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US Defense Secretary Used Private E-Mail To Conduct Government Business For Months

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Earlier this year, the public was aghast to learn that during her tenure as Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton used her personal e-mail to send and receive messages that in some cases related to official state business. 

The accusations ultimately forced Clinton to turn over thousands of pages of e-mails in an ill-fated effort to prove that no classified information was discussed outside of government servers.

The harder Clinton tried to convince the electorate that she didn’t lie about what type of conversations she had on her private e-mail, the more suspicious everyone became until finally, the FBI got involved. Although the scandal is no longer making daily headlines, it still haunts the former First Lady’s bid for the White House and has done irreparable damage to her reputation among voters. 

To be sure, there’s a certain extent to which the entire spectacle was a GOP witch hunt, but at the end of the day, it’s probably better that the nation’s top diplomat not use a private server to discuss matters that pertain to national security - classified or not.

If one had to make a list of officials who should be especially wary when it comes to their online activities Secretary of State would be right at the top of the list. So would Defense Secretary.

We mention that because as The New York Times reports, Ash Carter used a personal e-mail address to conduct government business as late as May of this year. Here’s more:

Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter relied on a personal email account to conduct a portion of his government business during his first months at the Pentagon, according to White House and Defense Department officials and copies of Mr. Carter’s emails obtained by The New York Times.

 

Mr. Carter continued the practice, which violated Defense Department rules, for at least two months after it was publicly revealed in March that Hillary Clinton had exclusively used a personal email account as secretary of state, the officials said.

 

“After reviewing his email practices earlier this year, the secretary believes that his previous, occasional use of personal email for work-related business, even for routine administrative issues and backed up to his official account, was a mistake,” said the spokesman, Peter Cook. “As a result, he stopped such use of his personal email and further limited his use of email altogether.”

 

It is not clear how many work-related emails Mr. Carter sent and received from his personal account.

 

Nearly all senior administration officials have personal email accounts that they occasionally use to communicate about work. But the officials said that Mr. Carter emailed with his closest aides about a variety of work-related matters, including speeches, meetings and news media appearances. In one of the emails obtained by The Times, Mr. Carter discussed how he had mistakenly placed a notecard in a “burn bag.” Such bags are typically used to destroy classified information.

 

A former aide to Mr. Carter said the defense secretary used the personal account so frequently that members of his staff feared he would be hacked and worried about his not following the rules.

While the correspondence reviewed by The Times only shows Carter discussing "legislation, television appearances and how to pay for a hotel bill," you can bet there's more where that came from and as we learned back in October when a 13-year old hacker from the group "Crackas With Attitude" infiltrated CIA chief John Brennan's AOL account, US intelligence officials are prime targets for the legions of Anonymous, Assange, and Snowden disciples of the world.

On the bright side, perhaps an errant e-mail send from a US intelligence source over a private account will end up being the smoking gun that blows the ISIS charade wide open...

 

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Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:53 | 6936376 Looney
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Stupid is as stupid does…

Where do they find these retards? ;-)

Looney

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:56 | 6936392 Clockwork Orange
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Crooked is as crooked does.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:03 | 6936435 highandwired
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Hitlery is as Hitler does

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:10 | 6936477 Save_America1st
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so then they will either downplay it and let him get away with it in order to take heat off of the Hildabeast's email illegalities, or else...if they torch him on it then they will have to take the skank down as well for the same thing that we all here already know were serious crimes.

I'm pretty sure I know which way this is going to go...

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:19 | 6936536 localsavage
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I would be mad but since .gov won't even give up their emails under court order....what difference doe it make?  They are all sociopaths and criminals.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:22 | 6936559 zeronetwork
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'What difference does it make'
Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:24 | 6936565 Arnold
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You'd get them quicker from the chinks.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:31 | 6936604 Theosebes Goodfellow
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Who the fuck cares? Do you really think Loretta Lynch is going to do anything to Hillary or Ash? The corruption is complete and total.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:30 | 6937144 Crash Overide
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Would be nice to see some corrupt politicians arrested and tried for their crimes.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 19:23 | 6937393 swmnguy
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Yes sir it would be nice, but if you see any corrupt politicians arrested and tried, it will only be for the crime of losing.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 19:57 | 6937541 Amish FinEng
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Only GOY Sheeple will be held accountable by our joo judges.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 20:16 | 6937597 PrezTrump
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wonder why oh why he just had to come clean...

expecting more...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:26 | 6936538 Arnold
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My Defense Secretary is a shit head.

My Secretary s of State are shitheads.

My POTUS is a shithead.

et cetera ad nauseam.

Not even offered mulligans, gimmes or do overs.

Worst, most incompetent administration ever.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:11 | 6936438 Yes We Can. But...
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In my gubmint contracting days, I'd have been shown the door for what Carter did.  For what Hillary did - running official communications through server set up in my home - I'd have been prosecuted.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:29 | 6936594 replaceme
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Ask anyone that gets exposed to the current security briefings, and the standard line after any "do not ..." warning is "Unless you're secretary of state. Ha ha ha".  Hillary and now Ash are fucking jokes. Sick jokes. Hillary and Huma walk into a bar, that kind of sick joke.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:41 | 6937193 thethirdcoast
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Shown the door?

 

Son, we'd be spending 25 years in Leavenworth for pulling the kinds of stunts that Carter and Clinton have gotten away with.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 21:37 | 6937859 GernB
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Oddly enought, when you get clearance to handle classified material they make it quiet clear what email practices are OK and what kind of jail time you face if you violate them.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:32 | 6936616 BullyBearish
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To hold positions of power in the current U.S. Government you MUST be a criminal sociopath...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:34 | 6936621 KCMLO
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Actual retards have an excuse for their behavior.  These motherfuckers have no excuse.  Please don't insult retards by making the comparison.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:48 | 6936998 Ward cleaver
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No excuse? GREED, it's a disease that infects people and the more they get the more they need.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:54 | 6937027 44magnum
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"Where do they find these retards? ;-)"

 

The owners have a long list.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:54 | 6936377 Squid Viscous
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what difference does it make...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:58 | 6936402 ShorTed
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I really hope you just forgot your "/sarc " tag there Hillary.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:05 | 6936442 CheapBastard
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Fortunately for him, Federal employees can't be fired.

 

Seems like they also can never be indicted nor demoted.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:13 | 6936507 froze25
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No need for sarcasm, it really will make no difference. Sure its illegal, sure he deserves to be held accountable, sure he should be on trial. But he won't be. Just as Hillary won't be. Don't get me wrong I am disgusted but this is the current state of affairs. The filth at the top has committed so much crime that none of them will hold any of the others accountable because "If I go down we all go down" is at play.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:54 | 6936379 Cognitive Dissonance
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It's an epidemic.....of callous stupidity and crass indifference. I'm not sure which is worse, though I am sure they would say 'neither'.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:14 | 6936848 Socratic Dog
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The eternal question.  Is the man just an ignorant prick?  Or is he in fact a clueless cunt?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 19:35 | 6937450 swmnguy
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Hierarchical authority structures select these people, and they rise to the top while others, vastly more-competent, get washed out.  

My theory is that as soon as an organization is formed, even between two people (as in a marriage), but absolutely in a corporation or a government, "The Organization" is formed, and becomes a being with a life of its own even if only in the minds of those involved.  That being has wants and needs like anybody else.  So there are always at least three individuals; you, me, and "The Organization."

I always get stranded on the rocks whenever there's a conflict between the task for which purpose we formed The Organization, and the needs of The Organization.  I always opt to focus on the task first, and then fix whatever it was about The Organization that put it into conflict with its original task.  The sort of person who prospers in such organizations really hates a guy like me and drives me out however possible, generally through as prolonged a process as possible (because I really am very valuable to such organizations, even though I must ultimately be driven away).

But guys like Aston Kutcher/Carter/whatever the hell his name is; Hillary Clinton; anybody in the State Department; organizations like that are where those people thrive.  That's why nobody is ever held to account for what looks like failure right on its face; they're only interested in the organizational needs of the hierarchical authority structure, and no doubt they succeeded brilliantly in meeting those needs.  You'll always find utterly brilliant, completely amoral and ruthless people increasingly concentrated in organizations in collapse.  You'd think they'd be smart enough to get out; in fact they are.  But the organizational needs are so alluring and demanding, these people simply can't stay away; can't remain uninvolved.  If you ever wonder if you ought to get out, you should have gotten out already and you'd better do it as fast as you possibly can.  That moment of doubt should tell you all you need to know about yourself, your situation, and where the one fits with the other.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:56 | 6936394 ToSoft4Truth
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Paul Ryan to the rescue. 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:57 | 6936399 madcows
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Geez, after she got shot at, she suffered PTSD, which caused her to lose all sensibility, thus resulting in her use of a private email account for top secret government business.

We should give her a hug and a medal for all she has endured.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:07 | 6936795 Ward cleaver
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Besides the ptsd from her firefight she's had to deal with poverty when leaving the White House, has nightmares about the people responsible for death of our soldiers in Bengazi, endure the fake issue of her email account as well as having a daughter who looks like her law partner. Hope this "woman of strength " can make it to the Presidency. Old Pantsuit will survive.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:58 | 6936407 E.F. Mutton
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And yet if some swingin' dick seaman who works for Carter loses a single page of a simple FOUO document, he's off to Leavenworth.  Rules are for plebs.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:59 | 6936418 CHoward
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So?  What's your point?  His use of private email has NOTHING to do with what Clinton did.  Seriously.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:18 | 6936526 froze25
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Looks like it really makes no difference, special right for some and equal rights for none. 4 legs good 2 legs better.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:00 | 6936422 Seasmoke
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For a Rhodes Scholar. Ash isn't too smart.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 19:59 | 6937547 Tejano
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Rhodes scholars are not necessarily "smart" - though it helps. They are selected to further what Cecil Rhodes' perverse and dangerous vision of the future has morphed in to.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:01 | 6936425 buzzsaw99
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idiocracy rides again

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:02 | 6936428 Goldbugger
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I'ts ok Hillary did it and she got off.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:21 | 6936555 Squid Viscous
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she gets off alot just not with Bill, ever

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:03 | 6936436 ChargingHandle
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Stunning. Does he really not know how vulnerable email passwords are especially when those hacking seek specific people....kinda like a Defense Sec? Heck who has not had a password compromised? 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:32 | 6936617 Amish Hacker
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Privacy, not security, was his main concern. He (and Hillary) know that a personal account, unlike a government account, is not subject to Freedom of Information Act requests.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:03 | 6936437 ChargingHandle
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Stunning. Does he really not know how vulnerable email passwords are especially when those hacking seek specific people....kinda like a Defense Sec? Heck who has not had a password compromised? 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:05 | 6936449 Jethro
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Willful negligence. Try all these fuckers for treason and hang them by their necks until they are dead. These assholes should know that in this day and age that all electronic communications are subject to digital surveillance. They know better, and simply don't care.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:14 | 6936842 g speed
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they do know better---they are using the email (i'm so dumb) scam to sell state secrets ----just email some stuff  and provide the email pass word for a fee --or a contribution to your "foundation" --- the hills been doing it for years---just saying.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:06 | 6936455 Bill of Rights
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Hillary made me do it...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:07 | 6936461 JustPrintMoreDuh
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Rome is burning

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:29 | 6936592 Pheonyte
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While Obama is fiddling.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:31 | 6936606 Arnold
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And Nero played the violin to ease his sorrow.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:08 | 6936476 I AM SULLY
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Gee ...

In 1998, as a 1LT in the U.S. Army, I knew I would get REAMED and possibly received administrative punishment if I EVER used personal email for professional correspondence.

Which implies to me, logically and partially based on what my friends tell me who are still serving, that the discipline and OPSEC in the U.S. military in 2015 (under Obama) SUCKS!

Ashton CARTER should be fired - he is an undisciplined, excuse mongering, douche.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:22 | 6936557 froze25
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Why do you think Obozo does everything to wreck and humiliate the military at every opportunity. He is doing all he can to destroy this country... He is not a Democrat he is not a Republican, he is a Globalist just like Hillary, Just like Rubio, Just like Bush. There is more but I don't have the time to write all of them down. Did you see the debate the other night? The only non-globalist are Paul, Cruz and Trump. Every time Foreign policy comes up when they speak that is how you can tell.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:14 | 6937105 tarabel
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Is fired some sort of local colloquialism for arrested?

If so, then yes, he should be fired.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:10 | 6936481 buzzsaw99
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he was probably just sending nuke launch codes to his ten closest friends

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Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:36 | 6936631 Arnold
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corningglass

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Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:03 | 6936767 buzzkillb
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Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:10 | 6936487 Everybodys All ...
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The fact of the matter is that ash carter will not be fired and that tells you everything about the government subversion going on under this president.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:10 | 6936490 Amused2Death
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This is very simple, everyone who works for the U.S. government knows their emails are monitored internally and stored indefinitely.  So if you're a high ranking official, you don't want your emails to be subpeaned and you don't want some low level IT person sitting in some govt basement somewhere leaking any information about you.  That's why Hillary did it, that why many others do it, they fear the spies within more than the spies outside.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:10 | 6936492 Thisisbullishright
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One set of rules for the criminal "ruling" cabal, and another set for the average citizen!

This country deserves to fucking implode!!

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:11 | 6936495 yellensNIRPles
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Weapons-grade stupidity in action.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:15 | 6936512 lester1
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And people wonder why Trump is doing so well in the polls..

 

We are tired of stupid people running the country!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:21 | 6936551 Bill of Rights
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I hope you're correct remember Obama told us what we wanted to hear as well.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:58 | 6937048 gonetogalt
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Obama didn't tell anyone I know anything they wanted to hear.

You must be a recovering moron.

We all knew he was the Manchurian candidate, remember an argument with my attorney where I denied O was a muslim jihadist, I said he only had "muslim sympathies".

Sucker I was!!!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:21 | 6936550 Duc888
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Ash Carter is a graduate of Yale, a former Harvard Professor, a CFR member but most importantly a consultant for Goldman Sachs, therefore he is above you and I.  He does not have to abide by any laws.  You are unclean, he is not and never will be.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:21 | 6936554 jakesdad
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we had a cia chief w/an aol account?!?  just damn...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:25 | 6936570 spanish inquisition
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Willful ignorance so he can get that cushy defense job or lobbying post next year from the guys he gave his password.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:37 | 6936644 cn13
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I have found that booksmart people such Carter typically have very little common sense.

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:49 | 6936715 all-priced-in
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For high ranking government offoicials -

 

Is hooking up with prostitutes considered official business?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:55 | 6936731 BarkingCat
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To quote Al Gore "no legal controlling authority".

This psychopaths make Nixon look like a saint.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:04 | 6936775 seek
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This is cover for Hillary, no doubt about it. There's smoking guns in her email so they're throwing another person under the bus to use the "everyone does it" excuse as to why nothing should be done.

The reality is everyone should be treated like Petraeus. Somehow I don't see Hillary pleading guilty.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:07 | 6936798 Grimaldus
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To have a crime, you must first have progressives.

 

 

 

 

 

Grimaldus

 

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:49 | 6937244 prymythirdeye
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Your bullshit, that takes up too much space, is so tired.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:21 | 6936880 Johnny Horscaulk
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Its either gross incompetence/carelessness on both clinton and carters part, or deliberate.

And if deliberate, its a great way to let foreign intelligence agencies have a peak they otherwise might not be able to have.

Of course neither Clinton or Carter would ever, ever sell out their own country, so it must be Putin's fault.

He's just like Hitler!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:42 | 6936986 Barrack Chavez
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So just to review how corrupt the Obama regime is:

Edward Snowden leaks how the US government is illegally and immorally spying on its own citizens, and his passport is revoked without even a trial. The criminals in Washington publicly threaten to have him killed.

The former head of the CIA (Patreaus), the former liar of State (Hilary) and now the Secretary of Defense -- all violate the law and send classified emails over public email systems... and the excuses can't come fast enough.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:48 | 6937001 QQQBall
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A mistake. This is a conferderation of dunces. 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:16 | 6937113 cheech_wizard
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Perhaps Ass and Cankle-sore can share a cell together....

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 21:16 | 6937799 Thomas Sowell
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13 year old crackas know too much and continue to thrive. More names is the least of news.

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