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When All Else Fails, Erdogan Calls Israel
Submitted by Shoshana Bryen via The Gatestone Institute,
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Erdogan came to office in 2003 with a policy of "zero problems with neighbors," but has since led Turkey to problems with most, if not all, of them.
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Turkey's foreign policy choices and current crises have combined to make Erdogan reach out to Israel for help.
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Israel has weighed the price and found it acceptable: Israel will pay Turkey $20 million; Turkey will expel the Hamas leadership from Istanbul and will buy Israeli gas.
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The restoration of relations with Israel is less a political reconciliation than an admission of the utter bankruptcy of Turkey's last five years of diplomatic endeavor.
The announcement of the restoration of Israel-Turkish relations should be seen in the context of Turkey having nowhere else to go.
Turkey's relations with Israel have been strained, to put it mildly, since 2010 when, through a non-profit organization, Turkey funded the 2010 Gaza Flotilla aimed at breaking the Israeli-Egyptian blockade of the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.
After a bloody confrontation, which ended in the deaths of nine Turks, Turkey demanded that Israel be tried in the International Criminal Court (ICC) and subjected to UN sanction. The ICC ruled that Israel's actions did not constitute war crimes. In addition, the UN's Palmer Commission concluded that the blockade of Gaza was legal, and that the IDF commandos who boarded the Mavi Marmara ship had faced "organized and violent resistance from a group of passengers," and were therefore required to use force for their own protection. The commission, however, did label the commandos' force "excessive and unreasonable."
Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan had already in the past show hostility towards Israel. Already in 2009, then Prime Minister Erdogan denounced Israel's President Shimon Peres publicly at the Davos World Economic Forum. "When it comes to killing, you know very well how to kill. You know very well how to kill." When Hamas was thrown out of Damascus, Erdogan invited Hamas leaders Khaled Mashaal and Ismail Haniyeh to put the terrorist organization's "West Bank and Jerusalem Headquarters" in Istanbul.
Speaking at the Paris rally in January 2015, after the murderous attack on the Charlie Hebdo offices and the terrorist murder of four Jews in a kosher supermarket, Turkey's Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said, "Just as the massacre in Paris committed by terrorists is a crime against humanity, Netanyahu... has committed crimes against humanity." Erdogan, speaking in Ankara, said he could "hardly understand how he (Netanyahu) dared to go" to the march in the French capital. Just last month, Davutoglu told an audience, "Israel kneels down to us."
Not exactly.
Turkey's foreign policy choices and current crises have combined to make Erdogan reach out to Israel for help. Erdogan came to office as Prime Minister in 2003 with a policy of "zero problems with neighbors," but has since led Turkey to problems with most, if not all, of them. Alon Liel, former Director General of the Israeli Foreign Ministry said, "Turkey didn't do very well in the last five years in the region. Turkey needs friends."
That is an understatement.
Turkey helped Iran evade international sanctions, but has since fallen out with the Islamic Republic of Iran over its support of Syria's Bashar Assad. A Muslim Brotherhood supporter, Erdogan was close to Egypt's former President, Muslim Brotherhood member Mohamed Morsi, and has been an outspoken adversary of President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi. Turkey was and remains a conduit for arms and money for various parties to the Syrian civil war. The U.S. has demanded that Erdogan seal Turkey's border with Syria, which he has not done. Turkey also has bombed Kurdish fighters; deployed its forces to Iraqi territory and declined to remove them; and sold ISIS oil on the black market. There are allegations that the Turkish government knew sarin gas was transferred to ISIS across Turkish territory. In November, Turkey shot down a Russian military jet, in the biggest move down the current slide of Turkish-Russian relations, which began when Vladimir Putin stepped in to prevent the collapse of Syria. [This is on top of historical animosity between Turkey, the successor to Muslim Ottoman rule, and Russia, the self-proclaimed defender of the Christian Orthodox Church.]
Russia, furious at the downing of its plane, instituted a series of economic sanctions against Turkey, the most important of which is suspension of the TurkStream project, designed to boost Russian gas exports to Turkey. Turkey is the second-largest importer of Russian gas, after Germany.
As a corrective to all of Turkey's "problems with neighbors," Erdogan raised the possibility of renewed relations with Israel -- which is currently finalizing the mechanism for developing large offshore natural gas fields. Erdogan told Turkish media last week that normalization of ties with Israel would have benefits for Turkey. Insisting that Israel must still end the blockade of Gaza (not happening), apologize, and pay reparations for the flotilla, Erdogan nevertheless made clear his desire for progress -- or at least for Israeli gas.
 Which way will Turkish President Erdogan go on Israel? |
It's not as if Turkish-Israel relations were ever entirely severed. Since the flotilla confrontation, Turkey-Israel trade doubled in the past five years, to $5.6 billion. While arms deals signed prior to 2010 have been put on hold, trade in civilian chemicals, agricultural products, and manufactured goods has increased. And, in one of those "only in the Middle East" stories, Turkish businesses have been shipping goods to Israel by sea, then trucking them across the country to Jordan and beyond, in order to avoid having to ship overland through Syria.
The basis for increased trade, including gas sales, is there, and Israel has weighed the price and found it acceptable. Israel will pay Turkey $20 million; Turkey will expel the Hamas leadership from Istanbul and will purchase Israeli gas.
After entering office in 2003, Erdogan offered Turkey as a model for democratic governance in a Muslim country. President Obama called him one of the foreign leaders with whom he was most comfortable. But Turkey's was always a double game. The restoration of relations with Israel is less a political reconciliation than an admission of the utter bankruptcy of Turkey's last five years of diplomatic endeavor.
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Don't worry, it's all kosher.
The announcement of the restoration of Israel-Turkish relations should be seen in the context of Turkey having nowhere else to go.
I believe the reverse is true with Israel having no where else to go either.
$20MM? Is that a typo? Erdogan must really need some jack.
The enemy of my enemy is my trading partner...
ISIS-supporters stand shoulder to shoulder as their pet project is shredded in Syria.
So, Turkey is going to receive a $20M transfer of funds into one of thier national accounts (presumably) from Israel...for oustting a regional party (Hamas) from their capital region and, moreover, for having agreed to contracting future trade agreements over LNG.
Okay, this is truly absurd. This hardly seems to be a legal endeavor; it is guaranteed to upset Hamas (and all other regional allies), thus stirring violence that the State can crack down upon and further restrict social freedoms; moreover, though, this is tantamount in its ability to disturb me as has the recent and blatant effort by the POTUS et al. to include the CISA doctrine in the fiscal omnibus.
I will never forget these individuals, their efforts to engineer a specialized geo-political board, and I will tell the truth about their history to those who have had to suffer poor history through school.
This:
The basis for increased trade, including gas sales, is there, and Israel has weighed the price and found it acceptable. Israel will pay Turkey $20 million; Turkey will expel the Hamas leadership from Istanbul and will purchase Israeli gas.
So does this mean that the 'dual passport' crew can now run off & hide on Mt. Ararat?
"Naw, the Jews are innocent Goy, it's just your anti-Semitism that is making you think that we aren't the chosen ones. Let us purge you of that delusion with some fresh GMO and great stock tips. Trust me."
We now have the trifecta of ISIS-supporters standing together. Erdogan is going to Saui Arabia next to see King Salman Abdul Aziz.
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/...
Tukey, Israel and Saudi Arabia - united by love for ISIS.
I'm thinking this is about Turkey wanting to provoke Moscow. Now they'll have a reason to fly near the Russian controled airspace over Syria on the way to Tel Aviv... and "accidentally" enter the no-go zone.
Another chance for an Archduke Ferdinand moment!
Undoubtedly, toady---I just hope that when it does occur, the Ferdinandization of the world's media, that is, the moment the proverbial shot is cast, that those who have stayed abreast of the developing situation (some, but not all users within this neo-ZH epoch) do not forget to be intelligent about disseminating what they know to be accoutable and true.
That was the figleaf to make it acceptable to Turks who don't like the fact that Israel killed 9 of their citizens. Bloodgeld.
The Khazar Jews are a Turkic tribe. The people who conquered the byzantines and rule Turkey today are basically the same tribe as those baby-blood sucking juws (http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.644138)
This is why the blood suckers in U.S/U.K will always back Turkey against the eastern orthodox Christian empire. If that empire gets too powerful, well there are plenty of blood suckers waiting for Putin to either die or be offered a deal with the devil. There is nothing the Khazars detest more than a white easter-orthodox christian. (Must be something to do with the fact that they expelled the original jews from Israel).That is why Turkey has historically been let loose over eastern christian countries - serving 2 purposes, 1 to subjagate the christian threat and 2 to portray islam as a threat to christian europe to establish a dialectical religious conflict. Perhaps old Mo was a khazar and created Islam to split the Christians to take the heat off the jews. who knows?
The bolshevik revolution was a juden takeover of Russia who's victims in the Gulag were orthodox christians. You think the Muzzas have it bad? At least we don't mind dying. You fuckers are better off marying some jew women to get a piece of the pie. Everyone else will be turned brown thru immigration and then severely fucked. Who says Juden don't believe in white supremacy? They fucking do. They're after you and have assimilated your best and made them 'jewish'. Before they eject you, they will ensure you are racially 'weakened'.
They're a clever bunch of bastards, truth be told. 2800 goyim slaves for EVERY Israeli
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa what have I kept saying. Fuckin Joo World Order is driving this show.
You beat me to it; I thought 'that makes two of them".
It's not long ago that Turkey wanted to buy Chinese missiles and was reprimanded by NATO. They joined the low rank in the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) and wanted to be on the path to full membership. When told that this was not possible while being a NATO member, they were quite dismissive of NATO. They were also dismissive of EU membership. Now it's buddies again. Erdogan + Assad, google that, they were quite friendly for a while, buddies like the French President Chirac and Saddam Hussein.
In that region they change their attitudes and allegiances like the weather. Anybody who takes them seriously will be burned.
The jew has burnt a lot of bridges over the years due to their greed and their utter disdain for the non-jew portions of humanity.
Israel has nukes, more advanced everything, secure water and exports food, the entire planet could go up in smoke and they'd be fine, they don't need Turkey, but Turkey needs their _________ exports.
How they will be fine when everything go smoke ? And nope they don't have advanced 'everything'. Keep your hasbara trolling with ya douche.
Actually, he is right. And no he is not Hasbara. Hasbara work hard to show Israel as a weak victim.
Israel is in full control of the world. The world has been dancing to their tune for centuries. They are very close to a full open takeover of the world. They did this once before and it turned out very bad for the host nation.
Das Juden are coming. The Palestinian plight is just a template for what the world will experience. Your arrogance and underestimation of the juden is what they have relied on for centuries.
More importantly, Isreal will start the war Turkey could not seem to get going with Russia.
Rewind 100 years.
Mustafa Kemal 'Ataturk'
Born in Salonica. "Due to the sizeable minority of Jews in Selanik during the Ottoman period, many of Atatürk's Islamist opponents have eagerly claimed that he may have Dönme ancestors"
"he attended the ?emsi Efendi School (a private school with a more secular curriculum) at the direction of his father" More correctly, a JEWISH Effendi school.
Many of the Young Turks were crypto-Jews. So co-operation between Turkish and Israeli (and Saudi) leaders should never be seen as 'surprising'. Say one thing, do another.
From the same wiki-source: "There are also some suggestions about the possibility of his (Ataturk's) Slavic origin, based on his light skin complexion, blond hair and blue eyes.[24][25][26]".
The most secret part of Ataturk's life is his French (masonic & Zionist) connection, having in mind he never went to Sorbonne. However, if you consider Ali Fethi Okyar (Bey), educated in Paris and later serving as Turkish PM, was Ataturk's best friend and Zionist counselor, the entanglement is revealed...
By the way, who is B'nai Brith?
Fuck there are a lot of idiots on this site. Yes Atatürk was a crypto jew (lol). I'm going to trust the islamists on this one because they are truly rational thinkers.
Kike.
All we need now is the Zionist lizards and there bitchez [jews-israel] to bomb Iran's nuke inrichment plants and we can party like its the end of the world.
Turkey have become the new 'useful idiots' enlisted to help push the agenda forward in the middle east. Maybe Erdogan can ask Israel how come they are never targeted by ISIS, or mentioned in their threats against 'non believers'! (rhetorical question)
The agenda rolls on......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/as-events-spiral-ou...
I bet you all didn't know this:
On November 10, 1975, the General Assembly of United Nations passed Resolution 3379, which declared Zionism a form of racism.
This was in the "good old days" when theft and murder was considered wrong...
there goes the pertodollar.
Bitchez attract bitchez.
Birds of a feather.... is I believe the correct expression but I like your version as well.
May I live long enough to see these two fiends meet some form of justice whether it be human or divine.
Turkish-ISIL Oil Trade: The Roles Of The Kurdistan Regional Government, Britain, And Israel (Part III)
http://thenewsdoctors.com/turkish-isil-oil-trade-the-roles-of-the-kurdistan-regional-government-britain-and-israel-part-iii/
One of the military bases established by Turkey following the shoot-down of the Su-24 was located very close to a Hunt Oil drilling site. Hunt Oil is a privately owned oil corporation. It also has its finger in the pie in Yemen.
http://www.huntoil.com/bio-suellentrop-s.aspx
I thought that when all else fails, Erdogan ships sarin to Syria for a false-flag attack
No one is a bigger liar than war-criminal Erdogan
Turkey supplied the sarin that killed over 1300 Syrians in Ghouta to try to get the Nobel Prize Winner to bomb Assad into oblivion
Seymour Hersh Links Turkey to Benghazi, Syria and Sarin
The assessment of the Defense Intelligence Agency is that the sarin was supplied by Turkey to elements in Ghouta with the intent of “push[ing] Obama over the red line.” Intercepted transmissions from Turkish operators in the aftermath of the attack are jubilant, and the success of their covert mission must have seemed well in hand. Obama’s implicit call to war in the coming month was proof of that.
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/05/06/seymour-hersh-links-turke...
Well you can knock me over with a feather! Who wudda guessed our 'tribal' buddies are front & center in this middle east humanitarian catastrophe? I suppose there are a few warm carcasses left to pick over!
Are we creating a market for Israel's gas (or is it the Palestinians gas) during a huge global glut? Running Russia off and in comes Israel....
That would be nice for them.
That is the plan - Israel is to replace Russia as primary energy supplier. That will teach the Europeans to whine about Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.
Thats not the plan. To begin with the fields are quite small and better suited to regional consumption. The russian deposits dwarf anything out of the east mediterranean by 2 orders of magnitude.
You can find small deposits of gas an oil in any country.
Call it palestinian gas if you like the warmth but payments must go to Israel.
Looks like everybuddy is happy now ....'cept Qatar who just had their trillion dollar nat gaz deposit scooped from under them! Oh yeah, flattened Syrian minus their 250k citizens & 6m plus refugees must be a little ticked off!
Plus the over 1,000,000 injured and maimed Syrians
Heyyy do the math ... a small price for a trillion dollar resource!
Financial and political interests can make for strange bedfellows but the reality is that when you sleep with camels you will eventually wake up with fleas.
Israel, Washington, London, the omnipotent triad and Turkey(Erdogan) the wanna be gunslinger for hire. Now that the oil smuggling business is in decline Erdogan looks to Israel (Mossad) to boost his plummeting stock value. A whore's whore, he will provide any service requested just to run with the pack. For a psychopath addicted to fraudulent gain trading shekels for dollars is better than nothing.
President Assad and his wife visit a church in Damascus during the Christmas season.
https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/677914253332865025
President Assad and his wife dining with John 57 Kerry and Teresa H Kerry prior to the "civil" war.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2408805/John-Kerrys-cosy-dinner-Syrias-Hitler-Secretary-State-Assad-pictured-dining-Damascus.html
Beward of the Yiddish handshake!
So how many fingers have you lost so far?
At least one on his left hand - the one that tried to type "Beware".
It is not the fingers you stand to lose. It is the wallet in you back pocket. This is Picketpocket Distraction 101.
The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.
What????
ZH exposing the Jew?
The end is surely near.
Gott Mit Uns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWTdZiW_s2I
Those that market ISIS oil together, make music together.
I wonder just how that went?
Bibi: Now we will have a press conference, either one that we announce our partnership and you live happily ever after, or one where we detail the ISIS oil sales and you get the Gadhafi treatment.
Erdogan: (Bemused) Now lets go over the options one more time.
Perhaps it is out of need. But it is too early to call.
The US, yesterday, flew into Iraq and bomb an Iraqi military post. Which supports Turkey being in Iraq.
Is Turkey contracting - or expanding it's associations and influence. Perhaps Turkey is to act as a public common friend of some seperated groups.
Erdogan found out that the Western European's had put a limit on his NATO card. Meanwhile Erdogan is getting a whole lot of pissed off Turks out for his ass because of their loss of purchasing power and his attempts to scrounge their gold. If nothing else he needs some traveling money put by for getting out of town now. Russia and Israel both have reasons to see an increase in the price of oil and gas. See Erdogan get caught in a squeeze play between Russia and Israel. Watch what happens if he actually tries to expel Hezbollah. He's going to need some luck to ever see that 20 million. Meanwhile Russia is buying fruits and veggies from Israel that it used to buy from Turkey. Bend over Erdogan and take it like a manly man. Unless Putin wants to hear you squeal like a pig.
If Turkey thought the Russians were difficult vendors, wait til they have a year with Israel.
You Yanks should grab a Ham - there might be NO Turkey left for Christmas
Turkey going to wake up one morning with a jumbo Hebrew National frank up their ass. But the Turks like that kind of thing and the Hebs don't mind it either so everything should be good.
It's a fascist alliance of ancient love
Israel is the world's most moral state. The average reader would not know that thanks to the Arab propaganda machine, and the western world's lazy left-leaning media.
Realpolitik is driving its relationship with Turkey. Pity it trumps morality.
There is no such thing as a moral government, they are all inherently evil.
Name one government which does not kill and steal and lie. For the purposes of this exercise you can go back as far in history as you like, but myths and legends are not acceptable answers.
True and even if we had no government it would be the same.
So the only thing about having a government is because it enslaves a population to support the government.
Now we can split hairs over good or bad government ... still got to pay for it in some way though.
So the best option is? No government anywhere.
You pay for it with your life or hard labor, fiat money that is worthless and all the rest.
The best option is not an option. Life without a government means life without cities or villages.
We could all live happily and free as illiterate hunter-gatherers with a 10 million global population. If you want more people, you'll need grain fields. If you have fields, you'll need guards and a guards commander.
Shut Up
I have spent over 30 years fighting against hateful rhetoric.... Please, Stop.
Is that you drinking your own kosher kool aid, or are you just trying to feed it to us?
It's fucking theocracy.
Fuck. Coudn't see this coming....hahahahah
Turkey gets the oil and sells it to Israel.
Turkey... bunch of fucking cunts.
If I am not mistaken, Israelis manage the government of Turkey's money. So the premise of this article is overblown.
When most of you hear the expression "Israeli gas", the first thing you probably do is gently tap your sternum with your fist and try to remember what it was about that Israeli woman that let her pesuade you to try some Israeli cooking. It wasn't your first experience with heartburn, but it took it to a new level.
Today, Israeli gas refers to the Leviathan gas fields off of Gaza in the Mediterranean.
As you can imagine there was much 'mazel toving' in Tel Aviv and New York. Israel was ascending to become a New Energy Power in die Welt.
Did I say "mazel tov?" I should have said " kain aynhorah."
Because God, as He has done countless times in the past, snatched the lox away before the Netanyahoos could arrange it on their cream cheese and bagels.
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-1.674012
if there's one thing a Jew is more afraid of than cancer, it's competition.
What does it mean?
It means there are lots of undiscovered fields around the region, some under israeli control, others not. Theres great potential to pipe it all to europe and burn it, to never see it again.
Sure, there are still lots of undiscovered fields around the region, but every year there are fewer cheap and easy-to-drill ones, which raise the price of the gas they do find.
For 5 years the Israelis counted their chickens before they were hatched and now all they have is chicken noodle soup.
At the 2012 Herzliya Israel Security conference, there was a closed invite-only session titled something like "$250 per barrel oil - should Israel sell or store?"
I suspect that was the origin of the plan to drop oil prices. It was ostensibly to destroy Russia, but it also had the side effect of taking out other competitiors such as Suadi Arabia and US frackers. This would leave Israel in a strong position once the gas pipeline though Syria to Europe was constructed, especially if they could expel all the Palestinians in Gaza and take control of Lebanon and Syrian coastal areas. Unfortunately, things have not gone to plan, thanks to Russia's timely intervention.
Remember, the Israeli strike of Leviathan was a gas strike -- not oil. And would have no effect on the price of oil.
As you say it would do damage to Russia's gas sales to Europe, but only after the fall of Assad and the laying of the pipe through Syria and Turkey to Greece or laying a completely underwater pipeline from the Leviathan field across the Mediterranean into the Aegean Sea
The Egyptian 'super giant' strike will have a much easier time hooking up with the Tunisian pipeline to Italy.
Yes, the Leviathan field is an asset for the future of Israel, but it will turn out to be nothing like Tel Aviv dreamed it would be for the last few years.
At this stage of the game, getting investors to commit money for the building of the pipeline will not be as easy since Egypt's even bigger find and potentially lower price.
Putin, unlike our presidential candidates, talked to Shitheadyahoo. When our presidential candidates see Shitheadyahoo, they suck his dick.
Mass migration of a group of people to Europe, a group which has no
allegiance to western liberal values.I think this is an enormous cockup
and someone needs to be named and shamed.
Also,the ship involved in the Gaza flotilla was named after a young American lass,
flattened by an Israeli Army combat bulldozer,trying to prevent Arab dwellings from
being destroyed,punishment for "allowing shoot and scoot missle launcher pickup
trucks" to operate in the area.As if the villagers had any say in the matter.
Rachel Corrie may have been a naive young idealist from Olympia,WA.,but this is
criminal behaviour on the behalf of the IDF and won't be forgotten. (Read USS Liberty)
People in America are a little tired of the "Victim Card" being played all the time.
The West Bank has been clustered with settlements over the last forty years,and it
becomes fairly obvious that the Israeli Gov't has no intention of ever giving it back.
Someone once said that "You can do almost anything with a bayonet except sit on
one". I think things got a lot more dangerous in the MENA.As someone above stated,
Erdogan must be really desperate to do this.If he had any credibility left....
Turkish military coup in 3,2,1......
Please permit me my personal message to the Jew-haters populating this post.
When we were led into the gas chamber, YOU said nothing
When we were forcibly converted, YOU said nothing
When we were thrown out of a country just for being Jews, YOU said nothing
When we now defend ourselves all of a sudden, YOU have something to say
How did we take our revenge on the Germans for their Final Solution?
How did we take revenge on the Spanish for their Inquisition?
How did we take revenge on Islam for being Dhimmi?
How did we take revenge on the lies of the Protocols of Zion?
We studied our Torah
We innovated in medicine
We innovated in defense systems
We innovated in technology
We innovated in agriculture
We made music
We wrote poetry
We made the desert bloom
We won Noble prizes
We founded the movie industry
We financed democracy
We fulfilled the word of Hashem by becoming a light unto the Nations of the Earth
So World when you criticise us for defending our heritage and our ancestral homeland we the Jew’s of the World do exactly what you did, we ignore you.
You have proven to us for the last 2,000 years that when the chips are down you don’t care.
Now leave us alone and go sort out you own back yard whilst we continue our 5775-year old mission, enhancing the World we share.
"jewish bolshevism"
"did 6 million jews really die"
We <-> You
Jew <-> Goy
Please take your antagonizer head as deep as you can up in your own ass.
They're not even children of Judah. They're not even children of Abraham. They're not even children of Shem.
The "jew" of today is exclusively made of converts to the pharisaic mystery cult brought back from Babylon. Be they Caucasian Ashkenazi (making up close to 80% - though they were above 90% prior to WW2), North African or European. The modern "jews" are not Jewish.
Every which way to discredit Jews, This one is hilarious! Too bad genetic science and bio markers that most Jews have make this not only false but rediculous. Actually we were descended from superior Aliens and genetically modified to try to advance gentile stupidity.HA!
Admitted by James Watson who ununraveled the DNA molecule and explained in the "Bell Curve" its quite a burden that we bear. Amazing how every country in the world opens offices in Israel to milk the inteligence that is so obvious. The latest is China but it already includes every tech company. So I beleive a motasaurus was prehistoric worm correct?
i would like to translate for our non jewish friends
We studied our Torah - and the talmud especially the talmud, the torah is not so important
We innovated in medicine - by trying to earn more money and get rich, (most of our inventions are stolen, but no one dares to question)
We innovated in defense systems - with your taxmoney
We innovated in technology - by trying to earn more money and get rich, (most of our inventions are stolen, but no one dares to question)
We innovated in agriculture - well thats not true but lets just claim it like we always do
We made music - after buying up your media now you and your childern are forced to listen to our crap
We wrote poetry - that was the dark times when there wan no mass media like it is today, we still used it to brainwash as much as we can
We made the desert bloom - by using your tax money
We won Noble prizes - in fact we give the the nobel prizes to ourself and people that benefits us
We founded the movie industry - we took over the movie industrie because we undrestood the potencial possibilities of brainwash and earning money
We financed democracy - modern democracy is ours, we profit the most from democracy, all of us sitting in the government and owning corporations while you are working for us but at least you can vote between 2 parties, which in fact are one and the same
thats why we need to brag on the internet about thing no one cares about
now leave us white skinned original jews of the book while sit on your taxmoney and do our own... well what are we doing anwany? well, it doesnt matter, becaus we are jews. even sitting in a desert protecting sand and stoned from other snadniggers the peak of our jewish 6000 years old civilisation.
I would rather it be the Torah than the Koran. The Koran starts off like a sweat-shop made imitation of the Torah an then finishes off with the ravings of a sadistic, psychopathic, pedophile.
I'm curious if you can even name on thing a Jew has "stolen in medicine", as if saving lives is somehow cheapened by using all available knowledge anyhow.
Israel continues to innovate in defense, because their neighrbors constantly try to kill them and follow a rule-book that says it is OK to do so. Tax dollars--as if foreign aid is not in the best interest of the countries who give-- comes because Israel is one of the sane and democratic state in the Middle Esast to be counted upon.
I think it likely that one average Jew innovates and creates 30x more than any average Jew-hater could even dream of.
Agriculture-whatever, who cares.
Music and poetry: Mandelstam. That is all.
Desert bloom, their neighbors should care because Israeli desalination technology will keep them alive because some of them stupidly depleting their aquifer to grow grow wheat out in the desert. Think about it: Israeli desalination technology, Saudi suicide by thirst. Can't blame the Jews for that one. Just another stupid idea born from oil wealth and the luxury it allows to not think ahead until it is too late.
The Swedes give out the Nobel prize. Not exactly overruning with Jews, especially now that they have let in an influx of raping uncivilized brutes. Yes, I mean by this muslim refugees.
Jews work hard and earn their living. Their enemies, jealous to the point of hate mostly live in tyrannical states sitting on oil reserves, just live off handouts from the government. No taxation for no representation.
Your last line is so pregnant with self-hate, frustration at seeing your poverty on every conceivable dimension, and despair that it needs an abortion.
JM enjoyed your post. agree with alot of it. but ,there always is a but..
the jews suffer from elitism, arrogance, and greed, and a very real fear of pogroms..they excel at so many professions, why should CRIME be excluded?
I stand with Mencken:
"an anti-Semite is someone who dislikes Jews more than is absolutely necessary.”
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Sure. I would will merely say that everyone is subject to these flaws, and you are right that the perception could be due to Jews not trusting others.
I hope that whn you say criminal you don't automatically mean banker.
Times have changed since H L Mencken lived. I wonder if that thoughtful soul would still say that now.
This was closer to the time of Jack the Ripper's grimy industrial revolution, not precisely but closer to that time than now. Parts of London were more dangerous and violent than anything seen now. A "gentleman", merely by appearance wouldn't last long in those parts at night. The establishment had forced immigrants into these parts, among them Jews. It was common to equate a foreigner with violence and hostility.
But at least they all worked, the iron discipline and virtue of the time. Speaking in the large, I've not seen a more absorbent sponge than a sunni Arab drawing welfare in the EU nowadays.
JM, thanks for your reply, Mencken was called a racist - his views on negros were common for his day, I suppose the same for his view of jews.
Jews are a remarkable people..I love much of what they have given - but..I cannot ignore the downside ..as my Zen training kicks in and one must be able to see reality, before one can understand illusion and escape from it.
control of MSM & FED & hollywood, great influence by jews for the numbers in our population on our government & economy..have not produced results promoting freedom but have pushed our society to fascism,censorship and is balkanizing much of the western world.
There is no mistaking that civilization leaves something to be desired, it seems faster, larger, and emptier. Can this be entirely attributed to something Jewish?
no, not entirely by far..elements of elite wealthy who form the backbone of the CFR and Davos and bildebergers and other secret clubs of wealth and power, have much to answer for, along with the political elite..two shining examples are Bush clan and Clinton crime families here in America. (both of which are not jewish)
Thinking about your comment, it seems something of a Nietzschean line and saying that the zeitgeist is fundamentally transient and somehow linked to "the wandering Jews": neither rooted and symmetric as the Apollonian nor orginary and trageically insoluble as in the Dionysian. Your line is more concrete but ultimately has simlar features. There are people who should lead and people who are to be led. A century ago, there were those who prepare the way: Neitzsche, Heidegger, Junger lead ultimately to the leader. At best he is a Caesar, at worst a Hitler. For these people (not you) it was a question of what is, not what should be. There is always a shepherd designing, and always sheep.
I do not agree. The world for whatever reason, is in constant flux, always changing and hopelessly stumbling into new states. Nature hates normality and loves mutations. This is why it is transient. And as such we live in transience. The wealthy elite will not always be wealthy and all groups will disintegrate into the dust.
Maybe this is misses the mark and I am thinking too hard.
HL Menken was a jew...his father was a cigar merchant/maker in baltimore.
but Mr. Menken -- oddly enough -- considered himself an american first and a jew by incidental consequence of birth. i highly doubt he'd amend his views on anything except, perhaps, the atheism (in 'light' of modern discoveries in physics, etc.). i am above all certain that he wouldn't be a dual-citizen.
janus
Janus, would not doubt it. some jews say: "nobody hates a jew worse than another jew".. although ZH might just disprove them.
to repeat: mr Mencken:'
"an anti-Semite is someone who dislikes Jews more than is absolutely necessary.”
one would be wrong to view this statement as anti semetic..there is an elegance to it.
the second most thing in the world i love is me
but nice try
in fact we jews do hate ourself the most. we just try to ignore it as much as we can
most of us do not look good
most of our woman are ugly
our religion is boring
our traditions are boring
we had no land for so long and tried to adapt other nationalities, but were rejected by native populations because of our filthy mischievous behavour
in reality we are sad even if we own all banks all money it cant fill our heart and give us what really want
no matter how much we jews try to convince ourselfs, in reality deep inside our hearts we know we sit on a BIG LIE
thats why we want to destroy all other nations, make them all turn into once mixed race. we are desperate losers
comparable to the guy, who won the marathon through cheating and manipulation and bribed the judges and refrees and everyone hates him
but he cant admit that he is a fail, a fake, a nothing, a criminal
you are saying the koran is filth. thats true! but the koran is a reaction on us
same as the stupid chritians are nothing else but an reaction on us
muslims are the problem but we were the cause and it backlashed on us and it will backlash again, unless we force the muslims to convert to something else, something that is harmless. may we need to invent a new religion for them.
i know the jewish number must be constantly reduced, otherwise the system do not work
we can not constantly fund our opponets with money so they kill a part of our population, only to say later "we are victims"
there is only one single tradition i keep - i dont eat pork
Please don't forget sick as shit nature of our food and music. Klezmer for G's sake?
jm conveniently forgets that Palestinians were once at peace with their Jewish neighbors until the zionist movement instigated terrorist tactics to drive them out of their homes.
There will be no peace in Israel until they abandon their zionist arrogance. The odds are not in their favor.
JM doesn't forget the Palestinians. They have less claim to the area than Israelis do.
The real questions is why don't the surrounding muslim states rally to their cause? Oh yeah, they did and got heir asses handed to them.
So... in the aftermath... why didn't the surrounding muslim states takes them in?
Answer is sadly they didn't want them. So much for brotherhood.
I think it is amazing that there are 20 million Jews in the world, and about 2 billion muslims. Despite their best efforts, Israel is still there more prosperous and more than capable of defending herself against neighbors multiples larger, more populous, and carry a chunk (maybe a majority?) of population that would sooner kill them than look at them.
And I think it is amazing that Jews are credited with so much unproven evil and get no credit for the proven good Jews have brought to the world, some of which you mentioned. Grothendieck was fifity years ahead of his time. We are still trying to catch up to him.
One day this will change.
I find it amazing that the zionists control all the big Too Corrupt To Fail banks too. Amazing, such a small % of people ruining so many lives with buggery
Jew does not equal banker. Plenty of Hindu, muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Taoist, and other religious people need and deploy capital. This is nothing about doing so. But when a debtor overreaches, it can easily ruin them. This is an evil under the sun, pardon the expression, but it takes two to tango.
Ahem, there are hundreds of millions of taxpaying jewish sympathizers in the world through which you milk the money needed to fund your prosperously disproportional power. As long as white anglosaxon preachers shout out old testament jewish mythology from the pulpit every Sunday, you will be fine. But one day, even the dullest of the oxen will wise to your chicanery and shake off their yokes.
You cannot believe that foreign aid doesn't serve the needs of the giver as much as the recipient. Israel is the most reliable foothold in the Middle East, and industrialized countries need oil.
Note that Egypt, a mulsim country, is a great recipient of foreign aid for exactly the same reason. Obama's pride and incompetence makes him hostile to a capable leader like al-Sisi but the aid remains all the same.
jm
I'm glad to hear that our foreign aid doesn't pay for a FasTrak ® through the Suez canal.
Thanks to American tax payers...and thanks to Israhell's greatest efforts to destabilize every functioning democratic nation in the Middle East...
Nope. Israel has beaten the piss out of their neighbors time and again.
Egypt, Jordan and other nations get foreign aid.
As to destabiling, this is what the islamic belief does to itself. Just look at the fuss over Captain Supremo's nephew. And the poor child Supremo raped so that her dad could get to the top.
I would never lift a hand to harm a Jew or any other group or individual who did not pose a direct and immediate threat to me and mine. Now if some of the victims of your chicanery decide to make lampshades and soap out of you I would not lift a hand to become the cockroach involved in a fowl fight. My role is to ensure that I never become a victim of your ethnocentric chicanery. I suppose you will just have to continue with your philosophy of organized deception and see how it works out for the tribe.
Exactly, the issue here is definateley not harming Jews, but stopping zionists (often Ashkenazi) from harming the rest of the world/US.
When I see an idiot like GW Bush surrounded by pit vipers like Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Pearl, Douglas Feith (all Ashkenazi Jews/zionists)and manipulating him to start the war in Iraq, and billionaires like George Soros and Sheldon Adelson, all pushing America to KILL, Hate, DEMONIZE Muslims (not usually in that order) and free peoples around the world, forcing them into Western banking/capitalistic systems, AKA slavery.
The zionists own Washington DC. DC no longer works for the US citizen, have you watched a Republican debate, its all about Muslims, as if we were in the Middle east, and we are, thanks to Israel...
Hum, @ Danepol, I think your superiority complex is showing...
Gas chambers. Fiction. Like the rest of your rubbish.
None of that gives Jews, or any other special interest group. license to do the evil things for which they are so well noted.
So World when you criticise us for defending our heritage and our ancestral homeland we the Jew’s of the World do exactly what you did, we ignore you.
Which, according to the Bible, was stolen from Palestinians, then known as Canaanites. So go right ahead and continue to make enemies and meet the same fate as your Jerusalem ancestors.
"Founded the movie industry", you mean you monopolized the entertainment industry to control propaganda. Try and get a movie made in Hollywood if you are not a Jew or/and promote a precisely Jew perspective.
"Nobel Prize", lol, you mean like the one Drone killer in chief received...just more zionist propaganda.
Just look at Facebook, a group of college guys created it, but then enter the Jewish money machine, the remove all the non Jews, and focus on the one, making him rich and owning them everything. Jews are not smarter, they just take care of their own.
As always, you promote ONLY the history you wish to promote, leaving out the history you wish to hide.
You will note, there is NEVER a discussion about what actually lead up to WW1 or 2, just grand blanket perceptions meant to promote a Jewish world view.
How about talking about central banking an institution certainly promoted and controlled by world wide Jewry.
The point is, if you look around right now, not relying on dubious historical reference, you see filth like Benjamin Netayahu running around trying to start war after war. You have Heim Saban, George Soros, Sheldon Adelson, AIPAC...and many many more working spread hate and disharmony around the world.
So spare us your highly selective/bias version of history, we can look out at the world right now and see Jews hard at work, doing what they do best, causing great suffering, then controlling history to cover their tracks. The problem is the internet is getting in their and YOUR way...
"there is NEVER a discussion about what actually lead up to WW1 or 2"
No need. The EVIL EVIL Germans caused everything. You've not been paying attention.
We made music
We wrote poetry
Don't forget your contributions to dance.
For example, the dancing Moosad agents on 9-11.
LoL!!
Klezmer. Ha.
The protocols is as close to poetry as the tribe comes.
We innovated in medicine
1. You manufacture the generic Prilosec they sell at Costco.
2. Martin Shkreli.
"So World when you criticise us for defending our heritage and our ancestral homeland "
I'd have no problem with your doing this if you'd leave us Westerners do the same thing. But you won't will you? No. It's open borders for us but racially-based and closed borders for you. Jews are head and tale of the mudslide into the West. That's what pisses me off.
He knows about Russian Israeli Jews right? Suck a D Erdogan.
shalom friend donkey
The author has missed the obvious. A renewal of Isreal-Turkey relations is essential if Saudia Arabia's 34-nation Sunni alliance against anthing Shi'ite is to tread water. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure which side Isreal is backing.
I'm thinking that Bibi knows israel's future lies with Russia. Putin has a lot more sway over Persia than obama. And the saudis are almost useless now to israel.
Israhell. Source of all evil.
Most of the Arab world is a sewer in comparison.
https://www.rt.com/news/326508-china-bomber-flight-mistake/
According to the Wall Street Journal, the incident happened last week near the Cuarteron Reef in the Spratly Islands, an archipelago contested by China and several other regional nations. The newspaper cited a US military official as saying that the bomber had mistakenly come within a 12 nautical mile zone of the island - as close as 2 miles, according to the Chinese complaint.
Status update over terror threats affecting Europe and other Honorary Brits:
The English are feeling the pinch in relation to recent events in Syria and have therefore raised their security level from "Miffed" to "Peeved." Soon, though, security levels may be raised yet again to "Irritated" or even "A Bit Cross." The English have not been "A Bit Cross" since the blitz in 1940 when tea supplies nearly ran out. Terrorists have been re-categorized from "Tiresome" to "A Bloody Nuisance." The last time the British issued a "Bloody Nuisance" warning level was in 1588, when threatened by the Spanish Armada.
The Scots have raised their threat level from "Pissed Off" to "Let's get the Bastards." They don't have any other levels. This is the reason they have been used on the front line of the British army for the last 300 years.
The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide." The only two higher levels in France are "Collaborate" and "Surrender." The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France 's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing the country''s military capability.
Italy has increased the alert level from "Shout Loudly and Excitedly" to "Elaborate Military Posturing." Two more levels remain: "Ineffective Combat Operations" and "Change Sides."
The Germans have increased their alert state from "Disdainful Arrogance" to "Dress in Uniform and Sing Marching Songs." They also have two higher levels: "Invade a Neighbour" and "Lose."
Belgians, on the other hand, are all on holiday as usual; the only threat they are worried about is NATO pulling out of Brussels .
The Spanish are all excited to see their new submarines ready to deploy. These beautifully designed subs have glass bottoms so the new Spanish navy can get a really good look at the old Spanish navy.
Australia, meanwhile, has raised its security level from "No worries" to "She'll be alright, Mate." Two more escalation levels remain: "Crikey! I think we'll need to cancel the barbie this weekend!" and "The barbie is cancelled." So far no situation has ever warranted use of the last final escalation level.
A final thought - "Greece is collapsing, the Iranians are getting aggressive, and Rome is in disarray. Welcome back to 430 BC".
http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/926647-alerts-to-threats-in-europe-b...
awesome post, Howdy.
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awesome essay, Mr. Cleese. got me craving some Monty.
Israelis should be unleashed to eradicate all the islamic sub-human vermim.
Is it not the case that some of the Islamic sub-human vermim[sic] in Turkey are actually jewish, eg "the Dönmeh jews".
Would you advocate that they are also eradicated?
Israel is a highly productive state that contributes substantially to global technological progress and economy, so Israel should be expanded to include all the land previously occupied by the islamic cult primitive savages, all the jews in the region should be moved to the expanded Israel. Keep all the useful but weird human subspecies in the same container.
Isrehell and its lunatic fanatic supporters the the root cause of much of the world's ills.
Isrehel is tied up in every wicked event: they are busy in south America, busy in Russia's neighbors, Ukraine and Poland, Macedonia...Busy in Egypt, Iraq, Syria...If there is a democratically elected government that does not follow the zionist master plan, you can be sure George Soros or one of his US tax funded organizations is hard at work undermining them.
Some fun reading for those who want knowledge and not propaganda:
https://thezog.wordpress.com/
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
http://www.serendipity.li/zionism.htm
You hasbara trolls have to just hate google...
Happy to disappoint all you islamic cult living garbage scum, I am not jewish or israeli, I have nothing against them and I have no interest in supporting them with American soldiers or money, they are very useful though, unlike the absolutely worthless islamic cult biogarbage.
You need to expand your repertoire of associates.
When Jews only listen to Jews, the military personnel only hang out with other military personnel, etc., they get a perspective that is very isolating and dangerous for them and everyone else.
Ah yes, funny how the United States of America NEVER had an enemy in the Middle East until Israhell was "created".
Zionism is the filth of this earth, they monitize everything, fight for "open borders" for EVERYONE BUT ISREHELL. The fight to take away our guns while pushing for state militarism and reduction of personal freedems.
Look at the voting records of "Liberal" Diane Feinstien, Barbara Boxer, Schumer, Cardin, Levin...all liberal when it comes to opening America's borders, taking away gun rights, but when it comes to Israhell and the Middle East, the American Constitution takes a back seat to fear mongering and Israhell security.
And don't get me started on the traitors who are ALL about Israhell" John McShame, Lieberman, Graham...
The zionists goal is to turn America into Israel, an enemy of justice and morality, and all about self-righteous ignorance and militarism.
Muslims, Christians and the rest should be fighting against the sins of the real evil, those who wish to enslave the entire human race in a cycle of debt.
Israel IS the "sub-human vermin", who have been released upon humanity...Everywhere they go they spread suffering and misery. They value ONLY their society, their "race", all other's have to "integrate, become "multicultural, but not Israhell, they are "better' than the rest, they get to have a pure nation, while they push for open borders for the rest of the world...typical
Here is a great video that lampoons the Jewish hypocrisy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WKrJsdN2uk
Does referring to others as "sub-human vermin" make you more human? You poor bastard. Your post shows just how insecure you are. Putting someone down does not make you better. It just makes you seem ignorant. While you work on you inner child fears, please pick up a dictionary and learn how to spell "vermin."
I'm jumpin' Erdo Flash it's a GaZ, GaZ, GaZ . . . Relations were never BaD as Bilal, aka B(anal) has been selling stolen Syrian/Iraqi Oil to Israel for the last 2/3 years.
They have a lot in common .No respect for human life that is not part of your tribe.
You have proven to us for the last 2,000 years that when the chips are down you don’t care.
And yet, you seem to be quite willing to cash the 3 billion dollar check each year from the American taxgoypayer.
Same "shit" different day!...
Well at the very least we know who's signature "spunk" the the dumb Polacks are swallowing just like their American counterparts!!!!
“The reawakening of anti semitism is the symptom of a crisis of democracy, a crisis of the Republic”. French Prime Minister Manual Valls, French National Assembly. 13 Jan 2015
The Jew haters spewing bile on this site are not excercising free speech: they are imperilling it.
"Zionism"...
An equal opportunity employer to the "goy" that wish to lick the balls and suck the circumcised dick(s) of their (some are more equal than others) overlords that for no other reason print money out of thin air and commit acts of treason and genocide to those that refuse to pay the fee ... And that if they wish to have ANY peace safety and security in their own neighborhood they must ensure that they only sell their inhereitance, land, minerals energy etc to other "sanctioned parties" ONLY by decree of said overlords with the ONLY money the Zionist system will allow them to sell it in!
Why would anyone be a Zionist hater?!!!
Leave the religion at the door brotha because anyone that can create mass genocide on this scale doesn't believe in a higher being and most assuredly doesn't respect anyone else including themselves.
So they should be stopped from speaking then?
They're dying to vote for the Satanyahoo/Erdogan ticket in HELL...
Bilal : Wa Wa , Papa I want my dark chocolate, NOW
Mafiosi papa erDOGan : do not worry son I have asked the top goon to rob the chocolate factory