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Presenting The Stunning Difference In How Blacks And Whites Are Killed By Guns

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If one were asked to name the top five issues on America’s collective mind as we head into 2016, gun violence would almost certainly make the list. 

A string of incidents that culminated in the massacre in San Bernardino earlier this month has put gun control back in the limelight as the nation debates the best way to prevent mass shootings. 

Some suggest gun violence should be a designated as a public health issue. “Supporters, including doctors and medical associations, say that designating gun violence – which they define to include homicides, suicides and injuries – as a public health issue will save lives,” US News & World Report wrote over the summer. “Doctors already counsel patients about a range of safety issues, including avoiding lead paint, wearing seatbelts, getting vaccinated and dealing with the dangers of backyard pools. If the designation were to change, they could more often ask patients about whether they keep a gun in the home and, if so, how it is secured.”

That rather surreal sounding idea is in many ways reflective of how frustrated America has become with the issue. The right to keep and bear arms is not only enshrined in the Constitution, it’s also part of the country’s consciousness and identity - even most gun control advocates would likely be loath to see citizens’ gun rights curtailed wholesale. Even so, the perception that gun violence is on the rise and the nation is powerless to stop it has led some to question whether it may be time to consider taking a more drastic approach when it comes to limiting access to firearms. 

What gets lost in the debate is the fact that when it comes to gun violence, mass shootings really aren’t the problem. That is, as horrific as they are and as often as they seem to be occurring, “less than 2 percent of more than 33,000 gun deaths in [America] are due to mass shootings,” Trace wrote, earlier this month. 

"The gun control debate often plays out in monolithic fashion in this country," WaPo writes, adding that "the traditional understanding is that there's one overarching problem — gun violence — that can be addressed by a more or less uniform set of solutions: better background checks, improved technology, etc." 

However, "one shortcoming of this approach is that it elides over the sometimes drastic differences in how different populations experience gun violence and gun ownership in their lives." WaPo goes on to present the following rather stunning chart from The Brookings Institute. As you can see, there's a marked difference between how African Americans and whites are killed by firearms. More specifically, "among whites, 77 percent of gun deaths are suicides. But among black Americans, 82 percent of gun deaths are homicides."

Consider that, then consider the following chart which depicts parents' perceptions of the risks their children face. We present it below and leave the issue for readers to discuss:

 

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Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:07 | 6950782 Newsboy
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I support the right to unassisted suicide, but not homocide.

I'm not sure there is a legislative solution to this discrepancy.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:10 | 6950800 HedgeAccordingly
Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:18 | 6950830 InjectTheVenom
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i just cannot wait to see how the liberal Huff Post anti-2A hopey-changey heads-up-their-fat-asses douchebags try to spin these stats . . . 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:32 | 6950876 Occident Mortal
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Black parents are justifiably concerned about their kids getting shot?

White parents are justifiably concerned about their kids getting depressed and shooting themselves in the face?

What am I missing?

Are the white kids feeling sad and murdering the black kids then shooting themselves? Is that the story here?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:37 | 6950898 RonArgent
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It just shows that whites have been victimized to the constant racism and hatred perpetuated against them since pre-school by our jew masters.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:54 | 6950934 stacking12321
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i like how they classify getting shot by a goddamned pig as "legal intervention"

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:01 | 6950950 SWRichmond
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Presenting The Stunning Difference In How Blacks And Whites Are Killed By Guns

You of course mean "killed with guns".

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:03 | 6950954 quintago
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Hmm, and I thought the only difference was the 90 degree difference in wrist angle.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:11 | 6950977 The Juggernaut
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Interesting how the gov't wants to disarm USA citizens but arm rebels in different countries.  The USA gov't must think some external country will arm USA citizens when the rebels come home!

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:01 | 6951121 DownWithYogaPants
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All this is quite understandable if you have ever been incessantly nagged.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:10 | 6951153 TruxtonSpangler
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Therefore all blacks will be on the no fly list?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:23 | 6951637 xavi1951
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Take guns away from blacks and that will solve the issue for them.  What?  They would just get the illegally?  Darn!

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 00:37 | 6951809 Stainless Steel Rat
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The secret to ambition is to have the unhappy gene...

(or the mutated MTHFR gene as Samuel L Jackson would say... recipe for depression)

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 10:57 | 6952581 Manthong
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Face it.. we do not have a gun problem.. we have a black problem and a growing Hispanic one.

Mostly on the streets of the cities, but evident almost everywhere except in the enclaves in which the elite shelter themselves.

Particularly now we have a semi-black problem (can’t use the term “islamic terrorist”) in the semi-white house, the cabinet and myriad appointed positions.

Trump can fix that pretty quick.

As Dizzy Dean might have said "It ain't racist if reality backs it up."

To be fair, the problem really originated with LBJ when he made responsible fatherhood optional and single motherhood affordable… first in the black community, and now with the help of all his successors, everywhere.

Oh and for the busload of Bozo’s that didn’t like my comments on the Maloney and Molyneux thread, a little something for you.. but it might be too complex for you all to understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hyQDQPEsrs

 

“Gun control... an illusion masked by a deception”
-Stephan Molyneux

 

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 11:29 | 6952740 plane jain
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Curious...

re:responsible fatherhood

Would you support wage garnishment to support one's proven biological children?

You breed it, you feed it?

That would still likely be insufficient in a lot of cases due to the parents being low wage and/or working under the table.

A lot of resentment here for unwed mothers receiving government support.

Problem is the children are innocent parties and if they don't receive support and education not only do they suffer, they tend to continue the same cycle once they are reproductive age.

Ideally we would go back to something like the 50's where every kid has a mom and dad at home, and the family can live on the wages of one parent so one can be dedicated to childcare and keeping house.

But I don't see that happening.

I could see some type of mandatory long term reversible birth control so that people that really choose to have a child (not an accident) have to go through a training program to get a license (like getting your driver's license) and have their birth control reversed. Would be much better for children IMO.

But I don't see that happening either. Because we as a society give lip service to caring about children while our laws and actions obviously prioritize adults (legal abortion, pathetic understaffing/lack of training for CPS, spending on Social Security and Medicare vs. childrens programs, etc.)

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 16:03 | 6953828 Manthong
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When morality and responsibility were a part of western culture, stigma and shame were used to discourage promiscuity and single motherhood.

Birth control, abortion and EBT supplanted that.

Women and family were controlling factors and helped civilize men.

No more.. an irresponsible and greedy State changed the game.

As far as I am concerned, a woman is free to screw the entire NFL and reproduce or kill her unborn “biomasses”  all she wants.

JUST DO NOT EXPECT ME TO F’N PAY FOR HER WRONGHEADEDNESS AND MISTAKES.

You might want to explore the concepts of “deserving” and “undeserving” poor.

The widow with 4 kids whose husband was killed in a coal mining accident might be deserving.

The black wildebeest welfare breeder with 5 kids from 5 different men certainly is not.

The kids should be taken away and put in foster care where they might have a chance to live a decent life.

The woman should be put out on her own to fare for herself.

There needs to be consequences for bad behavior.

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 15:58 | 6953815 WOAR
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I'm a big fan of Stephan. He's right on for a vast majority of issues.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:24 | 6951644 zeronetwork
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why charts are in color? why not in black ,white and gray? racists.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:17 | 6951620 TBT or not TBT
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180 degrees, or pi, in radians. 

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 09:27 | 6952298 Pool Shark
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By 90-degrees, I think he's referring to 'gansta' style.

[Nobody ever taught them to hold a handgun...]

 

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:19 | 6951177 83_vf_1100_c
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"ceased life functions due to kinetic action via a handheld device' is a more PC way of putting it.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:20 | 6951624 TBT or not TBT
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You mean ceased life dysfunction, shirley?  

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 01:46 | 6951924 OldPhart
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Don't call me surely.

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 04:40 | 6952038 bozoklown
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Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:12 | 6951155 FireBrander
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"Are the white kids feeling sad and murdering the black kids then shooting themselves? Is that the story here?"

WTF? How did you come up with that? /SARC? I fucken hope so?

Mass Shooters: People with mental issues and access to guns. Take away the guns and they still have mental issues and access to cars and online instructions to build "things" like in San Bern...Not that Nutjobs should have access to guns.

White Suicides: Miss Teen-USA thought of killing herself because she lost a pageant..."Business Owner" killed his family and then himself because he was bankrupt...whites are mentally ill narcissists with guns that kill themselves over stupid shit.

Black Gun Deaths: Just emulating what Hollywood serves up as cool. The greatest enemy of the "Black Community" are those "Black Folks" in Hollywood GETTING FILTHY FUCKING RICH off their "Brothers" by convincing them being a "Gangsta" is what chu got to be to "make it" if you be black.

For you White Cracker Fucks that don't know the term "Gangsta"...

Urban Dictionary: "Gangsta"

"Yo, this gangsta loses his cheeba out his jeans, an' he thinks somebody snatched it, so he tries to cap my holmes wit a 9 and miss all 10 rounds. Killed two girls in tha' playground, though - that nigga be gang-sta as fuck, yo."

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gangsta

 

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:42 | 6951280 claytonmoore50
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Flame on, Fool!

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 08:30 | 6952167 Refuse-Resist
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Typical nigger response to black violence: dey dindu nuffins.  Always trying to remove accountability. Everything the dindus do is because of relentless white racism all the time everywhere and that explains everything.

Why can a nigger call me a white cracker fuck (my ancestors on either side never owned a slave, but they were southerners and fought against the yankee invaders and their tyranny) but I am not supposed to call him a stupid nigger?

I'm tired of PC. I call a spade a spade.  Hey Sam Spade: Fuck off.

I have a chronic case of  Negro Fatigue:

Do you have NEGRO FATIGUE?

Negro Fatigue, or NF, is one of the fastest-growing chronic fatigue syndromes. Month by month, the number of people who are experiencing the symptoms of NF is growing. It affects primarily white people and Asians, mostly between the ages of 25 and 55, although anyone can experience it. City-dwellers are more likely than rural inhabitants to display its symptoms, but NF can strike any white person of any age or locale at any time.

Are you among those suffering from NF? Know these warning signs:

1. Increased blood pressure when in the presence of Negroes, or when viewing images of Negroes on TV or in print

2. Lack of concern with what Negroes want, deserve, think, or feel

3. Diminished patience with behaviors typical of Negroes, e.g., talking loudly in public, crotch-grabbing, ruining theatrical movies etc.

4. Increased awareness of the number of Negroes in one’s immediate environment

5. Hyper-alertness when encountering Negroes in public

6. Lack of desire to view or listen to Negro music, video programming, motion pictures, or other entertainments

7. Anomalous behavior (e.g., walking away in mid-sentence) when conversing with other white people who seem concerned with the welfare of Negroes

8. Decreased resistance to using the “N-Word”

9. Increased feeling of annoyance when encountering the term “N-word”

10. Scrupulous avoidance of contact with Negroes at work, school, shops, etc.

11. Hatred or cold indifference toward professional and collegiate sports, especially basketball; increased interest in “white” sports such as hockey, swimming, etc.

12. Sudden lack of shame in “white” behaviors (e.g. earning a living, abiding by the law, monogamous marriage, wearing Dockers, etc.)

13. YOU A RACISS!

If you exhibit any or all of these symptoms, you may have Negro Fatigue. For help in living with NF, please contact your local European Self-Extinction League (ESEL) chapter, or write to:

NEGRO FATIGUE Eric H. Holder, Jr. U.S. Department of Justice 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20530-0001

 

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:26 | 6951216 Jethro
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Hahaha hahaha.  Are yu Bernie Sanders' troll account?  The predominant killer of blacks are:

Pork chops/heart disease

Smoking

 Black on black crime.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:41 | 6951274 FireBrander
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Bullshit; Porkchops never killed anyone.

Black and under 34, homicide is your greatest threat.

Black and over 34, your diet is your greatest threat...obesity....pork chops won't make you fat...corporate "food" makes you fat...

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:52 | 6951318 PrintemDano
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Blacks under 35 , black homicide is indeed their greatest threat....what you failed to mention is that that threat is almost exclusively at the hands of OTHER BLACKS.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:25 | 6951649 TBT or not TBT
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Industrial carbohydrates make you fat.  No amount of industrial pork, eaten to satiety, can do that.   Carbohydrates are optional, not essential, in human nutrition.   

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:27 | 6951219 seek
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"i just cannot wait to see how the liberal Huff Post anti-2A hopey-changey heads-up-their-fat-asses douchebags try to spin these stats . . . "

They don't. That's their spin. The entire messaging absolutely depends on the world thinking that the number of homicides is huge and completely random, that yes, you, Mrs. CaucasianSoccerMom, are just a heartbeat away from being a statistic.

Sad as it may be, if it were widely known that the majority of homicides were criminals killing criminals (especially black gang members killing other black gang members) there would be far less support for gun control -- and we're already in an environment where support is growing pretty thin as it is.

The anti-2A crowd is absolutely dependent on a misinformed and emotional, reactionary electorate, which is why they lie and issue such deceptive statements. Nearly everything they support crumbles like a house of cards once you start pulling out hard data and explain the mechanism behind the numbers. I just love pulling out the blunt weapon stats whenever I see an argument over banning so-called "assault weapons."

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:14 | 6951608 Kobe Beef
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> Ban Guns

> Ban Negroes

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 10:51 | 6952571 Croesus
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@ Kobe Beef: 

That's a no-brainer. The votes prove it. 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:56 | 6951343 ISEEIT
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Same way they 'spin' nearly any other bit of data which obliterates the leftist/communist/progressive 'narrative'.

Ignore it.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:02 | 6951371 Dr. Bonzo
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They ignore them then pull out OECD comparisons and scream how bizarre and inately violent we are, drawing a highly valid cross cultural comparison between say.... Southside Chicago and comparing it to.... a Senior Center in Ibaraki, Japan.

See? We're dangerous.

Wed, 12/23/2015 - 01:14 | 6955457 Jeffersonian Liberal
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Inject the Venom...

Simple.

They'll say that blacks are driven to murder because they are so distraught by the suicide rate of whites.

The blacks then become the victims of white behavior.

The white suicide rate (taking the easy way out) will be seen as another type of "white privilege."

Somewhere along the line, they'll seek economic and social justice for this imbalance, for the "attacks on blacks due to this white easy-way-out privilege" by a monetary settlement brokered by Jesse "the Shakedown Massa" Jackson and Al "the Drowned Rat" Sharpton.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:20 | 6950844 Luck Dragon
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The interesting thing about gun control is, people want other people with guns, to come and take yours away. It has nothing to do with guns, they just don't want YOU having guns.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:15 | 6951169 FireBrander
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Banning guns is like banning drugs...good luck with that...we banned drugs and the only people that don't use drugs are the same people that wouldn't use them if they're legal...unless thier doctor "prescribed" them....

 

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 01:51 | 6951933 OldPhart
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Hell, I've been prescribed and STILL don't take them.  Can't function with pain pills messing with your head.  Better off to grit my teeth and deal with it ... and ingest liberal alcohol solutions to help ease me to sleep.

Beside, Vicoden makes my beer taste funny.

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 09:03 | 6952222 venturen
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I suspect most of those sucside deaths involve taking drugs...legal or illegal

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 08:55 | 6952204 overmedicatedun...
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if you own a gun and never kill - did you ever own a gun?

"some people just need killin" will penny

" you shot an unarmed man!, ans: he shoulda armed himself" will penny.

when seconds count the cops are minutes away or where's the cop when you need him?

at the gun range yesterday, everyone was a white man, mostly shooting AR's, me I execised my 1911. my son his 12 g with deer slugs.-

thank the lord gang banging blacks don't seem to go in for target practice.

the study on guns you will never read:

the millions and millions of guns that never harmed a human,

"an analysis of why so few guns in public hands are ever used for crime"

nobody wants to know why those guns never committed any crime..

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:14 | 6950820 dchang0
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There's no discrepancy. If an individual is indeed sovereign over himself or herself, then suicide is 100% okay and not within the jurisdiction of the state. Murder (not necessarily homicide--the two terms are slightly different) is always bad because one or more persons overrides the individual sovereignty of the victim.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:39 | 6950854 nmewn
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Sooo, ummm, the silence from #BlackLivesMatter is absolutely deafening regarding Zaevion Dobson's death.

////

Bonus!

I finally found that video that Hillary! was yakking about ISIS using as "a recruitment tool" that supposedly pictures Trump...check it out...fiddy seconds in...

http://www.progressivestoday.com/has-hillary-seen-the-isis-recruitment-v...

...Trump looks a lot like Bubba in it though...lmmfao!!!

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:03 | 6951132 janus
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thanks for the link, NmewN...and seein how we've been cyber buddies for a while now, i really hate to do this to ya, but, well -- it's like this:

after watching the video, the temptation to join isis was more than i could resist.  i've since signed my whole family up and we are packing, prepping and praying for jihad.  sad to say, but mrs. janus is a kill-joy and steadfastly refuses to join in my enthusiasm.  i mean, if she were getting 72 virgins, i'd be happy for her.  women!  am i right?

but as for you, mr. terrorist recruiter, you've been reported to DHS for successfully indoctrinating my whole family to the global caliphate.  it was more than i could resist...the 72 virgins, the slick graphics, the opportunity to bond in cramped quarters with sweaty & swarthy religious nuts hopped up on captagon...what's not to love?  besides, any organization that promotes pan-culturalism under the rubric of rabid fundamentalism to effect the end of all nationalism and individualism (not unlike, i dunno, communism), is the place for janus!

janus 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:42 | 6951506 nmewn
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lol...Merry Christmas to ya janus!

Not everyone can appreciate the nerve twitching rawness of Southern humor, I think a few developed a facial tic with that one ;-)

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 00:19 | 6951782 janus
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poe's law in action, mi amigo.  but fuck if i care what the newbies think.  they'll learn who's who and what's what as time progressess along with their understanding and sophistication.

attention all neophytes and such-like: janus makes joe mccarthy look like a pink-o trotskyite.  i patented the 'saul alinsky pinata' back before anybody in georgia knew how to say 'hola', or 'pinata' for that matter.  the red scare still frieghtens me.  and, most importantly, i'm about the furthest thing from a muslim terrirst you'll ever meet, in cyber-space or otherwise.

i'm cornball old-fashioned in my values: God, Family & Country (in that order).  i don't intend to by that beat my chest in some boarish jingonistic spectacle...it's just what i believe, and i think it makes for great cultures, societies and nations...again, call me olde fashioned.  and, if you quit being knee-jerk/vote-happy twerps for five seconds, you may get a laugh or two outta me.

it's crazy, NmewN, in a few years we've gone from this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnb0yfzPHjE

to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45E4fWW2eaw

 ;-)

janus

Wed, 12/23/2015 - 04:17 | 6955637 Gavrikon
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"Country."

What's that?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:05 | 6951137 StateofFraud
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Funny, and Bubba's used to illustrate "fornicators". Rich!

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:38 | 6950870 Urban Redneck
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There is no legislative solution in the United States.  Because legislation does not exist in a vacuum.  It exists in the context of not only the national carters, but also in the context of hundreds of thousands of pages of statutory law, millions of pages of administrative law, tens of millions of pages of judicial precedent, and a bunch of treaties (generally all geared towards the march of fascism).  The only legislative solution is to throw everything out and to start over from scratch.

Gun grabbers are the same everywhere.  Where I live they figured out a while a back that they had to step up their fascist bullshit (even without the protections of a Second Amendment).  And now they make people go to the polls every few years and vote down their silly (but dangerous) gun grabbing attempts masked as "protecting the people from their (suicidal) selves".  I would fully expect the debate in USSA to eventually follow suit.  "For the children..." will be expanded to "For the Old Timers (Alzheimer's)..." with an unhealthy dose of teen suicide sob stories thrown in for added effect.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:04 | 6951378 ISEEIT
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 "It exists in the context of not only the national carters"

You mean cartels, right?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:11 | 6951406 Urban Redneck
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actually... charters, e.g. the Constitution (as amended).  Thanks

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:39 | 6951267 Dreadker
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"Note: Whites and blacks include only those who are not Hispanic"

 

So does that mean every other race is considered White or Black now?  Or is every other race considered Hispanic...  I can tell you now that if you call any of my Native friends White, Black or Hispanic, you'll get shot... is there a stat for that?

 

Number of white people shot by their Native friends for calling them White, Black or Hispanic: 1

 

lol

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:52 | 6951421 Miss Expectations
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.

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:16 | 6951424 shovelhead
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I call em wagon-burners.

They like that.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:42 | 6951276 snodgrass
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The Soviet Union was run from New York and England. A bunch of Jews and a negro were sent to Russia to cause an uprising with money from Jews and with the blessing of Woodrow Wilson. After a bloody revolution, the Jews murdered at least 20 million and possibly 60 million people. Who knows how many other people they murdered in other countries that tried communism.Pol Pot wiped out about 1/3 to 1/2 of the population of Cambodia. Mao is estimated to have murdered 85 million.

In America they didn't want to try a revolution because there was an armed population and a stable middle class. So instead they took over people's minds by infecting the educational system and the media. Once they disarm Americans, the genocide will begin. Do you get it?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:18 | 6951431 shovelhead
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What happened to the moolie?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:05 | 6951380 MrNosey
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False Flag Attacks and the War on Peoples Minds - The Gun Grab Agenda is Real......

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/false-flag-attacks-...

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:56 | 6951550 Sanity Bear
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please wash your hands after upvoting yourself

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:06 | 6951579 Kirk2NCC1701
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Ah, but isn't Suicide a "Mortal Sin"?  The Church said so. So it must be true.

Just like everything else they said.  "Now repent and pay up, and sing a happy song, to make you feel better on the way out."

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:08 | 6950783 Hapte
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Hahahahahaha

White Genocide, huh Freddie?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:10 | 6950801 sam i am
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Crimea – the Way back home, with a introduction by Auslander video with eng subtitles

http://thesaker.is/crimea-the-way-back-home-with-a-introduction-by-ausla...

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:11 | 6950786 hotrod
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If one deducts black on black gang killings and white suicide then gun crime is quite LOW. Gun owners should not held accountable for these stats.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:31 | 6950882 Cycle
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Nail, hammer, bang!

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:53 | 6950930 newworldorder
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The black community will Never accept black on black crime as a problem they have to fix within their community.

It is not black peoples fault, under the rationale, that blacks are held down by white society and they unfortunately have to resort to crime.

Denial is a powerfull human, cultural, ethnic and racial emotion that is always used to blame someone else by evading resposnsibility for ones actions.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:18 | 6951000 DanDaley
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...that is always used to blame someone else by evading resposnsibility for ones actions.

 

The fancy term is external locus of control, and is particularly prevalent in irresponsible children, teens, and adults of all shapes, colors, and sizes.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:08 | 6951144 Parabolic Sine
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Just about every ethnic background tells blacks its whitey's fault for all of their problems.  Except for asians and latinos, they're wise enough to know the real reason.  Yes, blacks should look from within to change whatever culture they want to have separate of the american culture, but when you have white talking heads telling them its whitey's fault, I can see why they remain ignorant.  

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:52 | 6951728 newworldorder
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Hint for you It is called the DEMOCRATIC PARTY PLANTATION that controls political action in major cities with substanctial minority populations. 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:29 | 6951214 FireBrander
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White people have FUCKED black people over royally...but have backed off some in the last 50 years...now it's black people fucking black people over royally...witness Obama...witness Chitcago..witness Philthydelphia...

Us White folks wanted to be seperate of Civil Rights Era Blacks...shit, looking back on those "blacks", I miss them! Compare today's "Black Community" to the Civil Rights Era "Black Community"...I'd swap a million ~1950's blacks for a million 2015 Whites with pleasure...

1950 = Blacks protesting/fighting to GET INTO WHITE SCHOOLS!

2015 = "Lernin is for chumps"

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:24 | 6951439 ISEEIT
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I largely agree with your observation, I would also add that many minorities have been exploited by the democratic party with absolute intention. This is just a politics 101 deal. If you're gunna run a criminal organization you learn to target vunerable groups,

In politics 102 you learn the value of creating such groups (harvesting).

The 'people' 'running' the world today are not the sort of 'people' that healthy human beings ought to admire.

I edit to add this what should be obvious fact..

The GOP is scary. You have some pretty strange shit going on. I believe that trump is a stooge. Absolutely that billary/killery is a bush product and that things aren't lookin' to good for the people living in america.

Wed, 12/23/2015 - 04:20 | 6955639 Gavrikon
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"Denial is a powerful human, cultural, ethnic and racial emotion that is always used to blame someone else by evading resposnsibility for ones actions."

Also non-human, as evidenced by how often blacks use it.

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:22 | 6951017 DanDaley
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Take out the 10 most violent US cities (socialist hell-holes, every one) from the stats, and you have one of the least violent nations on the planet. Solution: outlaw liberals/statists/socialists/collectivists. Problem solved.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:34 | 6951246 FireBrander
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Be thankful for those "Socialist Hell-Holes"...without them, all of those violent criminals would be in your Rightwingnut city jails and you'd have to pay a lot more in, gasp, taxes to keep them seperate from you...

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:31 | 6951469 shovelhead
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You misunderstand.

They wouldn't be there for long at all in a "Rightwingnut city". They would be pushing up daisies with their white brothers in crime.

It would be a strictly Leftwingnut problem.

Not to mention the costs of all those Self-esteem education classes, Kumbaya songbooks and drum circles.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:31 | 6951472 ISEEIT
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And don't forget...If ya don't stop using gasoline (oil) and whatnot...

The 'scientist' all say that yer gunna die!!

Shit...these f'ing republiturds don't even belive in climate change..

They be so stupid and shit they be not even knowin' what is is..

Dumb ass racist dumasses.

Shiiit.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:58 | 6951109 NoPension
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Dateline Baltimore;

Can't prove it, but I have no doubt the strategy in the City is to let the gangbangers weed themselves out. When the enemy is killing each other, Do Not get in their way.
The ones getting shot, for the most part, are just the ones that are overwhelming the system and need to be eliminated.

Wait around the corner 20 minutes, until the shooting stops.
Scoot in with lights and sirens.
Pack up body, make chalk outline, set up little Carl's Jr table markers over empty shells. Take pictures.
Call it a day.

When they finish weeding out the bulk, if and when it calms down, either live with the balance or drop the hammer on the survivors.

But, as Iraq and Libya have shown, when the baddest of the bad asses get the war zone under control, let them alone. Let a few sell the dope and keep the peace.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:06 | 6951388 CapnJackDaniel
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One of things I like about ZH is that everyone on here is smart enough to not try and cherry pick data. That aside, gun crime is not 'low' in America. It's much, much higher than anywhere else. And you know why. That's a statement, not a question. You know, admit it. You've got more guns than anyone else and more sense of 'freedom' to use them than anyone else. You shoot each other with abandon. And everyone, anyone stateside I ask about why they have a gun, all says it's the same resaon: protection. That's another word for fear. You're all terrified of each other. And rightly so: you're all armed, nervous, pumped full of sugar and going broke. If I lived in CONUS I'd want 'protection' too. Flame away. 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:34 | 6951480 shovelhead
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Why bother to flame?

There's no pride in beating up a retard.

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 07:26 | 6952112 Bytor325
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And if I wasn't allowed to eat candy, I'd make fun of those that could.

If it makes you feel better to mock those whose rights are superior to yours by virtue of location, feel free serf

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 08:38 | 6952171 Refuse-Resist
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The misconception here seems to be that most gun owners are like niggers.

Right now in America, 99% of gun owners are not using their guns. 13% of Americans are committing over half the gun crime.

Then there's hispanics and arabs who are counted as white when committting a crime, but as separate races when victims.

Take away the muds and our crime rate looks like Switzerland.

 

Guns are not the problem. Uncivilized savages living in our midst is the problem and why sane people want guns.

Upvote from every private gun owning citizen who's ever had to fire a gun in anger outside of military service?

Downvote from everyone who has guns but only shoots paper targets and the like.

 

I down myself.

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:08 | 6950787 City_Of_Champyinz
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Only a politician or someone with their head stuck in the sand is surprised by this article.  There is a not a 'gun problem' in this country.  In no urban area is there a mounted KKK grand wizard galloping down MLK blvd on a white stallion while wearing flowing robes killing young black males....

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:57 | 6950943 cougar_w
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Described like makes it almost sound like a good thing.

I watched too many grade-B western movies.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:20 | 6951183 janus
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t-7SVbLjBw

president hoover's favorite movie...the action begins at 00:33

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:08 | 6950789 Proofreder
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And just how many black deaths
Are really SUICIDE BY COP ???

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:46 | 6951073 Dr. Spin
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From what I've read in many articles, so many that the F$CKing Pooch Departments can't even keep track of all of them...

It's time for a gentle reminder:  The F$CKing police are CIVILIANS!!!, no matter how many gaudy stars they wear on their collars.  If I was a military general, I'd be offended and pissed.

Just sayin"

Spoctor Din

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:09 | 6950791 HedgeAccordingly
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Many

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:12 | 6950797 knukles
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None of this would be happening if Jesus had not been a white, Christian, right wing, extremist Tea Party, conservative, Republican, gun toting, Bible loving, white wine hating, racist, warmongering, micro-aggressive, lying, free market capitalist imperialist.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:20 | 6950846 hxc
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You forgot cis scum.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:25 | 6950863 fowlerja
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Wow.. did you not eat your sunshine this morning...regretfully I will have to forward your response to a fat old white man who is coming to town... no present for you this Christmas...

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:29 | 6950875 knukles
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The only reason they want to take away your AR-15 is becuse it is black. 
                                     RACISTS!

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:41 | 6950909 GhostOfDiogenes
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I used to shoot squirrels with a 22.

Quite funny how our pussy assed nation created a plastic gun that shoots little bullets and took away the m-14.

They make such cute/diminutive noises when big stupid idiots shoot them.

Little bullets for little brains.

Give me a 7.62 all day over any of your idiots with your little no balls having cucks.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:57 | 6950944 didthatreallyhappen
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.308 ftw

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:08 | 6951401 PrintemDano
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But Mr McJagger made me Paint it Black.

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:30 | 6950879 Who was that ma...
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Nascar fan.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:07 | 6950964 zipit
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Oh no you did-int go there?!  MA!!  Can we get some muscle over here?!

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:11 | 6950804 Lucky Leprachaun
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The whole point about banning guns is that criminals will be able to get them anyway. Therefore banning guns in effect means disarming the law-abiding population.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:13 | 6950814 WTFRLY
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When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:15 | 6950989 IridiumRebel
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No shit to you both but liberals believe if you fucking think (which is horseshit) like they do then unicorn cock for all!

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:17 | 6950998 CAPT DRAKE
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Thats the point.  The government wants to disarm us so we have no means to resist the selected criminal element.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:12 | 6951160 Oldwood
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It's an excuse, a rationalized lie to (like always) fear up "the masses" to allow them to remove the rights (or money) from others. Simple manipulation as it always has been.

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 09:57 | 6952385 Sanity Bear
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widespread private gun ownership is inconvenient to the government, it makes killing off the population en masse a more difficult play than they think it should be

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:33 | 6951046 newworldorder
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True. Look at Chicago's black communities. There are no gun shops and no one preventing law abidding black citizens from buying guns for protection. Problelem is the black gang banger and drug dealers who buy guns out of the trunks of sellers cars, who cater to the needs of the gangbanger.

 

That is the Truth that Black Civil Rights Leaders and Community Organizers, will not talk about.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:11 | 6950808 Bangin7GramRocks
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Whitey needs to be protected from his own guns! Boo hoo! I'm soooo sad. I need to shoot my face off. Boo hoo!

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:15 | 6950823 Proofreder
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Please

Go right ahead !

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:17 | 6950834 Shaznardickleze...
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The data says: Black lives don't matter enough to Black folks.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:17 | 6950833 Ms No
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How much of the black on black murder rate is affected by the cultural shift in black music and entertainment?  If you listen to black music prior 1980s it was positively messaged and actually really good.  Now half of it is about killin niggas, gettin yours, turning out bitches and bang bang I'mma killa. 

Which comes first the chicken or the egg?  Kids idolize and aspire to this garbage especially when they are poor and don't believe they will ever be a doctor or a lawyer.  Some of these producers are independent but many are not and especially so in the 80s when the problem started.  Being that musicians are always complaining about creative control by the industry, who started this crap? 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:28 | 6950869 Duc888
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Ms No...I agree ....kinda.  I miss Mo Town.   But there's lotsa hard core Metal that's not too cheerful too...

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:01 | 6950951 Ms No
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That's true and everybody is responsible for their own behavior but my enormous tin foil hat tells me that they may have been targeted as well.  The alphabet agency involvement with bringing crack into the inner cities (Iran Contra etc) and their links to the creation of the Crips, Bloods and Pirue all occured right around the same time their music and culture devolved in very obvious ways.

Seeing what is happening in Europe and the US right now and how it appears that populations are being targeted makes one wonder.  At the very least the US poulation is still owed an explanation for what .gov contributed to the inner city problems and how that has affected our culture and safety as a whole.  It never seemed to get better from that point on.  The music seemed to tie in with it all which may just be coincidental but maybe not. 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:35 | 6951251 armageddon addahere
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If movies, TV and music don't affect peoples behavior why do advertizers spend billions every year on movies, TV and radio ads? Why do they pay even more billions for 'product placement'?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:41 | 6951062 City_Of_Champyinz
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I agree with the statement concerning metal to some extent.  The problem with that theory is there is not an epidemic of crazed metal heads shooting up the place, anywhere...

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 08:44 | 6952182 Refuse-Resist
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How many hard core metal concerts have you attended?

What are the demographics there?

How many shootings?

Theres always the one black guy wearing the Slayer shirt at those things. He acts white. No one attacks him for being there and beign black.

The rest are white.

I've never been in a fight or shot at a death metal show.

I've worked rap shows. Big difference in safety level. Try being the only white guy there wearing a Masta P or a NWA shirt.

These two things are not equal.

People with little exposure to black culture are always the ones defending it.  The cure for that disease is a little cultural immersion.

Worked wonders on me.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:21 | 6951016 lincolnsteffens
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It is just another part of the plan to create urban rot.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:31 | 6951233 janus
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no plan needed.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:40 | 6951694 newworldorder
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The urban rot has been created since the 1970's. Only now it is inhabitted by the grandchilderen of the 1970's inhabitants. And still by the way, - its all white folks fault.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:07 | 6951140 NoPension
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It's the drugs and shit economy.

In the twenties, it was white guys doing the same thing over booze.

With the government involved and fucking things up, gangbanging is a profession now. There are NO jobs for city kids. Steel mills and manufacturing is gone. Only so many can work for the city, eh, go on the payrolls. They ain't writing code for Microsoft, and the NFL and NBA are not that big. What's a bruva supposed to do?

Edit ; CLICKBAIT!

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:18 | 6951175 Oldwood
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Yes, and lets just consider a moment HOW those criminals were apprehended. Tax evasion. AS long as the criminals pay their taxes the government could give a shit what they do, especially when the criminals are the biggest source of funding for the criminal politicians. At least the French government is more honest about it by claiming their vice as part of their GDP. Yes, it is your penis, but you didn't "build" it...the government/pharma cabal (Viagra) did.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:12 | 6951412 PrintemDano
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Who started this crap you ask?   Well as O'Brien said in the back of the Limo, the same people who invented Astroturf....the Jews.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:18 | 6950836 Barnaby
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Clearly, black people are pussies. How do they off themselves, sleeping pills?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:28 | 6950872 Who was that ma...
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Pick a fight with a white cop.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:13 | 6951417 PrintemDano
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Any Cop, black cops kill plenty of gang bangers too.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:19 | 6950838 ejmoosa
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"If one were asked to name the top five issues on America’s collective mind as we head into 2016, gun violence would almost certainly make the list."

Bullshit.

Gun Rights?  Definitely.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:22 | 6950845 stant
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Who cares , stants got a new gig to market . Sole exporter of intelliscope s to Germans. turns your iPhone Into a handy dandy targeting comupter for your ar or any other weapon. With 3d printing and new software we have reached a new age. So. ban those guns away! A new age of self defense is on its way! alla the need always finds a way.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:23 | 6950856 Barnaby
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... and Liveleak will be there when Gunter blows his fucking face off due to an error in craftsmanship.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:15 | 6950957 stant
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Well my $ iOS on Gunter . Looking forward to his IOSvolksyeagergewher2016. Just love the way germans come up with a big ole long word that means two small ones. But kicks ass

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:32 | 6951667 GhostOfDiogenes
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"Just love the way germans come up with a big ole long word that means two small ones. But kicks ass"

German languages aren't the only ones that take advantage of compound formation.

You use them too you just justify it with a hyphen.

Sanskrit, the mother of many languages on earth uses them profusely.

Not sure if modern Indian languages use them but then the original speakers of sanskrit aren't modern Indians so it really doesn't matter.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:23 | 6950859 new game
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i'd file the edges sharp on my phone and throw it (properly)...

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:26 | 6950866 Barnaby
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a Siriken?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:31 | 6950884 knukles
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Long Paper Mache Swords

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:21 | 6951184 Oldwood
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I-Phone light sabers?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:52 | 6951537 shovelhead
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They got an app for that.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:59 | 6951113 GhostOfDiogenes
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"So. ban those guns away! A new age of self defense is on its way! alla the need always finds a way."

All you need is a reciever and you are in the game.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:32 | 6950883 pipes
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Clearly, the government needs to outlaw being black.

 

Both murder, and homicide rates would obviously almost disappear overnight.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:35 | 6950890 stant
stant's picture

Well they are a extreme importer and exporter of stupid which I believe is the real problem , but I guess there's $ in it

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:36 | 6950893 MFL8240
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Blacks arent the problem, liberals and thugs are the real cause of dispair

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:15 | 6951423 PrintemDano
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Redundant, have you checked the voting statistics for blacks?  One and the same....  Liberals = Thugs= Blacks  Overwhelmingly    Gimme Dat Free Shit.....

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:38 | 6951687 Sanity Bear
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Without the black voting plantation, liberals would have no poltical power to exercise.

 

We used to joke about Soviet elections where 99% of the vote went to Stalin. But when blacks cast 99% of their votes for hard-left "Democrats", nobody blinks an eye.

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 08:46 | 6952183 Refuse-Resist
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Dey dindu nuffins.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:36 | 6950894 GhostOfDiogenes
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Good plan.

Let me know when the half Jew mullatto gets started on it.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:30 | 6951231 Zero-Hegemon
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Melanin control?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:34 | 6951676 newworldorder
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The government is more likely to ban being white. -sarc

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:33 | 6950885 tlnzz
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Conclusion: Ban black males between the ages of 10 to 30 from owning guns. We all know that will work, right? (sarc)

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:36 | 6950892 Silky Johnson
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Black people are mad at each other and white people are mad at themselves? What about the Hispanics, a little bit of both?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:24 | 6951203 Oldwood
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Well, we have been Told that it IS all OUR fault.

White Blame Matters

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:37 | 6950897 fly
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Per this article on Salon-it's the white man with guns who are the problem...and if you really want to get a feel for Black Lies Matter, read the comments. The racism against whites is palable.

"White guys are killing us: Toxic, cowardly masculinity, our unhealable national illness"

http://www.salon.com/2015/12/16/white_guys_are_killing_us_toxic_cowardly_masculinity_our_unhealable_national_illness/

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:06 | 6950961 IridiumRebel
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Caucasians are so self loathing. I suggest these folks that loathe their race follow the statistics....add to them if you will.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:47 | 6951078 City_Of_Champyinz
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That salon 'article' and the associated comments had to be one of the dumbest reads I have ever forced myself to look at.  I thought liberals were batshit crazy and stupid as hell in terms of common sense, but good lord...I may have had a mini stroke, I hope I did not lose any IQ points this evening.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:57 | 6951108 GhostOfDiogenes
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Treat all liberal propaganda as if it is radioactive.
Highly lethal, and yet can be tolerated for Short, small doses.

Detox as needed.

http://youtu.be/lEOOZDbMrgE

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:33 | 6951672 newworldorder
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I will say this.  The Salon article and how the writer sees the problems of America  is vastly different than how the wiriters and readers of ZH see the causes and solutions to those problems.

Question is: Will the two groups ever shrink the gulf that separates their views? If not, what is the alternative?

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 08:50 | 6952188 Refuse-Resist
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Then the follow up question to your excellent question is this:

Between the two distinct groups of whites (ie race cucks and the rest), who has the firepower?

I don't think too many Salon readers, especially the white variety, are also NRA members, supporters of the 2A (or BOR in generaL) or own firearms.

Meanwhile, on the other side of that 'gulf' there are millions of firearms, billions of rounds of ammunition and hundreds of thousands of trained combat veterans, hunters, and other people who enjoy shooting sports and can hit the broad side of a barn. Even old fuckers who still have fight left in them.

 

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