Putin Blasts Interventionist US Foreign Policy, Calls Forcible Regime Change "Intolerable"
"Let’s remember why we became part of a coalition to stop [Libyan dictator Muammar] Gaddafi from committing atrocities against his people.”
That’s from Hillary Clinton who defended here foreign policy credentials in Saturday night’s third Democratic presidential debate. Hitting back at Bernie Sanders, who accused her of being “too much into regime change and a little bit too aggressive without knowing what the unintended consequences might be,” the former Secretary of State said the US “will not get the support on the ground in Syria to dislodge ISIS if the fighters there - who are not associated with ISIS, but whose principal goal is getting rid of Assad - don’t believe there is a political diplomatic channel that is ongoing.”
"I am not giving up on Libya and no one should," she added.
Unfortunately, we probably should “give up” on Libya, because the power vacuum created by Gaddafi’s fall has turned the country into a lawless wasteland and a breeding ground for ISIS. For those who might have forgotten what “democratic regime changed” looked like in Libya, allow us to refresh your memory:
Ah, yes, a peaceful transition in the true spirit of democracy.
For his part, Putin asked the following: "Who gave the West the right to carry out regime change?" Here's the clip from 2011:
Well, in the wake of Hillary's comments during the debate, Putin is out with a bit of fresh criticism with regard to what Russia calls illegitimate attempts to bring about the downfall of governments deemed "undesirable" by Western powers.
"Outsiders forcing change of legitimate powers in other countries is intolerable," Putin told Rossiya TV.
While geopolitical disagreements are “inevitable and "all right", foreign policy needs to be conducted "by civilized rules”, he continued. We assume that "civilized rules" do not include arming and funding Sunni extremists especially ones who The Pentagon knows are likely to establish Salafist principalities within the borders of sovereign states.
Putin went on to say that by becoming a puppet of the US, "Europe has given up [an] independent foreign policy" thereby surrendering part of its sovereignty to US."
When it comes to intervening in order to keep the geoplotical scales in balance, "Russia isn’t afraid" to step in, and will always act with "maximum caution," (we're not entirely sure one can classify the rather rapid and aggressive deployment in Syria as being conducted with "maximum caution", but it's certainly a more cautious approach than arming any and all anti-government elements in hopes that one of them will turn out not to be extremists).
In the end though, Putin concedes that Russia has no catch-all solution for color revolutions. The "only recipe for how to deal with them is to strengthen international law," he concludes.
Exactly. Which means that at some point, the international community needs to insist that the US and its allies both in the Mid-East and Europe cease the ubiquitous practice of fomenting discord within sovereign states. It never works where "works" means a stable deomcracy takes root in the ashes of a dictatorship. Between Libya, Iraq, and Syria, the US truly has "become Death, the destroyer of worlds."
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The US neocons who thrive on chaos and war will be so disappointed in Putin.
The free and fair Western Press labels Putin an insane mass-murderer while the Nobel Prize Winner has bombed 7 Muslim countries and killed over 300,000 in Syria alone not to mention over 1,000,000 inhured and maimed.
Forward - to more Orwellian lies
Neocons = pc way of saying "blood sucking jews"
How much killing is enough? At least 5 million have been killed in Neocon wars since 1990 and at least 10 million injured and maimed. Look at the casualties in Iraq alone:
US Sponsored Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012. Killed 3.3 Million, Including 750,000 Childrenhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/us-sponsored-genocide-against-iraq-1990-201...
And not to mention the sheer costs of those Neocon wars, The Vietnam war cost only $738 billion in 2011 dollars.
US Wars in Afghanistan, Iraq to Cost $6 trillionhttp://www.globalresearch.ca/us-wars-in-afghanistan-iraq-to-cost-6-trill...
"How much killing is enough?" Putin will let us know when he's finished.
Should I downvote myself or just wait for all the St.Pooty sychophants to do it for me? ;-)
"US Has Killed More Than 20 Million People in 37 “Victim Nations” Since World War II"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-killed-more-than-20-million-people-i...
...just sayin'
So you're saying the US has the opportunity to catch up to Russia or China?
lol, no one catching up with Jews that's for sure.
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.644138
Quoting Tyler:
"Unfortunately, we probably should “give up” on Libya, because the power vacuum created by Gaddafi’s fall has turned the country into a lawless wasteland and a breeding ground for ISIS."
In other words, this exactly the outcome the USSA was trying to achieve, creating chaos and ISUS.
Hillery's platform is impressive:
1) higher middle class taxes;
2) expanded gubmint;
3) moar war;
4) broader entitlements and,
5) opener borders for moar illegals and H1B visa workers.
What's not to like?
@ Handful of Dust:
Seems like every Politician runs on that platform...if you're looking for a good reason to vote for "Anyone but Hillary", look no further than this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y
"We came, we saw, he died....ha ha ha ha".
Regardless of personal views, anyone who laughs about killing someone is fucking mental.
Qaddafi's case is good example for the rest of the world rulers, once you give up nuclear blueprint to US, get ready for the slaughter house.
See Something Slay Something
How many people did Hillary kill in Libya which is now a failed state.
I can't even believe she is running.
Over at their crazy hideout democratic underground they banned a longtime poster
for saying he won't vote for Hillary.
Her supporters are crazy lesbians like blacklivesmatter.
note Hillary fist
http://media2.fdncms.com/atlanta/imager/u/original/15695798/screen_shot_...
Note Obama's mother with black fist
Was this code to black people, he released it ya know.
https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/obama-with-mom-at-...
The blunder Saddam did was, he threatened Israel without atomic assets. If Saddam had nuclear thing, world could have been a very different place today. Probably a peaceful place.
Putin speaks the truth while Obama sits in a locked clubhouse on a golf course in Hawaii sucking Bobby Titcomb's dick and licking his browneye.
"'Outsiders forcing change of legitimate powers in other countries is intolerable,' Putin told Rossiya TV."
Better decades Vlad than never, they say.
Satan Clause is coming to town. Slay ride!
No, I'm saying that the current crop of American citizens knows so little about history as to let it repeat itself, and are doing nothing to stop it, despite the modern means of communication they dominate - instead, sharing stories about celebrities and sports and entertainment.
Well then yes, very few take the time to learn anything about or from history and react to the moment.
Russia’s Biggest Threat Is The Promethean Strategy: Can Putin keep the Intermarium in check?
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=27123
"Prometheism: The Backbone of the NWO Strategy to Isolate and Conquer Russia"
"we're not entirely sure one can classify the rather rapid and aggressive deployment in Syria as being conducted with "maximum caution""
Ah the good old PC weaselwords so appropriate for MSM journalists
A Tunisian national told me that when Qaddafi was ousted, Indian, Bangladeshi and African workers in oil fields were immediately replaced by french nationals.
Things are not what they seem to be here. Russia’s action may be rash and dangerous. It may fail, especially as we are obviously trying so hard to undermine it. But at least it is honest and straightforward
I have a soft spot in my heart for the Poles, who've been kicked around a lot over the last few centuries, but "Prometheism" is just a fantasy.
The Poles have an impressive history, but their culture and economy is just not weighty enough to serve as the nucleus of a "third power", between Germany and Russia.
Why should the Czechs, Ukrainians and Baltic peoples want to orbit Warsaw? Not that Poland can't be a useful servant to its current master, as the USA pokes the Russian bear with proverbial sticks.
How can anyone down vote that statement? Sheeesh!
Russia since WWII?
Your proof and statistics Russian Federation?
or you mean Soviet USSR?
which was never a Russian construct.
Even Krushchev and Breznev were Ukrainian nationals
and Gorby half Ukrainian
so Russian Federation, now for Russians...what numbers you come up with now?
Can't be honest who were real murderers of Russians?
"
When painting US hurrah-patriot fabled version of history, honesty is precluded.
You going pre-internet new age of enlightenment or post?
@mnewn
"So you're saying the US has the opportunity to catch up to Russia or China?"
You must be referring to the genocide inside Russia and China. Those were foreign coup operations financed by "Wallstreet."
For the info you need on Russia, see the awesome book 'Wallstreet and the Bolshevik Revolution' by Anthony Sutton -- Free .pdf copy here https://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik... or find it on Amazon.
For China you can learn more with the book "The Shadows of Power" By James Perloff.
You should read these immediatly, especially the Sutton book.
Only the jewboys are anti-putin. Cause he's like.... fucking with your plans and shit. And he like, betrayed you and shit. It's ok for jews to betray EVERYONE but when a goyim does it, he's evil.
...and only covert jews care more about the middle east than the nation they live in.
By Jews you mean like Yuri Kovalchuck, Vladimir Yakunin, the Rotenbergs or who?
Vlad's up to his ass in Jews, boi ;-)
He's not much concerned, they all have guns pointed at the backs of their heads ;)
Notice how quite Putins jews have been over the last few months ? even khodorkovsky is keeping his name out of the MSM :D. He still trying to cause a problem or 2 but he also knows that he has no safe house ;)
And that was really my only point to this Ali-Idiot character, it's not Putin against da Jews at all.
He's doing what he's doing for the national interests of Russia, nothing more nothing less. And if he twists Obama's & Kerry's titties while doing it, so much the better as far as I'm concerned...lol.
But Putin is no White Knight.
There are no White Knights in Russia ;D It's always been that you look after yourself and family first and if that should be a little corruption or smuggling then so be it ;D
He's doing what he's doing for the national interests of Russia
It's why he has so much support, even in the villages they know that the times need a player. The pension decision last week didn't go down well ;) but all know that you cannot mend the house while you need to spend all of your time guarding the fence.
Yeah maybe, I know there's a different mindset of whats "legal or just" and whats not and really thats all I'm trying to prevent being imported here, without much luck I might add...lol.
Could be, hope springs eternal I guess.
But like Bush the First (CIA) I'll keep my cards right where they are for the time being concerning Putin the First (KGB) if its all the same to everyone else.
Putin is a megalomaniac, it is all about his legacy, no doubt, but he pales in comparison with any ex President of the United States, those bastards have been right down devil spawns, I trust Putin because of his quest for a great legacy, hes fruits and the way to go about them shows, he wantd to e remembered as the saviour, so he shows restraint, easily he could fuck things up for teh US everywhere, by arming "rebels" training them, etc....
The only hope the united States has is Putin, without him, the US will not get the shake it needs. I did downvote you, because your comment was complete BS, since Putin has been trying to do contrary to what the US jhas been doing so as to show the world who they are dealing with and make a geopolitcal shift, which is what he wants.
You jews are very proud of it. Unlike the rest of the folk here, I believe Putin would easily fall to the Jues if they wanted him to. But utimately, juden want a nuclear war to clean up Russia and USA populations - leaving them to clear out the M.E and become the next superpower. Their job will not be complete if there were 2 christian superpowers in the world.
You jews win. You will enslave humanity and have 2800 slaves each. Good for you. Nobody left to stop you sucking blood from baby penises
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.644138
Anyway, I'm just gonna sit on my donkey and wait for Jesus.
You reap what you sew. Your hateful spittle can be observed in your fearful beliefs that the Jews, to which you ascribe super human qualities of domination, is the height of absurdity.
So, sow and sew, 3 different words, 3 different meanings.
Your ignorance of jew domination in the media and the central bank is astounding, but not surprising.
you were born in the wrong time ali_baba you would've been quite happy dropping the gas pills in the chambers at auschwitz you prick.
I didn't junk you nmewn, but do you support 'merica's intervention policy? If not, can you identify who or what might cause it to slow down?
To your first question, no I never have. To your second, ending debt-based money printing for war & welfare and yanking our military bases out of the EU.
From my layman's point of view, the EU countries may very well prefer to see "NATO" military bases pack up and go home. That will never be permitted because ot the debt money petro dollar. Without that, USSA ponzi will fall apart so the occupation must continue and expand.
The biggest risk of a serious push-back is from Russia and their extensive nuke arsenal, that's why they are in 'Murika's sights as public enemy no. 1. IMHO the lion's share of popularity attributed to Putin stems from that.
I'd probably think of it differently if the north american continent was surrounded by Russian military bases and puppet countries pushing/demanding to change a bunch of regimes to preserve a ruble dollar, but that is not the case at all. (It's the exact opposite and has been for a long time)
Well from my perspective (an American taxpayer) the Warsaw Pact is a thing of the past, so there really is no need for a NATO in order to provide some "security blanket" for the socialistic nations of the EU.
"If they like their socialism, they can keep it!"...to coin a phrase...lol.
Along with everything "national sovereignty" entails ;-)
Right. NATO military bases are protecting only one thing...the us dollah and Murika's gunboat financial tricks! TPTB are willing to kill anybody and everbody that goes against that for freedom and democracy!
(including you Europeans under the "protective" cloak of uncle scam lol...just utter the suggestion of leaving NATO you terrists, you'll find out in a hurry. That's the fear against Russia...where could they look safety after telling a fine and benevolent uncle scam to get fucked?)
mnewn, and chunga, just as a reminder France left NATO, once. as often, I have to point out here that it's not the business of other countries to push one country out of alliances, clubs and so on
if you want the US out of NATO... well, that's a US internal political matter. a US decision
we'd just go on, btw. if spending is a guide, the 28 members of the eu spend three times what Russia spends for military... and it's a Russia that has it's eyes south, not west, while currently lacking an ideology of "liberation" of other countries... except, perhaps, the Baltics, Finland, Ukraine, as Poland and the other former Soviet Satellites are busy pointing out
and if you are so busy deconstructing internet memes, how about being a bit more factual about all this "socialist" EU countries?
how socialist are our repeated and current attempts in the eurozone at balanced budgets? aka "dreaded austerity"? just saying, some stuff about "socialism" are measurable
This thread died on the vine...I had to look it up about France leaving NATO because I didn't know that. That was in the 60's and I wonder if that could happen again like that.
As far as cracks about socialism, I personally can't get too enthused about "ism" debates because I believe those terms/definitions are obsolete. Capitalism is often praised as best by some with the word "crony" thrown in front of it to explain away it's bad parts.
After the fall of the USSR the leaders of the US professed help and cooperation with Russia holding out the hand of friendship. Unfortunately that hand of friendship was a false one that has been incrementally proven. Now the Russians find themselves attacked financially with US/NATO installations on their borders almost as complete as Iran.
Who, besides ISIS, has Russia bombed?
Many suspect Russia of having bombed their own apartment buildings in Russia to promote "a war on terror".
But lets not get bogged down in conspiracy theories ;-)