"Let Them Fly There Now": Putin Threatens To Shoot Down Turkish Jets In Syria, Calls Erdogan An Ass Kisser

Tyler Durden's picture

It’s been nearly a month since Turkey shot down a Russian Su-24 in what not only represented the most serious escalation to date in Syria’s five year conflict but also marked the first time a NATO member has engaged a Russian or Soviet aircraft in at least six decades.

The “incident” - which came several weeks after Ankara downed what certainly appeared to be a Russian drone - infuriated The Kremlin, setting off a war of words that culminated in a lengthy presentation by the Russian MoD which purported to prove that illicit Islamic State oil flows through Turkey. Both Putin and a number of other Russian officials have implicated Erdogan and his family in the trafficking of illegal crude and there’s speculation that Ankara’s brazen move to fire on the Russian warplane stemmed from Erdogan’s desire to “punish” Russia for disrupting what Deputy Minister of Defence Anatoly Antonov sarcastically called “a brilliant family business.” 

As for the Russian foreign ministry, Sergei Lavrov canceled a planned trip to Turkey and Maria Zakharova went so far as to reference Turkey’s infamous political blogger Fuat Avni (a pseudonym) on the way to suggesting that Ankara had been planning to shoot down a Russian fighter jet for at least a month.

In an effort to ensure that the downing of a Russian warplane in Syria was a “one and done” event, Moscow deployed the Moskva off the coast of Latakia and sent in the S-400 air defense systems (which were rumored to have already been in place). 

Those moves rattled the US and its partners who fear that a nervous Putin might “inadvertently” shoot down an American, French, or British warplane. Indeed Putin ratcheted up the rhetoric last week. While not detailing 'who' he was focused on, the President told a session of the Defense Ministry's collegium that "I order to act extremely tough. Any targets that threaten Russian forces or our infrastructure on the ground should be immediately destroyed."

Well, in case that wasn’t clear enough, Putin took it a step further on Thursday. 

During his annual news conference in Moscow, the Russian President literally dared Erdogan to send Turkish F-16s into Syrian airspace. 

As Bloomberg reports, “President Vladimir Putin signaled that Russia is ready to shoot down any Turkish military aircraft that strays into Syrian airspace." 

“Turkey constantly violated Syrian airspace in the past. Let them fly there now,” he said, pointing out that Russia’s most advanced air-defense system, the S-400, is covering all of Syria.

(in case the S-400s and the Moskva should prove insufficient, Putin always has the "hands on" option)

"This is the 11th press conference Putin will have with Russian and international journalists during the three terms he has served as head of state," Sputnik notes. "These large press meetings, held once a year, usually last several hours. Almost 1,400 journalists have received accreditation for this year’s event." 

As for whether The Kremlin thinks the US was in any way involved in the downing of the Russian warplane, Putin said he wasn't aware of any American involvement, but did suggest (literally) that Erdogan may have been trying to kiss Washington's ass or, in Bloomberg's more politically correct terminology, "Turkey may have been trying to curry favor with the largest member of NATO".

Putin: “If someone in Turkey decided to kiss Americans on a certain body part, I don’t know whether it was right or not."

Watch the full video below.

For those who missed it, here's an infographic look at the S-400:

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Cognitive Dissonance's picture

I just love a good cat fight......except when it can lead to world war.

VinceFostersGhost's picture

 

 

That's why we had to create Thunderdome....settle it in private.

 

Two men enter....one man leaves.

 

Got $50 bucks on Putin.......anyone?

krispkritter's picture

This is a Bear vs. cat fight and we all know cats are pussies.

hedgeless_horseman's picture

 

 

I like pussy

Vlad, put a Kreb's safety lever on that thing, so that you can manipulate it, correctly, with your trigger finger.

The rifle, that is.

PR Guy's picture

 

 

I thought WW3 was supposed to have started after that Russian plane was shot down?

 

Haven't seen any mushroom clouds round my way.

SWRichmond's picture

JHFC, is that an assault weapon he's holding?  Doesn't he know they're dangerous?

Latina Lover's picture

Damn, Putin's a real man, unlike the bisexual, mulatto illegal. 

valjoux7750's picture

Yea you wont see obongo in a pose like that. Putin is a real man though..

NidStyles's picture

Putin doesn't know what he is doing with that AK. Which is strange considering his background. 

NidStyles's picture

Because I actually know how to use that AK-103 that he's holding. You don't close your eyes with a rifle, ever. It distorts your sight picture and makes you literally blind to your surroundings. 

 

^--- Retired 11b here.

NidStyles's picture

No, he's shooting on a simulator. 

 

Here's where the photo was pulled from:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/39-photos-of-vladimir-putin-2013-3#her...

Mr. Cynic's picture

Looks like a photo op to me.  I'm surprised you talk about the "closed eye" and totally miss the lack of eye or hearing protection.

NidStyles's picture

It's a simulator. You don't need hearing or eye protection on a simulator. It works with cameras and light beams. Not cordite and flying projectiles. 

 

They took photos of him pretending to know what he's doing with the rifle. So yes, you would think it's a photo op, doesn't negate that he's not showing that he knows what he's doing.

 

The Putin worship here is amusing. I thought the Jew apologists were bad...

The Juggernaut's picture

What does Russia have over USA for USA to retreat in the ME?

TruxtonSpangler's picture

Putin knows how to hold an AK. Wonder if Barry knows how to hold an AR?

FrankDrakman's picture

The only gun Bambam knows how to hold is Reggie's. 

Coke and Hookers's picture

I've done a lot of precision shooting with rifles and there are times you actually want to be blind to your surroundings when you're firing. You need absolute focus on your target for example when you're firing at a small target from an unstable platform from 500 yards. Also, scoped rifles don't quite invite keeping both eyes open although it's of course possible. It's different when using a shotgun where you need to keep your 3D perception intact and handguns on moving targets. I've never been in combat and I can imagine keeping both eyes open there is important regardless of weapon. However, I find it likely that I would have closed one eye aiming that AK like Putin is doing, and I'm not a novice. 

logicalman's picture

If I'm shooting a bow, I keep both eyes open.

If I'm shooting a rifle, I keep both eyes open right up to the last second or so,

Doeesn't take long to close one eye!

Whatever - everyone who shoots will find what works for them, given enough practice and awareness of form.

 

Seer's picture

"Whatever - everyone who shoots will find what works for them, given enough practice and awareness of form." EXACTLY! The proof should be on whether you can consistently hit what you're aiming at.

I may be the only one to ever shoot an M16 the way I did, prone position that is.  One side of the T-handle would literally rest inside one of my nostrils!  After a lot of shooting I'd come away with a bloody nose.  That's at 500 yds, open sights.  Qualified "Expert" at the range.  Pretty sure I was sighting with only one eye.

Nid likes the Zionists.  Anything to troll for them is game...

Manthong's picture

Geez, it’s a discipline and training thing..

Don’t distend any unnecessary muscles when creating the sight picture and training on the target.

Both eyes open but slightly contracted to tune the depth of field.

Acknowledge the dual image but enjoy the fact that you know the one that is true.

More light information is gathered that way.

Same thing goes in point of aim and rapid acquisition of a shooting spot with a hand gun..

But what do I know.

 

Lore's picture

FFS, this is like arguing with a global warmist who refuses to talk about the overarching formula and tries to bury you with minutiae.

HardAssets's picture

For some longer, more precise shots with irons - you can squint partially shut one eye. This helps maintain full peripheral vision. When doing this, it may appear that the one eye is completely closed when it is not.
Many Russians received training on AKs since they were kids. Search YouTube and you can find videos of them speed field stripping them. Given his background, its likely that Putin has used AKs since he was a child/teen. Its possible, but seems unlikely that he doesnt know how to use one.
Americans like to spend all sorts of money on 'dood dads'. Whatever. If it helps you, why not. But, Russians invented the AK and have equipped their armies with them for almost 70 years. That includes their spec op Spetsnaz units. They probably have a good handle on running their rifles - even without the add on Amerikanski gadgets.

Aussie V's picture

Obongo knows what end to sit on

Bring the Gold's picture

I was wondering the same thing. It's gotta be information, not threat of force which is well known. It has to be something big. I was wondering last night as I lay in bed if Putin threatened to prove unequivocally that ISIL is a US/NATO/Israel creation or maybe he went real big with 9/11. To have been the proverbial fly on the wall during the Putin Kerry meeting...

quadratic_equation's picture

Russia has Putin and USA has Obama.  Nuff said.

Mr. Cynic's picture

Just because Bloomberg says Putin is using a "simulator" doesn't make it so.  I see no indication it is a simulator.  No wiring, no laser, no sensors.  Looks like a basic, late production AK103 that’s all.

There are also pictures of him shooting one handed with no eye protection in the GRU shooting range.  Sure he didn’t use the Weaver or Isosceles stance but I bet he hit his target enough to qualify.

Say what you want, but this is just a photo op.

11b40's picture

Bingo.

From the various photos of him through the years. Putin seems to like weapons, and be very comfortable handling them.

Furthermore, if you carry one and use it for any length of time, you will develop you own instinctive style.  Just live with a rifle 24/7 for a while, never letting it get beyond arms reach, and it becomes like a natural apendage.

Chairman's picture

I miss my guns so much that when I visit the US I take my favorite suppressed M16 with 11.5 inch barrel out of the vault and sleep with it. However, when I finally come to my senses I put it back in the vault and take out a Mossberg 500 with surefire forend to bed, chamber empty, safety off, and trigger pulled.  I think a jury would be more sympathetic towards me for shooting someone with the Mossberg vs. emptying a 30 round mag of 5.56 into them in the middle of the night.  Putin may like his AKs but I prefer sleeping with a Mossberg which is easier to chamber a round in the dark, and the surefire light really helps.

nope-1004's picture

He's in a suit and tie.  I don't think any part of the picture is real, so worrying about if an eye is open is probably a bit much.  Do guys in combat wear cufflinks, watches and rings?  It's a political pic, nothing more.

fallout11's picture

In my day (M16A2 back then) we were taught one eye open shooting over iron sights. You can't even properly zero a ghost ring equipped rear sight rifle with both eyes open due to parallax. See Field Manual 23-9.
Both eyes open IS better for situational awareness in CQC, and with some of the newer optics.
But Putin's not doing room clearing or door kicking/breach bang clear though, he's making pinpoint shots over iron sights. Plus, he's following Russian training protocols, not US ones (note the offhand grip).

Socratic Dog's picture

I'm (really) short-sighted in the right eye, long-sighted in the left.  Can't even see the front sight clearly with my right, certainly not the target.  Have to shoot both eyes open, it's mandatory for me.  I see two targets usually, one with each eye, have to figure out which one is the "real" one.  Sometimes two front sights.  Parallax is a bitch.

But I'm fucked if I'll buy a pair of glasses.  Seem to be able to get heart shots on deer from 50-70 yards over iron sights, that'll do me.

NMC_EXP's picture

"Not cordite and flying projectiles."

Cordite has not been used as a small arms propellant since WW2 and that was only the Brits.

Flagit's picture

Oh fuck me.

 

The Neocons will be glad to know that once they fight through Russia's air defenses, armor, missile batteries, Navy, Army, and civilians, it will be a piece of cake from there since Vlad can't use a rifle properly.

Should we pop the champagne now?

AllBentOutOfShape's picture

No, he's shooting on a simulator. 

Here's where the photo was pulled from:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/39-photos-of-vladimir-putin-2013-3#her...

So because the link says "Here, Putin trains with an assault rifle simulator", it must be so??

 

11b40's picture

Excuse me, but it depends on what I want to shoot as to whether I close an eye.  If I just want to rip off a bunch of shots in a general direction, fine, eyes wide open.  However, if I want to take a carefully aimed, precise shot at the target, I close one eye, just like using a scope.

Now, a shotgun is a different story.  Always leave eyes open.

Helicon's picture

Nothing wrong with closing your eye, don't be an abnoxious super duper tacticcool master expert. He could have closed it because photographer was distracting him. He is just doing some precision shots on the simulator.

tenpanhandle's picture

Or winking at the blond next to him.

Fullthrottle's picture

Another photo op, just like that Lion he killed with his BEAR hands. The shirtless toughguy pose. Quite amusing actually. 

Bananamerican's picture

What do you want? You want him to undergo a sex change like our amerikan heroes?

Would that make you happy?

If a shirtless, bear-wrasslin' gun shootin' karate choppin' dude reflects their still masculinized culture then HATS OFF to that culture.

quadratic_equation's picture

You're a dick.  Closing one eye depends on the distance to your target or how you train.  Some people shoot with both eyes open and some with dominant side open.  Myself I shoot with both eyes open with closer target and dominant eye open and the other close in longer distances.  You said you're retired 11B?  I don't think so, it seems you're more like a motorpool grease monkey.

Battlefield USA's picture

The retired 11 Boo-Boo here is talking about the "spray and pray" method. The few thousand rounds expended and hope you hit something for every insurgent killed method.

Reichstag Fire Dept.'s picture

No, NidStyles, he's doing it right...that's how he winks at Turks. ;)

Flagit's picture

One day, you and I will drink beer.

NMC_EXP's picture

If you are one of the many who get a double image when aiming with both eyes open you better close the off eye.