was "wicked psyched" that he found a Dunkin Donuts in Moscow:
As for negotiations with Putin over Syria, it appears the humiliation is now complete.
As AP reports, "U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry on Tuesday accepted Russia's long-standing demand that President Bashar Assad's future be determined by his own people, as Washington and Moscow edged toward putting aside years of disagreement over how to end Syria's civil war."
"The United States and our partners are not seeking so-called regime change," Kerry said, adding that the focus is no longer "on our differences about what can or cannot be done immediately about Assad."
In a testament to the fact that mainstream media is beginning to understand just how weak America's negotiating position has become, AP offered the following rather sarcastic assessment:
President Barack Obama first called on Assad to leave power in the summer of 2011, with "Assad must go" being a consistent rallying cry. Later, American officials allowed that he wouldn't have to resign on "Day One" of a transition. Now, no one can say when Assad might step down
Kerry also called demands by the "moderate" opposition that Assad step down before peace negotiations begin an "obvious nonstarter."
But even as Kerry and Sergei Lavrov hailed the talks as a "big negotiating day," Lavrov's de facto deputy, the sharp-tongued Maria Zakharova, stressed that "serious differences" remain between the US and Russia with regard to Syria.
One point of contention is Washington's insistence on differentiating between "moderate" and "non-moderate" elements operating to oust the Assad government.
That and other pressing issues are expected to be discussed next week in New York at what Kerry says will be a "major international conference" on Syria.
As for relations between Moscow and Washington, Kerry said this: "There is no policy of the United States, per se, to isolate Russia."
Right. No "per se" policy. So in other words, it may not be an explicit, de jure mandate, but it sure as hell seems like a tacit, de facto foreign policy position.
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The US never ever speaks truth. When will Russia learn...
The Ketchup Boy came out of the meeting with his mouth full of Russian dressing. ;-)
Looney
While all those warmongering POTUS-wannabes debate each other….
Six US F-15 fighter jets temporarily deployed to Turkey’s Incirlik Airbase will begin returning to the Lakenheath Airbase in Great Britain, the United States European Command Headquarters said in a news release Wednesday.
And with THAT the Russian NFZ (No-Fly Zone) over the Western half of Syria has been completed. ;-)
Looney
so then this is definitely "bearish-ish" for silver and gold, right? ;-)
I'm still hoping the monkies will hammer silver close to 13/oz today after the Fed announcement so I can off-load some dry powder. But this new news should be another great reason for lower paper PM's if past is prologue.
Now get off my lawn!
Instead of "humiliation"... let's just call it "a moment of clarity".
There's more clarity to come, wait until Turkey gets their marching orders.
Veils of Strong American Leadership shrouding the Clowns in Charge Squeezing themselves into the Tiny Car.
These fuckers should be squeegeeing windows on East 107th street
The US has said Assad can stay?
The US also said NATO would not expand eastwards to threaten Russia.
Ignore what the US says, look at what it does.
They are probably happy for Assad to stay and Russia too. However, the US will keep supplying the remnants of ISIS in Syria with weapons just to preserve the current level of destabilization.The link between Iran and Syria will be broken by putting Saudi boots on the ground in northern Iraq.
"There is no policy of the United States, per se, to isolate Russia."
John Kerry, why do you degrade yourself by outright lying to the entire world? Anyone that lies lacks intelligence because lying ASSUMES the other party is more ignorant than you, so as to believe the tripe. But here's the thing: Most are on to what you are doing and your ME policy. So you Sir, are showing the world your incredible ignorance and lack of aptitude by lying.
The above statement has been proven false by .gov actions. The sanction alone against Russia are a clue. Memory loss John?
.Gov is in freefall. Can't even keep their lies straight anymore. At least they could 20 years ago, not so much anymore.
Speaking of lying, the GOP debate last night was chock full of bold faced liars.
Hard to believe, but the only people even coming close to telling the truth about anything were Trump and Paul and possibly Carson. The rest of them lied through their teeth all might long. How Rubio, Cruz, Fiorino, Bush, etc...get any public support is mindboggling.
GOP: "Warmongers are Us!".
Tough to win a negotiation when your dealing with Putin, The Immortal ...
http://6th-sense.net/index.php/mystery-articles/71-vladimir-putin-is-imm...
Putin, Rasputin...same guy!
Let's break down that name shall we?!
Ras-putin :D
shocker. nyc/dc go to war under false pretenses
more likely it was about the evacuation of millions off of land that israel covets
the invasion of europe/US is secondary benefit
If those fuckers say at the same day, that
- there´s no isolation of Russia,
- Assad can stay,
i would open all silos and truck hatches.
Re Howdy: " Ignore what the US says, look at what it does."
They fall for it every time. The US is building an airbase IN Syria. Turkey has moved troops INTO Syria. Even the Putin fan club do not remember what they said previously - That Turkey had to have the US assist with flight tracking to ambush Putin's jet and shoot it down. That the US/Massad was involved in taking down Russia's airliner. And we all know just a week ago the US flew into Syria and bombed a Syrian military base and then just for laughs said that it was Russia who did it.
Yesterday ZH posted a shameless article from Pepe about how invincible Russia's military was. Now ZH pens their own article about how the US/NATO/Zionist have conceded to Putin's wishes. Which is just what TPTB want people to believe. (How is that "peace plan" supposedly forced by Putin working out in Uke?)
Another idiot turkey troops are not at al present in syria. Syrian Army with the help of Russian airtrikes and Iran has reached till Syrian borser with Turkey and rest US ain't building any airfield in syria with kurds. They are operating from Turkey base. US sent few soldiers to train kurds in order to fight sandmonkeys. Get your drivel right.
Turkey not only invaded Iraq but also Syria. The troops took positions inside of Syria and have remained. I tried to keep an eye out for indications of any actions by Putin against those troops and there is no evidence it has occured.
Many days ago the troops in Iraq were given 48 hrs to leave or Iraq was going to have Russia address it with force. Everybody got excited about how those troops better run. The deadline came and went and nothing.
And I am afraid you need to read the articles even published on ZH. The US has begun the process of establishing a new airbase in NE Syria.
Did you see when Kerry was shaking Putin's hand the other day? I didn't think Lurch would ever let go. Putin looked kind of worried - like it would be OK to chew his arm off at the wrist if he could save the rest of himself and get away from that freak.
The Russians spiked Kerry's donuts with polonium. He gnawed on a couple and happily exclaimed, "Hey.. sprinkles! Just like mom use to give me!"
>The Russians spiked Kerry's donuts with polonium.
Wishful thinking on your part, but I wholeheartedly share the sentiment.
I would have expected they would strap a bag of oats on that ass.
Without scaffolding.
The policy has been narrowed to just defeating ISIS, the publics concern. Probably decided when Obama was briefed at the Pentagon the other day. Including regime change in Syria proved imaginary and only possible on Power Point slides at State. The task is still challenging and fraught with agency entangelments excluding Russia, Iran, Syria and politics in the region.
Why does Obama say ISIL? The “L” means Levant which includes Israel and Israel must be protected/supported. It also broadens (justifies) the area of operations.
I think the new policy is to defeat ISIS yes, but mostly to take it's place and establish a "wall" between between Syria and Iraq so that Iran can't reach Liban anymore.
The policy hasnt changed at all! The only difference is that it will be the "new" Saudi-led "coalition" that will carry out the "regime Change" policy of the US/Israel. As usual the US can use proxy's in their wars and try to appear "peaceful" and try and fool the world by saying the US doesnt want regime change...but their allies DO and will still be armed by the US to carry out that regime change. So if Saudi & Co invade Syria and Iraq etc, the US will be able to say it is the Saudi's who want regime change.
It is a "coalition" that will not only take on Russia and Iran for the US via Syria and Iraq, but will by all means possible become the new ISIS air force and ground troops.
dressing? :)
Obama and Kerry should be prized by their masters, both of them are doing great job. They are destroying US almost at lightning speed
Their puppetters and the sleeping average Joe have been doing a far better job for more than a century now. This is the result of failed policies which were created and implemented from a position of pure hubris. You may call it very justifiable and deserved karma. After all you the average Joe Smith can't leave forever from the pilaging of other nations, it was in your and your ancestor hands to take them down, but confortable living has been to enticing.
Now, we get clarity as to the meaning of "tell Vlad I'll have more flexibilty after the election". Obama to Medvedev.
Not fast enough, some would argue. That way, the 'Support our Mercs' can go home, and the world can rebuild and heal.
What they'd do for a living is a different matter, since they learned little that is useful outside of jobs.gov and ever more people's incomes are dependent on the gov.
Nope. It is actually the fastest possible speed, due the resilience in the system. And what they can't do, the neocons will.
My respect level for Kerry just hit a new low!
DUNKIN DONUTS!
WTF John? Can you make ANY good decisions?
The WORST FUCKING COFFEE and those iced Corporate Foam Circles/pads are absolute shit!
Guy is loaded and he eats that shit? Is he that fucking cheap or just that stupid to think eating at DDs will make me believe "he's just like me" because he eats Corporate Shit Food?
He's probably getting s spiff to shill that stuff on an official visit.
Dunkie's has fallen far. Time was when the vanilla cremes were fresh - and sublime. And the coffee was well constructed to wash down three or four of these.
Relax you nutjob..he's just getting a donut. I'd love to see pictures of a day in your life...imagine all the dumb shit you do daily. On second thought I'll pass on that shit show.
"pictures of a day in your life"
Picture the "American Dream" of a 50hr work week, a go nowhere job, an asshole fucking boss, backstabing co-workers, traffic jams, debt you'll never pay off...11hrs a day donated to earning money to buy shit and pay debts...flip that picture 180...and that's "a day in my life".
You can tell a lot about a guy by looking at the Donuts and Coffee he consumes...
I'm with Firebrander. This is not just a donut. In fact it's not a donut at all.
Look at this embarrassment: INGREDIENTS: Donut: Enriched Unbleached Wheat Flour (Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Iron as Ferrous Sulfate, Thiamin Mononitrate, Enzyme, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Palm Oil, Water, Dextrose, Soybean Oil, Whey (a milk derivative), Skim Milk, Yeast, Contains less than 2% of the following: Salt, Leavening (Sodium Acid Pyrophosphate, Baking Soda), Defatted Soy Flour, Wheat Starch, Mono and Diglycerides, Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Cellulose Gum, Soy Lecithin, Guar Gum, Xanthan Gum, Artificial Flavor, Sodium Caseinate (a milk derivative), Enzyme, Colored with (Turmeric and Annatto Extracts, Beta Carotene), Eggs; Glaze: Sugar, Water, Maltodextrin, Contains 2% or less of: Mono and Diglycerides, Agar, Cellulose Gum, Citric Acid, Potassium Sorbate (Preservative), Artificial Flavor.
Translation: Cheap shit to boost our profits and kill you.
Unbelievable. There isn't an authentic Russian pastry joint he could have tried?
Avoiding Polonium
Brain bleach, stat!
Whole world loves Russian salad
No party is complete w/o it
Oh believe me - Russia knows the U.S. lies, cheats and steals. Lately Putin has even begun to expose the American leadership as the spineless shitheads they are.
The wolf wears a sheep's pelt - Russian Proverb.
I thought he wears a suit, a smile and a yamulke.
this whole charade was the zios angling to expand their border into syrian territory
the mass evacuation was 'clearing land'
They are all a bunch of liars greedy for power. To think one is more honest than the other is foolish.
I want to know what singer Kerry brought to serenade Vlad with...maybe Jonie Mitchell ....I'm sure Putin would have preferred Metallica.
I'm sure Putin would have preferred Metallica...
Hmmm ... he always struck me as a Pantera kinda guy ;)
Nah. Ministry and FNM.
well, see here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7OrXHEpSO0
'Fight Club' Louna
Pussy Riot, surely?
Thought I read once that one of his favorite bands was Deep Purple.
Could have been some other Russian, I don't recall now exactly.
Louna Invasion 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vj4j-2ronQ
So, hate to say this...but Trump is right again? He said Assad should stay while ISIS is being eradicated. Then, once that is complete, a look into the Assad regime should be conducted. Says we should only do one thing at a time. Is everyeone (including Obama) stealing Trump's ideas?
Kerry said "The United States and our partners are not seeking so-called regime change".
In the interests of consistency and fairness, the mass media should now condemn Mr Kerry for effectively declaring his support for Syria's "brutal mass-murdering dictator".
Not holding my breath though.
Trump has been 'right' whenever his stated views coincided with the large number of somewhat aware and dissafected Americans who adore him, but unfortuinately he has been spectacularly wrong when those views of both his and that group who are not as right about it all as they would like to believe either, get it wrong, which they do about the nature of the threat facing the USA today.
Did Putin threaten to expose the whole agenda......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/is-russian-presiden...
Kerry:
Assad can stay if you let us keep the West side for our oil pipelines.
Putin: Deal!
(In his mind). Mwahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Maybe I am missing something, because I thought that Russia just cleaned the US clock again with brilliance, elegance and dignity, and I mean again, after an unbroken series of rounds now since the match began in earnest. That being the case, it would seem that Russia isn't the one in need of learning here and that Russian leadership may in fact be seen as examples and the teachers this time.
please dont break your leg again while buying dunkin donuts
It's okay,,, he has Taxpayer healthcare not ObamaCare.
Your concern is noted though.
So, from "Red Line" to "He can Stay"... what a feckless and ignorant administation.
It's almost like admitting none of this was ever about Assad...almost.
you've almost figured it out
There´s still the ghost pipeline.
How much blood and treasure has been spent?
And how much more on the next failed meddling?
"blood and treasure" spending will end when we've finished "God's work" by delivering "Freedom and Democracy" to all those worshiping "False Gods".
~~~~~~~
"Of course they (Muslim Terrorists) pray to a false God, otherwise, they wouldn't be killing innocent lives" - Goerge W. Bush.
~~~~~~~
'I am driven with a mission from God'. God would tell me, 'George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan'. And I did. And then God would tell me 'George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq'. And I did."
"And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, 'Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East'. And, by God, I'm gonna do it." - Goerge W. Bush.
Noine of your business citizen, get back to work so the installments for the loans for the last 3 wars can be paid and we can get another one rolling before the guns get rusty.
And these fuckers aren't even embarrassed. Absolutely pathetic.
KERRY: "Assad has to go or there will be war...."
PUTIN: "Have you seen NATO drills? You lose. Assad stays. Now got tell Turkish dog to place back in dogpound or we put him down like Rabies Hound."
Kerry Looks like LURCH from the Adams Family..
Fucking Sad Days to be an American..
The US Secretait of State looks like Lurch ?
Did Lurch need a farrier and always wear a feedbag ?
Lurch had better confirmation as well.
"A Weasle's Life" the John Kerry story. The saga of a "man" who climbs to the top on the backs of his comrades in arms and a dead senate colleague"s wife. I think I will puke now.
The saga of a man who climbs naked, blindfolded, into a coffin, and proceeds to tell his sexual secrets to his 'brothers' while they... How do I put this... Masturbate... And then afterwards you can say "I'm part of the Skull & Bones, but its so secret I can't talk about it"
Ah, give Kerry a carrot.
He prefers potatos.
On a serious note, I hope at least some sanity prevails.
Rather see him get a big stick.
Does what Kerry says have any weight in the Administration?
What they do versus what they say ...
What the heck is Vicky Nuland doing in Russia? I thought she was No.1 on Russia's most dangerous terrorist watch list?
im curious what happend to nudelmann. havent seen her jewish snout in months
That dried up nasty neocon cunt went to Russia with Kerry. She is in some of the photos with Lavrov. Fuck her!
did you see the size of her?
a good part of that is cortisol - she cant handle the pressure building - she is about to be ejected!
Is that until the anti-ISIS arab coalition army (most of whom actually back ISIS) invade Syria and Iraq under the pretext of hunting down the aforementioned?
Will you fuckwits at Langley stop playing the public for imbeciles? Its getting ridiculous, FFS.
Putin has already stated that using battlefield nukes is on the table.
I pity any grunt in that coalition.
Putin 1, Ziocons 0
Uh huh. But how many airdrops today for your beloved headchoppers, Senor Caballo?
All Kerry concedes is that his Great Success hasn't happened, yet.
"Per se..." He may as well have whinnied, for all this phrase elucidates.
"We must continue the airdrops of munitions and weapons to ISIS. Meanwhile, our Secret Service is staging a number of false flags to persuade Americans to surrender their gunz. If that fails, I have my pen and phone."
"Sir, it may fail. Americans will reach a breaking point and result to arms."
"That's OK. I have secured 1 million tons of Sarin Gas to exterminate these pests. Our Hispanic and Muslim invaders will soon take over. The studies from Chemtrails have shown the most effective way of liquidating these flyover vigilantes. Soon, we will have all Americans in Flyover Country liquidated by WMDs. I can only imagine the sweet smell of Death!
"Americans and their Movies! I will show them what a real 'Mancurian Candidate' is!"
"We were humiliated by some folk-skys"
-O-lawn-jockey
What does the chimney sweeper have to say? Ahh - who cares. Next headline.
Tel Aviv: "Let's put a nigger in the White House."
AIPAC: "Hell, no, niggers are too stupid. Get that Indonesian guy you are really pushing. He has dark skin. US niggers will think he is black!"
"He has no wife. No street cred. Dammit, he's a known homosexual in Chicago! Rahm goes to the same Gay club!"
"Yes, but he does have a real Afro-American tranny boyfriend. Get her fixed up and run them as a team. Rent the kids from an orphanage!"
Tel Aviv: "You're right! Bath House it shall be!"
AIPAC: "Make sure the Diebold Machines are set right!"
Tel Aviv: "Penny and George are already on it! We have spent too much money planning to disarm the Americans. We need a guy who will Do The Job!"
Meeeh, methinks you got it ala front row seat brer rabbit.
As canny a telling as could be when you tell it like that.
)(
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Russia is now the Dominant Player in the ME.
The USSA may try to retaliate thru Ukraine, but that option is losing steam.
The Perfidy of the Atlanticists is on Full Display.
They still wish to maintain power by the proxy 'Saudi Army' and disarming Americans.
lower it goes the better it looks
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Where's that photo of him handing Idaho potatoes to the Russian delegation in both hands.
This guys words are as long term as a fart in a crosswind.
Putin scores another goal or Kerry scores an own goal?
Vlad: "You give better head than Bath House, John."
JKF: "Thanks, Vlad!"
Kerry whinnies and knickers at the thought of Dunkin Donuts as a western mole in Moscow. Then he forgets that horses can't have that much sugar and falls into a fairytale-coma for the next 100 years...
...an own goal. Perfect description.
Serious question(s): Is america's FSA large enough & active enough to elect HRC? Does the GOP nominee even matter?
Consider an impending gen. election cycle in which HRC's baggage will be unpacked and run up the flag pole for all to see/hear, including:
Arab Spring 'diplomacy'
Treasonous record as SoS - private email server, multiple security breaches, favors for 'friends'
Clinton Foundation slush fund/bribes/etc.
ACA disaster - a noxious weed that HRC planted back in '93
TPP sell-out & flip-flop
Wall St. relations
HRC's own misogyny
sham of a marriage/Bill's slimy friends
8 years of Dem. executive - HRC now OWNS this rancid record/legacy, both foreign & domestic
I like to think that no candidate could possibly survive such an abysmal track record, but something in my gut tells me that the FSA could still deliver for Hillary, even if she ran the remainer of her campaign from a prison cell. She may end up pardoning herself on her first day as president.
Judo = same thing
One should never trust lying Horseface with carrot in his mouth...
You cannot trust an Obama agreement. He is a liar. It only means the US will fund ISIS more.
As if Bush, Reagan, Clinton, or the rest of the cowards that have occupied the white house were better, or in control. Since JFK, the White House is just a figure head, Obama has no power he is not given.
What makes Obama worse than the rest? They all work for zionist jews
Well, he is the greasiest of that crew. So, there's that.
The last president unwilling to suck Israeli cock was Carter. He forced terrorist Prime Minister Begin to make peace with Egypt. Zionists the world over still despise him for his even handed approach.
So Obama, clinton, Rubio, Jeb and the rest of the progressives destabalized Syria and help isis go wolrd wide and failed at their utopian goals... Great.. They must be the smartest people in the room
"Progressives", what the fuck are you talking about, they are ZIONISTS, nothing more, nothing less.
Neo-liberal maybe, but what makes them progressive? Destabilizing the world is not progressive, its zionist.
Putin is drinking your milkshake! You boy! You child!
+1 for the reference. Made me want to throw a bowling pin!
Frankenstein cornered at the burning windmill again.
If only.
Per se, de facto, de jure........de fuk? Haven't seen that much Latin in one article since The Christian Brothers declared the annual running of the alter boys as a holy day of obligation
If Assad stays in Syria, then Russia STAYS in Syria. This is a win for the Russia-Iran axis in the Middle East.
The Sunni's in the Gulf know the implications immediately.
Eventually the Sunni and Shia will fight together.
Eventually the Sunni and Shia will fight together.
certain Sunni....not the wahabbi takfiris etc
Syrian Military is many Sunni...
When does obamas trial begin?
Memo's on Russian weapons/capability and strategic locations within the Syrian 'theatre' relayed to Kerry most definitely had a hand in this 'negotiation' - likely without even having to be broached by Lavrov.
Nothing like an S400 aimed at your rectum to capitulate
Kerry is doing a good job considering the evil within the US Gov. Kerry would make a good president.
I usually agree with you.
by the way do you guys know? the younger klitschko (criminal ukarainian jew) lost hil last fight against fury
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Fury
they deleted all the videos of the fight from youtube
Tyson Fury and the Elephant in the Room
mass media do not show him as much as possle
beating klitschko is the greatest sensation since lenox, yet there is no word about him, as if he does not exist
he also said that gays are no good for society and compared gays to podos and metally sick people
he was attacked by several british faggots for saying that
fury was the first non-corruptable boxer klitschko encountered in years
lucky he beat the shit out of the ukrainian jew and destroyed the corrupt boxing fairy tail
i hope he will knock out klitschko in the rematch
(its still possible klitschko lost on purpose to trick the betting mafia, all of them set their huge bets on klitschko.
this would give kiltschko a huge amount of money)
klitschko very overrated
check out Vitaly Minakov..
MMA works with Fedor, who returns Dec 31
New Years Eve SPIKE TV free fight for US as far as I know
klitschko should be diqualified several times
look at his fight with povetkin. i dont know if the video is aviable in your region:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxF4QzdEDnQ
for example at 25:11 klitschko is jumping on povetkin and the referee does nothing
clear rule is disqualification after ther 3rd time of donig this!
you can not jump on your opponent in boxing and try to wrestle him - its forbidden
if you watch the fight you will see klitschkos fighting style is really dirty
yes mafiya owned
Tyson Fury's world championship belt that he fairly and decisively won was immediately stripped from him by the IBF 10 days after his victory! His mistake was to challenge the Neo-Con EU NWO & it sure looks like his first defeat by a knock-out! A brave & courageous but foolish man! He is now done like dinner!
Kerry should run after Hillary is charged. Biden is a moron
Billions and billions of dollars and a few hundred thousand lives and a country torn up and then this? For what? This kind of ineptitude is criminal. Should people trust their government to know what the heck they are doing? Not at all.
Someone shoujld go to prison....
OK..... who was caught fucking the dead pig carcass?
"per-se",while being an ally to the head-choppers in Saudi Arabia and helping to establish terrorist groups around the globe.Kerry,John "war-monger" McCain,Hillary Clinton...What a gang of goddamn idiots that have completly destroyed whole countries.
Let these gang leaders be humiliated in their interpersonal contests with each other for more power and turf. The alternative, that their egos be defended and advanced, comes at the cost of our blood and earnings.
Gang leaders, yep. If you want to understand geopolitics, study the actions of thugs, the mafia, gangstas, but just remember that there are just as many thug lawyers and bankers as there are toughs.
and psychopaths
Vicky, here is a special drink for you, in Russia we call it poloniumiskie
'The Phony Litvinenko Murder' William Dunkerley
sure but Vikky needs one
She will need to London travel.
US removes F 15's from Turkey today, content to let Saudi now start war with Russia and get out of the way
Link please?
Secty. Kohn is a snake; to say I don't trust him is to say the least. My precious OGZPY is only up $.03 so the market is not buying it much.
My only dissapointment is that Putin did not push for the US to allow Maria Zakharova to run for POTUS.
I'd vote for her! A hellava lot better than a certain Clinton.
hoax and chains
when is the plan contingent on: "obama & kerry HAVE TO GO"
Vladimir Putin offers Donald Trump fans a glimpse of the possible The Financial Times, just wondering if they could be reading ZH, of course not