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CISA: “Just Another Example Of Corruption”

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Last week, Congress passed CISA by hiding it in the middle of a sure-to-pass spending bill, and Obama signed it into law ... even though the Department of Homeland Security had previously said that the bill will HURT national security and destroy privacy (numerous experts agreed).

And – just like with previous spying laws – the government has a secret interpretation of CISA which will make it even worse.

So why was the bill passed?

As the American public is starting to learn  – and politicians from both side of the aisle admitcorruption has thoroughly destroyed America.

The highest-level NSA whistleblower in history – William Binney – the high-level NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information, 36-year NSA veteran widely regarded as a “legend” within the agency, who served as the senior technical director within the agency, and managed thousands of NSA employees –  explains that corruption is what’s motivating mass surveillance against the American people … and it’s what’s making us vulnerable to terrorism.

Washington’s Blog asked Binney what he thought of CISA, and he said:

This is just another example of the White House, leadership (if you want to call it that) in Congress, the intelligence committees, and the intelligence agencies manipulating the system to get what they want (more money and more knowledge to control).
 

 

Clearly, CISA would not stand on it’s own; so, they had to sneak it through buried inside a massive funding bill at the end of the year.

 

Again, we see just another example of corruption in our government in Washington DC. They don’t have the courage or backbone to stand for what they want out in the open where there can be an honest debate like we are suppose to have in a democracy.

 

The established political parties should not be confused as to why citizens are sick of them. Our only solution is to fire them all in the next election and try to get honest citizens in these jobs.

Binney points out:

It would be good if most people in DC read the [articles of impeachment against Richard Nixon].  Nixon did only a miniscule amount of what the last two presidents and their co-conspirators have done and continue to do.

He’s right

And it’s not just the politicos … Binney says we also have to fire the bums running the intelligence agencies. And see this.

 

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Tue, 12/22/2015 - 10:04 | 6952407 shutterbug
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The only solutions is pitchforks and rope for most politicians.

looking @ republicans AND democrats alike.

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 09:49 | 6952367 Jstanley011
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Our only solution is to fire them all in the next election and try to get honest citizens in these jobs.

Honest citizens, haha. His naivete is touching.

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 08:52 | 6952195 To Hell In A Ha...
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My American cousins you have it all wrong to a degree. Don't blame the law, or the establishment that wanted it. The blame lays squarely at the feet of the rotten and corrupt Representatives, WHOSE FUCKING JOB IT IS TO ANALYTICALLY SCRUTINIZE THE BILL AND CONCLUDE IF THE BILL IS WORTH PASSING. This is what these fuckers are ultimately paid for at our expense, handsomely so and repeatedly fail to do. The fact is 85% of these so-called Representatives are not only corrupt, but incompetent and this is a nation destroying attribute to have. The system in its current guise is almost dead and to maintain the illusion of U.S grandeur, plundering the weak, the defenseless, destabilizing countries and regions for resources and hegemony has exposed us for what we are. Nothing more than thieves and crooks, who are willing to kill to maintain this facade and this facade starts with our financial system and the traitors that help maintain this parasitic entity.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:12 | 6950811 nc551
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There is nothing wrong with calling out treason, demanding fair and public trials, and execution if found guilty for all participating government workers from top to bottom.  Those words and that vibe needs to be circulated in the open.  Until you start hearing people at the coffee shop muttering about treason trials in accordance with the constitution nothing is going to change.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 17:53 | 6950591 More Ammo
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like we are suppose to have in a democracy"

I get so tired of this falsehood being pushed.  This is suposed to be a republic and this "democracy transposition" is what ended the "Rule of Law" a long time ago.

 

Welcome to the Oligarchy.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:49 | 6951307 WhackoWarner
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Welcome to the PLAN.  But I think the plan is fucking up a bit much to the chagrin of many self-acclaimed thinkers and managers.  I think there is panic mode spinning out of "control".

 

Yes we are where we are.  And Soros and the whole of DC garbage, City of London and on and on.....are losing it.

 

When will people all over the world wake up (or enough of them).  Hard to say.  Tipping point.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 15:41 | 6950042 Insurrexion
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Hang them in a long line along Pennsylvania Blvd. to show Americans what  happens to the corrupt.

Thousands of corrput assholes rotting on ropes is the solution.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 15:17 | 6949960 windcatcher
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Fire Them? The only way to stop the “Empire” criminal Oligarchy monopoly collusion and corruption of “American Democracy” and Free Enterprise Capitalism”  is to “fire them” for Treason by “firing squad” after the revolution.

Empire Fascist (merger of monopoly corporations with government) big money to hire mercenaries is hard to defeat and will not be accomplished peacefully or without great struggle.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 09:55 | 6948501 Cloud9.5
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Corruption is the highest level of inefficiency.  Eventually it consumes the system and collapses it.  All empires fall.  We are in the process.  Look to yourselves and loved ones.  Expect things to get medieval. 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 11:36 | 6948903 divingengineer
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It is just so much easier than the Legislative Process. They're lazy, that's all, to get anything done with all the checks and balances, debating, bargaining and coalition forming is dreadfully arduous and time consuming. Much easier to take the country to the brink of financial collapse and sneak it into page 1,783 of a document that nobody has read and everyone wants to vote for to "save the country". 

I think a lot of people probably got snookered by this bill. They sneak through BIG laws now in almost every major piece of legislation and budget.

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 14:46 | 6949694 Mr. Ed
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Laws passed the way CISA was passed need to be disobeyed!

LEGALLY!

An existing legal principle nullifies unclearly written laws, which are described as "VOID FOR VAGUENESS".

This principle should be extended to include laws that were passed with only a VAGUE understanding of their content.  An assertion of DEFECTIVE LEGISLATIVE INTENT (in this case, effectively zero intent!)... and therefore, DEFECTIVE LAW... would underpin this position.

Most courts will agree that defective laws don't deserve to be obeyed.

Disobedience of such in the current Omnibus Bill and the ACA would be great places to start a test case.

From a simple common sense viewpoint, everyone should ask: "why the hell should I obey a law that no lawmaker has read or understood?  Why!!"

We've got a fine mess where these legislators are elected to do a job which is to read, understand, debate and represent... and yet, the majority of them just flub it!  Who the hell do these people think they are?

"It's a madhouse!!!"  (I feel like Charlton Heston in Planet of the Apes)

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 15:43 | 6950045 windcatcher
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In reply to Mr Ed:

By law, the government is the only entity authorized to use force.

 

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 09:50 | 6952370 Jstanley011
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No it's not.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:56 | 6951342 WhackoWarner
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Oh hey. I beg to differ.  The government apparently rules by the whim and confidence of the PEOPLE.   When gov becomes nothing more than a criminal enterprise then they lose every single authority to govern. pass laws or use force,

 

The PEOPLE will take back the authority to govern. When and if the cable bill gets too high, or welfare is cut, or the military police knocks on too many doors,  When all ability to transact on a one-on-one cash basis is raped.

 

It is coming and I do not know the spark.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:39 | 6951495 windcatcher
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Thank you whackowarner, Empire Oligarchy and wars are so 20th Century; 21 Century revolution is evolution to a new future for humanity. Take heart, the millennials job will be to save themselves with Democracy or be slaves under the boot of totalitarian Empire.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:14 | 6950624 Mr. Ed
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Say what??

We're not talking about using force here.  How the hell did you get that out of what I wrote... huh?  Simple disobedience does not require force.  And besides, the proposed end was legal action... again, not force!

Wait!  Let me guess: you work for some gov agency that "Fights Domestic Terrorism"  Aye?

That agency is looking to expand its little empire.  That means it needs to find someone who advocates violence...and failing at that, it needs to misinterpret someone's writings if that's what it takes.  Otherwise, it can't show evidence of domestic terrorism which it needs to justify the expansion of its budget and power.

Get off this forum you trolling little piece of government shit!  Do they pay you well for this kind of "work"?

Just get out!

GET!  OUT!

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:38 | 6950902 windcatcher
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Are we having a little screaming fit instead of intelligent dialogue Mr. Ed? Mr. Ed the talking horse made more sense? Ha. Ha. Ha

How can you confuse me with a paid mercenary for the fascist government? You are the one that is the trained pathetic victim of fascist totalitarian government and all you can do is whine. Ha. Ha. Ha.

I was hoping that you would counter with the argument that the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights guarantees the right of Americans to bear arms against oppressors of our Constitution and our Bill of Rights, but alas, you are another hopeless and helpless victim. Be sure and turn your guns in. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:21 | 6951186 Mr. Ed
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Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:08 | 6951395 WhackoWarner
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You two are on the same side but are arguing semantics instead of discussing.  People everywhere are not going to willingly go back to some feudal form of slavery or worse.

 

Very. very, very few hands hold the money cards that govern most of this world.  By arguing opinions of abuse you do nothing to address the real situation.  This is a centuries old demonstration of wealth and power,  It has morphed into a global dominance that is now focused on ownership of every single resource.

Watch and think.  Privatization of utilities, of water, of farmlands, beaches (sand)...dismantling nationhood (EU)....omnibus bills that pass laws of police state out of view, obscene propaganda via controlled media/news. Defunding of education and the rewriting of history to suit the narrative...

Making criminals of any journalist or scholar or scientist who tells the facts.

 

Very few hands actually control the $$$. The rest are pawns.  They are as stupid as the Kardashian bum voyeurs.

 

You two should be discussing the common anger of the wrong. 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:04 | 6951576 windcatcher
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Thanks again whackowarner: Our Founding Fathers of the United States of America had to deal with the domination of the Oligarchy British Empire and now Americans have to deal with the Oligarchy Washington Empire of corporate monopoly fascist.

When push, turns to shove, Americans will fight back but restoring Democracy, Rule of Law and Free Enterprise Capitalism will not be accomplished peacefully and without struggle.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 09:12 | 6948382 hootowl
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The Iranians could do the world a favor by using their first nuke attack to hit the District of Criminals while all the crriminals are in session in their allotted lairs so they all could be exterminated at once.

That may be the only way that cesspool of corruption can be cleaned-up.

Oh......And we don't want to forget Jew York and the nation-destroying Babylonian banksters who control the phony funds that feed the corruption.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 11:30 | 6948872 divingengineer
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I'm beginning to think an EMP attack or a Carrington Event might be the only thing that can SAVE humanity. 

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 15:53 | 6950083 windcatcher
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In reply to divingengineer:

Hey! That’s what Ted Kaczyski, the “Unabomer” said! Ha. Ha. Ha.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 09:07 | 6948370 hootowl
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The Iranians could do the world a favor by using their first nuke attack to hit the District of Criminals while all the crriminals are in session in their allotted lairs so they all could be exterminated at once.

That may be the only way that cesspool of corruption can be cleaned-up.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 13:55 | 6949594 assistedliving
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mix-up the weedwhacker wid de moonshine agin Hoot?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 08:03 | 6948264 Burticus
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SECESSION is the only political solution available in the time remaining.

http://leagueofthesouth.com/

http://freeflorida.org/

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 16:13 | 6950188 windcatcher
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In reply to Bruticus: Breaking up the United States of America is a brainwash put out by the Empire corporate monopoly fascist. Ever hear of divide and conquer? What do you think Feudalism is all about?

You have 7 votes, do you see how effective brainwashing works? Your group is the New World Order Empire fascist ace in the hole. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 10:24 | 6948593 atthelake
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As soon as Texas seceeds, LaRaza will swoop in and take over. That may be what tptb want.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 02:38 | 6948051 Dexter Morgan
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Vote the bums out?  LOLZ  I tried, not worth the gas.  He almost had me until that statement.  Only reason I vote is for weed and against all taxes, and then pray like hell the system is even remotely honest, which I seriously doubt.  Plus I'm atheist so praying doesn't help much.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:16 | 6951615 Teknopagan
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Atheists pray without words

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 08:52 | 6948342 jughead
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You got it.  Vote local and ignore everything else...it's a rigged game anyway.  If there isn't a decent candidate or choice (I can't remember the last time there was) I write in either Snoopy or None of the Above.  

Sun, 12/20/2015 - 23:57 | 6947792 YHC-FTSE
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Yep, CISA was hidden in plain sight in the middle of the 1.1 trillion dollar spending bill. You know what else snuck in? Mitch McConnell's addendum to enable dark money and anonymous donors to buy politicians by preventing the SEC and IRS, which are already unfunny jokes as far as enforcing the rules on the 1% are concerned, from implementing any orders to disclose political contributions, contributions to tax exempt organizations or dues paid to trade associations, thus giving a green light to any organization declaring itself as "Non-profit" to pour funds and conduct political activity unhindered in secret.

I've been watching with interest just how much worse the system could be corrupted, already rife with corporatists, the MIC, zionist lobbys and think tanks in control of the permanent government. Lo and behold, it gets worse.

Sun, 12/20/2015 - 22:17 | 6947615 Milestones
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The only thing that will bail out this country at this stage in the game is that the millions of what everoone has been buying and  acumulating, knowing exactly what is taking place and we all know it; and like Hamlet dither and cry---and do nothing.     THE HOME OF THE BRAVE indeed!!!         Milestones

Sun, 12/20/2015 - 23:22 | 6947490 Reaper
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The delusion is that the government truthfully reports/testifies concerning its surveillances. The delusion of juries is that the government's agents, aka FBI agents, testify truthfully; and/or government prosecutotors would not present false evidence; and/or use jailhouse witnesses; and/or present false forensic evidence. The facts are different.

False evidence: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/fbi-overstated-forensic-hair-...

False FBI testimony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgDsbjAYXcQ

Jailhouse snitches: http://www.pewtrusts.org/~/media/legacy/uploadedfiles/wwwpewtrustsorg/re...

"Everything the government or its agents says is a lie"~ Nietzsche paraphrased.

Sun, 12/20/2015 - 20:06 | 6947277 xavi1951
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DP

Sun, 12/20/2015 - 18:21 | 6947016 stopcpdotcom
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“Any politician who thinks they can fight the evil that has consumed the government is delusional or lying. There is no political solution.”

http://www.barnhardt.biz/2015/12/20/repeat-until-fully-comprehended/


Sun, 12/20/2015 - 18:04 | 6946975 chunga
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I'm afraid there is only one way to fire these fuckers and it ain't gonna be easy.

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 07:46 | 6952126 doctor10
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Joe Stalin conducted purges through the 1950's to keep several steps ahead of the hangmen.

The criminal oligarchy in the USA now has the tools, via NSA surveillance. It is only a matter of time, as the domestic economy implodes consequent to the freedoms they have stolen, before they will perceive the necessity of the same.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 17:56 | 6950605 More Ammo
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<=== Gun Fire

<=== Burning at the stake

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 10:50 | 6948686 atthelake
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Firing their owners would accomplish more.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 08:19 | 6948285 Reginald Blome
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I propose setting them on fire as an alternative to firing in the employment sense.

Sun, 12/20/2015 - 21:55 | 6947561 Mandel Bot
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We can't fire the bums using the ballot box because all we are offered is a choice between one bum and another bum.

Its gonna take stronger measures.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 10:23 | 6948586 Estrella
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Perhaps, but, a majority of Americans peole inside the borders, believe that Hillary can fix the problem. And they will let her try.

Get ready for it.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 15:40 | 6950039 gmrpeabody
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"peole"..., my favorite Mexican dish.  ;-)

Sun, 12/20/2015 - 23:37 | 6947761 . . . _ _ _ . . .
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"Fire!"

"The bums."

Sun, 12/20/2015 - 20:05 | 6947279 xavi1951
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Rand Paul just called out Congress for passing the bill without reading it.  Chunga is probably right.  It isn't going to be easy to get rid of them.  The slow voting process or the messy one.  Both are painful.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 10:19 | 6948547 Mr. Ed
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We need to have a widespread movement to openly DISOBEY ALL LAWS that pass a legislature that has voted with only a vague knowledge of WHAT THEY CONTAIN!

There is an existing legal principle recognized by all courts which states that any law so POORLY WRITTEN that it cannot be clearly understood is "void for vagueness".

This basic principle should be extended to cover laws voted for by a legislature that has had only a VAGUE UNDERSTANDING of them (if any) prior to passage.

Bring a test case.

An alternative approach would be to argue from an "absence of legislative intent or a defective legislative intent"...

The ACA and portions of the current Omnibus Bill would be a good place to start!

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:03 | 6950626 More Ammo
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Already done but so much for "Rule of Law" because that law calls for the death penalty.

Those who take these acts have committed a non-act in fact and in law, and in addition anyone involved in the "enforcement" of this non-law have both committed a federal felony under 18 USC 242 and a civil violation under 42 USC 1983.  So says, by the way, Norton .v. Shelby County (that is, the United States Supreme Court):

“An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed.” Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U.S. 425 (1886)

 

source: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3395055

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 15:38 | 6950034 gmrpeabody
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This country will need many more lampposts..., that's for sure.

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