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The US Knows Where ISIS Videos Are Produced - But Does Nothing About It

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Earlier this month, we brought you an in-depth look inside Islamic State’s sprawling propaganda machine. 

As outlined extensively by Charlie Winter in a study entitled "Documenting The Virtual 'Caliphate'”, ISIS produces nearly 40 pieces of propaganda each day in various formats ranging from video, to print, to radio. 

The workload is divided between dozens of individual production units hailing from all corners of the caliphate from Libya to Raqqa to Mosul. Here’s Winter’s org chart which shows how each discrete unit fits into the larger picture: 

And here’s how each of the various “Wilayats” contribute to what is truly an impressive effort in terms of output:

 

As we discussed, Islamic State's propaganda machine is a critical part of the group's highly successful recruiting efforts. The following graphic should give you a decent idea of how many foreigners have traveled to fight with Islamic State in Iraq and Syria:

(Source: Soufan Group)

Put simply: recruitment on that scale would be all but impossible in the absence of the al-Hayat Media Center and its myriad offshoots. 

Importantly, ISIS propaganda isn't limited to murder montages. In fact, quite a bit of Islamic State media focuses on portraying life in the "caliphate." The idea, of course, is to project some semblance of normalcy - to show potential recruits that a society governed by Sharia Law can still have the trappings of modernity. Here's a breakdown of ISIS propaganda by topic:

Given all of this, one would certainly think that the US would be interested in dismantling the network that serves as Islamic State's recruiting arm. After all, if the group can't replace the fighters killed on the battlefield, its ranks will shrivel. As it turns out, the US has "spent months" mapping the locations of the various media production units shown in the org chart above. Despite knowing their locations, Washington has refrained from destroying them - supposedly for fear of inflicting civilian casualties. 

Here's The Washington Times with more:

Intelligence officials have spent months mapping out known physical locations of media safe houses where the extremist group’s operatives are compiling, editing and curating raw video and print materials into finished digital propaganda products for dissemination across the Internet.


Most of the locations are embedded in heavily residential areas in Syria, Iraq and Libya and are not being targeted by U.S. airstrikes because of Obama administration concerns about civilian casualties, according to sources who spoke to The Washington Times only on the condition of anonymity.


Critics, including a growing number of lawmakers on Capitol Hill and some current and former officials directly involved in the project, say the administration’s effort is badly mismanaged and underfunded, allowing the Islamic State to maintain a physical footprint of media production houses upon which creation of the terrorist group’s most influential products depends.


The propaganda operation’s vastness and sophistication are considered unprecedented in Islamic terrorism. Although its penetration across the Internet relies on a seemingly endless spray of links posted by the Islamic State on social media sites, it is the core media products that such links lead back to that analysts describe as most worrisome.


Twelve issues of the group’s official propaganda magazine Dabiq are now online in several languages, including Arabic, English, Russian, French and Turkish. The shiny content, organizational integrity and layout are more thorough and professional than those of many American newsmagazines.


More striking for the visually driven young audience are the dozens of highly curated recruiting videos that Islamic State operatives have produced using elaborate graphic animations, special effects, live-action speed edits and Hollywood-quality voice-overs.

As The Times goes on to note, "the notion that U.S. officials possess such information is confounding to some analysts."

“Obviously, if we know where they’re producing the propaganda, we should be doing everything we can to destroy their facilities,” said William McCants, a Brookings Institution scholar and former State Department senior adviser for countering violent extremism. 

Yes, "obviously." Just like the US should "obviously" be destroying the ISIS oil convoys which help the group generate between $500 million and $1 billion per year in revenue. Of course the argument for not striking the oil trucks is the same as that outlined above for not hitting the media production centers: collateral damage. 

So ultimately, the two most important pieces of the Islamic State puzzle are the illicit oil trafficking business (that's where the money comes from) and the propaganda machine (which serves as the group's recruiting arm). The US could, if it chose, eliminate both but refuses to do so out of respect for the civilians who might perish in the mayhem. 

As we discussed in the context of the oil convoys, it seems rather odd that The Pentagon, which just two months ago fired indiscriminately on an MSF hospital in Kunduz killing dozens of civilians, and the CIA, which runs a drone program that misses its intended target 90% of the time on the way to claiming countless innocent lives, is suddenly so concerned about collateral damage that the US is helpless to stop Islamic State from getting rich both in terms of blood money and in terms of recruits.

Those of a skeptical persuasion might be inclined to suggest that the US is deliberately keeping the media units operational just as Washington has avoided hitting the oil convoys. After all, if Islamic State stops recruiting, they may disappear and if the public is no longer subjected to Hollywood-esque executions filmed in sparkling 1080p, Americans may forget why the US needs to be in Syria - and we can't have that.

On that note, we'll close with a quote from an unnamed official who suggested that the US needs to keep the ISIS propaganda machine operational so Washignton can "learn" from it. 

“There’s always this balance between needing to take action and needing to study how they operate. Bombing is absolutely not the only way to take a communications product offline.”

 

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Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:14 | 6936148 Cognitive Dissonance
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"Those of a skeptical persuasion might be inclined to suggest that the US is deliberately keeping the media units operational just as Washington has avoided hitting the oil convoys."


Call me skeptical then. Why would the US silence the boogieman when it furthers so many agendas, foreign and domestic?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:14 | 6936161 Fester
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Langley

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:16 | 6936168 Looney
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Here’s a quick re-cap of the latest developments in the Middle-East.

Qassem Soleimani visits Russia again.

Kerry’s new tune is “Assad’s gotta stay. Assad’s gotta stay”.

12 US F-15’s are pulled out of Turkey’s Ickirlic airbase.

Biden nags Erdogan for the “incursion” into Iraq.

The Gulf Cooperation Council demands Erdogan to pull out of Iraq.

Russia delivers its latest T-90 tanks to Syria and Iraq.

Members of Qatar’s royal family are kidnapped in Iraq during a hunting trip.

Two more Saudi warships are sunk by the Houthis in Yemen, totaling 10!

NATO wants to re-integrate Turkey’s air-defense to prevent future “accidents”.

Fucking MSM.GOV! All they talk about is Jeb, Hillary, and Janet’s “Courage to raise a measly .25%”. ;-)

Looney

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:24 | 6936215 pods
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They traced them all right to Damascus right?

/shocked

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:42 | 6936311 Chris Dakota
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37 yr old Boston Bombing Hoax (victim) died of a sudden illness.

no place to hide anymore as I have been saying

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 19:27 | 6937418 beemasters
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With so many evidences already that NATO, US and allies are supporting terrorists, why isn't there any legal action yet...at least on the ground of Aiding and Abetting a Crime???

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 20:20 | 6937604 Future Jim
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No, this is totally innocent - just like when CNN interviewed Osama hiding in his cave in Afghanistan shortly before 9/11, but the US government couldn't find him before, during, or after that.

9/11 Conspiracy

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 19:30 | 6937419 beemasters
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We need to say something when we see something. Report this shenanigan to the police immediately!!! Oh, wait...

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:26 | 6936228 Bay of Pigs
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Interesting we are watching WWIII unfold and it is not even being reported in the West. Orwellian doesn't even come close to describing these historic and world changing events.

WTF?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:32 | 6936246 Bananamerican
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well, let's see how far Kerry walks it back or how big Barry blinks

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:33 | 6936257 Looney
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Speaking of Orwellian…

John McCain has just called Kerry’s visit to Russia “Orwellian”.

I couldn’t believe my ears!!! ;-)

Looney

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:35 | 6936258 nope-1004
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Which confirms that the US dollar is a fraud and only in place by virtue of confidence.  Anyone reporting the facts and speaking the truth will erode confidence.

Lying is the only option left for the elites.

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:42 | 6936598 JuliaS
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Britain and France were spreading troops all the way to Basra to counter Germany's attempt at expansion long before WW1. Hitler began marching across europe long before the war was officially recognized and even longer before we joined in. Wars often go unreported for a good decade. Or as with most modern wars, don't get declared at all. Defeats sometimes get reported as victories, some missions get accomplished and some folks get tortured. That sort of thing.

Double-plus-good.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:53 | 6937253 Bring the Gold
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I love your stuff Julia especially on bitcoin and the limits of silicon wafers. You work in Silicon Valley?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 20:54 | 6937743 JuliaS
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I hate the Valley culture. I have a friend programmer who started in finance and eventually went to work for Google. He's loving it, but I can't stand them or their business model. I prefer small startups and small to mid size companies (under 50 employees). I mostly do work around Seattle, sometimes venturing down South or up North as far as Vancouver to do odd jobs. I work as a pipeline software engineer for film studios. I design custom film production gear such as motion control rigs. Electronic prototyping is a life-long hobby. My father was an aerospace engineer and an electrician, so I inherited many of my life's interests from him. Had a brief encounter with NASA and would love to work on spacecraft fabrication again. Unfortunately NASA is bankrupt and I don't see future in government sponsored enterprises. I'd rather work for a private firm such as Space-X, or maybe go to some country where space exploration isn't yet a thing and help them get projects off the ground.

For now programming pays the bills and there's enough demand for physicists to keep the career path going for at least another 5 years, so I'll keep doing what I'm doing. The wages are deflating. I haven't had a raise in 10 years, but I'm getting by, following George Carlin's golden principle: "If your needs aren't being met, drop some of your needs!"

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 00:39 | 6938206 Bring the Gold
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Very cool. Good for you and may the future bring you many blessings.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:23 | 6936729 Bring the Gold
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I got in trouble at work the other day for daring to talk about "politics" when in fact I was talking about the very real possibility if WWIII. I'm not sure when it happened but banning talking about "politics" at work sure has done a lot to make sure the uninformed stay uniformed. The person was upset by the conversation. For fuck's sake are we adults or what? How the fuck are things going to change if we can't even talk about huge world events. I wasn't even postulating on what politicians might do or who to vote for. That I would understand but not talking about recent events is on par with denying people from talking about Pearl Harbor back in the 40's. Such utter fucking bullshit.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 19:31 | 6937432 unicorn
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@bring the gold

ask them questions! this is far more troubling ...

like why had anonymous to do the job the best financed service in the world couldnt do?

why nobody, i dont care if anonymous or the others, didnt inject a virus or something else, to bring down the studios? in a studio everything is connected and goes down all the time for less then a virus... all the people in a studio are connected by phones and laptops and dont even know what a scriptblock is...

bring the studios down electronically and youll have no collateral dammage, damm.

but they dont want to, its more then obvious.

how else france could have gotten the new laws and restrictions through so fast and without anybody daring to oppose? they desperately need these terrorist for a lot more, then  i can write here. its disgusting.

just btw, cause its interesting and somehow relating around 5 corners:

i had to search for a long time to find out, why nobody bombed the railways leading to Auschwitz. In the book from Adam Lebor (the tower of basel) i found out: it was a guy (John Mc Cloy), working for Kittrick (Bank of International Settlement), and Aniline Film (IG Farben), later President of the World Bank, who said no....

dig history, follow big money.

 

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 00:41 | 6938211 Bring the Gold
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I might have to check that last tip out on Tower of Basel. All roads seem to lead to the BIS, or the Round Table Groups and some darker roads seem to lead to the Black Nobility and old Italian banking families. Fascinating stuff.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 20:19 | 6937608 TVP
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haha, you think that's bad?  Try talking about central banking and fiat currency.  Or the fact that 5 corporations own all of MSM.  Or the ingredients of vaccines and documented side-effects.  How about that national debt?

Things that don't even directly involve politicians have now become political discussions, and hence "not polite convsersation".  People can't handle thinking about unpleasant realities anymore.  Or worse, they claim a right to ignorance based on the fact that they have a life.  "Hey, no time to think about that crazy shit...gotta go watch football".

Not too long ago, someone posted the definition of "crimestop" from Orwellian Newspeak.  Something to do with simple logic evoking a severe emotional reaction.  Anyway, sounded just like what you described and what makes it difficult to talk to the average person these days.  

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 00:43 | 6938215 Bring the Gold
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Yep, I hear you 100%. It's also in my estimation a big part of the partisan divide along with words like Partisan, Democrat, Republic, Left, Right, Conservative, Liberal and Progressive. I feel all those words are divisive. What we need to be talking about is what were long considered universal values and rights in this country. I don't mean what people do in their bedrooms or churches or who should marry whom. I mean things like the Constitution, Civil Liberties, the Bill of Rights and a Republic under rule of law.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 22:24 | 6937965 Demdere
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Same with my friends in the academic world : talking politics is very bad manners, they are embarassed for you.  Ditto sone GOP Country-club relatives of mine, embarassed that I would be so gauche.

Very effective control of subordinates.  I am such a bad subordinate.

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 00:53 | 6938227 Bring the Gold
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With you 100%. Seems most people consider it impolite conversation. Crazy and also no surprise things have gotten this bad when people don't even want to talk about it.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:27 | 6936578 Jack Burton
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 Two more Saudi warships are sunk by the Houthis in Yemen, totaling 10!

I have been trying long and hard to confirm these claims, and to get information on the Saudi ships. So far only a few names turn up and all reports seem to lead back to one or two sources. The Western Media has tried to blackout these reports with varying success.

Anyone has some clear info. Please post it. I love drowned Saudis!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:46 | 6936992 Collectivism Killz
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I mostly see it covered on Fars news. However, a friend of mine who is in the know says things are really, really not going well for the Saudis. Given this individual's tenancy to understate, that means quite a bit, so I would have to think many of the stories are true. Then again, Haji seems to catch everything on cell phone cameras, so you would think there would be something of a ship or two, assuming they were hit near the coast,

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:18 | 6937122 Johnny Horscaulk
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Good amount of american mercs being used in yemen too supposedly.

Couldnt happen to nicer pieces of methed out shitbags.

I suspect Ivan may have contributed a mre or two...

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 02:05 | 6938301 Tigermoth
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Jack,

http://southfront.org/2-other-saudi-warships-were-destroyed-by-yemeni-fo...

Also, just in:

http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/12/imf-recognises-debt-of-ukraine-to.html

The Board of Directors of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) acknowledged in-absentia the debt of Ukraine to Russia $3 billion as sovereign, not commercial, according to RIA Novosti citing the representative of the world Fund.

"The IMF Executive Board acknowledged the debt of Ukraine to the Russian Federation as sovereign, and not commercial. The decision was made in absentia", — said the Agency interlocutor.


According to him, the vote on the status of the debt occurred in correspondence via a newsletter from the Directors notification of the draft decision. According to the rules, if some of the Directors are against it, there would have to be a face-to-face meeting. On the day of the decision the Director had not expressed his objection to the decision, thus it is considered to be effective.
Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:24 | 6936219 lovemesomeZH
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#1 Hollywood California

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:27 | 6936517 Francis Marx
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Hollywood?  You mean the basement of the whitehouse!

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 12:02 | 6939323 OregonGrown
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Basement of the whitehouse is called ReggieWood..... duh

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:18 | 6936824 Freddie
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They used to have a secret huge film studio and MK Ultra base on the top of a hill in Laurel Canyon:

Dave McGowan exposed this and the connection between the created hippie movement to nuke the anti war movement.

Sadly Dave McGowan has incurable lung cancer.  Super guy too.
http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:33 | 6936959 Bring the Gold
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I've heard before about CIA counter culture stuff, but how did the hippies hurt the anti-war movement? Weren't they anti-war?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 20:18 | 6937605 conscious being
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Sex, drugs and rock n' roll was the distraction. Anti-war, but too stoned to do anything about it, does not make an effective opposition.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:12 | 6936834 roddy6667
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Site Intelligence Group
Bethesda, MD
Rita Katz

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:24 | 6936904 Kirk2NCC1701
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The other night Donald Trump was the only candidate with brains and common sense, and had a better solution than even the self-important Tech Queen, Carly Fiorina:  Use America's tech geniuses in Silicon Valley and elsewhere, to find out where these ISIS guys are hanging out on the Internet, locate their local coordinates, and bomb the hell out of them, if you can't close their ISP connection.

Duh!  Cyberwarfare Common Sense 101.  Time to fire the parasitic assholes and morons at the NSA and in Langley, and make them get a real job.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:16 | 6936169 ShorTed
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Agreed, all that money spent to create ISIS just to bomb it?  You'd think this was the script of some movie or something ridiculous like that!

Wag the Dog

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:33 | 6936620 JuliaS
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Declaring a war or gypsies would've been cheaper.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:50 | 6936717 hunkerdown
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At this price it must be a Michael Bay or James Cameron blockbuster splosion pron.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 20:35 | 6937681 conscious being
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Here's the recently released Stanley Kubrick blockbuster for any who may have missed it. Stanley admits he filmed the fake Moon Landings.

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:16 | 6936170 Bush Baby
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And Obama continues to do what he does best , stand in front of a podium and lie straight faced to the American People.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:23 | 6936192 williambanzai7
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The statists are not at war with ISIL. They are at war with we the people.

I can't even type statist without them trying to change the word to statistics via spellchuck.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:21 | 6936197 McMolotov
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I just hope at least one of the videos is up for best picture at the Oscars. I'd love to hear the acceptance speech from Alan Ackbar and "Bob" from the CIA's Special Activities Division.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:05 | 6936450 TeamDepends
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And the winner for Best Use Of Gore is................gosh, can't open this thing..................Ahmed The Cannibal!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:08 | 6936468 Dick Gazinia
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Goat porn

Baaaaaack Door Jihadi

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:46 | 6936336 MrNosey
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The reason that nothing has been done about it, is because they are all one and the same......this fact will be become public knowledge, very shortly......

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/is-russian-president-vladimir-putin-a-reptilian-kgb-time-traveler-video-2472970.html

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:55 | 6936387 armageddon addahere
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What good would it do to bomb a studio when they could set up another one the next day? You might as well try to put the US sgovernment out of business by burning down your local TV station.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:26 | 6936576 11b40
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Maybe, or maybe not, but as word gets around that being a graphic artist for ISIS is more risky than being in a combat unit, recruiting new techies may not be so easy.  Plus, taking out the worker bees and the equipment would set back the operation more than a day or 2.  Taking them all out in a short period of time would be a huge propaganda victory for the West, too, so why haven't we done it.  Finding the talent and equipping a graphics studio is not a 1-day deal in these 3rd world meccas.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:32 | 6936954 Aussie V
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"They don't want to bomb because of possible civilian casualties."

It's fortunate that these ISIS guys havn't set up their video studio in an Hospital or the US would bomb the fuck out of em!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:14 | 6936156 Tinky
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To be fair, they do have lots of wedding parties to bomb, so perhaps it's a matter of prioritization.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:31 | 6936245 pods
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Seriously, we don't wanna give PTSD to the crank sniffing drone operators.

They could bomb a daycare center and call it a "whole bag of funsize terrorists"

And it's not like their kill ratios can get much worse. FFS, their bycatch is worse than NC Shrimp Trawlers.

pods

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:14 | 6936157 FinMin
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Obama wouldn't want to look bad in front of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:15 | 6936159 OregonGrown
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"The US Knows Where ISIS Videos Are Produced - But Does Nothing About It"

 

Because the ISIS video's are being produced at the same CIA ran hollywood studio lot the moon landing was produced in.... 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:20 | 6936183 Squid Viscous
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and that OJ Simpson movie where they pretended to land on Mars

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:34 | 6936268 Bananamerican
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and the one where Santa Claus conquered the Martians (as if!)

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:45 | 6936291 OregonGrown
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or that one where America votes in it's first black president........oh wait, that was frrreal

(ok, technically, only half real)

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:28 | 6936199 OregonGrown
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LOL..... judging by the red down arrow, there is at least one person that must have spent HOURS and HOURS watching the fake moonlandings (or maybe bought one of those buzz aldren USA flags that "actually went to the moon" with him from ebay that cost 1000's and 1000's of dollars) and because "i saw it on the tevee with my own eye" was fooled and cant admit it!

bu bu but...... i heard the radio transmissions myself.....

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:32 | 6936252 Bunghole
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Dont forget Mythbusters also proved the moon landing and 9-11 to be legit.

Hollywood sez so.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:41 | 6936313 pods
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Dude, they have that 2x2 reflector up there. We bounce a laser off of it to tell time.  Just don't think about the MOA of it all.

:)

 

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:50 | 6936361 OregonGrown
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I heard that laser bounces off the moon, back to earth, and didnt need the supposed "reflector"......

not to be confused with a deflector.......

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:28 | 6936587 pods
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lol, that is funny because I have said exactly that.

Glad they now have reflectors on flagsticks, otherwise your laser rangefinder wouldn't work on the course. :)

Of course they bounce it off the moon, like a photon has a snowball's chance in hell of making it there, hitting their reflector, and then returning to hit the detector.

pods

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:46 | 6936705 Transformer
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I don't know about the moon landings.  I'm waiting to see a video where the Astronauts demonstrate that they are in 1/6th G.  You know what I mean, jumping 6-9 feet up off the ground, or running leaps of 15-20'.  Any good shape adult male could easily do that with a 78 pound pack on his back in 1/6th gravity.

Until I see said video, I'm holding judgement.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:51 | 6937013 Johnny Horscaulk
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Dude the apollo suit was about 180 pounds
http://history.nasa.gov/spacesuits.pdf

So a 170 pound guy with suit is looking at around.. 60 pounds.

6-9 feet?

I dunno. But I also doubt that theres a 1:1 correlation where if you can jump 2 feet here you can jump 12 feet in 1/6 g. But - i defer to... Whoever know about muscle kinetics or what not. But it probably isnt the case that you can say 1/2 g = 2x jump height > 1/3 = 3x >> etc.

Bear in mind - 2 objects of different mass in a vacuum still hit the surface at essentially the same time... You are being acted on by gravity at all points.

http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/1DKin/Lesson-5/The-Big-Misconception

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 19:40 | 6937469 Squid Viscous
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at 1/6 gravity odell beckham coulda grabbed the whole landing craft in his orangutang sized hands!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:09 | 6936812 Johnny Horscaulk
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Pods thats why they used a laser firing quadrillions of them.

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/pesky-problems-for-lunar-r...

http://www.moonlandinghoax.org/8.html

And I guess the soviets faked landing a rover with retrorefs and some french dudes got in on that sweet hoax action too, eh?

http://m.space.com/20865-soviet-moon-rover-lunokhod-laser.html

Of course you cant see artifacts as small as were
left eith an earth based telescope which is why nasa had to fake images from their LRO too, right?
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/observing/celestial-objects-to-watch/moon...

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/12/moon-hoax-why-...

Presumably back in '69 nasa had video or film tech no one else did
http://gizmodo.com/5977205/why-the-moon-landings-could-have-never-ever-b...

But...how'd they fake the trajectory of dust kicking back from the rover? Vacuum and low g and all, I mean? That sure was a neat trick!

http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/proof-we-landed-moon-dust

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 12:24 | 6939362 OregonGrown
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Come on Buzz.... you dont have to lie to kick it!  We will still let you sell your autographed selfies taken in space for 10K....

http://www.cnet.com/news/buzz-aldrins-1966-space-selfie-sells-for-9200/

Fool me once, shame on you....... Fool me twice, I am a fucking idiot that believes EVERYTHING that is spoon fed to me!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:02 | 6936432 GhostOfDiogenes
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I bet you believe the earth is flat too don't yah?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:10 | 6936486 OregonGrown
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I bet you believe in unmanipulated markets too, dont yah?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:14 | 6936162 The Spanish Amb...
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On that note, we'll close with a quote from an unnamed official who suggested that the US needs to keep the ISIS propaganda machine operational so Washignton can "learn" from it.

 

I see your propaganda and raise you two propaganda.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:15 | 6936164 Cautiously Pess...
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Warner Brothers Studios in Burbank California.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:16 | 6936171 jaap
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Rita...., where are you??

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:23 | 6936211 Bay of Pigs
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Yeah, I noticed Katz and SITE were not on that chart.

Question is, why?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:58 | 6936371 Squid Viscous
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you weren't supposed to see the Wizard of Oz either... until they called him out from behind the curtain

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:17 | 6936179 Squid Viscous
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Hymiewood?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:25 | 6936181 JustObserving
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The US is hardly likely to bomb Langley which also produced all those fine Osama-bin-Laden videos after his death on Dec. 15, 2001 in Afghanistan.

Forward - to more propaganda and more fake war on terror

CIA Produces Video Containing Fake Osama bin Laden'

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=aaround03CIAFakeOsamaVideo

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:26 | 6936190 Dr. Engali
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Why would the U.S want to do anything with Langly? I know why the American people would, but not he dipshits in Washington.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:51 | 6936368 Flagit
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Langly Productions. Someone should make them an IMDB page.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:23 | 6936210 Budd aka Sidewinder
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Maybe if they produced the videos in a hospital where they were caring for sick children

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:43 | 6936320 pods
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"Amerikan Special forces successfully snuck on top of the ISIS media headquarters last night and painted a big fucking red cross on top of it, thus allowing an airstrike to be called in."

pods

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:00 | 6936420 GhostOfDiogenes
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Sorry. That will never happen.

Go back to fellating putin, and cup the balls....

'Merican special forces are full of the biggest pro government pro team america you can ever come close to in the military.

Seriously, its full of morons. Not a brain among them.

They follow orders no matter how unconstitutional.

They are....the us military.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:32 | 6936615 pods
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Even schizophrenics are confused by that post.

Bravo.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:37 | 6936971 PoasterToaster
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Variant form of the "word salad" troll.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:02 | 6937058 Johnny Horscaulk
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you should go find a former Green Beret and, using small words, inform him how stupid he is.

Please get back to us with how that goes.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:24 | 6936220 44magnum
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They had no trouble taking down the TOR silk road website and arresting the so called owner but close down their pet projects fuck no we cant do that. Fucking lying POSS

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:26 | 6936221 MsCreant
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Would someone please tell Putin where they are located? 

(I intend more irony with this comment than you might think at first blush).

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:45 | 6936331 pods
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Yeah but if he launches an airstrike on the US proper he might start a war.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:19 | 6936533 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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America, year 2030, bedtime.

"How did the war of 2016 start, Daddy?"

"It all started when they hit us back, son. Now close your three eyes and go to sleep."

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:20 | 6936541 MsCreant
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Yup. Who here thinks Putin does not know?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:38 | 6936645 pods
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Question is though is he bound by some kind of unspoken rule to not speak about psyops of others?

Maybe he should offer up some targets, publicly to the "Allies" in this?  That would be a hoot.  

Here is where we found ISIS editing facilities, do you want first shot?  Then drone video it being evacuated with spooks leaving in Suburbans.

pods

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:26 | 6936227 SoDamnMad
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I like the LiveLeak video of the Apache flying by the long, long convoy of ISIS Hilux Toyotas with not a single shot fired.  I don't know why Toyota doesn't use that video in their commercials.   Some jingle like,  "Toyota is Apache tough"

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:33 | 6936254 Lumberjack
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Yea I saw a toyota tow the space shuttle, somehow it doesn't make it to space....

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:58 | 6936409 Flagit
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Ever hear about the Garden Gnome that was stolen from a couple, then started sending pictures home of itself from all around the world before coming back?

I can see the stolen Toyota plumbing truck doing something like that, sending back pics of itself in Mosul, Tikrit, Raqqa, Aleppo.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:31 | 6936610 NevadaMirage
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That was actually a Russian Hind but admitting that would be no fun now, would it!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 20:51 | 6937734 conscious being
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Hey retard. Look at the video. Can you see the Apache now?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fa1_1447202795

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:28 | 6936234 Duc888
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Nope, no link at all.  DHS = Islamists..

http://www.redstate.com/2015/12/15/dhs-director-jeh-johnson-part-isis-sl...

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:13 | 6937102 Johnny Horscaulk
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Clever islamist appointing a zionist jew activist as co-head of the newly created Department of Homeland Security’s “Task Force on Foreign Fighters.”

http://davidduke.com/zio-control-us-government-blatant-jewish-supremacis...

What would Michael Chertoff have done?
http://youtu.be/t9cn8m1j-wo

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:40 | 6936305 wisebastard
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ZH knows to but they dont have the ball to post the shit.............they will keep up the BS child games like the hardcore pedophiles they are......................hail satan.........right bitches

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:18 | 6936532 MsCreant
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Your screen name does not fit. I dub thee "Weirdbastard."

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:44 | 6936328 Fuku Ben
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“There’s always this balance between needing to take action and needing to study how they operate. Bombing is absolutely not the only way to take a communications product offline.”

That's the same thing the criminals that ran Fast and Furious said while they continued to supply weapons to terroristas. The same weapons then used to murder a Federal Agent and massacred a bunch of school kids among others.

You have to stage the right scenario when you move in to bust your own operation or the sheep might catch on to the fraud. Now that they've been called out on it publicly the clock is ticking. The oil truck drivers got 45 minutes advance notice. The movie studio production crew and equipment need 48 hours to relocate before they bomb the empty building and declare victory. Only to have the invincible ISIS release a new video a few days later from the same cave Osama used in Tora Bora.

If people weren't getting killed over this garbage it would almost be comical.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:19 | 6936535 spanish inquisition
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State department - "Much of what they are producing is highly effective state of the art propaganda beyond anything we arec currently doing in the US. We need to study their techniques to see what we can use back in the US."

."

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:46 | 6936343 farflungstar
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Obama. Always doing his damnedest to show whose side he's on. 

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:49 | 6936360 RonArgent
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These videos are hollywood jew media productions, every last one of them.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:50 | 6936366 blentus
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During the NATO bombing of Serbia in 1999, USA had no problems bombing a state TV building and killing 16 people. Because everything was a legitimate target back then (bridges, refineries, etc).

Cunts.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 19:19 | 6937374 Abaco
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Well, Clinton did have a blowjob to cover up.  

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 15:55 | 6936389 Raul44
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"Intelligence officials have spent months mapping out known physical locations of media safe houses..." >> ...and not ended up in Hollywood yet? So its rubbish.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:02 | 6936426 Flagit
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They just haven't figured out a way to profit from bombing themselves yet.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:39 | 6936977 Urtica ferox
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"They just haven't figured out a way to profit from bombing themselves yet."

They mustn't be that smart or well read then, considering Joseph Heller wrote the instruction manual, published in 1961 (Milo Minderbinder in "Catch 22").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_Minderbinder

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:26 | 6937135 PeakOil
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Ah Milo... +1 for the Catch-22 reference!

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:04 | 6936440 atthelake
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It should be obvious to everyone, by now. The American government is pro isis.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:07 | 6936464 orangegeek
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Barry sucks islamic terrorist cock for oil kickbacks.

 

Too bad oil is in the toilet.  Suck a little harder Barry.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:11 | 6936497 Joe Tierney
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Yeah, the elitist puppeteers have the poosie they want for president.....

 

That's why, if Trump really is an action guy and no-nonsense leader (I doubt it, though) he'll never get elected, or if he somehow does, he won't live long enough to make a difference.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:27 | 6936583 Be_Optimistic
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I love how they say "We don't want to kill civilians, otherwise we would hve take out these ISIS media centers" knowing full well the response of the public will be.. "JUST GO FOR IT!"  giving the green light to kill civillians as its justified because ISIS. Slippery slope.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:10 | 6936599 Mike Masr
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Worried about civilian casualities..yeah right..give me a break...

Civilians (women and children included) have been dying by the hundreds of thousands in Syria for years while the US continued to support the proxy armies that contributed to the instability.

And what about the US sponsored punitive operation in Ukraine that targets Russian speaking civilians in the eastern Donbas region? Ukrainian operations have targeted elementary schools, nursing homes, hospitals and residential neighborhoods and this is all good with Barry Obozo...Their crimes? They speak Russian and they don't approve of the US sponsored banderist neo nazi junta that overthrew their country...this makes them criminals. 

Worried about civilian casualities..yeah right....

 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:32 | 6936602 PrimalScream
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Excuse me ...

but DUHHHH "Tyler" ... you get an Epic Fail for being James Bond.

If indeed the US knows where these safe houses really are located, i.e. the places producing the slimy ISIS videos, the VERY LAST THING that should be done - is to reveal their location or bomb them. 

What you would want to do - is to secretly track all the people going in and out of these places ... and THEN KILL THEM.

By the way - isn't that exactly what the USA has been doing????

Will you please stop assuming that everything that is done by America is stupid or mindless. This actually sounds like brilliant intel work .. by somebody.  There might be issues about how some of this information was "actioned" ... but somebody did a stellar job if this story is true. 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:58 | 6936744 MsCreant
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I did not junk you.

Primal, 

If they are as successful at recruitment as is claimed in the article, wouldn't it be better to shut them down and not have the propaganda out there in the first place? There are laws against this stuff. 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:12 | 6937099 Johnny Horscaulk
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'By the way - isn't that exactly what the USA has been doing????'

No.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 21:32 | 6937846 samsara
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"...and THEN KILL THEM."

That is predicated on the ( not agreed up) assumption that the goal is to kill them.

Why would certain forces want to have ISIS exist?  You HAVE to have a bad guy.  The evil bad guy.  A Goldstein. "THEM"  THEY can strike anywhere. Ready made villian for "Terrorist" attacks.

Hmm.  Because of  "THEM",   WE got the Patriot Act.

Figure it out.

(They receive air drops of supplies for god sake, picked up 200 million cash from a bank when they drove their fleet of new white trucks thru Iraq "coming on the scene out of nowhere.  )

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:31 | 6936608 Grandad Grumps
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London, Tel Aviv and Langley?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:39 | 6936654 o r c k
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Why would they destroy what they've sworn to destroy.  They've sworn to uphold the Constitution too. No can do.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 16:48 | 6936661 Mike Masr
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Hopefully Putin takes these maggots out right as they are shooting some bullshit terror video. Would love to see the film on youtube interrupted by a Russian bomb!!!  In the background noise some useless maggot with his limbs shredded will be softly muttering allahu akhbar. LMAO

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:19 | 6936868 Kirk2NCC1701
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Wait a minute... I thought that the Caucasus region was for Caucasians, not for mountain trolls.

If we are to leverage the meme of land reclamation of the 6-star Zios, then...  "It's high time to reclaim the Ancestral Land of the Caucasus for the 5-star people."

/serious or sarc?  Take it any way you like.  Just stop "taking it" though.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:57 | 6937041 Bring the Gold
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I get this is a justified crack at Israel but it's too hard to read. Can you restate?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 20:44 | 6937716 Demdere
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Don't recall the full story, but it is the idea that Modern Jews are not an ancient tribe of Israel, but a more recent offshoot of a turkish tribe, the 'kazars', I perhaps remember?

The recent DNA study I read somewhere says 'no', I didn't ever take it seriously enough to follow into the evidence, for what that is worth.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:20 | 6936874 Nexus789
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Shows how vulnerable ships are to missiles and these are not even the specialist high speed anti ship types 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:25 | 6936908 roadhazard
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But will the UN Security Counsil find out ? One of you should email them.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:26 | 6936916 Aussie V
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"Do I hear 6? Can I get 6 for this once fine Saudi navy?"

'6'

"I have six, Do I hear seven? Seven Saudi ships sunk by an enemy without a Navy? Can anyone offer me seven?"

'7'

"Yes, we have seven!"

 

http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/20583/

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:48 | 6936999 Collectivism Killz
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Does this mean Putin is going to have to strike Universal Studios with a few Kalibrs? Please let me know, I have family near Orlando.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 17:56 | 6937036 JenkinsLane
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Fringe, tinfoil hat blogs are now one of the last bastions of real journalism. Strange, isn't it?

Kudos, Tyler. 

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:20 | 6937126 Johnny Horscaulk
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Has Rita Katz been memoryholed already?

Sure is a lot of that going around these days

http://youtu.be/flWqM5xLUPM

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 20:47 | 6937718 YHC-FTSE
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Nice link mate! Ryan Dawson just got himself another fan. I reckon it'll be well worth watching his documentary during Christmas. Thanks.

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 22:12 | 6937941 Demdere
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Yes, awesome link, thanks for the link and the recommendation.

I am looking at his web site, there is more info.

www.ancreport.com

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 18:46 | 6937220 windcatcher
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The Washington Empire fascist steam-roller moves forward undeterred by reality. Can anyone say “Psyco”?

Thu, 12/17/2015 - 23:33 | 6938128 Crush the cube
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The al-Hayat Media Center, you spelled Hyatt wrong.

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 00:48 | 6938218 The Ingenious G...
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...videos that Islamic State operatives have produced using elaborate graphic animations, special effects, live-action speed edits and Hollywood-quality voice-overs.

I find this a bit silly. Any high school student taking film class can do the first three and you can hire professional voices on fiver.com to do the voiceover for $5. The people that go over the top describing the Hollywoodesque effects sound like they just woke up from a 30-year sleep.

Fri, 12/18/2015 - 01:40 | 6938272 onmail1
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<--- Satan America is the source of all Terrorism

 

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