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A Majority Of Americans Oppose "Assault Weapons Ban" – Highest Number On Record

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

 

The person who bothers me the most on this entire topic is Mayor Michael Bloomberg, of my hometown NYC.  You can tell when someone is disingenuous if they freak out over gun violence like it is the biggest issue in America today and at the same time protect the banksters and their “too big to fail” culture, which has and continues to systemically steal trillions of dollars from the poor.  This is Michael Bloomberg to a tee, so this man should have no credibility on any moral subject when he protects and coddles the most dangerous criminal organizations on this planet.  I guess there is something “liberal” about white collar crime.

 

The other way to spot a hypocrite is to see whether they ever speak out about other acts of violence, or if they only open their mouths when it comes to gun incidents.  I see this attitude all over the “fake left” landscape. If someone you know, or someone in the media never decries American drones strikes that kill children regularly in the forgotten parts of the globe, yet jumps at every gun incident like it is the end of the world, that person has an agenda. That person hates guns, not necessarily violence.  They do not have a clear head in this argument.

 

– From the post: How to Spot a Hypocrite in the Gun Debate and Other Reflections on Newtown

U.S. President Barack Obama is not just the world’s best gun salesman, he’s also the world’s worst gun control spokesperson.

Despite immediately politicizing every single shooting event in recent years by using his bully pulpit to lecture the American public on why citizens must give up their rights to feel safe, his message has fallen on deaf ears. Why?

Mainly because a man who consistently orders drone strikes on women and children all over the world, intentionally bombs a Doctors Without Borders hospital into oblivion, and who launched more shady wars across the globe than George W. Bush, doesn’t exactly hold much credibility as a humanitarian pacifist looking to “save the children.”

Beyond this obvious hypocrisy, his gun control “sales pitch” is generally void of any logic whatsoever. For the perfect example, read the post: How Obama is Using the Grossly Unconstitutional “No Fly List” to Push Gun Control.

Meanwhile, countless Americans have no doubt watched the following video, in which the White House Press Secretary stumbles and stutters in a embarrassing attempt to answer a reporter’s simple questions on the potential effectiveness of Obama’s “common sense” gun control measures.

Put all of this together, and you get the following. From ABC News:

A majority of Americans oppose banning assault weapons for the first time in more than 20 years of ABC News/Washington Post polls, with the public expressing vast doubt that the authorities can prevent “lone wolf” terrorist attacks and a substantial sense that armed citizens can help.

 

Just 45 percent in this national survey favor an assault weapons ban, down 11 percentage points from an ABC/Post poll in 2013 and down from a peak of 80 percent in 1994. Fifty-three percent oppose such a ban, the most on record.

To see just how dramatically public perception has changed, take a look at this chart:

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Indeed, while the division is a close one, Americans by 47-42 percent think that encouraging more people to carry guns legally is a better response to terrorism than enacting stricter gun control laws. Divisions across groups are vast, underscoring the nation’s gulf on gun issues.

 

There’s lopsided agreement on another concern: Just 22 percent express confidence in the government’s ability to prevent lone-wolf terrorist attacks, with 77 percent skeptical about it. Confidence in the government’s ability to stop a large-scale organized terrorist attack is much higher, albeit still well short of a majority -– 43 percent.

 

The results of this survey, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates, point to a shift away from the position favored by Barack Obama and others who responded to the recent attack in San Bernadino, California, by calling for stricter gun control measures. Notably, in a statistical analysis, Obama’s overall job approval rating is the single strongest factor in views on an assault weapons ban.

 

The increase in opposition to banning assault weapons since 2013 peaks in some groups -– up 18 points among strong conservatives, 17 points among higher-income earners and 16 points in the generally more liberal Northeast. But it’s a broadly based trend. Many groups have moved from majority support for an assault weapons ban two years ago to majority opposition now: whites, 30- to 64-year-olds, suburbanites, political independents, moderates, residents of the West and Midwest, anyone without a post-graduate degree and those in $100,000-plus households.

No wonder he’s attempting to push gun control via executive action. Before trying to “spread democracy around the world,” I think Obama should take a long hard look in the mirror.

 

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Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:13 | 6933127 SILVERGEDDON
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No shit, Sherlock.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:16 | 6933144 Truther
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That guy in the nut house ought to be taught a lesson or 2 about guns.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:30 | 6933220 The Gooch
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MOLON LABE, Motherfuckers.
Last bastion.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:33 | 6933235 El Oregonian
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When he tells his body guards to put theirs down. I will put mine down. Until then... Stick it!

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:47 | 6933281 SWRichmond
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Many of you don't want to hear this...but imagine, had the NRA caved in (more than it did) and stopped fighting all the calls for gun bans, and had more "strident" pro gun rights groups not formed and lobbied, trhe USA would be in the condition of Australia, or even worse Great Britain.

Not bragging, but I'm old enough to remember this shit.  I'm old enough to have written letters to the editor, and sent mnoney to NRA-PVF, and gotten involved in all this shit back before even 18% opposed banning "assault weapons".

I have said it a million times, and will do so a million more: they just keep pushing people into the camp of the resistance, they can't help themselves. 

God bless Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, and the remarkably douchey Bush family, every goddamned one of them.  God bless that dickhead Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Jane Harmon, and what's-her-doucheface senator from Kommiefornia.

Free people own weapons, serfs and slaves may not.  Period.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:56 | 6933343 CheapBastard
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When Barry and/or Biden [or any POTUS or Vice-POTUS] can walk the streets and rub shoulders with the hoi poloi without a 1000+ bodyguards [like most other countries] then I'll turn in my pea shooter.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:01 | 6933373 The Carbonator
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You forgot that dirtbag Andrew Cuomo from New York State.  He rammed through that unSAFE Law in New York State.  I hope he gets testicular cancer, yeah THATS an assault prayer bitches!

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 23:05 | 6933602 Never One Roach
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Those reporters know how to ask some tough questions like inquiring about O'Bama's Attorny General Eric "Fast & Furious" Holder handing dozens of assault rifles to the Mescian drug gangsters.

 

I couldn't hear Josh's answer....

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 01:43 | 6933921 NidStyles
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Just picked up a new AK myself last week :-)

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 08:18 | 6934314 VinceFostersGhost
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Oppose "Assault Weapons Ban" – Highest Number On Record

 

Shall not be infringed bitchez....we don't care how many you kill......go to hell.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 08:53 | 6934406 kralizec
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Don't forget the gunwalking from Lybia to Syria that blew up in their faces aned got blamed on a video nobody knew about and resulted in the Benghazi Slaughter!  These fascist progs are great about letting everybody have guns but citizens.  And I would like to see opposition up closer to 60-65% on this!

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 23:20 | 6933645 FreeNewEnergy
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From a fellow New Yorker (upstate), Cuomo is the most liberal governor in the country, by far. Gun control and the $15/hour min. wage are just his opening salvos.

He's also a crony capitalist to the nth degree, making deals with big corps who want to close plants upstate to save the "jobs," i.e. taxes. Cuomo pays these corps with taxpayer money and than has the nerve to tax the people againto fund government pensions. Twisted, sick and perverse are words too kind for this miscreant born into a political dynasty.

He's easily the worse governor the state has ever had (though I do give him credit for the fracking ban, about the only good thing he's done), and hearing him speak is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.

Too bad we don't have term limits for governor. We could be stuck with Cuomo for a long time.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 02:48 | 6933981 I reckon so
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Logged in to cast upvote immediately when I saw "nth degree."  C'mon, then you say "...the worse governor...?"  Never mind, math is more important than English..... 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 03:06 | 6934000 A Nanny Moose
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Sadly...45% still want to be slaves.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 06:09 | 6934141 new game
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DUMB ASSes OR is it dumb fucks. i wouldn't mind having a slave clean the house, ect. oh wait. maybe there is a place for these, DUMB FUCKS...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 08:55 | 6934408 kralizec
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It's a point I'm trying to get at too.  If more people truly understood the implications like we do then that opposition number would be at least 12-17 points higher.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 09:08 | 6934443 Dkizzle49855
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Here is my take on the issue and it comes from a different perspective.  I work in the Powersports industry in which off-road motorcycles, ATV’s and UTV’s compose a large market share.  Over the last 30 plus years available legal riding areas on federal and state land continue to decrease due to pressure from Environmentalists and their friends in Congress or state governments.  What you need to understand if you already don’t have it figured out is this and this principle is what applies to gun control laws and why I oppose all of them even the ones that apply to your “common sense”.  The ultimate goal in regard to land use issues isn’t a modest reduction in legal riding areas, it’s the total elimination of all areas to the point legal use of off-road vehicles is prohibited.  Same goes for gun control and the ultimate goal of no guns for the common person in the U.S.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:12 | 6933384 stant
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Anybody with half a brain knows small arms is just force protection. You fuck stuff up by going after infrastructure . Famine kills more than force of arms in a civil war. As a southerner dont press the issue. Pay back for those county sized states in the north east that think they can rule the world would. Be ok with me given half a chance. So don't go there

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:46 | 6933545 El Vaquero
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Somebody gets it.  How long do you think DC would last when flyover country decided to stop providing it with food and oil?

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 23:12 | 6933619 tarabel
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The buildings, perhaps slightly burnt, should be there for quite some time.

With piles of bones out front where the cannibal hordes feasted on roast bureaucrat before starting on each other.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 03:12 | 6934007 OldPhart
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How high do we have to build the wall around DC?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 03:27 | 6934020 tarabel
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Domes are the thing or maybe something like the Sealed City of Trantor that Superman kept on his kitchen table.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 04:21 | 6934061 OldPhart
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There you go.  If the russians can seal up Chernobyl, we should be able to seal up DC.  Chernobyl is a radioactive mess, DC is merely a foul cesspool of bullshit, foul air, and charletans. It'd be a cinch.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:24 | 6936564 BearOfNH
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Close, but not quite right. Also sprach Wikipedia:

Kandor is the name of the former capital city of the planet Krypton in the DC Universe. It is best known for being miniaturized and then stolen by the supervillain Brainiac. Upon its recovery by Superman, it has been traditionally kept and monitored in the Fortress of Solitude.

 

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 23:13 | 6933624 Government need...
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Cant wait to watch them eat each other.  I'm wondering if the metrosexual Prius-driver screams for his 'Momma' as DeQuan clubs him like a baby seal.  

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 00:20 | 6933798 KJWqonfo7
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All those crowded cities full of people unprepared for whats coming their way.....

Reminds me of Democrats on an escalator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uffhVqum7P4

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 00:53 | 6933853 tarabel
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Very funny and true.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:14 | 6933130 Truther
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This is Biden's double barrel wish to his wife "shoot in the air" on the porch.

People waking up? Maybe.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:24 | 6933181 nmewn
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"Thats right Jill, when I'm outta town and some gang bangers break through the front door all ya gotta do is grab the ole double barrel shotgun, walk out onto our balconey and shoot two blasts into the air."

"Then you have a big ass expensive club, with beautifully engraved metal work and a real walnut stock to beat them about the head & shoulders with forcing them to flee the premises!" 

Our-Fucking-Hero-Joe

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:27 | 6933467 TeamDepends
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Then you have the anti-gunner douche who advised women who were about to be raped -not kidding- to piss themselves, in order to become unattractive to the rapist. Chew on that one for a minute.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:37 | 6933507 nmewn
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One can only imagine the advice a prog anti-gunner would give women confronted with the prospect of a serial anal rapist on the loose.

I can promise you if he ever ran up on Mrs.N he would be the one shitting his pants and she'd be the one laughing...lol.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 23:10 | 6933616 TeamDepends
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"Females in the area are strongly advised to keep 2-5 angry African Killer Bees in the bunghole region, as the rapist is apparently undeterred by human feces."

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 01:41 | 6933917 Implied Violins
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A (full) fake colostomy bag might work, though.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 23:02 | 6933594 tarabel
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Like anybody is ever going to get near the Vice President's wife, residence, or outhouse when the Secret Service comes boiling out of the second home on the property, which he owns but forces them to rent in order to protect him.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:15 | 6933132 Consuelo
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Oh well.   Back to the (False Flag) drawing board...   Practice makes perfect ya know...?

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:20 | 6933158 Truther
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Up against 100 Million guns? He needs a lot of practice, and hopefully by staring at the barrel.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:01 | 6933369 A Lunatic
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So far New York, Washington State, California, Colorado and Connecticut have rolled over at some level without so much as a whimper. Might want to revise that figure down to 68 million.........

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:17 | 6933431 Duc888
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Tale a look at how many CT residents did not "register" their firearms..... get back to me.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:23 | 6933451 A Lunatic
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I'm sure they are out shooting them every weekend at the range too......

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 00:56 | 6933857 beemasters
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Stoooopiiidd. They should realize banning any weapon is easier when there is less violence. The more violent false flags they implement, the more demand for guns that citizens will want and need to protect themselves.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:43 | 6933530 Freddie
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2015 Hunters licenses in the USA at 14.8 million

http://wsfrprograms.fws.gov/Subpages/LicenseInfo/HuntingLicCertHistory20...

42,535 in CT

535,915 in NY

281,201 in CO

180,829 in WA state

969,633 in "liberal" PA

74,067 in "liberal" NJ

592,125 in MN - a state with a Somali problem

165,781 in Maine - another state with a Somali issue

 

These licensed hunters pay a fee or tax to go out and kill.  Many have scoped .308 or similiar caliber rifles.  Some use a more silent bow and arrow.  Those are the guys and gals you really need to fear.

Maybe some day they will wake up, turnoff the TV , Facebook and stop cheering their Trayvon thugs and Jameis rapists ball players.

They are arguably the biggest army in the world and they know how to kill.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:59 | 6933583 tarabel
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One statistical word of caution. Those are hunting licenses, not hunters. One hunter often has many different licenses. Deer, Elk, Small Game, Duck, etc. 

On the other hand, there are many avid shooters who do not hunt or who do not get licenses when they do hunt. The true figures are probably much larger than yours indicate.

But I don't fear them at all. Ambitious tyrants might, but not me.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 04:52 | 6934083 TacticalZen
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Indeed.  See "Sin City Precision Shooters", Las Vegas, NV.  Making new friends at 1000+ yards.  Their matches are awesome and some of the best shooters in the country.  Maybe the world. 

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:15 | 6933134 nmewn
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Barack "Super Fly List" Obama.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 00:57 | 6933860 MANvsMACHINE
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Snuka might be offended by that.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:19 | 6933151 JustObserving
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Obama has bombed 7 countries - Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan and Pakistan

His covert war in Syria alone has cost the lives of 300,000 Syrians, injured 1,000,000 and created over 4,000,000 refugees.

He continues to double-tap drone women and children and wedding parties

Drones - good
Assault Weapons - bad

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:21 | 6933164 Truther
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Payback will be a bitch.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 23:07 | 6933608 Never One Roach
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isis is drooling at the thought of Barry importing another hundred thousands "refugees."

 

Makes me wonder how many "converts" they already have hidden away. Scary.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 05:19 | 6934102 Socratic Dog
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Payback will be for you and me, not for him.  That's the way things work.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:20 | 6933154 One And Only
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Guns don't kill people.

A car, fire, a bomb, a knife, a plane don't kill people either.

It's time to start putting mentally ill people in institutions like they used to, not allow them to commingle in society with the rest of the population and living on government support.

Islamic terrorists need to be gone after. I know freedom of religion but when large swaths of that population wants all non believers dead that represents a national security threat and solutions have to be implemented to curtail this.

You can ban guns till you're blue in the face but until you face the actual problems and take care of them there will always be mass casualty events.

The worst massacre at a school in the history  of the US was in 1927; the Bath massacre. Not a single bullet was fired.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:57 | 6933352 A Lunatic
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Someone armed with a machete can do more damage in a short time than some loony punk with a gun.....

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:58 | 6933357 Bring the Gold
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Yeah about those mental institutions the Reagan administration defunded them.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 00:59 | 6933866 beemasters
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"It's time to start putting mentally ill people in institutions like they used to"...instead of the White House.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:54 | 6933201 sixsigma cygnus...
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Maybe we should just start with a law banning murder...

 

Almost 33,000 Americans killed every year by cars, and not a word about that.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 05:21 | 6934105 Socratic Dog
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60,000 by central line infections, in hospitals.

I'll take my chances with the "terrorists".  Who don't exist, outside of the CIA and Mossad.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:28 | 6933202 Consuelo
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Guns were never the issue to begin with.   Control-Freakism was/is/always will be.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:28 | 6933206 MrNosey
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It is no secret that the UN through the US Government will keep pushing for gun control and use as many false flag incidents as it takes, to try and persuade the public to give up their guns voluntarily.

If this does not work, then a constant tightening of the law will make the purchasing and owning of guns, more and more difficult.

Well I say good luck with that, as this red line if crossed will result in a civil war and although that may be the intended outcome, I would not want to be on the receiving end of the backlash!

The intention is hidden in plain site within in the UN Agenda 2030 Document......

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/as-events-spiral-out-of-control-its-time-to-take-a-closer-look-at-agenda-2030-video-2472972.html

 

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 23:17 | 6933636 Government need...
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How many firearms will there be amongst the American public by the time they commence the gun-grab?  100 million?  500 million?  It wont be guns that are the shortage in any such scenario.  It will be the balls to aim, squeeze, and acquire the next target.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:30 | 6933214 ToSoft4Truth
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The Barrett Model 95 is a sweet rifle. 

I don’t have anywhere to shoot it. 

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:55 | 6933339 A Lunatic
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Desk Pop......

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:34 | 6933237 Catullus
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He's the worst thing that ever happened to the left in this country.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:36 | 6933249 Yen Cross
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  Josh Earnest, has got to be the biggest vagina, since Jay Carney.

 Bill O'Rielly is an "fucking clown" and completely, "out of touch" with reality! I'm conservative BIlly BOY!

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:36 | 6933255 boattrash
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Did anybody see the bill Obama signed that will release 100,000 1911 pistols for sale to the public. He's one bipolar motherfucker (no offense to good bi-polars). Notice the date, how ironic...

Link from Mid-South Shooters

http://www.mssblog.com/2015/12/02/new-bill-will-release-100000-1911s-to-...

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:45 | 6933298 G.O.O.D
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Aww those are sweet weapons. A piece of history right there.  The 1911 is what I carry and they just seem to fit perfectly.

 

When the chips are down you want to toss a 45 caliber slug so as you don't have to shoot them a dozen times like the police are doing with their wimpy 9mms.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 00:28 | 6933817 tarabel
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I want the police to have wimpy 9s. Unless they'd prefer to go all James Bond and use a .25 Beretta.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:26 | 6933458 Hongcha
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Interesting Boat Trash, thanks for the link.  The .45 ACP was replaced by the Beretta 9mm as U.S. military issue, in 1985 I believe.  I qualified with a .45, in 1983.  I wonder what the date range is for these pieces, and how many rounds have gone through them.  I would imagine the armorers have been through the crates for the better ones.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 01:27 | 6933569 tarabel
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These are the last 100,000 1911s held by the US government in arsenal storage. Every one of them.

The CMP will not let an unsafe gun go out the door. They tear everything down and check it against specs, at least judging by their M-1s.

The rarest ones will probably be offered as member-only auction pieces. I saw one story which indicated some 1911s are in the mix as well as the usual 1911-A1s but don't know for sure.

My advice for those interested is to get their membership in to the CMP right away because it takes time to process and there is a certain amount of mandatory paperwork that requires you to prove US citizenship, residency, that you have received some form of professsional firearms training, and are a member of some CMP affiliated group. On the day that these guns are released for sale, you should overnight your order to them. Snooze, you lose.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 08:39 | 6934379 Cloud9.5
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I just want one made by Singer.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:43 | 6933536 tarabel
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Part of this year's NDAA. The guns go to the CMP, www.thecmp.org, and no place else.

Only 10,000 available for sale per year. Get your membership paperwork in to the CMP because they will go like greased lightning when it finally happens-- which is not yet.

This will only make me love the CMP even more. What could possibly be better than having Barack Obama sell you a .45 and have it delivered by FedEx right to your door. Thanks, Barry, you're a pal.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 01:15 | 6933819 boattrash
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Tarabel, Thanks for the good Info.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 01:16 | 6933890 tarabel
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Two other things.

It takes time for the CMP to process orders, so give them a CC. If you send a check, they will cash it pronto and you might wait for months. CC won't be charged until shipment.

If you need to find an organization to join, sign up for the Garand Collectors Association. It's cheap (25 yr), easiest for the CMP to verify (done automatically) and you get four magazines per year that are all about Things Garand that you'll find interesting.  

And always glad to help. I prefer to see these valuable All-American artifacts in the hands of those who will truly appreciate them.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 01:56 | 6933933 boattrash
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Awesome. Duly noted.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:39 | 6933262 G.O.O.D
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Barack Obama and others who responded to the recent attack in San Bernadino, California, by calling for stricter gun control measures.

 

So in a nut shell here it is. "oh goawddamn they are killing us, quick turn in your weapons" so they can kill more of us? 

 

What is that? Insane or ??

Forest, Forest Gump

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:45 | 6933294 billwilson
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Americans are fucking nuts. Guns, Trump, Bush, a totally brain damaging sport like football, and a culture based on reckless debt fueld consumption. It ain't gonna end well ... like all empires, they fall apart from the inside.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:53 | 6933329 G.O.O.D
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Probably a few Frenchmen and women that might disagree with you after that slaughter in Paris. If there are more  muslim shootings here, EVERYBODY will be packing and if these muslims try anymore attacks they will start dying in the streets.

 

As far as empires falling apart, all do sooner than later but in all honesty the economic collapse is going to be world wide this time around and one more thing bill, I hope for your sake that right before you die, you don't have the fleeting thought, "I wish I had a gun."

Being helpless in the face of an armed adversary is nothing more than stupidity.

Humans are not nice animals. They are fvking rotten, dangerous and murderous.

But good luck to you anyway.

 

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:49 | 6933554 Freddie
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Next time any f**k here or over at supposed conseravtive Free Republic (filled with Jonath Pollard firsters) says anything bad about France - ask them if America has any Le Pen's aka Joan of Arcs.  France has two.

America has fraudster and neocons like Carly Fiorina or Ms. Lindsey Graham.   We have Ron Paul and one or two others but the French have two women risking their lives to try to save France.  Wake up Germany!

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:47 | 6933302 Mick Shrimpton
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Obama and his goons are just doing what they always do, preying on the stupidity of the average American.  Now they're harping on mass shootings.  Who friggin cares if you get killed in a mass shooting or a single homicide?  If you're dead, you're dead.  Gun homicides are half of what they were 20 years ago and gun ownership plus the number of concealed carry licenses has skyrocketed.  There are at least twice as many people dying of drug overdoses vs. gun homicides and a lot of the same idiots who want to ban guns are calling for the legalization of all drugs and an end to the drug war.  I think there were about 11,000 gun homicides last year in the US.  Considering we have over 300 million people living in this country and over 350 million guns, my thought is, 11,000 ain't that bad.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:55 | 6933344 G.O.O.D
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and if you look closely at   the statics suicide is classified as homicide making the gun death rate over double.

 

Nice trick the grabbers pull there.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:51 | 6933319 10mm
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Any body named Josh or Eric, it's a cock in your ass.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:37 | 6933506 tarabel
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Josh-Eric -- the New York equivalent of Billy Bob.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:51 | 6933320 WillyGroper
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Hmmm,  looks like some folks wakin' up to the partay of rape, mame, murder & plunder.

Pretty big shift.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:56 | 6933346 The Carbonator
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This is the best news I have read in a long time.  It is about time people wake up.  Gun Control does NOT work.  It makes you a sitting duck.

 

Government can NOT protect you.  In fact Government WILL NOT protect you, they never let a good mass killing go to waste, in order to get more control over your life.

 

...AND on a personal note... After the San Bernadino shootings I was approached by 3 people at work who know I am a 2A supporter.  All 3 are now getting their permits.  1 of those 3 claimed they had a conversation during a family gathering and 4 of their friends are also starting the paperwork.  My sister asked me last night about going to the range for the 1st time as well.

 

I train with my firearms all the time.  I train and teach my 2 daughters.  There is nothing wrong with learning a new skill and challenging yourself.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:58 | 6933358 Laddie
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The NRA will fall. It’s inevitable. Just look at the demographics. The Washington Post, October 19, 2015
by Adam Winkler professor at UCLA School of Law

The fastest-growing minority group in America is Latinos. Between 2000 and 2010, the nation’s Latino population grew by 43 percent. Hispanics, which make up 17 percent of the population today, are expected to grow to 30 percent of the population in the coming decades.

Gun control is extremely popular among Hispanics, with 75 percent favoring gun safety over gun rights.

Asian Americans also represent a growing anti-gun demographic. Although only about 5 percent of the population today, the Asian American population is predicted to triple over the next few decades. A recent poll of Asian American registered voters found that 80 percent supported stricter gun laws.

See also:
Jews and Jewish organizations lead the gun control campaign by Professor Kevin MacDonald

Jews and Gun Control: A Reprise by Andrew Joyce, PhD

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 11:02 | 6934956 gcjohns1971
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What the NRA says and does is beside the point.

There are a hundred million gun owners who have publicly stated they will not give up their guns no matter what the laws or demographics.

It doesn't matter how many hispanics or asians want to disarm them.  They haven't the means to actually do it.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 21:59 | 6933359 seek
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I think in additon to the obvious concensus about not wanting a bad, a lot of this is simply that the population as a whole is much more familiar with what an AR-15 is than they were in the early 90s. Back then the Brady bunch was absolutely dependent on confusion about what AWs were. Now that most poeple understand they're cosmetic labels on semi-auto rifles... they have a lot less leverage.

On top of that, even the hyper-left-leaning people I know are less than comfortable with only the gov't having access to firearms.

It seems to me the reason we're hearing and seeing such a big push is the window to disarm the population easily is getting slammed shut.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:04 | 6933383 kiwimail
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I think it would be a good idea to ban assault rifles.  People should only be allowed to buy patrol rifles!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 03:55 | 6934044 kiwimail
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To whoever down voted me:  You dont know anything about sarcasm or the types of weapons the cops carry in their boot.  The m16s in the boot are called partrol rifles.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:06 | 6933396 gregga777
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As originally defined a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) was an atomic bomb or thermonuclear warhead with explosive strength measured in the ton of trinitrotoluene (TNT) equivalent. Now thanks to the police state organs of the Federal government a weapon of mass destruction is a pipe bomb containing a few ounces of gunpowder.

By the same means, someday soon every gun will be defined as an assault weapon by the Federal government. Hence a ban on assault weapons will mean a complete ban on all guns, thereby totally destroying not only the Second Amendment but the entire Constitution, too. By redefining language the Federal government will criminalize anything they desire to further the power of the totalitarian police state.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 14:25 | 6935947 joe6px
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They can file all the paper in the world, at some point they have to come door to confiscate.  War will start.  DC cannot win, but they will try to tell you they can.  They will tell you how fancy their techno wonders are, how big the bombs are, that they know what you are thinking.  If anyone believes it, well, that's their loss.  4GW is not DC's strong suit and the tree of Liberty will be watered.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:07 | 6933401 gregga777
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Gun control has absolutely nothing to do with preventing either mass shootings or terrorism or violent crime. Gun control is an Unconstitutional program to disarm the American People to further of the growth of the totalitarian police state. Gun control is one aspect of Sunni Muslim President Barrack Hussein Obama's plan to destroy the United States of America from within.

Notice—To whom it may concern:

THERE SHALL BE NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON PROSECUTION FOR TREASON.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:14 | 6933423 A Lunatic
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Rights cannot be voted or legislated away. Nice try though fuckers........

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:21 | 6933445 Hongcha
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I am still awaiting the pronunciations of CA Gov. Brown and Lt. Gov. Newsom ... I thought for certain we would have heard from them by now ... on the afternoon of the San Bernardino and the day after, I spent $1,500 at the local Big 5 loading up.  I was worried there would be an immediate ban, followed by registration, fingerprints etc.  I still think they will try it.  Oh well, better stocked than sorry and the shelf life of reasonably stored rounds is up in the decades somewhere.  Oh, and I paid cash for part of it - they looked at the CDL but did not write anything down.  How long do you suppose that is going to be allowed?

Prepare accordingly.  Si vis pacem para bellum.

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:41 | 6933492 ThrowAwayYourTV
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America doesnt need an Assault Weapons ban. All we need to know is who owns them and are they mentally stable enough to own a gun.  A credit check would determain that.

If you dont have the mental ability to control your own finances, you dont have the mental capacity to control a gun.

Case in point. Lets look at these recent mass murderers.

Most were renters probably over their heads in debt and hanging by a thread.

What did they have to lose? Nothing!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 07:53 | 6934253 Wow72
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My guess is Forest Gump would be a better judge of when to shoot and when not to shoot than most of us.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 09:08 | 6934440 Cloud9.5
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The problem lies in who gets the authority to determine who is stable.  It’s like the Justice Department deciding to let the banks walk but look into Smith and Wesson.  Based on crime rates there is a great argument to disarm minorities.  The Second Amendment prevents that for good reason.  Historically the disarmament of minorities inevitably leads to their genocide.  Remember the Bill of Rights is not there to protect the majority.  It needs no protection.  It is there to protect the minority from the dictatorship of the majority.

 

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:59 | 6934937 gcjohns1971
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Sure.

Because the credit agencies have proven SO RELIABLE in the past, recommending issues like AIG, ENRON, and MF Global only days or weeks before they went belly up.   But surely we can RELY ON THEM to get it right with individuals and NOT BECOME THE TOOL OF TOTALITARIAN ELITISTS???

Which part of financial control involves steady aimpoint and trigger squeeze.  I forget.  Not sure how the ability to control finances relates.  Which brings us back to my first point.  THE SINGLE GREATEST THREAT TO THE EXISTENCE OF CIVILIZATION TODAY IS CORRUPT FINANCIERS.

WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING WHEN YOU ASSERTED THE IDEA THEY ARE MODELS OF RESPONSIBILITY??? HAVE YOU BEEN ASLEEP FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS?????

And the last really nails your real position.

The rentiers own a corrupt monetary and governmental system that steals from renters via interest rates and monetary expansion.  It is the greatest REVERSE ROBIN HOOD in the history of history.

No wonder you are worried for the poor rich, paracites and thieves who produce nothing, and make a rentier living off of their manipulation of government corruption, regulation, and welfare vote-buying schemes, to enrich themselves without actually producing a damn thing.

You should be scared.  But you are clearly not nearly connected enough to the actual public mood or you would be fleeing in terror, not merely wringing your hands with moderate worry.

 

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:39 | 6933512 SgtShaftoe
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As Seneca stated about 2000 years ago: "Repeated punishment, while it crushes the hatred of a few, stirs the hatred of all, just as trees that have been trimmed throw out again countless branches." 

Fuck you very much Washington. You know not what you are doing. 

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 22:51 | 6933563 10mm
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Remember.  Keep your stash stash. Everything else is moot. Now STFU

 

Wed, 12/16/2015 - 23:35 | 6933696 BlussMann
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It's easy, don't allow Moslems to own any weapons, don't allow these trouble making pigs to even have their obnoxious Mosques in the USSA, that would do for starters.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 00:57 | 6933862 Flying Wombat
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“No-Fly Loophole” Will Be Used to Target Our 2nd Amendment Without Due Process

http://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=564491

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 01:04 | 6933867 OregonGrown
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How much do you wanna bet moochella put barry on the "no veggies, no reggies" list....

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 01:11 | 6933881 DeusHedge
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Watched jay carney's big papa give a speech at the university I attend the other day. All about lilies, acceptance and globalization and completely devoid of anything inspiring. Like the fact that the warm bodies in attendance would drop balls for a "free day like when I watched the former prez." I've got to hand it to some people, they have no idea what it's like. Like to be an actual Homo Sapien who is forced to give up their very self-indulgence. To tell you the truth it's a little crazy. I've never been there. But with enough Homo Sapiens opposing the immoral, chaotic trash (degenerate or muslim?) it should be one wild ride in the next few months, to quote Steve's brother.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 02:01 | 6933937 Thomas Sowell
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Please nigga. Just call it a black gun ban.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 02:44 | 6933979 pebblewriter
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Pat Paulson circa 1968:

"But let's face it, sometimes you just need a gun. For example, without guns what would you do if you came home unexpectedly and found your wife in bed with another man? Poison him?? Or how about suicide? What are we supposed to do, beat ourselves to death with a stick?!"

"Guns don't kill people, bullets kill people! If I'm elected president, you'll be able to have all the guns you want... but we're gonna lock up all the bullets!"

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 09:47 | 6934584 Cloud9.5
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Once more, a wet dream by someone who knows little or nothing about guns or ammunition.  Ammunition has a shelf life of half a century.  End production today and you still have billions of rounds already in circulation.  So, you cut off the immediate supply, the ammunition already in circulation will allow millions to remain armed and dangerous for the next half century.  Meanwhile you have bankrupted the firms that supply the government.

 

For those who have never made their own ammunition consider the 300 Blackout.  The case is made by sawing off a 556 case and resizing it.   It uses a modicum of pistol powder and a small rifle primer.     Wherever the military or police are operating, 556 empty cases can be swept up by the bucket full.  The preferred powder is Winchester 296 sold in four pound containers.  There are 7,000 grains of powder in each pound.  Each round takes less than ten grains.  Ten thousand small rifle primers will fit in one thirty caliber surplus ammo can.  The bullets are 230 grains and are cast from scrap lead.  Scrap lead can be found on roof vents, car batteries and wheel weights.  The bottom line is that we will never run out of bullets.  The sweet thing about the 300 AAC Blackout is that it uses the very same components used in the standard 556 AR.  The only thing that is different is the barrel.  The magazines, bolts and lower receivers are identical.

 

 

The 556 uses a 56 grain bullet.  The 300 Blackout uses a 230 grain bullet.  More mass more energy imparted to the target.  To top it off, the 300 Blackout was specifically designed to be suppressed.  

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 09:56 | 6934559 jakesdad
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I'm not necessarily for banning anything but a sem-auto rifle w/more then few round capacity is an OFFENSIVE weapon!  anything remotely resembling form factory of an ar or ak is WAY too bulky to conceal & too slow to reactively draw/aim/etc.  a DEFENSIVE weapon (especially for enclosed close quarters like we've been seeing in sb, cs, etc) is a (green) laser sighter g4 g17 (my personal fav) or something like that - small, near 100% reliability, reasonable mag capacity & highly accurate to 50' w/proper grip/trigger form.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 10:03 | 6934654 Cloud9.5
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As the economic situation continues to worsen do you seriously believe that all the multiculturism kumbaya crap is going to hold?  When people start being pushed away from the table they are going to devolve back into to their tribes, clans and families.  It will be us versus them, whoever we or they may be.  

 

Offensive weapons could have saved these people but the Jim Crow laws were specifically designed to keep them in check. There are millions of ARs and Aks in circulation.  You will not ban them.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosewood_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot

 

 

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