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Syria Stunner: German Intelligence "Cooperating" With Assad, Berlin May Reopen Embassy In Damascus
John Kerry went to Moscow on Tuesday and was absolutely elated when he stumbled on a Dunkin Donuts:
But America’s top diplomat didn’t travel halfway around the world just to get coffee (we don't think). He also met with Sergei Lavrov and Vladimir Putin to discuss (what else?) Syria. You can get a decent idea of which side prevailed by taking a quick look at the following priceless image captured during a discussion between three of the world’s most powerful government officials:
In short, Kerry ended up conceding once and for all that the fate of Bashar al-Assad has effectively been backburnered for the time being. That’s a painful concession for Washington to make. After all, the whole idea was to topple the Assad government by arming, funding, and training a hodgepodge of Sunni extremists. Now, the US is effectively being forced into a situation where the proxy armies of America’s regional allies will be systematically dismantled only instead of destroying them after Assad fell and a puppet government was installed in Damascus (which was likely to original plan), they’re being routed by Assad himself with the help of the Russians and the Iranians.
Put simply: Assad isn’t going anywhere in the near-term.
On Friday we get still more evidence that the West is begrudgingly coming to terms with the fact that Assad will be sticking around for the foreseeable future, as Bild (citing anonymous sources) says Germany is set to establish an intelligence cell in Damascus. Note the characterization of Assad as a "torturer":
“Germany's spy agency is working again with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's secret service to swap information on Islamist militants,” Reuters writes, citing the German daily.
Reuters continues: “Citing well-informed sources, the mass-circulation newspaper said German foreign intelligence BND agents had been traveling regularly to Damascus for some time for consultations with Syrian colleagues.”
Bild goes on to say that the BND intends to establish a station in Damascus imminently where agents will take up permanent positions. That could pave the way for the reopening on the German embassy, which was shuttered in 2012. As Sputnik reminds us, "diplomatic relations were broken off three years ago when, the then Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle, expelled the Syrian ambassador from Germany [and] the German ambassador to Damascus was withdrawn and the embassy closed for safety reasons."
You'll recall that Germany is gearing up to join the military effort in Syria. Initially, Berlin will send one warship (to "protect" the French carrier), 1,200 troops, and six Tornado ECRs to the country.
The idea behind the BND's cooperation with Damascus is to establish a fixed communication channel for use in the event a German Tornado pilot is downed.
Apparently, Berlin isn't keen on seeing one of its pilots executed in mid-parachute by US-armed FSA fighters or, alternatively, burned alive by one of Qatar's proxy armies.
If Bild's report is accurate, it raises all manner of interesting questions about the West's ongoing military campaign in Syria. If Germany, France, and Britain adopt a more conciliatory stance vis-a-vis Damascus than the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar, Washington will need to figure out how to reconcile its hardline stance towards cooperating with Assad in the war on terror with the divergent approach adopted by America's Western allies.
Ultimately, this is yet more proof of just how senseless all of this is. Hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost and millions of people have been displaced only for the entire debacle to come full circle with Western powers looking to cooperate with the same government they sought to overthrow.
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Sounds far better for the region than the shit show the US "leadership" has been pushing lately.
#WINNING
Germany says f*ck you to Obama, NSA & Neuland.
I woud like to think that, however, the state department runs deep in the murrcas'. Now if Merkel was removed, we may start to see an independent Germany, i'd hope.
Here’s an interesting update from Yemen:
The Houthis have launched two ballistic missiles into Saudi Arabia
The first Qaher-I ballistic missile targeted Khalid bin Abdulaziz air base in Asir province in Southwestern Saudi Arabia.
The second ballistic missile hit the Saudi-led coalition's command headquarters in Sha'ab al-Jen region near Bab al-Mandeb in Ta'iz province. Over 150 coalition servicemen, including 23 Saudi troops, 9 UAE officers and soldiers, seven Moroccan officers and 42 Blackwater troops were killed in the second attack.
Qaher-I is an updated version of a Russian-made surface-to-surface missile.
Looney
The power is slowly but surely will move to the East. All empires fall.
OK, so the new western plan is to identify elements within the now-acceptable non-violent political opposition to Assad who are prepared to sell out their country for a few pieces of fiat currency.
I love that picture with Lavrov staring down fairy.. oops, I meant kerry.
I love that picture with Lavrov staring down fairy.. oops, I meant kerry.
The expression on Putin's face is worthy of study. Very practiced. Perfect.
Even for a snake like Erdogan, watching the western political machinations must surprise him in their bald faced hypocrisy. Imagine, Germany negotiating fly over rights with the same Syrian government it is trying to overthrow. Merkel really is a sack of shit.
A sea change in attitude brought on by a tsunami of of unwanted refugees. Which counterparty profits from oil and ng is not Europe's immediate concern. European peoples losing their culture and way of life for their families are. Why their leaders went along with this madness no one really knows for sure. Most of the population refuses to believe that much corruption exists. Eventually people will figure out who is directly to blame. EU Politicians find themselves sliding down the slippery slope toward the bottom of Maslow's Pyramid and the reality of what they've done and what its broader consequences will mean for their citizenry and them suddenly looms around the next corner. The whole lot of them have gone into full blown CYA mode. I think they need Assad to survive now if they themselves are to survive.
I remember a time when all the major powers backed often brutal puppet states...ahh the good old days. What comes around...comes again.
and 42 Blackwater troops were killed in the second attack.
Silver linings
My guess is that this is all quite simple actually and everyone is getting something they want.
Russia wants to keep Syria for its purposes (buffer, pipeline, etc.)
Okay, we'll stay out of Syria if you help us take down Turkey instead. And yet another chunk of land for greater Israel. As well as destroying another country, creating another wave of refugees for Europe to buckle and collapse underneath. Leaving the grand USA as the winner in the western hemisphere.
What new chunk of land are you talking about for Israel?
where are you getting this info? I'd like to read up on this.
And, I thought Blackwater renamed itself to Xi or some other shit? Did they go back to Blackwater? Anyway, Erik Prince's merc army getting shit-canned is always a good thing.
Academi, last i saw
They are still Academi, but they are under new leadership that comes out of Israel. They stopped trying to pretend to be Americans finally.
ghengis86
The word on the street is that the mercs, whatever their company name is now, are hiring from S America, most Columbian(I suspect ex-FARC).
Ah, those old School of America connections again.
Blackwater dying sounds like a good thing.
Re Looney: The second ballistic missile hit the Saudi-led coalition's command headquarters
Where is this claim coming from. I did not find it on RT. Although RT has not closely followed Yemen lately. But I thing ballistic missiles into Saudi Arabia with 150 dead including 42 Blackwater troops would be front news at RT.
And when did the Saudi's give out this news. Or did the Houthis use their drone fleet to fly over and somehow count all the bodies (that must have then all been laid out for them in the open) to count them.
We keep seeing posts about Saudi (always Saudi) ships being sunk by the Houthis. I have seen claims as high as 23 Saudi warships. Really? How many warships does SA have? And NATO warships are taking part in the blockade of Yemen but they are never fired upon? Or maybe they are talking about small boats with a couple machine guns mounted on them. Still I see little confirmation on RT.
Yesterday the claim was that the US/NATO was humilitated into telling Turkey they should leave Iraq. Today the reality is the report that the US just flew into Iraq and bombed an Iraqi military position killing over 30.
Why don't you go there and check the facts in the field personally ? BTW, no Turks are going to fly over Syria any time soon...
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13940923000602
http://katehon.com/news/yemeni-ballistic-missiles-hit-saudi-arabia
http://whatreallyhappened.com/content/yemeni-ballistic-missiles-hit-saud...
http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2015/12/yemen-update-12142015-yemen-ba...
http://www.saudiarabianews.net/index.php/sid/239483829
poland spring, great links, thank you.
You read one, you read them all.
Si, however, there's an interesting mix of additional content on each site.
Several internet blogs/outlets ran the very same story with no confirmation. Almost or completely word for word.
And please - "beforeitsnews". And then saudiarabianews just references the same "farsnews" site.
Stacy Vassmanat at whatreallyhappened is just a cheerleader.
This smells just like the big false stories that debka released/releases.
This should have made it to someone like RT and it has not. Missiles are one thing but ballistic missiles (not regular rockets) into Saudi with 50 dead blackwater people would be on RT. If something this big is not reported there by tomorrow it is just another Debka type false rumor and being spread the same way.
I am at your mercy on this one. But, the first thing I thought was "how could Russia repay for the bombing of their troops a couple of weeks ago without stoking the flames of nationalism in US?" Kill some American mercs. And some high ranking Saudis while you are at it.
Another thing, for that many high ranking and foreingn personnel to be killed with one missile either they had a sleep over or there was some sort of meeting going on. There had to be some intelligence on WHEN to strike. Maybe Russia?
Just a wild ass guess. But sort of makes sense.
Blocked from upvoting you Looney. That's a first.
"Now if Merkel was removed, we may start to see an independent Germany, i'd hope."
That sounds an awful lot like a request for the 'Merkel dancing in a bikini video'. You're welcome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv-0XjrBVT0
Yes there appears to a real rift opening up in Europe against the US. The Europeans are getting it, better to cosy up to Russia and China than the evil empire.
Such a grandiose statement of a continental power shift is baseless. The article says "German Intelligence" cooperating...does Merkel know? Or did this "leak" just inform her? This is saying more about internal German politics than anything else.
I have a feeling Germany's military and intel services are ready to topple the traitorous Merkel
If by US you mean the Jewish lobby, then yes you are correct. The American people themselves are pushing to break away from the Jewish lobby themselves. Hence the support for Trump.
No, Trump is NOT a break from the Jewish Lobby.
I believe that Trump has been annointed, and that that happened AFTER his 'Muslims dancing' comments.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/12/15/donald-trump-you-are-being...
Trump has far too many Deep State connections to trust. We do not know enough about him to trust him with the power to kill us all, intentionally or unintentionally. We got burned with Obama, who was hiding his background because he was gay, from recent indications. Everyone said we knew practically nothing about him. Ditto Trump : being 'tutored' boy Roy Cohn and a long-time associate of Roger Stone is not the same class of connection as belong to the local church choir.
Not unless you are Larry Silverman : I think the choir at his synagogue wouldn't be so different.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/12/17/avoiding-group-think/
If you think that, then you have swallowed the propaganda - about european sovereigns being completely dominated by the US - whole, sinker and all
we are allies. something Nuland, the NSA and others often forget, in their focus on other things
as TD: "Ultimately, this is yet more proof of just how senseless all of this is. Hundreds of thousands of lives have been lost and millions of people have been displaced only for the entire debacle to come full circle with Western powers looking to cooperate with the same government they sought to overthrow."
again, this applies only if you see "The West" as a monolithic whole, with one purpose and one set of policies. add NATO into the fray, the same
France and Germany are fed up about some... details. and have reasons to collaborate with Russia in one specific country, Syria. including some hope to repatriate Syrian refugees
For some reason, I just don't trust Germany (or France) in all of this. And, definitely not the UK.
We are supposed to be allies.
+1 Mate, I guess this article answers your question about why our porker PM Camoron wanted to start bombing Syria right now.
"if I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd say he wants to make the job of the German Tornados... more difficult and dangerous"
Just like you, I do not believe "The West" is united in this purpose about Syria, let alone the groups vying for position within each country that define "The West". I have a seed of a theory in particular about the USA which is incomplete, that there are at least two power players, one permament, theother transient in government. The permanent one being the civil services, including the various quasi-government power house agencies, think tanks and institutions epitomised by Victoria Nuland's family ties. The transient one being the elected representatives who often go off the script despite the efforts of the civil service handlers. Biden is so obviously a captive VP, tarnished by the neocons who whisked his cokehead son to Ukraine to install him in the boardroom of Burisma Holdings. Then the same neocon-zionists who got him the position are now crucifying him in the zionist print press. Biden made the mistake of condemning Turkey's invasion of Iraq whilst at the same time the Neocon state dept was releasing press statements to back Turkey's "Natural right to defend itself". There is a distinct disconnect between these parties, but as I said, the theory is far from solid.
It certainly explains the deliberate muddying of the Syrian airspace with various oppotunistic forces blaming each other for mistakes and trying to sneak in an attack against perceived opposition. (Also just wanted to say you're welcome mate).
Not really. They love Obama. When Bush was presiden, Europe was very independent and anti-US.
With Obama in charge, they are willing to sell their grandchildren to please the flappy assed faggot.
Neocons like Nuland are mere bit players in this drama:
Dear Zero Hedge readers: The Zionists are not your ultimate enemy; they are mere foils, decoys and scapegoatsFrescobaldi's.
You're taking nonsense from the shill Jones and Roberts? Really? They are both Israel firsters FFS.
Let them name the tribe that is actually behind it, they won't. They never have.
I think you missed the point. Alex Jones and PCR are NWO propagandists. The link shows how their propaganda fits in with the phony East/West conflict.
you should shave your lower mug before posting it on the internet
i would not wonder if you havent taken a shower for the same amont of time relative to the physical length of your beard
if you listen to people like alex jones you must sure have purchased his cofe cups with his name on it
i know its honorable to collect trash fro the internaet and may your girlfriend left you because of it (no it was not because of the baldness).
you need to keep your mental condition under self inspection. i would suggest you to start drinking alcohol as much as possible, so you are no longer able to post shit-links on blogs
if your children will grow up later they will ask "papa? did you post this shit on the intenet so other pupils now make fun of me?"
https://www.blogger.com/profile/04639539618163295310
btw hows the weather in texas? muchacho
It's good to know a nerve has been struck. I added something else to the entry too:
The 3 sandboxes of World War 3now im feeling bad of making fun of you you are a complete idiot thats sad :(
Aww... you m-m-make me happy.
@Veriton,
Surprise, Surprise...From Jesse's
http://www.rferl.org/content/us-congress-to-pass-imf-reforms-raising-status-of-russia-china-/27432701.html
Some of the blind roundupinhyah need the new camera implant or eyedrops.
now look at this you found a retard friend like yourself
iQ35+IQ43 now combined you guys are smarter than apes! thats still better than being smarter than no one
Ad Hom 2 weeks 1 day.
Troll.
Hom? im not a homo dont judge people by refering to yourself
I think that fails because it posits a single controlling conspiracy.
Everything is conspiracy, we are all part of many at once, it is the way people work. The mot common cosnpiracy in the entire world is 2 family members discussing how to convince a third. 2nd most common is two people at work discussing how to convince their boss of something.
Everyody is human, meaning we have the same general limitations : we can recognize so many faces and then things blurr, only keep so mny relationships in mind, then they blur. Politicians have people to remind them, they scale by having people specialize.
So wealth increases the scope of conspiracies, and also diffuses your focus, you have to consider more aspects of everything, things slow.
CFR etc are social organizations, they give everyone attending the chance to comment, but otherwise it must be a school board writ large, with bigger names presenting papers and leading discussions.
Can a single person guide those? Different times, different people with different connections on some range of topics, yes. Can a single group guide those ? Ditto, but it is a very dynamic system, and you have to run fast to stay in one spot.
My read says that the Israeli-Neocons have had a very good run, are largely in control of the US political system. The major symptom of that is the effectiveness of controlling the 9/11 story, preventing it from becoming a political event. But that is slipping badly, all of the recent info about ISIS is a proxy for opposition to thei Israeli-Neocon faction. Soon, a major-enough person is going to dominate a stage big enough that MSM can't stop it without looking even stupider than it does, losing all credibility with everyone. Then the debate and re-analysis so everyone understands, and then Israel and Neocons are in deep shit.
Singularity. Divide by zero. Tipping point.
Political classes are probably not ignorant of this, but can't do anything to prevent it. Note the FF and other distractions are ever-more frequent. I see nothing that will prevent them hanging except a very large FF that produces a Stalinist class of gov.
Donald Trump seems like the guy who is going to head that government for them. Seriously, cast the role, and ask who might fit. Only Donald, I think.
As a conspiracy, very feasible, just an extension of capability they have already shown : complete control of MSM, the GOP at all levels down to who runs in the primary.
In any case, I am going to go back and get exact quotes and timing, but I can see Trump's initial 9/11 comments, which we at zh were hopeful meant he understood and was going to be a bold outside, as his challenge to Israeli-Neocons, and the subsequent great approval from MSM and his "Dancing Muslims" as the minuet of annointing.
Anyone who PREDICTS the return of Christ or claims they know when The End Times begins is an instant sham. Read your Bible much?
Do not trust man or his word.
Excellent , time to send the Refugees back Home
correction..
most of "Syrian refugees" have never set foot in Syria ever...
cos media told you so, is not excuse
Indeed. Assad is Christian and looks a lot more German than Arabic. That's why the Saudi Jihadists hate him.
The puzzle is narrow-minded Israel, who keep deluding themselves with having both Syrian territory as well as peace with its neighbors. Curse that evil Zionist regime, that will not allow peace for its own people, nor peace with its neighbors. If those evil fucks did not have such a stranglehold on US politics and media, the global community could force a rational solution on all parties, and be done with it: Here children, this is yours, and this is yours. Now stay on your own turf, and STFU.
Why did Assad allow Iran through its proxy Hezbollah mercs to dominate Lebanon's power structure and turn the country away from its Christian heritage?
RE: y3maxx = "Germany says f*ck you to Obama, NSA & Neuland."
Why do you say that? The Putin fans grab any small article that supports the interpretation they wish to be true and run with it blindly.
What about the recent reports that France, UK and yes - Germany were talking about donating troops and aircraft to NATO's campaign in Syria?
Yesterday the Putin fans were claiming victory when the US released a public statement that Turkey should leave Iraq. All based upon one bit of talk from a politician (with not actions to help confirm true intent). And this morning we get a story that the US just flew into Iraq and bombed regular Iraqi troops killing more than 30 (see RT online). Words vs actions, but the Putin fans will ignore the actual bombing and dead Iraqi soldiers and instead claim the US now wants Iraq's sovereignity respected.
Perhaps the germans want their people close to the events so they can be prepared to grab a piece of the pie when Syria falls. Or they can get Assad to spend his money with Germany easier as he trys to maintain a country. Perhaps that is all Putin is doing, trying to get a large sections of the western coast.
That is the interpretation I hope is true.
The overlapping version is that BND is very intertwined with the USA's NSA and CIA, recall they didn't bother to tell Merkel that her phones were tapped?
why are you surprised that "east german" merkel is pro Putin?
And again (if Bild is believed) ... the "behind the curtain" Russian-German relationship is stronger than the "on th table" relationship.
The German decision described in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeLu_yyz3tc
Seems to be getting more ... interesting.
I don't have 1:12 to translate George Friedman speak to English, is there a powerpoint summary?
In exchange, I'll offer some pure speculation with no real evidentiary basis (just like George Friedman occasionally does)
1) The BND is lying (if only by omission, since perhaps the BND were interviewed on a Mittwoch instead of a day ending in tag)
2) The BND is perfectly capable of coordinating the occasional Search & Rescue without a formal presence in Damascus
3) The BND is NOT capable of validating all those Syrian passports that it has collected scans of without a formal presence in Damascus
4) Since the shootings in Paris, someone in Berlin has told Mr Spook to "Get to Work!"
I've listened once to a George Friedman presentation and I regret every minute of it. He speaks about Europe... barely. And about wishful thinking, mostly
1) most of the times; 2) yes, but it helps a lot. particularly when things go wrong and the questions in the tag get pointed
3) you still have to find out where to send them back. recently one planeload to Pakistan was sent back... because those Pakistani had "no valid papers"; 4) of course
I would send them into the middle of Africa.
Not really my problem to provide transportation back to their homeland. Only concern is that they leave and not come back.
Jim Willie (in his very charming way) has been talking about this for months...and sho' nuff!!
My thoughts exactly.
Jim Willie is a goofball about some things when he strays from his core area, but he has been 100% right about everything he's said in the last few years about Germany pivoting toward Russia. This is a gigantic FU to the US. If the US was actually surprised by this, it also points to increasing German ability to shield their communications from the NSA.
Germany NEEDS Russian nat gas now more than ever with the closing of coal and nuke plants. As a result, east german born and raised merkel is just going home to her pro-soviet roots. "green is the new red" dontcha know, she has always been pro-russia
This has little to do with Assad. Ties with Syria will prove to be important and must be re-opened, but nobody thinks Assad will (even want to) continue being head of state for long.
He will be talked into leaving quietly.
Bashar Al-Assad is actually the best part of the Assad Regime. just saying
Correct Bashar is decent man, trying to protect Syria
Nurses who worked with him UK told he was gentleman, thoughful and kind....
very unlike others from ME
He never wanted the job firstly, but was called...
+1 for both of you.
I don't disagree.
Since he didn't want the job, he probably won't object to leaving.
It might be best for everyone if he does (except the Syrian people) but as Putin and Assad like to say, that's up to the people.
I have supported him since the very beginning, but the shit has to settle down.
This amounts to US strong-arming, I know, still, sometimes discretion is the better part of valour.
Assad needs to stay for the war. Afterwards he may resign and live in luxury in France after appointing a cousin as president. President of Syria is a stressful job.
Anything and Everything to distract and keep the proles minds off of what really matters: the continuing theft of freedom, country and future
Deployment fail: US special ops forces arrive in Libya, immediately told to leave
https://www.rt.com/usa/326377-usa-special-operations-forces-libya/
By the look of them, Id tell them to leave too. Bunch of rag-tag Blackwater mercinaries lokk-alikes.
Looks like the crew that does my landscaping
yep; replace the weapon with a weed wip and I agree.
Holy Sh*t!
I always imagined "special ops" troops looking like bad-ass Chuck Norris/Arnold Schwarzenegger/Jim Brown types... these guys look like a bunch of beer-drinking derrhunters from upstate NY!!One guy literally has a beer-belly!!
WTF?! I mean...really...W.T.F!!!
That's because you've been indoctrinated by watching actors in movies.
Actual SF dudes look normal and they can blend is, as that is what they are supposed to be able to do.
How many people dress like that in Libya? Just curious.
About 20...but only for a very short time in mid December.
I get that Styles...so they only thing that needs to be in shape is their trigger fingers? (I GET they are qualified and I appreciate their service..although I'd rather they were stationed on America's border rather than Libya's)
That's what sort of bothers about that picture. I see too much plaid and artificial fibers...
Those outfits would be appropriate for Jade Helm than North Africa.
It's like Obama let the queer rednecks out of the closet and then there goes the neighborhood. At least the metrosexual guys had the taste/common sense for neutral earthtones and natural fibers...
"That's what sort of bothers about that picture. I see too much plaid and artificial fibers..."
Almost all clothing companies make plaid during the winter, as well as selling 'artificial fibers' whatever that means.
Quicksilver surfing sells plaid. It's hip now.
And you only see what your brain wants your eyes to see.
A "/humor" tag would really destroy the irony of that deadpan cerebral and sophomoric juxtaposition. What you posted is irrelevant, even before the water is wet insight (of course my eyes see what my brain wants them to).
It's a sunny lower 60's mid afternoon in Libya... what's wrong with this picture?
There is often more than one way to acceptably do something, and there invariably countless unacceptable ways of doing the same. If a single one of those guys was in a short sleeved Quicksilver or (God forbid) Ranger Up shirt I would don a tinfoil codpiece, grab a bull horn and shout HOAX! ... FALSE FLAG! ... CRISIS ACTOR ALERT! all over Tyler's website.
My issue is more subtle... of the 14 guys in the picture who I can discern at least part of what they are wearing- between 7-9 (50%-64%) demonstrate at best poor judgment. JASOC should go back to requiring boots made of newspaper, straight penises, and Klan membership if they want to actually win. I don't think even 511 Tacticool offers an NFPA flame resistant flannel shirt/jacket. As to the two clean shaven designated douches in the front without slung rifles- their jackets reek of petroleum byproducts (as does much of the flannel sold today). If someone wants to play soldier in a firefight, they need to make sure they COVER UP and do so with something that DOES NOT MELT in their hands. If that is too high a bar, they should switch to a unit where Uncle Sam selects their clothing for them, or get out of the kitchen, because they cannot stand the heat.
"That's because you've been indoctrinated by watching actors in movies.
"
All the special forces guys I have ever met and it's over 50, are white guys.
And they are ougher than actors in holy weird.
Jeeze this site comments has gone mostly hysterical.
Cannot tell if it is men or women posting any longer .
Reality rape!
Hey stupid!
They are wearing body armor. They aren't fat. These guys aren't your local national guard once-a-monthly-pay-for-college FSA idiots. They could kill any z-hedge shut-in round squirrel.
I swear people are getting dumber as we cross the event horizon of idocracy and the full effects of stupid take over reins of the age of Aquarius.
"They could kill any z-hedge shut-in round squirrel."
Please reference the 'Hollywood' quote from Mr. Nid above...
SF has a nasty reputation as fat old dudes among those who don't buy SF's particular brand of bullshit.
I thought the same on first glance. I actually back clicked and then went back and looked at the picture. Look at the size of their thighs. Also look at their faces, no extra fat, very lean. Look at their forearms. Do not fool yourself these guys are very fit. Also, look how many layers of clothes they have on. Very deceptive.
Lol where have we seen this before?
"German intelligence gets tired of lies, starts fighting the Joo World Order" (sorry, I mean Zion)
The usa puppet country can establish a foothold there, before those pesky russians completely take control. But, why would assad allow this? This hole gets deeper and deeper.
Do a little blitzkrieg in Syria Germany.. oh and close the fucking borders. Thanks, Europe.
Highly unlikely. In the German Air Farce, only about 30% of its aircraft (of all types) are combat capable.
Shit show indeed! Ketchup boy and our entire .gov is a disgrace! Freakin gets a woody over dunkin donuts! WTF?
END THE FED!
Who is isolated now? So who are the real terrorists responsible for killing and displacing millions all in the name of regime change? Just so Uncle Satan can get it's hands on the prize - gas pipeline to Euro from Qatar through Syria.
Can it be any more obvious? These fuckers in Wasington really are untouchable and yet out of touch.
assad is cooperationg with homosexuals again? shame on you assad. thats a sign of weakness (and european lust).
i know german jews will stick their finger into syrians peoples eyes now. its russias fault for letting in this happen. russia agreed with merkel, so germany can steal 1 million syrian idiots per year. thats an international crime.
The whole mess got sidetracked. the goal was to
"[...foment the Third World War by] taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other..."
-Albert Pike
But somehow, this got all bolloxed up. It is better at this point to wipe the slate clean and start over.
Hey stupid. Nothing is 'bolloxed' up except maybe your brain.
We are at the buildup of world war.
It hasn't been completed yet.
Vote trump tho. He won't cause world war three. Nor will any of the other presidential candidates.(:sarc)
either Merkel didn't get the memo from langley/mossad or the revolt against her (him?) is going public
The cure (ISIS) .... was worse .... than the disease (Assad) ? Putin backs Trump .... barenakedislam.com 12/17/2015 ?
And the wahhabbi's officially go under the bus......... but unofficially?????????
Germany [rightly] sees Assad as the only power in the region fighting tooth and nail against ISIS and Al-Qaida and working with the Kurds.As brutal as he is, Assad is only brutal towards those who behead innocents, enslave girls and make how to videos of it.
The only way to keep these MF'rs under control is through ruthless force, I'm guessing Assad doesn't do it for sport.
For a country that nuked 2 cities full of women and children , and now droning thousands of people , we sure have some balls giving humanitarian lectures .
Can you imagine if it was Russia that pulled the crap we did in the last 10 years?
So, it is not really about who is on which side, only that there be conflict.
If anyone has any misconception that this is anything other than a contrived and manipulated environment with everyone, including Putin, collaborating at the top, then they just have not been paying attention.
It is a choreographed play, complete with sound stages, designed to trick the masses into doing what those at the top want... which is most likely fight each other and "die".
So true Grumps.
But alas, most people only seem to see what they want to believe.
I see left tards who worshiped Obama....now worship Trump.
Of course Hilary will get the team vagina vote en mass.
Maybe that's why people die in wars?
They are stupid enough to fight in them?
The US can't find ISIS oil trucks but it can find anti-ISIS forces. A while ago, a Syrian army base was bombed killing several Syrian army forces. Now this:
At least 30 Iraqi soldeirs were killed and 20 others injured in US air strike, Hakim al-Zamili, the head of Iraqi parliament's Security and Defense Committee said.
"Thirty soldiers from the Iraqi Army's 55 brigade were killed and 20 were injured in a US airstrike on the town of al-Naimiya in the al-Fallujah province," al-Zamili's statement obtained by Sputnik reads.
The politician stated that he demanded "the [Iraqi] prime minister to conduct an investigation into the airstrike against the 55 brigade, which had previously had huge success in the fight against Daesh terrorists."
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151218/1031964714/iraq-us-airstrike-...
thanks for the link, howdy doody. comforting to know we're still in foreplay mode. /s
Kerry smiling at Dunkin Donuts? Goes to show what he knows.
Shoulda gone to Tim Horton's, if he wanted quality donuts and coffee. Eh.
The Neo-con ship's mantra to which Obama plays along because of the past accumulation of shit in Iraq-- and subsequent Hillary plays in Syria (on which Obama put his foot down by not blowing up Assad)--as in Libya--which he applauded then--now not so much-- has now put US diplomacy in a very hard place.
How do you say you will take out ISIS all the while you shake hands with ISIS's "friends" : Erdogan and Saud's Sunni 'hush hush' Nusra/AlQaeda connections?
How do you sting Putin in Ukraine when he outplays you in Syrac?
Some conundrum. Nuland and Hillary (the demo hawks) + the GOP hawks have put "dove" Obama+ Kerry in the mulberry bush.
So he plays ringa ringa roses on the glacier and eats salmon to tout "climate change"; the same game he torpedoed in Copenhagen 2009, the same game he now tax promotes with Elon Musk.
When 40% of US electrical production is coal based the road to decarbonization is as long as Pinocchio's nose!
Some square dance he dances and prances all the while saying Iran is the future to ME stability; all the while saying Israel is the US's main friend in ME.
When one thing and its opposite are compatible you know that US foreign policy is leaving a boulevard open for Putin and China to take over the ME when it comes to confront the US on Shia/Sunni divide and Shale rivalry based on "for us or against us" type reverse energy matrix logic.
Saud can bring down the $ hegemony faster than Putin!
Or Obama can bring down the Saudi regime by letting Oil be a "hawg wallowing in the dirty trough" market.
It cuts both ways and its a deadly game on the financial/energy/military triple play Titanic.
Some conundrum: friend and foe both hate your guts!
As long as Saudi Arabia loses, then the world will be a better place. Fuck those semitic fuckers.
it's nice to see the Western Alliance "hanging tough". NATO is becoming very fractured.
No, 'western alliance' is an extension of American power and thus pulls power from the periphery. That can't be good for the world. We need to be fragmenting power everywhere, devolving political power.
Evolution is a de-centralized process. The fix the world is in is because power was so concentrated, and therefore had so little mental effort put into guiding it : the elites are relatively few and wholly ignorant as compared to the rest of us, the only ones who can be in contact with the environment the elites can't even imagine, but which their laws must fit.
They have converted our world to one of human-designed institutions, always inferior to bottm-up evolved institutions and laws. Common law is superior to Napoleonic code and administrative law, inherently so, whatever they try to tell us.
Human-designed components of our world are all failing. The more abstract, like the Fed, the newer, like the welfare systems, or the more 'modern' like the public schools or military, the worse they are failing.
Stand by for the Berlin false flag in 5....4....3....2...
Who told the Germans they could make decisions independently of Washington? Schmucks....
Won't happen. It's over except for the cleanup. Those that are extra-special will be wished away to Libya or Tunisia. They rest, well, the meat grinder.
Jim Willie's been saying eventually Germany will join the Eastern alliance
It only makes sense. If you take a serious look at Russian military capability and compare it to the (non-existant) US military capability, any idiot could ascertain that they are far better off joining a pan-asian block. Washington is put back in it's place. Perhaps now they will start to get serious about cleaning house there.
Silk Road
otherwise, Germony and Russia never should have fought
I think that's it. Germany is looking at the long term. Sanctions won't last long, but that Silk Road is a treasure not to pass up.
I forgot about Syria being part of the CIA rendition club once upon a time. Maybe that's what the "these tortures" refers to.
an interview Dutch state media held (on 17-12-2015) with the president of Syria Bashar al-Assad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjM_YZp6Kow
I'm not sure this is that much of a stunner. Let's review what Putin got, and what he needed to get. 1. The US has pulled their F-15's out of Incirlik. 2. The IMF declared the Ukraining debt sovereign (after claiming it wasn't). 3. The US told Turkey to get its troops out and when they refused, ISIS was directed to attack them, giving them extra impetus. 4. Kerry declared, on behalf of the Obama administration that Assad stays. 5. One of the rats behind the rogue insurrection in the Pentagon was outed. 6. The Germans are re-establishing diplomatic relatins (of course BILD is going to portray it as counter their interests when in fact it is pro their interests). 7. Putin told Erdogan that the game is over now. He can either leave of his own free will over be overthrown. 8. The special forces the US tried to insert into Libya were told to go home, and they did. 9. Gold is being allowed to rise again after the failed Fed intervention
So all in all this points to a serious de-escaltion of tensions. Now the next question is, who is next? Netanyahu, Salman, his son or ? Eventually Cameron will have to bite the bullet as well. What a bunch of lying, thieving arsholes. Everytime there is a right wing government, anywhere, we get this kind of crap. They should be outlawed.
"Assad the torturer". Riiiiight.
More Zio-scum propaganda and lies. All designed to eliminate Hezbollah's backers (Syria and Iran), so that they can grab southern Jordan and southern Syria -- for land and water for its zealot, land-stealing settlers.
The US regimes (one after another) are sooooo effin dumb and soooo effin beholden to these ZioCons, that it's just sickening. Someone needs to tell them to FOAD, if they won't live in peace. And spare us your Zio-lies about "wanting peace". For if they did, they'd leave the West Bank and Gaza alone, and let the world community recognize them as sovereign states. Sons of Lucifer, is what everyone of those ZioCons are (figuratively speaking, given that I don't subscribe to their theist myths and lore).
Torture? Torture? Doesn’t everybody torture these days? The CeyeA are master tortureists. They seem to be proud of it too, the scumballs.
Those same torturing scumballs probably had their very own paid instigator insurgent assets in Syria leaned on and they rolled. … What comes around goes around.
The double standard disconnect is mind-boggling.
Putin is eating the west’s lunch in the integrity and credibility departments.
I see serious cracks developing in the Zio chokehold grip on the narrative.
Good, it’s about time.
~ DC
Yes, I think so, and that accelerating loss of power makes this a very dangerous time.
If our Israeli-Neocons lose, they hang. IF peace arrives, they hang. The stakes are very high for them, 9/11 was a very large gamble, if even one person had started shouting False Flag from the first moments, their coverup might well have failed. They prevented the information from crystalizing in that direction by the many in-retrospect obvious hints they dropped in, the passport, the guy who told the cameras how the collapse happened, etc. But they must have been nervous.
In any case, these people are motivated to take risk, losing is not an option, and they use FFs as tool as naturally as we breath, and they still have immense institutional power, however they are using in the court of public opinion.
We aren't home until they all hang and we clean out this society of the corruption and 'mixed loyalties'. A 2nd passport should certainly disqualify anybody from national politics or government service.
I full agree with your points, Demdere.
Now is not the time to slack off of any of the pressure for truth and justice.
Of course, abide in mind that the perps are a powerful behind the scenes force. … They will kill, incarcerate, intimidate and buy off as many of the critical thinkers as they can. I’ve seen people fold under the pressure. People with families mostly. Families are a vulnerable point for most of us. Time to watch each other’s backs and take turns stepping forward to challenge the beast.
Yes, dangerous times cometh cornering the dragon.
But I KNOW it can be slain. ……. Keep the faith bro (or sis).
Oh and yep the dual citizenship thing is off the scale FUBAR. The fact that anything like that was even legal slid right by me for years.
~ DC
Well at one stage he did allow rendition flights to land in Syria, was he aware of what they were up to? He certainly wanted to be part of the "club".
They want southern Lebanon to the sweet waters of the Litani. Only the "terrorists" Hezbollah stands in their way. Destroy Syria and Iran, you cripple Hezbollah.
When I look at the "stare down" picture I will always wonder what Putin and Lavrov gave Kerry to read. He sure came out of there a changed man.
What Kerry read was written by S400s placed along the Syria/Turkey border. Time for a little Realpolitik.
Oh yeah?...
Tell this great news to the Iraqi government! i'm sure German intelligence will be helping the Russians in Iraq the same way they are courting them in Syria?... Right???...
Can't you just see the little punk ass bitch Kerry in Moscow munching on that fry cake with the Dunken Donut coffee telling Lavrov and Putin that they are in the process of easing tensions in Iraq and systematically pulling out groound forces when this event occured.
Just like the little goy bitches they are to the Zionist factory they will do whatever they are told because they don't like losing their "terror investment" no matter how many lives get slaughtered!
Everybody would be a lot better of when we remove Hussein Obummer and his ZioCon clowns as well as Merkel and Camaron.
Funnily enough, Hussein Obummer is the closest thing you'll get for an ally in the cracker house. Nutjob McCain would have started WW3 years ago, or at least tried to. Bush W the Younger of course got the ball rolling pretty well, good thing Russia was still willing to look the other way back then. Hussein Obummer on the other hand has reined in the military by removing hotheads and other dangerous individuals and practices considerable restraint in international politics. A truly great president put in a difficult position. May the Great Central Library of the Universe help us all after Hussein Obummer's replacement moves in.
Sure, Obama is better than Bush that killed 1.5 million Iraqis. Obama only killed a million.
"[...] good thing Russia was still willing to look the other way back then"
A clever move by Putin. The US & UK did all the expensive heavy lifting in Iraq and ended up destroying the country and killing vast numbers.
Today, Iraq wants to hitch its wagon to the Russian roadshow and kick-out Western military forces.
I give you credit. Your hypothesis is interesting and far more plausible than all the 'conspiracy' stuff posted here.
WW3 is guaranteed with any of the presidential candidates running. All of them owned and operated by Hell Aviv
Yeah - remember how wonderful he is when 20,000 muslims and other illegals get dumped in your neighborhood.
O, the Neo cons and Neo Libs are all the same.
If you want to thank anyone - thank Putin and the Russians for being real men not sissies cheering their Trayvon thug ball players, watching Star Wars and updating their FaceBook page.
Thank Assad, the Syrian Army and Syrian people for having the courage to stand up to evil. Also thank Hezbollah for fighting for Syria and the Syrian people including Syrian Christians,
http://www.christianpost.com/news/they-accept-us-as-we-are-christians-jo...
The Iran-backed Shiite Muslim militant group Hezbollah, classified for many years by U.S. Intelligence as a terrorist organization, is training Christians to fight ISIS in Lebanon and the Middle Eastern believers say their new and unlikely allies "accept us as we are."
I'd trust Volkswagon lots more than I'd trust the Polish-Jew and former Stazi member and German flag hating Merkel. Suddenly the EU is playing anti-imperialist kissey face while going in for the kill! Bad news for Assad and his people I'm afraid. His days are numbered!
"Suddenly the EU is playing anti-imperialist kissey face while going in for the kill! Bad news for Assad and his people I'm afraid."
Are you thinking that Germany may be planning to send in some suicide bombers to assassinate Assad or summat like that?
For all I know Assad might be complicit & sympathetic to the evil EU NWO megalomania. All I do know is this stinks to high heaven! If Germany moves in his reign is over if its not already! I'd bet new borders have already been drawn & new management has been installed!
You may well be right, although it looks to me like Germany and France before, may be p1ssed off with being vassals of the State Dept and have seen their economies suffer since sanctions against Russia were mandated.
They've finally realised that the Syria thingy was mostly about Anglo-American Empire hegemony and M/E despotic rule but see their own futures looking East to Russia and Asia. Where else is Germany to sell VWs which Washington has done its best to destroy?
We'll know what's happening if/when Germany goes soft on Russian sanctions. That will be a key break point with Washington.
Sounds like you are more in-tune than I & I hope u are right! I'm not so sure economics is on the top of the list for most of those decrepit EU geo-politicians.The poor souls in Syria & much of the middle east have suffered enough! I have very little (none) sympathy for any of the visionary established economies who have created or enabled much of this chaos! I trust none of them!
Your scepticism is well placed. ...
Turkey has just moved a military base into Qatar! All 'assets' are to be protected! Resource ownership & game over! North bound pipeline construction to commence asap! Assad can go back to Ophthalmology while Syria minus its 6m refugees & 250k dead can go back to selling carpets (minus 20% of their lands that have now gone to the tribe!)!
The Qatari pipeline is/was planned to go across northern Saudi Arabia, turn right across Jordan, across Syria and into Turkey and onwards.
"map showing iran vs qatar proposed pipeline routes"
As I understand, you are suggesting that this Turkish military base in Qatar is to provide protection for the Qatar pipeline construction.
But for that to happen, it will need Assad to go. With Russia and Iran on site to protect the Assad.gov, I cannot see that happening any time soon and they will not allow any such construction.
Iran wants to build its own pipeline which is planned to go across Iraq way south of Mosul and even Baghdad and into Syria, bypassing Turkey altogether.
Then again, things are changing in that region almost weekly.
Do not know how true this is.
http://www.usapoliticstoday.com/breaking-putin-tells-army-to-prepare-for...
That article's 2 weeks old, although it was pretty accurate at the time of publication.
Since then, Kerry has rolled over and virtually conceded that Assad can stay in office whilst Germany is about to open an intel-sharing office in Damascus to liaise with Assad's own intel agency. Speculation is that Germany may reopen its Embassy in Damascus at some time (see this ZH article).
Today, the clock has been turned back a few minutes.
Next week? Who knows.