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CISA Is Now The Law: How Congress Quietly Passed The Second Patriot Act
Update: CISA is now the law: OBAMA SIGNS SPENDING, TAX BILL THAT REPEALS OIL EXPORT BAN
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Back in 2014, civil liberties and privacy advocates were up in arms when the government tried to quietly push through the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act, or CISA, a law which would allow federal agencies - including the NSA - to share cybersecurity, and really any information with private corporations "notwithstanding any other provision of law." The most vocal complaint involved CISA’s information-sharing channel, which was ostensibly created for responding quickly to hacks and breaches, and which provided a loophole in privacy laws that enabled intelligence and law enforcement surveillance without a warrant.
Ironically, in its earlier version, CISA had drawn the opposition of tech firms including Apple, Twitter, Reddit, as well as the Business Software Alliance, the Computer and Communications Industry Association and many others including countless politicians and, most amusingly, the White House itself.
In April, a coalition of 55 civil liberties groups and security experts signed onto an open letter opposing it. In July, the Department of Homeland Security itself warned that the bill could overwhelm the agency with data of “dubious value” at the same time as it “sweep[s] away privacy protections.” Most notably, the biggest aggregator of online private content, Facebook, vehemently opposed the legislation however a month ago it was "surprisingly" revealed that Zuckerberg had been quietly on the side of the NSA all along as we reported in "Facebook Caught Secretly Lobbying For Privacy-Destroying "Cyber-Security" Bill."
Even Snowden chimed in:
Shameful: @Facebook secretly backing Senate's zombie #CISA surveillance bill while publicly pretending to oppose it. https://t.co/du7RK7V1WJ
— Edward Snowden (@Snowden) October 25, 2015
Following the blitz response, the push to pass CISA was tabled following a White House threat to veto similar legislation. Then, quietly, CISA reemerged after the same White House mysteriously flip-flopped, expressed its support for precisely the same bill in August.
And then the masks fell off, when it became obvious that not only are corporations eager to pass CISA despite their previous outcry, but that they have both the White House and Congress in their pocket.
As Wired reminds us, when the Senate passed the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act by a vote of 74 to 21 in October, privacy advocates were again "aghast" that the key portions of the law were left intact which they said make it more amenable to surveillance than actual security, claiming that Congress has quietly stripped out "even more of its remaining privacy protections."
"They took a bad bill, and they made it worse," says Robyn Greene, policy counsel for the Open Technology Institute.
But while Congress was preparing a second assault on privacy, it needed a Trojan Horse with which to enact the proposed legislation into law without the public having the ability to reject it.
It found just that by attaching it to the Omnibus $1.1 trillion Spending Bill, which passed the House early this morning, passed the Senate moments ago and will be signed into law by the president in the coming hours.
This is how it happened, again courtesy of Wired:
In a late-night session of Congress, House Speaker Paul Ryan announced a new version of the “omnibus” bill, a massive piece of legislation that deals with much of the federal government’s funding. It now includes a version of CISA as well. Lumping CISA in with the omnibus bill further reduces any chance for debate over its surveillance-friendly provisions, or a White House veto. And the latest version actually chips away even further at the remaining personal information protections that privacy advocates had fought for in the version of the bill that passed the Senate.
It gets: it appears that while CISA was on hiatus, US lawmakers - working under the direction of corporations adnt the NSA - were seeking to weaponize the revised legislation, and as Wired says, the latest version of the bill appended to the omnibus legislation seems to exacerbate the problem of personal information protections.
It creates the ability for the president to set up “portals” for agencies like the FBI and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, so that companies hand information directly to law enforcement and intelligence agencies instead of to the Department of Homeland Security. And it also changes when information shared for cybersecurity reasons can be used for law enforcement investigations. The earlier bill had only allowed that backchannel use of the data for law enforcement in cases of “imminent threats,” while the new bill requires just a “specific threat,” potentially allowing the search of the data for any specific terms regardless of timeliness.
Some, like Senator Ron Wyden, spoke out out against the changes to the bill in a press statement, writing they’d worsened a bill he already opposed as a surveillance bill in the guise of cybersecurity protections.
Senator Richard Burr, who had introduced the earlier version of bill, didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.
"Americans deserve policies that protect both their security and their liberty," he wrote. "This bill fails on both counts."
Why was the CISA included in the omnibus package, which just passed both the House and the Senate? Because any "nay" votes - or an Obama - would also threaten the entire budget of the federal government. In other words, it was a question of either Americans keeping their privacy or halting the funding of the US government, in effect bankrupting the nation.
And best of all, the rushed bill means there will be no debate.
The bottom line as OTI's Robyn Green said, "They’ve got this bill that’s kicked around for years and had been too controversial to pass, so they’ve seen an opportunity to push it through without debate. And they’re taking that opportunity."
The punchline: "They’re kind of pulling a Patriot Act."
And when Obama signs the $1.1 trillion Spending Bill in a few hours, as he will, it will be official: the second Patriot Act will be the law, and with it what little online privacy US citizens may enjoy, will be gone.

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Seig Heil
What did you think of Chairman Mao's 5 year austerity plan outlined on the radio last night comrade?
If you like your tyranny you can keep your tyranny.
You didnt build that!
The Zionist Brains behind the homosexual deviate, Bath House, knew they only had to get a guy in Office who would legislate their Agenda if only by EO or Fiat.
Now, you have the right to challenge this Fiat by the Second Amendment.
Sorry, it has come to that.
Fight or die in Slavery.
this
In interviews, Bath House presents himself as a 'normal liberal guy.'
He has been appointed to Obliterate the US.
Wake up.
This isn't all on Barry, as bad as he is. This is on everyone who voted for it in congress, too. They wanted this, so they voted for it. The system is rotten throughout. Trying to pin it all on one guy who's nothing more than a figurehead misses the much larger point. The people who really pull the strings operate behind the scenes, and we don't even know most of their names.
That said, these geriatric motherfuckers in congress should be dragged out into the street and hung from every lamp post in DC. We could put Christmas lights on them to make it more festive.
FIFY
Still waiting for the secret gun confiscation law......
Your wait is over, Kerry signed the UN Small Arms Treaty and there is gun grabbing legislation in the TPP. It is coming soon folks, hope your houses are in order.
Gonna be a lot of dead Fedcoats if they're ever stupid enough to try that shit.
It won't be Fedcoats, it will be UN blue-helmets and/or Chinese or Russian troops. One purpose of Jade Helm was to preposition weapons for these invading forces. We have been completely sold out by our own government. The good news is that, against all odds, we win.
Notice how they always pull this shit at the end of the year. Everyone's busy with the holidays and they quietly sneak this shit through, one step at a time, like boiling frogs.
@McMolotov:
You bring up a good point about voting. I think it’s crazy that an individual must surrender their responsibility of their inalienable. If people don’t vote I think they should still have their voice but it won’t be in DC it be where ever they are. Lobbyist would have to talk to them directly.
Right before Christmas. All the 'good' stuff is passed right before Christmas. It's like a practical joke on the Goyim or something. I think I called this a few months back, but I'm too lazy to search for it. What does it matter anyway?
Rights*
So they made "legal" what they were doing anyway. It's always funny how the workers of iniquity have to have a legal justification for their evildoing. As if. Who are they trying to fool? Me? You? God? Oh... right. THEMSELVES.
These are pathetic human beings and they deserve our compassion. How unhappy and insane they are.
All your ZeroHedge identifications is belong to us.
Not even Reggie Love could ever dream of penetrating Barry Buttfuck as much as Barry Buttfuck has allowed to occur while he was 'putting from the rough'.
" Yes we can! "
What I would like to know is WHO slipped it into the spending bill. It did not just magically insert itself into the bill. What Senator added it ?
I thought I read Paul Ryan at least for his chamber.
Anyone got the roll all by chance?
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/114-2015/s291
Republicans want to screw you out of your rights at a much higher rate than Democrats.
Cruz, Rubio, and Paul didn't vote because they stand for nothing.
Bernie voted against it.
Pardon me if I missed it, but I didn't notice any use of the political term 'Legitimacy' or the phrase "Consent of the Governed." Would someone please point me in the right direction?
Dianne Feinstein was the first to introduce it in 2014.
The corporations, of course. They benefit from analyzing which websites you visit, what music you listen to, what items you purchase online, etc., so they can make custom advertisments based on your profile.
fascism>anarchy>bloodshed>reset>liberty again???? or to-tal-a-terrism via one world bankster/ backed by force .0001 percent control?>over my dead body...
...If Hitlary cant win.....look for Obama to somehow score a third term.
NWO will never allow Trump or Sanders to win.
They might if they decide to pull the plug or go for WW3.
Can someone tell me exactly how establishment candidate, former lifelong (D) and backer of Hitlery foir NY Senate, The Donald is any different?
- War?
- Corporate welfare?
- The Fed?
- Debt Slavery?
Please enlighten me.
At least he will whisper sweet nothings in our ear while he's fucking us.
Because...
BLACK LIVES MATTER!
sarc off
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Federal Reserve Act
https://fraser.stlouisfed.org/scribd/?title_id=966&filepath=/docs/histor...
December 23, 1913
Internal Revenue Act
http://www.tax-freedom.com/originaltariff.pdf
One does not work as well without the other.
What's really amazing is that they go through the motions of passing a 'law'. Shows how vermin lawyers are the house slaves for TPTB. Probably think they could write on a piece of paper that they have the right to take all your property and rape your wives & daughters cause " its the law".
We find out if most of the police and military are the errand boys for the grocery clerks (money grubbing acquistors) who have conned the world.
The US needs to move towards direct democracy with referendums like they have in Switzerland or in Libya under Gaddafi.
exactly - time to renew the NDAA isn't it? oh, that's for New Year's Eve
Please supply the location of the prepositioned weapons....I need a couple of FLIR scopes.......
Careful now, that could be interpreted as an 'imminent threat'.
Seriously, we may have reached a time when many of us will have to 'go dark'. I'm not even joking. If this law can be applied retroactively, a good many of us may soon have company at our doors. I hope we are all prepared for the inevitable, because now I'm certain none of us will be allowed to just let this bullshit pass from the safety of our couches. And I may very well go dark myself soon.
When are all these fucking assholes going to be shot? I am so goddam fucking done with all this! All I can think about is how the fuck I can go full Galt, shore up and reemerge when they go one step too far and they are finally overrun.
What the fuck is wrong with people? We are light years beyond voting and negotiating. This is WAR for our own survival! The pieces are placed, check mate is near and everyone around me has their head buried buried up their ass, or more appropriately, their personal tracking device.
Time to explore alternatives and face we all must consider going underground. Dark times are coming and the time is running out to prepare.
Miffed
Even Miffed is pissed off, I just knew something was funny in the air today. ( :
"Even Miffed is pissed off, I just knew something was funny in the air today. ( :"
Yes she is, and aren't we all?
As I've suggested before, ZHr's should get together at a common meeting place sometime, and have a pow-wow. (assuming we don't get droned, it could be quite beneficial).
Is there a way like-minded ZHer's can get to know each other, especially those who live close? Maybe the relationship button? Because I'm more than open to meeting people here who live in California (I'm in Sacramento). I think we are at the point now where we will need all the friends we can possibly make. It's time to do this before they ban public congregations, because you KNOW that's coming soon after the next wave of FF's and martial law (which is probably inevitable now).
"Even Miffed is pissed off". Thats nothing new. She's been miffed ever since I first met her (here on ZH).
IV, I agree, this really needs to happen locally and long distance. Hell, I drive 1000+ Mi. round trip to work, I can travel to meet/help/get-to-know like minded souls. I can also provide the lime and shovels for those that don't "make the cut". <s>
Tyler should open up a chain of Zero Hedge lounges.
I'd be happy to run the Zero Hedge Bar and Grill in Maui....
I volunteer for the one on TN's Cumberland Plateau!
Chunga, Beautiful area, I bet a LOT of those Freedom Flags are flying high and proud in that neighborhood right now. They damn sure are in the AR Ozarks...
Oh yeah they're everywhere, I got a 3 x 5 hanging on my porch with a Christmas wreath in the middle lit up. The chickens got one above their coop too. We're "out in the county" as they like to say around here...so it's pretty rural, quiet.
Maui sounds nice...it's ~25F right now...wood stove going nice inside though.
Hey there neighbor.
Anywhere near Crossville? There's another ZH'er from Tellico Plains...I love Tellico Plains.
Born in Gainsboro, north of Nashville now.
If you're ever near Crossville hit me up bro....my screen name with the number 85 directly after it...hotmail. I get the best white lightning around :-)
Sounds good!
@ Implied Violins
That is such a bad idea to have like minds meet in the same general area.
I once thought that was a good idea for those of us on the East Coast to get together, but reality set in.
Hellfire missiles, or random gas explosions do happen.
Thermite Canisters on top of Gas Meters are just far too easy to place...
I'd be happy to host the San Diego contingent. I make it up to Oroville occasionally so I'd be happy to shake hands with the Sacramento crowd. Nice to meet a few like minded souls in the land of the unenlightened.
Miffed
TeamDepends, Here's a link related to your comment. (via Breitbart) The name being tossed around is (SCN) Strong Cities Network.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/02/obama-administration-...
+1000
Everybody should know about the SCN. Another Paris link!
http://strongcitiesnetwork.org/
http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/strong_cities_network_will_foster...
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/launch-strong-cities-network-strengthen-co...
“Members of the [Strong Cities] network will join in the network’s first annual summit in Paris in spring 2016. The network will be led by a steering committee of about 25 cities and regions, and will be run by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, described in the press release as a “leading international ‘think-and-do’ tank” that fights violent extremism.”
Everyone should also know about the UNPA.
http://en.unpacampaign.org/
“The Campaign for the Establishment of a United Nations Parliamentary Assembly is a global network of parliamentarians and non-governmental organizations advocating for citizens’ representation at the United Nations.
A United Nations Parliamentary Assembly (UNPA) would be the first parliamentary body directly representing the world’s citizens in the United Nations. It is envisaged as first practical step towards the long-term goal of a world parliament.”
We've been sold down the river by both (R) and (D). That's why I refer to the next scenario as Red Blue Dawn.
A third party would be good. The thing is, if it were to get populated with retard red jello or blue jello supporters, it would suck too.
I think that makes no sense whatsoever.
If it comes to shooting in the US, the central authorities will be decimated. No way can they do more than cause immense damage. We citizens have far too many tools available to cause them damage, and don't have to fire a shot. Their airlines won't run if we citizens don't wan the airlines to run, as an example.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/20/ghandis-terrorists/
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/01/08/operation-afghanistan-1000...
ora ny of
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/patriot-games/
and realize I am one of the nicest such web sites, I do not advocate killing people, not even hurting their persons if I can avoid it. But we can make them very broke and unable to live in our vicinity.
A UN force trying to enforce a treaty as superior to our constitution's fundamental provisions would have the half-life of a gnat and do nothing but unify a lot of people who otherwise go on hating each other. Our Israeli-Neocons are keeping their necks un-bifurcated by our hating each other, they will not give that up except for a Stalinist state. That must be their goal, nothing else keeps them unlopped.
Israeli-Neocons are the existential threat to America.
This is historically correct.
The populace gets what it wants...100 percent of the time.
The trick is choice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3xek7hAhu4
UN observers in the US? Obama has 1 year left.
Its not secret, it was introduced on Wednesday: https://www.opencongress.org/bill/hr4269-114/show
Just tell me what traitors in congress voted for this omni bus bill............
Good point. That's why I've never gotten the whole "If you don't vote, you have no right to complain" argument. Non-voters are the only people who should be complaining about this.
People who vote don't just vote for candidates, they vote to legitimize the whole charade. Both Republicans and Democrats own this. If people are still delusional enough to believe there's a significant difference between the two parties, they belong in a padded room.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/17/paul-ryan-builds-bord...
One law for "us", another law for the proletariat.
It is rather enlightening to see where your "Civil SERVANTS" are able to live, in considerable style and comfort, especially in view of the nasty little fact that YOU are paying for their security / largesse.
Gated communities and publically - funded armed security for the "connected", crumbling infrastructure but plenty of taxation / "fees" / roadside larceny-at-gunpoint for "the Masses" . . . .
Spot on McMolotov! Just because one does not choose "the lesser of two evils" and vote FOR evil (which is what you're doing at that point) does not mean that you don't have a right to bitch about that unilateral phallus penetrating you...
#Moose - do ya think that the state, who knows all of the CONgress critter secrets via their full spectum dominance, would not use that power? Put another way - do you think that they ever had a choice? My take is that the worst candidates (with the most to loose) somehow get the majority of vote in the (s)elections. Long Diebold.
Yes. A Mutual Gonad Clutcher's Union.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/01/08/operation-soft-samson/
MGCU is a variant of the Pan-Galactic Buggery view of the world.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/22/pan-galactic-buggery-game/
One of the most serious deficiencies in modern education, I find, is the paucity of Points of View thatthey leave in student's minds. This is especially true in civics, I hypothesize being due to the need for pliable citizens, the crippling of critical thought capabilities.
No vetting of Mulsims only spying on law abiding Americans? This is disgraceful!
You can say all that because we live in a free country. But you can't say Christmas lights, those are now Holiday lights.
We are so fucked.
The bill also repeals a key provision of the 2010 Wall Street Reform Act.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/227052-senate-passes-$1.1T-funding-bill
Who can't say Christmas lights? You typed it, I typed it, everyone I know says it.
I guess I just don't get this war on christmas stuff comes from.
"Don't know their names"? Are you kidding me, buddy?
FFS, they are all Christian and Jewish Zionists, working in the Military-Surveillance Complex, and licking the boots of Globalist Banksters, Oligarchs and DC Israeli Firsters.
They are scared witless/shitless at the Big Retribution that will follow the Big Reset on the USD, so they are front-running it to save their filthy hides.
As some of us here have said many times... if Russia and China don't lead the BRICS and the EM from the USD and the boa-constrictor it has become, and if they don't bring out their version of SWIFT (CIPS, RIPS) really soon, it's all over but the crying. It will also be a 'tell' that perhaps they are all in it together for a NWO, and that the Russians and Chinese oligarchs were merely jockeying for better seats at the NWO table.
Nothing surprises or shocks my anymore. The only things left that they can't be manipulated are The Laws of Nature, Mathematics and Logic. And I'm not so sure about that Logic thing, if I look at the willful idiots on US campuses (Missou, Ha'va'd, Yale...). All other man-made constructs are up for grabs and very suspect, until unequivocally proven otherwise.
-Fed up & cranky Kirk out.
It occurred to me last night that a very good time to announce gold backing to your currency might be in the middle of an epic financial collapse in the US. Which the Fed may have precipitated a day or two ago.
Just a thought. I'm sure it has also occurred to anyone who might be thinking about going that route. Particularly if they are sort of at war with the USSA.
BBC has a great slideshow of the new Spratly Island buildups :
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35031313
shows the natural state before and after buildup. Very impressive. Certainly gives China more leeway for air and sea maneuvers.
Defense Minister in the new Polish government "acknowledged there was debate about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion authenticity, but told a listener: “Experience shows that there are such groups in Jewish circles.”"
Then last night, Polish military police raid Nato centre in Warsaw. Looks like the Poles woke up.
a certain prominent talk show host back 5 years ago constantly talked about how the West would be collapsed and then merged with Russia. I don't hear that anymore but what Kirk says above is on the money. Remember the September Pope Extravaganza & the UN - there Putin came out ON BOARD with the Climate Change narrative. That's a TELL.
Turkey military base in Qatar ? interesting. The debate the other day, the Repugs seemed like it's a foregone conclusion that Iraq should/must be divided into parts ....
but now Assad can stay ?
Don't call them Christians. Most 'Christians" are from the same tribe that voted to have him tortured and hung, even after the governor admitted he saw no wrong doing in the man.
Like the US of A, will bomb, napalm, nuke, innocents to prove to themselves they are 'superior'. Know why the USA is no longer demanding Assad in Syria be toppled, there is no one left in that country to dictate or rule, The former Syrians are either dead or are refugees. A 'Christian' nation did that. Meanwhile I think old JC would puke if he knew what is happening in his name.
The Bathhouse is stinkin bad though. But good point.
That said, these geriatric motherfuckers in congress should be dragged out into the street and hung from every lamp post in DC. We could put Christmas lights on them to make it more festive.
I'm more a fan of dragging them out and setting them on fire - then putting them out *just* before they die - when their skin is melted away - so they can spent the rest of their lives in agony, looking like the horrors they truly are. Killing them quickly is WAY too lenient IMO.
Thank God for your voice of measured response and clear thinking reason. I shudder to think what the extremists would do if given half a chance.
You are the voice of Middle America, raised in a song of hope. I salute you!
Shit for Brains - he is not the voice of Middle America, come on - he's Trogdor of the Troglodyte Klan ... they're a little, oh how do you say, got shit for brains :)
just kidding Troggy, enjoy your Friday
Wrap them in cellophane and set them on fire. Sounds pretty festive to me.
Every single lying cheating corrupt elected career politician needs to have their skin sandpapered off buried in salt then thrown out in the middle of an Iranian desert with a can of Pennzoil. That goes triple for the fudgepacker.
Electing & reflecting these miedras is pure insanity. And not voting in 2016 is the same as a vote for the lying cheating shriveled up dried up twat cunt-on. And even if you down vote me, you know that's true.
As I was reading the article, the exact same thing occured to me.
I think the time has come for The Second American Revolution. It's been brewing quietly for several years now, but I think it's time to come out into the open.
Read that again you traitorous NSA fucks.
The majority of Americans are so terrified of their own sneeze they'd welcome this even if they understood it
No, not really. If they fully understood it, only a small minority of Americans would welcome this. As dumbed down as they are, they are still freer than the vast majority of humans who have ever lived. No free person willingly steps into the shackles of slavery.
They're doing EVERYTHING they can to start shit everywhere and we should all know why by now, the ponzi is about to bust and they need shit to cover it up.
Simple, don't play their fucking game people, refuse to do battle with them and watch em sqiurm, fucking puppets of the elite.
Dunno about that Depends. I laugh at their NSA-subsidized personal tracking and data-collection devices, and people keep telling me they have no problem whatsoever with the NSA collecting that data. They're quite open about it. One after the other. Sheep lining up to be slaughtered, jostling to get to the front of the line.
NOT my government, I never consented to their terms.
I did not sign a contract, I will not comply.
Fuck you!
You won't hear about this story on the evening news but you'll probably hear about this;
http://www.aol.com/article/2015/12/18/donald-trump-left-joe-scarborough-...
And so many people in these threads do not understand who the enemy of our country is : The people who did 9/11 in order to seize power and have driven all of the wars since.
9/11 is the only important issue, it defines all others, and if you adopt 9/11-centric thought, you come to very different conclusions about the state of the world and who is who.
9/11 was a false flag operation against the American people by Israeli-Neocons throughout our own government. Those people and many others committed treason, they cinspired with a foreign entity against their country.
They will hang if 9/11 is ever considered in a normal political context. Therefore, there can be no peace so long as they are in power, and the course has been consistently toward revolution. What is driving that? Who is driving that? Those are the questions that will expose more relationships than we can imagine.
Israeli-Neocons are the existential threat to America.
When we finally get around to removing the criminal bastards from office, there are going to be a lot of large, flat rocks over-turned. I bet you our bit of the modern world is every bit as dirty as East Germany, and our Stasis in much more complete control. It will be a lot better documented, links of criminal behavior galore.
That is what is driving all that. They need you to hate, to be maximally distracted with wars and social conflict and terrorism. It keeps their heads out of nooses.
They can have my data when they pry if from my cold dead hard drive...
I have a couple of those.
right. warming them up in the microwave doesn't seem to help, either.
no - but if you iphone gets wet, that's what the microwave is for. ol' sillycon valley trick, don't go blab blab it around ya know ... just 45-50 seconds should do it
Fuck Paul Ryan.
Besides, with that beard he looks like he joined ISIS.
"...with that beard he looks like he joined ISIS."
I was about to write that he looks like a New York KIKE, then I realised it's the same thing!
>"And when Obama signs the $1.1 trillion Spending Bill"...WRITTEN by the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS!
>"And when Obama signs the $1.1 trillion Spending Bill"...WRITTEN by the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS!
>"And when Obama signs the $1.1 trillion Spending Bill"...WRITTEN by the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS!
>"And when Obama signs the $1.1 trillion Spending Bill"...WRITTEN by the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS!
>"And when Obama signs the $1.1 trillion Spending Bill"...WRITTEN by the REPUBLICAN CONGRESS!
Get that you Rightwingfucknuts that spend all day bitching about "Obama did this, Obama wants that"...Obama my fucking ass!
There is NOTHING Obama "can do" without APPROVAL OF THE CONGRESS which is currently CONTROLED BY REPUBLICANS!
Even powers granted to the President by the Constitution can be OVERRIDDEN via IMPEACHMENT!
So stop spending your days posting all that stupid "Obama" shit on your FaceBook pages and START lighting a FIRE under the ASSES of the "Republicans" you so foolishly "believe in".
Note: Hat tip to you Trump supporters; I have my reservations about Trump, but at least he is a BIG, a Huuuge, FUCK YOU to the Republican establishment. I ESPECIALLY relish watching jeb BUSH fight to hit 4% support and I only wish I could witness the "Shock and Awe" of his big money supporters that are starting to gripe about whether he's serious about winning...loving it!
Note Note: Slight hat tip to you Bernie supporters, he's not a "Fuck You" to the Dem establishment, but at least he's a nice "FUCK YOU" to Hillary...just too bad Bernie showed his hand with his "We're tired of Hillary's emails" comment...note to Bernie...NO WE'RE NOT!
Correct! Don't forget that Republican scumbag PHIL GRAM (from Texas of all places), who led the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act in 1999, and got it stealth-passed just before the X-Mass break during the lame-duck Clinton presidency, in Dec. 1999. They shoved that shit-sandwich into some budget bill, that no one admits to having read that section.
Magic Phil later became a big-shot on the board at UBS, after the 2008/2009 Crash and TPTF bailouts. Surprised?
So let's stop blaming the "Democrats", you faux-Libertarians out there, when there's PLENTY of Republican blame to go around in this One-Ring, One-Coin Government -- that consists of mostly of Leeches, Opportunists, Parasites and Sociopaths of all political stripes, gender and sexual orientation.
That bill would not have passed without the House Democrats supporting the bill.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/106-1999/h355
I'm aware of that, as I'm aware that 3 Republicans and 1 Democrat were pushing the Bill, with Phil leading the charge.
But, like I said, there's plenty of blame to go around for members of both parties, in this One-Party, One-Ring, One-Coin system.
It's like preferring which leg to walk with: "The left leg or the right leg?"
"That bill would not have passed without the House Democrats supporting the bill"
For Fucks-sake, right back to where we started..."Um, Duh, if it wasn't for them Dumocrats' this wouldna passed"
Passed? What about WRITING the fucken thing? That comes BEFORE the vote! Who wrote this bitch?
Great tits, uuh comment.
Don't you all get it yet? They are ALL bought and owned by the same group of moneyed powers.
It's a two lane road into DC.
Losers on the left, winners on the right.
(Depending which side you're on)
To avoid /sarc, it's all about staying power.
yes - who's all up for upgrading Firebrander's avatar to a GIF that shows the next second as the Jigglies Jiggle up & down ?
"With the Republicans and the Democrats, it's like Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dumb. There's not a dime's worth of difference between the two of them."
––George C. Wallace, 1968. [Erstwhile presidential canadidate, governor and First Gentleman of Alabama, inveterate racist, semi-repentitent at the end.]
––George C. Wallace, 1968. [Erstwhile presidential canadidate, governor and First Gentleman of Alabama, inveterate racist, semi-repentitent and semi-ambulatory at the end.]
It's a longer epitath than than most of us are going to get.
The emails comment was to save Hilliary and siphon off her voters by looking friendly. Just like his blacklivesmatter statement. He is trying to win the left the way trump is trying to win on the right. Different tactics to appeal to different voters. Also fuck the Dems and Repubs. That is all.
The "emails comment" was a lot of things; the most important is that it was the END of Bernies shot at my vote...I'm one those "Lessor of Two Evils" voters that YOU NEED IN ORDER TO WIN!
If Bernie can't take on Hillary, ON AN ISSUE THAT WOULD WIN HIM THE NOMINATION because HILLARY WOULD BE IN JAIL, then how can I trust the fucker to take on Corporate America and all the other evils...A LOTTA money here, a few threats there, and Bernie sends me down the river...just like OBAMA!
Maybe he knew pushing it would get him officially shit canned by the DNC. Kinda like happened anyway this morning. He like Trump is not who the establishment wants in there. Note how even though he is one of the most dominant in the polls he gets 1/23 the MSM coverage. That's enough for me. Definitely the lesser of many evils right now.
Sanders' job is to provide window dressing, so that the coronation of Hitlery doesn't look so much like a coronation. And he knows it, and he's fine with it. If there was any doubt before, after his email comment there is not.
no way is either dims or repugs getting more than 2 terms in a row. That's not the way they roll
Cankles is in it for the spoils of the multi-billion CAMPAIGN.
The fact that she is allowed to still run and the Dims condone it after the violated the letter of the law as SoS with her classified breach should show everybody that this is SHOW.
since 911 we are IN a state of emergency with the Shadow Gov & Deep State running things.
I agree with this. Shadow Government decides and Diebold et al. make it happen. That said, Sanders is clearly legit via the DNC treachery today and I think Trump may be as well. Need more info, right now Trump gets a lot of airtime for someone the establishment doesn't like. I want to see some RNC tricks ala what the DNC just did for proof. He certainly has the rhetoric of someone not toeing the Oligarch's line, but I want a bit more. I was suspicious of Sanders until DNC actions today. Between that and his comparative lack of airtime (1/23rd of Trumps for example and far less than even stragglers like Fiorina and Bush) I know now Sanders is legit. You may not like his policies, but neither do the Oligarchs and at least he is pro-Civil Liberties and anti-war.
Why is the DNC destroying that image then by preventing the Sanders campaign from accessing their own voter data? Makes Hilliary and the DNC look like the authoritarians they are. Nope, Sanders is legit as proven by DNC actions today.
+1000..."If Bernie can't take on Hillary, ON AN ISSUE THAT WOULD WIN HIM THE NOMINATION ..." The dude is scared of his shadow!
You guys don't get it. Among Democrats the email thing is seen as A REPUBLICAN MANUFACTURED ISSUE. Now I know and you know it's not, but lets say you are trying to go up against one of the two most powerful politician families in the US (Clintons) and you need to get MIDDLE OF THE ROAD SHEEP DEMOCRATS to vote for you. A good way to show them you are a good sport is to take that issue off the table during the campaign.
I don't see Trump calling out the Bushes for their involvement in 9/11 so what about that? Wouldn't telling the truth about 9/11 amongst all the liars win his campaign since you know it's the truth and what's good and right? NO! He'd be crucified for it in the media.
Likewise, if Sanders had gone bulldog on Hilliary about the emails, he would have been making a MASSIVE strategic blunder that would have cost him the campaign, I guaran-fucking-tee it.
Unlike many on here I have a great many "Progressive and Democrat" friends and they LOVED when Sanders did that and it won over MULTIPLE Hilliary on the fence vote out of habit voters, because he PROTECTED HILLIARY FROM THE REPUBLICANS. That's literally how they viewed it. As him heroically protecting a woman from a bunch of misogynist assholes. That's what they literally fucking told me.
It's just that fucking simple guys. You don't get it because you are locked in from the Republican/Libertarian/Right Wing point of view. Fuck most of you are unaware of what the DNC did to Bernie Sanders today as is evidenced by the comments on here. If the same thing had happened to Trump it would be all over this board.
You are right about the dems believing in the vast right wing conspiracy. I have heard the same commentary from the few dems I know. The dem team does not care if their candidate is the chupacabra, they will defend it. The republicants are not much better - but at least you saw a large grass roots even if co-opted counter movement in the tea party (tea baggers to you dyed in the wool lockstep dems).
I still think hillary is getting arrested and jeb is going to switch over to the dem party so the dems can rally around him for the win over the Don.
Entertaining for sure - if they are going to throw a circus, might as well be entertained at least until the shit goes down.
There is no way Dems will vote for a Bush. No chance, none. Not even against Trump. I agree about the Tea Party movement starting out as something we really need in this country. Then the RNC/Evangelical nut jobs took it over. I don't mean people with decent christian values and a liberatarian outlook. I mean the theocrat Christians who support Zionist BS.
On the left OWS was similar to the Tea Party regardless of who was funding it and now that's gone too and there is this weird replacement which looks intel controlled to me of campus insanity.
lol - you may be right. I still think he could pull it off - "the republicants have moved away from my values as espoused by the prominance of Trump and Cruz. I believe that the time has come for me to join the party that shares my views" etc etc etc
I think they would vote for jeb if he and the (MSM) media control team turn on the honey.
This had to be quoted, for additional visibility:
But then FireBrander goes on to say so and so won't get his vote!! Dude don't participate. Your vote is a bad joke that gives a veneer of legitimacy to the corrupt charade.
Diebold is gonna see your vote and raise you five.
Otherwise, great comments from the FireBrander.
Left and Right are ONE. Globalists love people like you. Brainwashed morons always calling some ridiculous Right-Wing name. They work TOGETHER. LOLOLOL!!!
80 republicans in the hourse and 26 in the senate were the only patriots who voted against this omnibus bill. All democrats in the house gleefully went along with this piece of shit budget. The conclusion, we need to get rid of all the traitors who voted for this bill. But keep the tea partiers 80 house + 26 senate who refused to go along. And, prominent amoung those who refused to go along and tried to filibuster the bill in the senate were Rand Paul and Ted Cruz who both voted against it (that sack of shit McConnell prevented debate unfortunately). Don't be stupid people, we know which party has pushed social welfare programs into existence, started the FED and the income tax and both world wars, Vietnam, and Korea. Rand is the only patriot running for president and has been warning about this in his newsletters for months.
By the way, anyone naive enough to use real information for any social media account or obamacare or even use such sites is already vulnerable to ID theft etc. Never use a traceable email or real name. Encrypt data and information you don't want to share with thiefs whether public or private.
I agree with most of this re: voting rolls however what you wrote is incorrect some Dems and Bernie Sanders voted against it. For example both Democrat Senators from Oregon. My source is the actual government website that has all accurate voting rolls since forever. The vast majority of Democrats did vote for it, but lets be accurate.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/114-2015/s339
The last part though is kind of a joke. I mean you can do it, but Bonesaw etc. will go through your crypto like a hot knife through butter. Unless you are an absolute god of crypto-security you are dreaming. I have friends in cybersecurity and they basically say, sure you can encrypt stuff and it would take them awhile/forever to crack it, but you move RIGHT to the top of their list of people to watch. Just saying, sometimes its better to hide in plain sight, or just not be fool with what you say (e.g. calls for violence) and be brave enough to otherwise speak your mind.
+1 - loved those names NSA gave to their snooping ops - like "Drop Out Jeep" and "Deity Bounce" ! LOL Fun times !
oldie but goody, StingRay ! for the local Po Po
No debater's feeling were hurt in the passing of this Bill.
Let's get this party started, there is a lot of willing participants....
Don't worry. There will soon be a lot of dead people.
YES..... dead tyrants/snoopers and the people that fund them....
CISA deez NUTS!
Last count, the 3% has swollen to 6%...
Will there be a separate re-education camp for Zero Hedgers?.....& will it have beer and wiskey?
I am not sure I would want to be in the General population, enlisted will be good enough.
A waiting area. There will be no re-education other than the introduction to oblivion.
The GOVT only wastes $$$ on things they think they can change and influence
Don't kid yourself. You post on ZeroHedge, you are on the RED list.
I think they're beginning to get the message a lot of us really don't give a fuck anymore.
Now you're talking Shift for Brains.
What I'm saying is I agree with you.
"Give me liberty or give me death!"
You mean under my phoney name, phoney anonymous email and false IP? I'm so frightened! You vastly overesetimate the technical competence of people who work for government as Snowden showed so easily. Those morons are our best defense for freedom. They don't even know how to encrypt their information properly, as Snowden showed. Everything was plaintext. Also, all the information that was hacked from the Office of Personell by so-call "Chinese hackers" was plaintext. These fascists are incompetent morons. However, Snowden did encrypt his entire HD and the entire computing power of the NSA couldn't extract one plaintext phrase from such a disc even with 14 Billion years to work on it.
yep its right in the back of that cage.. er i mean, room.
Surely a "safe area".
"Will there be a separate re-education camp for Zero Hedgers?.....& will it have beer and wiskey?"
Will we have picks & shovels, with which to dig our Great Escape? ;-)