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Whistleblower Exposes Exactly How The Government Spies On Your Cell Phone

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Submitted by Derrick Broze via TheAntiMedia.org,

The release of a secret U.S. government catalog of cell phone surveillance devices has revealed the names and abilities of dozens of surveillance tools previously unknown to the public. The catalog shines a light on well-known devices like the Stingray and DRT box, as well as new names like Cellbrite, Yellowstone, Blackfin, Maximus, Stargrazer, and Cyberhawk.

 

The Intercept reports:

“Within the catalogue, the NSA is listed as the vendor of one device, while another was developed for use by the CIA, and another was developed for a special forces requirement. Nearly a third of the entries focus on equipment that seems to have never been described in public before.”

 

Anti Media has reported extensively on the Stingray, the brand name of a popular cell-site simulator manufactured by the Harris Corporation. The Electronic Frontier Foundation describes Stingrays as “a brand name of an IMSI (International Mobile Subscriber Identity) Catcher targeted and sold to law enforcement. A Stingray works by masquerading as a cell phone tower – to which your mobile phone sends signals to every 7 to 15 seconds whether you are on a call or not – and tricks your phone into connecting to it.”

As a result, whoever is in possession of the Stingray can figure out who, when, and to where you are calling, the precise location of every device within the range, and with some devices, even capture the content of your conversations.

Both the Harris Corp. and the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) require police to sign non-disclosure agreements (NDA) related to the use of the devices. Through these NDAs local police departments have become subordinate to Harris, and even in court cases in front of a judge, are not allowed to speak on the details of their arrangements. Due to this secrecy, very little has been known about how exactly the Stingrays work.

The bit of publicly available information was disclosed through open records requests and lawsuits filed by journalists and researchers. This new catalog provides even more detail about how the devices operate.

We already knew that Stingrays drain the battery of a targeted device, as well as raise signal strength. We also knew that as long as your phone is on, it could be targeted. Some newer details include the fact that the Stingray I and II will not work if the user is “engaged in a call.” Also, the device can gather data from phones within a 200 meter radius. And the next generation Hailstorm device is even capable of cracking encryption on the newer 4G LTE networks.

A number of the devices in the catalog are Digital Receiver Technology (DRT) boxes, also known as dirt boxes, which can be installed in planes for aerial surveillance. DRT was recently purchased by Boeing. We first learned of dirt boxes in late 2014, when the Wall Street Journal revealed a cell phone monitoring program operated by the U.S. Marshals Service, using Cessna planes mounted with Stingrays. AntiMedia has also reported on surveillance planes equipped with thermal imaging technology.

Other devices include:

  • Cellbrite: “a portable, handheld, field proven forensic system for the quick extraction and analysis of 95% cell phones, smart phones and PDA devices,” capable of extracting “information such as phone book, pictures, video, text messages, and call logs.”
  • Kingfish: a Stingray-like device that is “portable enough to be carried around in a backpack.”
  • Stargrazer: “an Army system developed to deny, degrade and/or disrupt a targeted adversary’s command and control (C2) system,” which “can jam a handset and capture its metadata at the same time it pinpoints your target’s location. But watch out — the Stargazer may jam all the other phones in the area too — including your own.”
  • Cyberhawk: which is capable of gathering “phonebook, names, SMS, media files, text, deleted SMS, calendar items and notes” from 79 cell phones.

Jennifer Lynch, a senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, told the Intercept that the use of these tools is part of the militarization of the police in the U.S.: “We’ve seen a trend in the years since 9/11 to bring sophisticated surveillance technologies that were originally designed for military use — like Stingrays or drones or biometrics — back home to the United States.”

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the FBI, NSA, and U.S. military declined to leave a comment with the Intercept regarding the catalog. Marc Raimondi, a Justice Department spokesperson, told the Intercept that the Department “uses technology in a manner that is consistent with the requirements and protections of the Constitution, including the Fourth Amendment, and applicable statutory authorities.”

The Intercept notes that Raimondi worked for Harris Corp. for six years prior to working for the DOJ.

Secrecy surrounding the use of these devices has been a contentious topic of debate for several years. Truth In Media recently reported that four members of the House Oversight Committee sent letters to 24 federal agencies including the Department of State and the Securities and Exchange Commission, demanding answers regarding policies for using the controversial surveillance technology.

House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaf­fetz, ranking member Elijah Cummings, and Reps. Will Hurd (R-Texas) and Robin Kelly (D-Ill.), as members of the committee’s IT subcommittee, issued requests for information related to the potential use of stingrays.

Chaf­fetz also recently introduced the Stingray Privacy Act, which would expand newly established warrant requirements for the Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security to all federal, state, and local agencies that use the cell-site simulators.

In September, the DHS joined the DOJ by announcing warrant requirements for the use of Stingray equipment, but those rule changes have come under fire for possible loopholes which may allow the continued use of surveillance equipment without a warrant.

“Because cell-site simulators can collect so much information from innocent people, a simple warrant for their use is not enough,” Jennifer Lynch told the Intercept. “Police officers should be required to limit their use of the device to a short and defined period of time. Officers also need to be clear in the probable cause affidavit supporting the warrant about the device’s capabilities.”

At this point, it’s painfully obvious that America is the home of the Police-Surveillance State. Awakened hearts and minds everywhere should continue to educate themselves and their communities about the dangers of these tools. We should also support initiatives to create technology that can defend against the prying eyes and ears of Big Brother. Privacy is a dying notion in a nation of fools determined to be safe rather than liberated. If you give a damn, now is the time to stand up and be heard.

 

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Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:32 | 6950682 souljaboy
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We're so done. Once you're a pickle, you can't go back to being a cucumber.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:34 | 6950687 ali_baba
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Man all those judens listening in to my calls get to hear some solid anti-juden racist shit... lucky them

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:40 | 6950691 whotookmyalias
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Founding fathers wrote a lot of very insighful things. It was intended to be a warning and an explanation for why certain things were done when the country was founded.

 

The statists have used it as a roadmap.  We've given up our liberty for a false sense of security.  In fact, we never had liberty, just a bunch of people who thought we did and others who knew how to use that false perception to their advantage.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:41 | 6950706 McMolotov
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We didn't even get free Spiderman towels.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:07 | 6950785 MsCreant
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We did get soaked though.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:13 | 6950816 pods
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Cellbrite outta be popular for kids living near Sorority houses.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:20 | 6950849 mvsjcl
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Whistleblower my ass. This "news" is even on Yahoo. This is the crap they want you to know. Imagine the capabilities of the stuff they don't want you to know.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:37 | 6951054 buzzkillb
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I talked to a friend, an engineer, and what he told me this all sounds about right. The problem was he said the particular tech was used in the 70's. Nothing surprises me at this stage in the game. I just want to learn how to make this stuff myself for education purposes.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:04 | 6951124 NidStyles
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Let them spy, I am a law abiding citizen. Unlike the bankers and the tribe. If they want me, they will have to do it the hard old-fashioned way. With boots and blood.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:10 | 6951595 ersatz007
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Then I guess you won't mind posting your email passwords

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:18 | 6951616 Slomotrainwreck
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Quit your bitching. They are not allowed to do it. It's unconstitutional. FUGETABOUTIT. Go back to sleep.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:27 | 6950865 cooky puss
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"We did get soaked though."

You mean, in that trickle down pee economy statists are talking about?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:35 | 6951050 overbet
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Where can I buy one? I know somebody has a link.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:50 | 6951309 janus
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start here:

https://www.congress.gov/

find your congressman and start bidding.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:39 | 6950702 Demdere
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Mere moron, or hasbara?

We are real tired of all the references to jews as anyting other than a religon and perhaps an ethnic group, very neutrally used.

Anything lse undercuts the strength of your own argument in the eyes of more reality-connected people, ones of good judgment, the very ones you most need to influence in these coming years to keep this show on the road.

And anyone with half a mind knows that.

So, moron, ignorant, or hasbar?  You need not choose just one, of course.

We are the world's village green, the wise elders discussing problems.  Don't add noise, OK?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:44 | 6950711 ali_baba
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I'm feeling you man. I feel like I blame everything on them these days. No hot water this morning fkin judes! Missed the train, fking judes. It seems easier to just start with that as a default position. I never used to be like this. fkin judes did this to me.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:58 | 6950752 bamawatson
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rarely, and i mean rarely, do i see any hard cold facts set forth in the constant negative statements about da jews. i hear the vitriol. i muse if the accusers are not exactly like the knee grows blaming their pathetic failures on some white conspiracy. seems like a bunch of low rent whiners to me. hell if one thinks jew dis n jew dat; then by God get out from behind the keyboard, man up, n DO something

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:05 | 6950772 Seasmoke
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Where there's smoke. There's fire.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:20 | 6950848 bamawatson
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is that what qualifies as a 'hard fact' for you?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:39 | 6950904 Seasmoke
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My facts are Greenspan. Jew. Bernanke. Jew. Yellen. Jew. Fischer. Jew.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:21 | 6951010 vincent
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Let's just refer to Fucking Selfish, Self Centered Sneaky Entitled Backstabbing White People in the public & business arena as Criminals and leave it at that.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:22 | 6951188 viahj
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the first time the fox steals one of my chickens, i blame the fox.  the 2nd time, i blame myself.  seems this is missed on those who need to scapegoat enitre races or religions for the crimes of a few, which continue to win while the junk yard dogs fight.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:15 | 6951612 ersatz007
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You're right   and if we want to do something we could all get rid of our cell phones to start

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:37 | 6951209 stacking12321
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some people are incapable of understanding that only specific individuals are capable of making moral decisions and can be guilty. maybe they are intellectually lazy and want someone to blame instead of looking into specifics.

an entire race or group of people cannot be guilty of a crime unless everyone in that group participated in the crime.

only those that committed the crime, should do the time

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:17 | 6951427 janus
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"some people are incapable of understanding that only specific individuals are capable of making moral decisions and can be guilty. maybe they are intellectually lazy and want someone to blame instead of looking into specifics."

that sounds like the sort of micro-aggressive/supremacist/abelist/cisa-somethin-ist excuses people of color have come to expect of you white devils.  

go ahead and try to pretend that you're innocent of crimes which your ancestors didn't commit; your denials only serve to condemn you further.

and, look, this ex post facto thingy is no defense against the soon coming post ex facto provision the do-gooders are preparing to force through congress next session; that way, anything you could say will be used against you, your posterity and progeny in a court of law to support claims affirming your predetermined guilt for the supremacist/ableist crimes against humanity you've committed from eternity on through perpetuity.

did you hear about the verdict from amorica's truth & reconciliation hearings?  they're planning it for some time last year; you and all your people will be found guilty when they went to trial.

there will be no cross-examinations because there are no cross-examinations and that is because there never were any cross-examinations.

is that clear enough for you?

janus 

 

 

 

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 05:24 | 6952058 stacking12321
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i am offended by you calling me "white", i am no such thing.

i am spotted, like a leapord.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:09 | 6950966 Squid Viscous
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Project for the New American Century, a white paper authored and signed by... 85% Jews, at least

 

Then 9/11, and 5 dancing Israelis in Jersey City who later said they were there to document the event...are those not facts?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:31 | 6951465 Jerome Lester H...
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Good grief....this is the kind of meaningless stupidity I have come to expect from the (ahem) critical thinkers at ifuckinghateisrael.com (formerly known as zerohedge.com).

Hey...ignoramus..you must have missed the dancing Islamists filmed all over the world that day. And since this is the Internet where jackasses like you make comical authoritative claims without any citation let me join in and declare that you are 85% a douche...at least!

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 15:02 | 6953605 Kobe Beef
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Did the dancing Islamists get the heads up from Odigo?

Did the dancing Islamists drive moving vans that tested positive for explosives?

Did the dancing Islamists get two multi-billion dollar insurance payouts?

Did the dancing Islamists run a Pentagon accountancy that "lost" several trillion dollars?

Did the dancing Islamists install one of their own as Director of their newly-minted DHS?

Didn't think so.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:51 | 6950925 Baby Bladeface
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"

Where there's smoke. There's fire."

Clearly pyrolysis never heard of. A scholar of US public schools?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:07 | 6950780 ali_baba
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I agree. It's the same with those blacklives matter people. If I could see some cold hard facts I'd believe it but they just seem like a bunch of thugs intent on riots to me. If they really had shit to talk about they'd get out and take on the powlees

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:19 | 6951002 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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If you don't see the facts you're not looking, but I doubt you're here to discover any truth. Isn't that right? More likely you're here to rally the White Goyim against one another and to capitalize on the deteriorating relations between the Christians and Muslims.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:37 | 6951487 Jerome Lester H...
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Well you sure as hell are not going to find any facts among the mostly dumb ass comments parading around here...but I digress. Please feel free to re-commence in the participation of the circle jerk of hatred and stupidity that you so clearly relish.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:46 | 6950720 GhostOfDiogenes
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"We are real tired of all the references to jews as anyting other than a religon and perhaps an ethnic group, very neutrally used."

Signed, Mossad/IDF.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:14 | 6950818 One Day Only
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Demdere, I had the exact same thought just now. 2nd comment in on a thread about debt and surveillance and we already get a Jew comment.

It's easier to blame someone than it is to offer up a solution, and it's the norm for ZH now. Shame really. There used to be so much more lively debate. Now it's all about Jew bashing and black flags.

*anxiously awaits the downvotes*

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:39 | 6950905 Consuelo
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Did you happen upon the no less than (2) articles posted last week here, regarding one Mr. C:ass Sun:Stein...?   Drawing an immediate, straigth-line distinction between cell phone surveillance and the 'Jew'...?   Not so easy, and a straw man to begin with...  Drawing a distinction between the lineage of Trotsky and an uncanny predilection towards Statist policies and practices? Where shall we begin...?   Oh, and - no 'downvote' from me...

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 06:34 | 6952089 aurum4040
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The solution is email your Congressmen/women repeatedly until the situation is fixed and or repeated public protest.. and an NRA like organization that fights for our rights in this regard too... it appears we need one organization that fights for any and all 1776 Constitutional rights

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:24 | 6950861 HopefulCynic
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We should be more specific for starters. It is not the Jews, it is the Ashkenazi Khazar rats who are to blame, then the responsibility trickles down from there to all types of people knowingly complicit or with blindness induced by power and money hunger, but we should never take the finger of where the problem lies, and that is the Ashkenazi Khazar. If you want to be PC about it, you might very well be one of them or their many knowingly or indoctrinated and/or brainwashed and/or ignorant minions. Fuck all of their BS PC or not. 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:33 | 6950920 Urban Redneck
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Even that approach is problematic, given a certain thousand year old Jewish hoax that was given a new life by a certain piece of Jewish propaganda about 40 years ago, and has since given birth to a little sibling of the Climate Change pseudoscience-for-cash scam.  

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 06:17 | 6952083 aurum4040
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All I need to and have to say is Goldman Fucking Sachs ~ jude..I get what you are saying but you are too blind see the truth... The fuckin Judes helped create ISIS for gods sake but I guess it's just doing Gods work right? - Fuck the kikes, all of them

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:41 | 6950689 whotookmyalias
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I like pickles, just not being pickled.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:36 | 6950896 unicorn
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Detect and avoid IMSI catchers aka stingray:

http://www.xda-developers.com/detect-avoid-imsi-catcher-attacks-with-ims...

(just as a good example, there are many projects...)

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:41 | 6950907 doctor10
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and people wonder at why American business is DOA....

Real business needs real privacy -without a lot of triple alphabet agency flunkies looking over your shoulder and trying for a piece of the action.

Somewhere those guys got confused about their job descriptions. Somebody must have uploaded those of the East German Stasi into their computers.

Probably "Putin's Revenge"

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:16 | 6950993 sgt_doom
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If this information comes to us from FOIA requests (which are getting more and more costly) than it wasn't a whistleblower?

Not to worry, though, this stuff will keep us safe from future 9/11s, future Times Square bombers, future Boston Marathon bombers, future San Bernardino killers and all those ISIL refugees enroute with their phony Syrian passports.

I am soooo sure . . . . .

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:46 | 6951173 Sam.Spade
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There is a way to fight back.  Not in some collective fashion, not by 'writing your senator', but by acting individually:

     Go underground.

     Become a digital ghost.

In the end, we'll never be free by asking our oppressors for our rights.  Freedom will be ours only if we take it.  That means seizing and using tools that allow each of us to engage in anonymous communications, commerce, and travel.  The government will make them illegal because the psychopaths that run it won't give up trying to control us, so each of us will have to choose:

     Use those tools and become a free criminal

                          OR

     Obey the law and become a new serf.  FOREVER.

Thieves Emporium is a primer about this struggle.  It's fast-paced, technically accurate, and very scary.

But don't be put off by the fact that it's a novel.  The Daily Anarchist called it 'Barely Fiction'.

Think 'Hackers vs The Deep State'.  Or maybe 'Atlas Shrugged' brought into the 21st century.

Get it now.  Read it now.  And start practicing the techniques it describes now.  Or you and your children will soon be living in a real '1984".

http://www.amazon.com/Thieves-Emporium-Max-Hernandez-ebook/dp/B00CWWWRK0

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:54 | 6950688 The Pope
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Well, thank DOG that Israelis aren't interested in, or partake of any of this ballyhoo! (as evidenced by the downvotes which were administered milliseconds after the post).

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 01:35 | 6951913 Sanity Bear
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I'm going to write a bot that reads each ZH post that combines the post subject and randomly assigns blame for it to Israel, Jews, Ashkenazis, or some combination thereof, and that can relieve you and your cohort of posting the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and I fucked your mom and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and you're gay and everyone knows it and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:36 | 6950690 Berspankme
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Stasi

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:37 | 6950695 WillyGroper
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disconnect the damn thing.

it's not hard.

just like whale-mart, folks just migrated to the convenience of portability.

by 2020 there won't be a PSN.   can't get on it now as from here out it's wireless to the home or voip.

the push for wireless to the home is hard & fast.

hmmm, wonder why?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:16 | 6950995 11b40
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Who needs a push when the cost is so much lower?

 

I downsized and moved to a new office in 2008.  The local phone company charged me almost $2,500 just to move my PBX system.  There were 4-5 guys who rambled in & out for 2 days, and we were only running 8 extensions, and went down to 4.  2 years later, the building had been sold, and when I had to move again, I went to an Internet based system (8x8).  For less than $500, I bought the phones we needed (there was a really good sale at the time), and set up the entire system myself in one afternoon.  Now, I have a highly sophisticated system with far more features and scalability than the PBX, and a flat rate monthly bill that is much less than half of what my old AT&T bill was.  I left the old phones and PBX when I moved.

Last year, I finally got around to dropping my land line at home and put in a wireless service.  Now, my home bill is another flat rate, and much less that I was paying.

Same with Cable TV vs Satellite.  The deals are just too good to pass up, even after allowing for the rate increases after the first year. 

This is just a part of the evolution of our electronic world, and it adds substantial benefits and efficiencies to our lives and organizations.  In short, it is unstoppable - so long as we can power up the electrons.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:41 | 6951699 WillyGroper
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Well, a PBX in 2008 says a lot about adopting technological evolution.

OOMA would have been far cheaper.

It's not a matter of if, but when you become EHS.  With the LOON project by GOOG & project 2020, we're going to be toasted. Check out the frequencies used. Speaking from experience your doctor won't have a clue.

ADHD, restless leg, thyroid...the list of maladies caused by EMF is long.

Mine manifested with my heart following an algorithm, spiking to stroke or heart attack levels at 3am every night.

Betcha a dollar the wig wearing Hildabeast has a glioma from the evolution of things.

I'll pass. 

What you don't know WILL kill you and very slowly to maximize ACA/AMA profits.

Using them in a car is even worse.  Cell, wifi, bluetooth, microwave oven, they all measure the same.

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 00:04 | 6951754 11b40
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The PBX was at least 15 years old & we paid about $4K for it new.

If we are all going to be toast, then I'll have plenty of company.  Been using wireless phones since since they came in a big bag and weighed about 15 pounds.  Microwave ovens for maybe 40 years....can't recall.  At a healthy 68 with no prescription drugs, I'm not too worried.

For business, OOMA could not touch 8x8 hosting.  Check out all the patents they hold.  I traded the stock up & down twice, and in my opinion it is a long term hold now, just waiting for a buyout from a major telecom.

I am a salesman, not a techie, but as a small business owner, I have no IT Department to consult, and have  to learn everything on my own for the past 40 years.  One of the greatest challenges for any business is staying up with their customers and competitors, but it is especially hard for little guys.

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:26 | 6951451 janus
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wtf is up with the voting?

Willie Groper gets two reds for an innocuous comment about tech's evolution?

i'm starting to suspect we've been infiltrated by messianic jewish muslims!!!

call off your dogs, you mangy messianic jewish muzzies!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXAcCHyakDE

(thought you'd dig that song, WG...new tune i found lately)

this is what i get for being civilized,

janus

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 00:50 | 6951838 WillyGroper
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josephine appendage configuration fan club.  ;)

you're right...liked the tune! 

mmjm - rofl

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:37 | 6950698 Berspankme
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I believe there is already a lot of blackmailing going on of congress critters, judges, and political opponents all from stuff gathered on them electronically

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:11 | 6950807 MsCreant
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I was saying the same thing all through the Bush Administration. Got called paranoid then. Now it seems so obvious.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:41 | 6950908 SillySalesmanQu...
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Vindication is sweet when due diligence is rewarded...Bravo Ms C

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:52 | 6950929 1223pm
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Yes. All this is for individuals who have opposing views about the rulers. That's it.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:38 | 6950700 dchang0
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These snoops can listen in on all our private conversations but can't stop a freaking terrorist who posted their allegiance to Daesh on publicly-viewable social media.

Our tax dollars at work... They just want to buy all these toys that give them that giddy tingle up their legs using our money.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:43 | 6950709 El Vaquero
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Do you know how exceedingly easy it is to beat all of this iSurveillance?  You make sure that you have no electronic shit on you when you communicate.  That is all you need to do.  Go oldschool. 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:30 | 6950877 Winston Churchill
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Sephamore will make a comeback.

I was made to learn some in in CCF.

ZH sepharmore club.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:57 | 6951104 logicalman
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I think you mean semaphore.

Learn about the 'one time pad'

Uncrackable if used properly.

There are variations using an agreed book and numbering words by page. If you don't know the book referred to, there's no way in.

Meet your bud by a waterfall or in heavy traffic - whispert the name of a book in bud's ear.

 

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:48 | 6950922 DollarMenu
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Too many are phone addicted.

We are all wrapped into the tangle of the unaware, uncaring addicted.

Saving time, killing time, just passing time, they all hate life in the present moment.

The only thing that will 'cure' them is a CME EMP burst.

Of course that would have it's own set of difficulties.

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:47 | 6950722 Bastiat
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You assume they were trying . . . .not to discount the power of incompetence.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:38 | 6950900 Baby Bladeface
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Daeshers low priority given. If found incidentally Daeshers then ignored mostly to avoid bureaucracy, paperwork taking time away from fun stuff surveillance.

Priority highest is fun stuff: personal enemies, current and ex spouse/girlfriend/boyfriend, unliked neighbours, former employer, political rivals, and supplemental income from information sold black market.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:39 | 6950703 stant
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Yep can't unring a bell . It's out now , pen paper matches

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:41 | 6950705 Sanity Bear
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You don't need to stand up to be heard - just get on the phone...

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:54 | 6950738 ThirdWorldDude
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Every word counts, literally.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:44 | 6950715 GhostOfDiogenes
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us constitution

"The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution provides, "[t]he right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly....

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.

Thomas Jefferson

"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
H.L. Mencken, Prejudices: First Series

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:59 | 6951112 logicalman
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What happened to any law which is unconstitutional is automatically invalid?

Bought and paid for judges, maybe?

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:48 | 6951302 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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""...a law repugnant to the Constitution is void,..."

...Marbury vs Madison

"Bought and paid for judges, maybe?"

Control Files, pussy, who the fuck knows?

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 15:11 | 6953629 Kobe Beef
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Admiralty Law.

When the flag flies a gold fringe, it's not a Constitutional Court. For everything else, there's Kompromat.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:51 | 6950732 dot_bust
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The only purpose of surveilling the public to this extent is to create an enemies list. That way, anyone who disagrees with the government's agenda can be ferreted out quickly.

Of course, since a few wealthy families essentially control the government, one can only conclude that the super-rich want to ensure that they can never be dethroned.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:54 | 6950741 hotrod
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So if I am talking to my lawyer the DA can listen to my conversation.  Cell phones are obsolete.  We are back to square one. person to person conversations.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:01 | 6950763 shantyman
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Person to person conversations are not secure....one can measure vibration off glass and hear everything, in the open one can filter out discreet background noise irrespective of how loud it is....there is NOTHING secure if someone wants to target u....

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:21 | 6951008 11b40
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Yep.  

You can spend all of your time and all of your money trying to be secure, and still be compromised by a dedicated opponent. 

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 00:49 | 6951837 Crush the cube
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Even a circuit with an LED light bulb can be turned into a mic, wonder why the push to LED's no more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hliHBeC1sco

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:55 | 6950744 Ms No
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You have to watch out for whoever has access to your computer or phone physically also.  I had a friend who downloaded some spy program CD onto her husbands computer and it sent her his email text and maybe more.  Once she busted him she remotely shut it off and he never knew how she caught him.   

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:56 | 6950748 hotrod
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Seriously those should be made available to the Public if Govt has them

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 18:57 | 6950750 NoWayJose
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Proud owner of a prepaid basic cell phone that I bought with cash and refill with prepaid refill cards that I buy with cash. I have no credit cards or emails attached to the device. They can still find me by reverse cross checking who I communicate with, and by matching up the GPS of the phone - but they have to work at it.

Anyone with a smartphone should know by now that everything they say or do is captured by the NSA and by advertisers and by search engines and by social media web sites and by their own cell phone carriers. No vote is going to change that, and no Constitution will protect you.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:23 | 6951022 11b40
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Every bit of information that can be gathered and sold is being gathered and sold.  

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:24 | 6951023 11b40
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dup

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:01 | 6950757 BigStupid
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Need to crowdfund for a few of these - put them into every state capital and stream live to the web. Politicians have nothing to hide, so they shouldn't have a problem with this right?

-edit- had crowdfund as crowdsource

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:00 | 6950759 hotrod
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This is like having all these super sophisticated weapons yet all one needs to do is knock out a satelite and they are useless.  How does one run a business or other dealings when any Govt agency can listen in.  Back to passing notes on paper.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:04 | 6950770 css1971
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You don't. All your secrets are openened up to competitors and you get destroyed.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:02 | 6950766 css1971
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DHS is the US Stazi.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:17 | 6950831 MsCreant
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Stazi would be stunned by these capabilities. 1984 is here.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:34 | 6951243 PoasterToaster
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But in the end none of this will do them any good.  Just like the Stasi.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:03 | 6950767 PeeramidIdeologies
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Nothing funnier then an anti-spying, pro-liberty, stand up and make yourself heard article posted on Zero Hedge.

Please Tyler's tell me again how you believe in freedom of speech and respect for the individual.

Oh and while your at it, how about you explain these screen shots I have...

The equipment shown in this article are children's toys, ancient relics that nobody has needed for years. Any piece of shit with half a brain that is lazy enough so sit around on their computer all day can access all kinds of personal information with very little effort.

You can take that to the fukin bank.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:07 | 6950777 Kirk2NCC1701
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1. Mind your language.  Be vague & innocuous, even friendly.

2. Stay away from the Pocket Spies (phones).

3. Go on long walks, w/o electronics, to spend "quality time" (QT) with someone

4. Have QT sessions with friends and associates, where no electronics is allowed near the group.  Impromptu outdoor activities or impromptu religious meetings are ideal.

5. Use Deception, just to mess with them and waste time, resources and finite human bandwidth.

6.  Tell everyone to do the same.

Thus, sooner or later, they will have to deal with genuine issues, policies and legitimated Narratives that matter to the Middle Class, and not those of the effin 1% -- on whose behalf all this is happening.  If these scum have a choice between genuine Reform or Collapse, their sense of self-preservation will probably lead them to pick Reform.  Else they get Collapse or Revolution.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:20 | 6950847 MsCreant
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Surveilance cameras. 

.gov has them around, businesses have them around, and so do private individuals. Hackable to boot.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:12 | 6951157 logicalman
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Been doing all of the above for a long time.

Use cash as much as possible.

Don't sign up for 'loyalty' cards.

Don't do online surveys.

Don't own a car - (takes a big commitment)

Dump the lying, manipulative screen (TV)

Just refuse to take part as much as you possibly can. Every now and again you will have doubts, but that's when you have to stop and think clearly.

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:07 | 6950784 Seasmoke
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Blue horseshoe loves Blue Star.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:17 | 6950832 Dragon HAwk
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12991, 129933,99832,09232,9i0i,7213DX

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:11 | 6950805 yellensNIRPles
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I can't believe any person is surprised by this at all. Let me spell it out for you: Anything you do online, over the phone, text, cell, call, email, type, ANYTHING digital can and will be perused through at any time by TPTB.

They will know it was you, can manipulate the content if they wish, and can track you anywhere you are. You are not smarter than they are at concealing your thoughts unless you are willing not to commit them to the digital realm in any form. Anyone with something to hide these days isn't digitizing their thoughts unless they're part of the double-digit IQ club.

It even occurs to me that sites like this one are a great place to get 'pinged'. Meaning, someone wants to know what people think they know about any given subject, or how people feel about a certain idea which might be pervasive at any given time, and they drop some disinformation with slivers of truth in it and see how the feeding frenzy goes. Sit back and digest the information given for free to them, because each of us wants deserpately to feel like we have something in common with the other sheep that don't have any fucking clue what's really going on.

Fact is, we live in a world where absolutely nothing can be believed anymore except a direct physical thing happeneing in your presence that you can confirm.

Sorry to sound so negative, but tha'ts how I view our reality.

Tonight I'm drinking Grolsch. Love that shit.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:25 | 6950864 MsCreant
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Yeeah, well maybe it is you who want to know what we think about existing in a totalitarian society, and how we feel about certain ideas which are pervasive. Perhaps you just dropped some disinformation with slivers of truth in it to see how our feeding frenzy goes. Perhaps you sit back and digest the information given for free to you...

Nah.

Fuck them.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:05 | 6950960 Lumberjack
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It was used under the auspices of marketing... We no longer have disposable income so why so much marketing? /s  Wired just did this article about backdoors. Private matters or transactions of any importance need not be discussed on any electronic device. You and everyone else already pay a tax and fees for its use and convenience with the contractual obligation that privacy is moot.  Then again the SUPERHERO'S and their SUPERCOMPUTERS monitoring this shit 24-7 (outside of watching porn and playing video games or fantasy sports), have not landed a single mafia/terrorist or other bad guy yet, The smarter ones do make out on insider trading and follow their targets such as prospective sex partners or in their paranoia, watch their GF/BF or whatever. 

 

One thing that should be said is, those who are guilty of something or are planning dirty deeds have a need for this technology. Maybe it's time to to go silent or, like what has been done here and elsewhere, put their names in the spotlight. Keep an eye on the press and how they work. I hear Hillary is about to a a gradma again....  

 

 

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:22 | 6951013 Lumberjack
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That said, why are most of the ISIS refugees males of the military service age? Back in the day when a ship was going down it was women and children first on the lifeboats. What a bunch of cowardly fucking pussies we have running the US now. 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:32 | 6951238 PoasterToaster
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So stay online and let them eat shit.  We shouldn't be afraid to use technology, they should be afraid of us.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:12 | 6950812 SMC
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Out in the country, a few keywords can take 1 bar to 4 bars in about a week...

Cheaper than a repeater. LOL

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:16 | 6950825 Bunga Bunga
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Hitlery wants to spy on you too, wants to go full nuclear on encryption and privacy:

"encrypted communication that no law enforcement agency can break into ... I would hope that, given the extraordinary capacities that the tech community has and the legitimate needs and questions from law enforcement, that there could be a Manhattan-like project — something that would bring the government and the tech communities together to see they're not adversaries, they've got to be partners."

Edward Snowden: Clinton's Call for a 'Manhattan-Like Project' Is Terrifying

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/edward-snowden-clintons-call-f...

 

 

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:15 | 6951170 logicalman
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If encryption was to be made illegal, every bank and credit card company would be out of business IMMEDIATELY.

I guess the law won't apply to them.

So, what else is new.

 

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 01:28 | 6951848 Bunga Bunga
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Banning encryption would also include banning math.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:21 | 6950850 cherry picker
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Time to work on a stingray scrambler.

Screw them up at their own game, import conversations from China and throw it at them. :)

If I thought of it, someone has or is building it.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:21 | 6950853 American Psycho
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They mentioned the 4th amendment.  That's cute. 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:32 | 6950867 L Bean
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To expand its headquarters, Harris corp recently took over part of a nature preserve, as well as cutting off access to a main thoroughfare, making it their very own private road. All without the approval of citizens, and with a MASSIVE tax break. The mayor just signed off on it, no questions asked, because Harris Corp threatened to move out of state if they weren't given all they wanted. And this company is the major employer here, since the 80s. If you don't work for the MIC in this area, you're either in law, medicine, or the service economy. This is also always ground zero for FL real estate bubbling. What a shithole. The best thing that could happen is a Cat 5 hurricane that hangs out for afew days and scrubs the whole damn area down to the sand. NASA, Patrick AFB, all of the spy-ware factories...

 

Harris Corp, Raytheon, Northrup Grumman, Boeing, this is who runs your cities now. If your city is thriving, it's either because it's a hub of the MIC, or a banker/police-stetl, fully-equipped with said MIC products.

 

When the Stingray came out, it was common knowledge that the cops around here were playing around with it. This is also the area where the portable "DNA kit" was debuted, and police were "testing" it by asking completely innocent people to submit to it, people who had reported burglaries or gotten into fender benders.

 

I need to get out of this damn town.

 

http://www.floridatoday.com/videos/news/local/2015/12/13/77264842/

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:59 | 6950947 GhostOfDiogenes
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I hit your link and this was headlining

Video: Sheriff Ivey at Hanukkah rally

No comment.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:47 | 6950919 Consuelo
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We must be mindful of the fact that 'listening-in' is only the beginning.   We have already set the table for extra-judicial practice (read: Star Chambers), years ago.  So, the beginning and the end are already in place.   What's left is in the middle - i.e., your soon-to-be Dossier, which is the vehicle that transports you from being the 'target audience' to being the captured political prisoner.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 19:55 | 6950937 rlouis
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I can't wait for them to make not having a cell phone illegal.  Obama phones mandatory.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:09 | 6950972 VarenneRiver
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Logged in to call all of you paranoid. I don't care if .gov knows about me. My family has been fighting for freedom on this continent for almost 400 years.
If I get black bagged or nail gunned the spirit of liberty will live on in all of you and others like you.
"So long as men die, liberty will never perish." -Charlie Chaplin.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:12 | 6951599 Sam.Spade
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When men die, their ideas die with them.  Kill enough of them and you kill what they fight for.

You miss the implications of the new digital state.  In the past, tyrants were limited in what they could do by manpower constraints.  Back then, it took eight trained operatives to keep one citizen under surveillance.  Even a Nero didn't have enough money.

Thanks to technology, that has all changed.  Now only a handful of spooks can spy on an entire nation.  And don't think it doesn't matter to you because you aren't important enough.  From Thieves Emporium:

                             ******

A prosecutor is talking to one of the 1%:

"With enough data, my lawyers can always find a crime. They'll prosecute. Bury anyone under legal motions, make his life miserable. Maybe even send him up for some felony."

"Even if he didn't do anything?"

"Of course he did something. We got 100,000 laws on the books, twice that in regs. Somewhere, sometime, by accident or intentionally, he broke one. We get a moving x-ray of his life, all we have to do is find it."

                                *****

If you ever become important enough in the future, meaning stand out because of your political views or actions, they will drill down into that database and you will be made to change what you say or you will be silenced.

http://www.amazon.com/Thieves-Emporium-Max-Hernandez-ebook/dp/B00CWWWRK0

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:20 | 6951007 sgt_doom
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Given the nature of this article, I would like to share the end results of Big Data accumulation, correlation, sifting and cross-referencing, and much thanks to the outstanding hundreds of hardcore researchers in America, Canada, Europe, Australia, and Japan (Mort Sahl, David Lifton, Harold Weisberg, Mark Lane, the Mary Ferrell Foundation, James Douglass, David Talbot, and so many, many others).

THE ASSASSINS BALL

General Outline:  Assassination of President John F. Kennedy

Declassified CIA files (see maryferrell.org links [Mary Ferrell Foundation]) indicate that CIA agents met with French OAS assassin, Jean Souetre, months prior to the assassination of President Kennedy, and that they were aware of Souetre’s involvement in the attempted assassination of President De Gaulle of France.

The CIA agents met Souetre in Lisbon around March-April 1963, which was also the HQ city of Aginter-Presse, the front outfit for assassins and mercenaries for hire.

Next, Pfc. Eugene Dinkin intercepts cables between the CIA station in Italy and an OAS site detailing that the location and date for the assassination of President Kennedy is to be Dallas between 11/22 to 11/28.

Declassified FBI files indicate that FBI agents spoke with Dr. Alderson in Houston, an old friend of Souetre’s from his military service, when Dr. Alderson was stationed in France.  Dr. Alderson stated to assassination researchers that he was left with the impression by the agents that Souetre had been involved with JFK’s murder, and also they mentioned that he had been flown out of the country shortly after JFK’s murder on a government plane.

So, thanks to FOIA requests from the Ferrell Foundation we know that it was ONLY the CIA which issued and expulsion order for Jean Souetre to leave the country, as those declassified FBI files indicate that there were no files or records whatsoever on Jean Souetre at the INS Texas HQ office in Houston.  (And how many other expulsion orders has the CIA issued since then?  Not very many, that’s for sure!)

French intelligence confirmed to attorney Fensterwald, another JFK researcher, that Souetre was in the USA in November of 1963.

Then INS agent in Dallas, Virgil Bailey, shows up hours after the murder of JFK to remove Souetre, an international assassin wanted for the attempted assassination of another president, from the custody of the Dallas police, but of course doesn’t remember what became of him afterwards?!  Nor does Virgil recall who directed him to pick up Souetre?

Bailey gives a description of Souetre which matches another QJ/WIN assassin, Mozes or Moise Maschkivitzan, a Belgian of Russian-Jewish descent, who may have also been involved in the murder of Patrice Lumumba.

Why this description?  Because Bailey picked up three individuals that day:  Jean Souetre (OAS), Lazlo the Hungarian (OAS) and Moise Maschkivitzan, of whom very little is known, other than he appears to match an alias known as Michel Victor Mertz, a concoction of either Maschkivitzan’s or French intelligence.

The “tramp” with the turned up collar was Maschkivitzan, while the taller and blond fellow was the Hungarian, and the short and pudgy fellow was an actual hobo.

While the murder of JFK was primarily ordered by the Rockefeller brothers, with the assistance of local Texas oil types, and undertaken by the CIA within the CIA, using contract assassins, the CIA element was most enthusiastic as they were working with elements within French intelligence (and would later take over control from them) as regards drug trafficking from the Golden Triangle of Southeast Asia.

That area was controlled by former Nationalist Chinese militias, who had been financed by the CIA to make forays into China, and been repeatedly repulsed by the PLA, falling back to surviving by taking over the minor existing drug trafficking at the time, and greatly expanding it with the help of the French mob, and French intelligence elements colluding with them, then later the elements within the CIA.

During the Johnson Administration, the State Department and Treasury Department would encourage the banks to create offshore tax havens, to bring in US dollars from the drug money laundering business, as the outflow of hard US currency had increased with the buildup of the American empire; an increase in military bases on foreign shores.  This trend had already begun, in response to actions by both President Kennedy and Rep. Wright Patman (D-TX) who were going after the sheltering of money and ownership of the super-rich in their foundations and trusts.

FACT SHEET for JFK Assassination, 11/22/63

FACT: Fired CIA director, Allen Dulles [who still appeared to be running the agency] traveled to Dallas several weeks prior to the JFK assassination as did the CIA's William K. Harvey, CIA station chief in Italy;

FACT: Gen. Edward Lansdale was photographed in Dallas on the morning of the murder, Lansdale [CIA] had worked for Nelson Rockefeller when he was reorganizing the DoD during Eisenhower administration;

FACT: Lucien Conein [CIA] was supposed to be in Vietnam, where he was several weeks before during the assassination of Diem, and would be photographed in Dallas by the presidential motorcade that day [Conein was also a favorite of Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr., about to fired by JFK for not following his peace directives] - - Neither Diem, nor JFK, wanted American troops in Vietnam - - NSAM 263;

FACT: Harold Jameson was stopped and questioned by Dallas police right after JFK murder, and would later be stopped by LA police immediately after the murder of Sen. Bobby Kennedy in 1968 - - Jameson had an FBI file [case no. 499 731], was connected to Big Oil and the mob, and was related to Donald Jameson, head of the CIA's Soviet Russia/Covert Actions desk; (Just so happened Jameson had an office with a direct-line-of-sight to the presidential motorcade in the Dal-Tex Building, also had roof access.)

FACT: Pfc. Eugene B. Dinkin, stationed at an NSA site in Metz, France, monitoring OAS sites, intercepts several cables between CIA station in Italy and the OAS in France, detailing that the murder of President Kennedy will be in Dallas, sometime between 11/22 to 11/28.  (Unfortunately, Mr. Dinkin notifies the wrong people and he is shipped to Walter Reed Hospital stateside, where members of the CIA’s MK ULTRA team use a combination of violent electroshock treatments and schizophrenia-inducing drugs to scramble his mind and story!)

FACT: CIA document #632-796 is released in 1977 - - dated 4/01/64 - - titled: “Jean Souetre's Expulsion from the US” which occurred 18 hours after the murder of JFK, where Souetre, an assassin with the OAS and Red Hand, was picked up in Dallas, TX, by INS agent Virgil Bailey.  (Oddly, Virgil Bailey, along with George H.W. Bush had little to no recollection of events on the day JFK was murdered --- he recalled picking up the Frenchman, Jean Souetre --- an international assassin wanted for a number of crimes, chiefly the attempted assassination of another president, Charles de Gaulle of France, and was an escaped convict, wanted for treason and sedition in France, etc.  So shortly after the assassination of President Kennedy in Dallas, ole Virgil picks up a guy --- an illegal alien --- from the Dallas jail, wanted in an attempt on another president, but doesn’t recall what happened to him, his disposition, what became of him, etc.)

FACT: Three French thugs, posing as journalists, do a home invasion on Dallas PD Chief Jesse Curry, simply interrogating him on how much he knows about the assassination;

FACT: During the time of the President Kennedy assassination, the CIA was being “reorganized” and the person in charge, who had been appointed by CIA Director McCone, was Nelson Rockefeller's special assistant [and in the military at officer's rank] at the time and McCone, unbeknownst to JFK, had made his fortune with a shipping company owned by the Rockefeller family [silent majority owner].

Supposition:  The shorter looking fellow with the turned up collar, Moise Maschkivitzan, is most likely with Aginter-Presse, a so-called news agency front for an international organization of mercenaries and assassins for hire, founded by French military deserter and OAS member, Yves Guerin-Serac.  The so-called three tramps have never been positively ID’d although an employee of the Houston PD incorrectly claimed to have ID’d them (not a biometric match) and a Dallas “journalist” claimed to have matched them to several hobos who were arrested on 11/22/63 --- problem is their photos at the same age are NOT a match, and the head of the Dallas Sheriffs Identification Division James D. Kitching, was questioned on the three tramps’ photos in 1968 and he stated that no one had been arrested who matched those photos!

The Operation

 Four shooters:  Lucien Conein is Number Four, French immigrant and CIA member (often referred to as Gen. Edward Lansdale’s shadow), situated by the motorcade but as it passes he moves toward the Dal-Tex Building.  In that building was an office leased by Harold Jameson, the criminal who is related to Donald Jameson, at the time head of the CIA’s Soviet Russia/Covert Actions Desk.  Jameson’s office is perfect line-of-sight to the motorcade, superior to anything in the Texas School Book Depository!

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http://www.ctka.net/pr1195-hewett.html

The Dal-Tex Specimen: The fourth piece of firearm evidence consists of a rusted shell casing found on the rooftop of the Dal-Tex Building in 1977 by an air-conditioning repair man. The Dal-Tex Building is just east of the TSBD, across Houston Street. Assassination researchers have long speculated that a second gunman was positioned at that building. Judging by the rusted condition of the shell case, it had been there for quite some time. What was unique about this case was the crimped edges along the neck suggesting that either the shell had been handloaded or had been used in conjunction with a sabot. Specimens 1), 2) and 3) could conceivably have been shot from locations other than Dealey Plaza by some careless hunter. However, this shell casing meant that the rifle was shot where the shell was expended and it is unlikely that deer hunters ever had occasion to position themselves on a rooftop in downtown Dallas.

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Shooter Number One is Jean Souetre, an OAS assassin, who is situated at the overpass, and once he fires his rifle, a man dressed as a laborer will relieve him of that rifle and spirit it away.

Shooters Number Two and Three are situated at the grassy knoll area and will be captured many times by photographers as they are led by two Dallas policemen to the Dallas County  Sheriff’s office.  The shorter, fellow with the turned-up collar was Moise Maschkivitzan, born in Antwerp of Russian-Jewish parents. The taller, blond fellow was Lazlo the Hungarian, former member of the French Foreign Legion (where, when the join, they assume a new identity, so only his name and nickname can be ascertained), and an OAS weapons specialist, so more like an armorer or gunsmith of the group.

The third older and fatter fellow was an actual hobo.

These two shooters will be relieved of their rifle(s) by Jack Ruby, who is witnessed running up and transferring one or more rifles to his car and then leaving the scene.

The two shooters and the hobo will be allowed to leave the Dallas County Sheriff’s office after only several minutes.

 SOME SOURCES:

Those three (never identified) tramps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA-3navQ-_E

http://www.whokilledjfk.net/tramps.htm

 Arrest records of three tramps misreported:

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kdfw/projects/JFKvideo/video/jfk031.html

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kdfw/projects/JFKvideo/video/jfk032.html

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kdfw/projects/JFKvideo/video/jfk033.html

Eyewitness recounting of one of the JFK shooters: Time of eyewitness: 13:51 (James Douglass’ book, JFK and the Unspeakable)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LbNWUNfnaA&feature=player_embedded

 Lucien Conein at the JFK murder:

http://i0.wp.com/altereddimensions.net/main/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/image_thumb45.png?resize=180%2C149

JFK on Algeria and its independence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YDKRqoRkfQ

Photos of three tramps:

http://grandsubversion.com/jfkAssassination/nobotimg/dallas_police/hobos/three_tramp_hobo_jfk_35.jpg

http://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/pojfkwhiteslides01019.jpg

(Look under 5/16/68, JAMES D. KITCHING . . .)

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/W%20Disk/Weisberg%20Harold/FOIA%20Requests%20Chronology/Item%2021.pdf

Attorney/Researcher’s meetings in France  (Bernard Fensterwald)

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/S%20Disk/Souetre%20Jean%20with%20aka's/Item%2011.pdf

http://americanjudas.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-defense-intelligence-agency-dia.html

Declassified CIA/FBI documents

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83403#relPageId=2&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83404#relPageId=4&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83405#relPageId=2&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83405#relPageId=9&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83408#relPageId=3&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83409#relPageId=4&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=91307#relPageId=2&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=91307#relPageId=3&tab=page

 

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:09 | 6951148 GhostOfDiogenes
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Mary Ferrell was CIA.

Jackie Kennedy shot John.

Watch the videos again. She shows no concern for him and pushes him away.

The only shooter in that car was her.

Everything else is mindless speculation.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 20:45 | 6951070 Falling Down
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The lid was blown off Stingray after a defense attorney asked an investigator how his client was tracked to a specific residence, and the agency had no choice but to explain how they did it.

Stingray is able to pinpoint a cell phone to within mere feet of where it's located.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:56 | 6951553 Sam.Spade
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Usually not true because cell towers aren't usually close enough for that accuracy. 

But the point is irrelevant.  The GPS in your cell phone is on all the time whether you want it running or not.  It sends your location, to within ten feet or so, to your cell phone company every minute of every day.  They, in turn, give that information to the NSA.

The Deep State doesn't need no stinking stingray to know where you are all the time.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:26 | 6951208 FiatFapper
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The Lives of Others is an excellent film; very apt for the article. Behind every machine there may be a human with empathy.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:31 | 6951232 PoasterToaster
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Those are expensive pieces of equipment.  Be a shame if someone were to break into those tower locations and take them.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:36 | 6951254 MsCreant
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Vandalism alone would be quite tragic...

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:45 | 6951291 conraddobler
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You want to watch something illustrative watch recordings of the hearings Spitzer was holding when he gets a call and has to excuse himself.

I am supposing about that time someone told him he was going down.

He got tagged by the very law they told us was only to catch terroists of course once they had it then people buying prositutes couldn't be ignored now could it?

What makes America so hopeless is that people are so pruddish they can't see that only his wife should of been upset by this.

He wasn't using public money he was using his own money which made it largely a private matter that while embarrissing was all very powerful people needed to skate on some stuff he was working on.

Do people not understand the concept that some of these people were doing much worse things and thus getting rid of him was doing them a favor?

Disheartening to say the least.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 21:47 | 6951293 surf@jm
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And, remember years ago, some politician got recorded saying something over his cell phone, that he should not have been saying?

But, instead of shutting up, they pass a law maiking it illegal to record or listen to cell phone conversations....

So you dumb sheeple cant do it, But I guarantee political operatives from both parties roam Washington D.C. snooping all the time, and probably have a collection of those snooping devices provided at taxpayer expense.....

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:22 | 6951366 dexter_morgan
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 Privacy is a dying notion in a nation of fools determined to be safe rather than liberated.

Indeed. 

And yet, they could not stop the Boston or San Bernardino attacks.

Money well spent.......

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:52 | 6951533 Sam.Spade
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They dodn't stop them because they caused them.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:31 | 6951474 VWAndy
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Its not the technologies but how they are used that matters. The genie aint going back in the bottle.

 

 If they ever lost control of access?

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:42 | 6951505 InnVestuhrr
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Stop stealing my earnings and I will happily GIVE you my phone.

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 22:45 | 6951513 GRDguy
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Imagine a university president that is also chairman of a venture firm directly connected with the CIA.

President of Arizona State University, and chairman of In-Q-Tel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-Q-Tel

Mon, 12/21/2015 - 23:35 | 6951678 DuneCreature
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Stinkray Surveillance Devices

Well, it looks like we finally got what ‘we’ ask for. Total surveillance to keep us safe and give the cops something to do between terror attacks and terror attack drills, … but I repeat myself.  #snort#, #chuckle#, #groan#

Let’s think for a minute as to how this will sort out on a daily basis.

In my state most of the state troopers are in their 20s and 30s. They take home their patrol vehicles and all of their equipment. I have a young trooper who lives a mile from me up on a mountainside. I gar-o-tee you he gets out of bed in the morning, makes coffee and turns on his Stingray to listen to the morning cell phone chatter. The popo are just like the rest of the people around here. Half of the households have police scanners that stay on 24-7 just to listen to fire and rescue. The police, don’t ya just know, they encrypt their important comms.

Are they expecting us to believe that if you were a young deputy sitting out along a lonely country road waiting for a speeder to ambush and you had an cell tower eavesdropping device sitting next to you on the patrol car seat that you would resist the temptation to flip it on and check up on the neighborhood scuttlebutt, flaming tall tale rumors, drug deals in progress or the latest lonely housewife calling for a little morning service call to her favorite plumber for a leaky pipe tightening stop? ….. It’s that or a half assed AM country music station with way too many commercials. …. Which would you tune into?

Remember with his Stingray device and a networked in patrol car laptop computer he can instantly have the phone owner’s name, the name of the person they call no matter how far away they might be, addresses of same, the physical GPS location of the cell phone (on or off) and a complete set of records for the cell phone owners (banking, medical, criminal, education, employment…the works.) ….. If I understand the Stingray capacities correctly it can actually data dump an entire target phone memory. AND it has unattended call recording and handoff tower tracking functions.

They are making these things cheaper and smaller and more portable all the time. …. I’m sure one day soon they will be pocket-sized toys for all the cops and their little covert informant peeping Tommy puppets and late night beer drinking pals. …… “Hey Carlos, you know that good looking young blond that works at the diner? I caught her talkin’ to her boyfriend on the phone last night. Just listen to these two!”

Now we just need to build a snooper device that can intercept the police Stingray snooper box feed. ,,, They can’t every well charge you with hacking into a device they won’t or can’t admit even exists in courtroom. …………. Or can they?

This should keep life lively and help fight boredom for cops, lawyers and all us little privacy advocate peons while we are waiting for the next drill terrorfrying shooter mass cluster event.

 ~ DC

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 00:42 | 6951818 onmail1
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The best way to live with it is that

everyone should start abusing the politicians

(as a method of flooding)

Before start of every call

"LynchObama, How are you "

"FcukMCain, I am fine"

"LynchObama, Have you brought all papers"

"KillTheRatBiden, Sure Fine"

Hah ha

Let them go mad

--------

History :

In England people created nursary Rhymes

in order to make their msg across the royalty

which many ppl & children started singing

"London bridge is going down"

"Ba ba black sheep"

etc

 

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 00:57 | 6951850 Crush the cube
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The real question is what are they tying all this stuff into to sort it.  It sure isn't humans who can do the watching, not possible.  Something is capable or the vast effort would be a complete waste.

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 10:23 | 6952475 Bemused Observer
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They aren't sorting it. That's why they haven't stopped any 'plots'...this stuff comes in handy only AFTER the fact...IF you can find what you're looking for, which is iffy.

The machines can collect it all, but someone has to interpret the data, or it is, as you say, a complete waste. The technology, as always, is light-years ahead of the humans using it. But the intelligence community is too enthralled with their shiny new toys that they aren't seeing how they are getting bogged-down under tons of useless information.

The next big attack will also not be known in advance, and when it happens, all the intel folks will be sitting slack-jawed in front of a bunch of glowing screens, not learning anything about it until they get a phone call telling them it already happened.

Tue, 12/22/2015 - 21:45 | 6954908 brokenspoke
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Sounds like a two way street. Can be used in DC to monitor our opressors.

 

 

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