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Christmas 2015: Will Syria & Iraq Become Washington's Stalingrad?
Submitted by Ron Holland via PravdaReport.com,
73 years ago on Christmas Eve 1942 German troops sang Silent Night on a European wide radio Christmas program from the distant battlefields of Nazi conquest outside Leningrad in the North and from surrounded Stalingrad on the southern Eastern Front to the Middle East. Also all across Nazi occupied Europe, from Italy and Norway to the Atlantic coastlines of Fortress Europe the soldiers sang to their families and listeners back home starting to question the promises of Nazi victory propaganda.
The Dangers of Empire Overreach in 1942 & 2016
Yes Germany excelled at propaganda, as does the establishment cable and print news media in the United States today. Although the radio show had the intended propaganda effect of temporarily raising civilian morale, Germany and their fair weather allies were already stretched way too thin around the expansive parameter of Nazi conquered and occupied territory.
Now on Christmas 2015 there is a Washington military effort also stretched too far among our many distant conquests, peacekeeping missions, occupations and attempts to secure oil resources and pipelines. Our foreign policy is designed to perpetuate the failing petrodollar system. Like the Germans 70 plus years ago, our allies and local populations generally hate us and our attempts to go after local resistance groups only results in the growth of more anti-American groups we describe as terrorists.
In America Today Political Correctness Is Just Fascism By Another Name
Unlike the German's singing Christmas hymns in the 1940's, in the Washington politically correct military today the songs would certainly be secular rather than religious in nature. American soldiers are not permitted to promote Christianity because in the modern US military soldiers are often court martialed even for failing to remove Bible verses from their computers.
But there are some scary parallels between the Nazi Empire of the 1940's and the Washington Empire and conquests today that revolve around the Petrodollar system that has maintained the dollar reserve currency status since the end of World War Two. This dollar world reserve currency model required that oil was only priced and sold in dollars forced all foreign nations buying and importing oil to keep major dollar reserves to pay for their oil imports guaranteed a permanent and expanding demand for dollars around the world.
Three Middle East countries first broke the oil/dollar requirement and threatened the petrodollar system including Iraq, Libya and Iran hence the US military attempts to violently overthrow these governments to maintain Washington hegemony and the dollar.
Washington's War Fever
America has plenty of population to increase military forces unlike Germany in 1942 but we are reaching the limit to voluntary military enlistments in a time of permanent war and repeated overseas assignments. Also the continuous terror threats since 9/11 as well as real and orchestrated plots are being questioned by a growing number of alternative Internet media sites and polls show Americans no longer trust Congress or the media establishment.
I fear the political leadership has determined a real war of limited scope and duration may be the best way to regain control of the situation and inspire the American people to sacrifice and support their political leadership. Also a war scenario will allow Washington, Wall Street and the Federal Reserve to transfer the blame for the looming death of the Petrodollar to foreign adversaries like Russia, China and Iran. This will provide political cover to a decade long recession and dramatically reduced economic growth and prosperity as the death of the petrodollar works its way through the US economy over the next few years.
Looking Back To 1942
Few military historians would question that the German Wehrmacht was the best led, trained and most highly motivated military force in the world. But remember Germany still lost the war because they were out numbered and fighting on too many fronts.
The German weapon superiority was complete until the Soviet T-34 and KV tanks entered the picture and the overwhelming manufacturing power of the US, Soviet Union and the British Empire doomed Germany to eventual defeat although it wasn't necessarily apparent at the time.
Today on Christmas 2015 the well-led and highly motivated American forces with the best in weaponry, aircraft and carriers are also stretched far too thin across Afghanistan, Asia and the Middle East. While Republican politicians in the presidential debates want to put "boots on the ground" in Iraq and Syria, the Obama Administration has reduced funding for weapons and soldiers resulting in far too few troops, air and naval forces to cover the multiplying trouble spots across the Middle East and Asia. This is even more concerning when you see our aircraft and naval vessels goading China into a fight or military incident in the Spratly Islands.
Like the Germans 70 plus years earlier we want to control oil and gas reserves, resources and pipelines while keeping the military pressure on China, Russia and Iran. Our previous actions have already destroyed the countries of Iraq and Syria and more nations in the Middle East are now considering switching to Russia over the US.
Remember the German Reich didn't have enough troops to defend its conquered lands and had to rely on weak allied troops. Thus when the Soviet's encircled Stalingrad they attacked the weak German flanks held only by second-rate Rumanian troops without the modern weaponry required to hold back the Soviet attack and the rest is history.
It is much the same for outnumbered American troops today in or near the Shia Crescent. Bush invaded Iraq to overthrew Saddam but took out the leading country able to hold the Sunni line against Iran. Although we had much freedom of action earlier after the fall of the Soviet Union but now with Putin's leadership and a modernized Russian military the Washington days of having a free pass to pursue our goals in the Middle East without Russian hindrance and pushback are over.
Washington's Petrodollar System Is Dying!
Today the Washington Petrodollar system is in terminal collapse with China, Russia, Iran and many nations trading oil and natural gas with a wide variety of currencies and credits. In addition, the refugees from our Middle East actions have weakened the euro and now threaten the stability of Europe. This has made the dollar rise in value temporarily against the euro and I believe this is a planned outcome. All designed to weaken the euro and provide the appearance of near term strength to the dollar in a desperate attempt to buy time for US political leadership.
In closing, Washington is in a race to create instability, possibly a military incident and even a limited war before the final Petrodollar collapse in order to put the blame of a future dollar and debt crisis on a foreign adversary rather at than at home where it belongs. The problem for them in early 2016 is time may be running out as markets and currencies are reacting to the consequences of too much world debt, market and central bank manipulation and a global recession resulting in the collapse of oil demand and prices.
So my suggestion for investors is to follow China and Russia and increase your personal gold holdings now at record low prices. Also consider diversifying portfolios outside US stocks and jurisdictional, regulatory and presidential executive order risks.
I hope I'm wrong but I fear Washington is trying to provoke a war in the Middle East to cover the coming collapse of the Petrodollar system and the American economy when the dollar is no longer the world reserve currency. The war is necessary to blame the coming dollar and debt collapse on Russia and China rather where it belongs on Wall Street, the central banking cartel and Washington political establishment.
Remember while a Washington provoked war or conflict is likely to start in the Shia Crescent; it could spread across the Middle East and into Europe.
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It won't be the USA's Stalingrad if we just STAY THE F*** OUT.
"THEY" can't stay the fuck out, they would need a real currency for that and less of an empire and less FSA at home. It will all come out, the tide too then we see who has a suit..
Regardless, great article. All US foreign policy only makes sense in the context of maintaining dollar denominated oil markets.
2016 civil war in EU. 2018 civil war in USA.
I'm sorry but the author will have to be reported to the NAAPCP (National Association for the Advancement of Politically Correct Peeples) for using the word "Chirstmas" too many times.
Executive Order, signed by Barry Hussein Soweto, forbids the use of this word more then twice in any online article.
Better still - Washington's equivalent of Napolean's march on Moscow
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Minard.png
I think the current fustercluck is a bit over-hyped...comparing it to Stalingrad? Really? Both sides willing to go All-in? Russia ready to martyr millions in the next Great Patriotic War? The West ready to die for what I have no clue? Oh crap, ya just convinced me. OK, who's move is it?
i smelled bullshit all throughout the article...
then i knew it...
That's inevitable if you have you head up your own ass.
If, in fact, you smelled bullshit (by the way stunning explanation of such) you best blow your nose and take some sudafed.
Helen Keller, if she were still alive today, and anyone with a modicum of common sense, can see this thing coming and exactly as explained.
yes, a very thoughtful comment indeed by preztroll. it certainly takes a lot of intelligence to just say that you know something is bullshit without any explanation whatsoever.
The major thing in the article that was wrong was the comment about the T-34, which was grossly outclassed by most German armor. It was easily destroyed by German antitank weapons, both mounted and man-portable. I have read numerous reports of lone German Tigers wading into 15-20 T-34s and single-shot killing most of them (vastly superior main gun and vastly superior marksmanship), while taking hits from the T-34's grossly inferior main gun. Turret hits by T-34's on the Tigers would sometime stake a divot out of the turret but not otherwise damage the tank. The Tiger, though, was too resource-intense to build and difficult to maintain, so there weren't very many of them.
The T-34 achieved significant numerical superiority, and that was why it was effective IMO. Like a similar piece of Allied junk, the Sherman.
Your comments on the T34 are at best misleading, if not downright incorrect.
For the first couple of years of Barbarossa, the T34 was difficult to take out by existing German armor - only the famous "88" general purpose guns were particulary effective - German tanks not very. There was a lot of correspondence and complaints on this from the German General staff.
One German General in 1941 called the T34 "the finest tank in the world".
The T34 was a nasty surprise for the Germans and slowed the advance into the Soviet Union considerably, arguably being the key factor that doomed the Nazi war effort.
They can't stay out, they have OCD for jumping in. Unless of course they're up against a real army like the Ruskies. DC knows that the Ruskies will inflict real pain and that would make for bad PR and might cost an election.
The worst thing the Z.O.G. in Vichy DC can do right now is lose yet another war, even worse if we lose a protracted war against a real opponent. As of now the PR psyop can spin any defeat because the "terrorists" are somehow "cowardly" for not fighting in conventional terms. To put it in perspective we fight like the British during the revolution who lined up in ranks in open fields while peasant militiamen fired at the from the woods. The "terrorists" are the militiamen just trying to defend their homelands.
I'm not trying to insult the mostly poor and working class economic-conscripts in USA military, but there is leadership failure in the ranks and has been for at least a decade. That failue is becoming entrenched as shit further rises to the top and as once-decent soldiers figure out that the only way to get promoted and rewarded is to toe the PC line, not make waves, and actually do the bare minimum amount of work in order to make the guy who works harder than you get passed up and then wonder why. Hefty amounts of ass kissing never hurt either.
Sad but true. This once great nation is being eroded inside out by a swarm of termites protected by traitorous and secretive sworn killers. Our armed forces are for the most part made up of ordinary conscripts who are nothing but pawns for DC cowards using them to swell their own bankbooks.
fleur you cant say that , that be anti-termitic !
LOL!!
I would like to hear from someone in the armed forces that disagrees with this :
"That failure is becoming entrenched as shit further rises to the top and as once-decent soldiers figure out that the only way to get promoted and rewarded is to toe the PC line, not make waves, and actually do the bare minimum amount of work in order to make the guy who works harder than you get passed up and then wonder why. Hefty amounts of ass kissing never hurt either."
Right as the rest of the civilian population of the USA is busy hero worshiping these unfortunate people, these same unfortunate people are behaving as their long defunct Soviet counterparts did just before the Soviet experiment collapsed.
I'm not in nor ever have been in the military but had breakfast yesterday with a USN Captain and he was telling us that the services are erasing all religion within. Chaplin corps are now becoming populated by rent-a-priests, all crosses, etc., being removed, houses of worship becoming community centers, etc.
And yes, purges of those not PC is rampant. As in booted from the services
Wow, that really surprises me.
I know that there are many men in uniform whose personal religious views are pronounced, and fundamentalist in orientation. This has got to be going over like a lead ballon with them.
And I remember the stories my best friend used to tell me about his career in the USMC (7 years,during the sixties, 2nd Marines), when chapel was mandatory....as was the admonition to "Pray for War"!
Washinton D.C.'s Waterloo.
And yes, stay the F*** out.
Deaf ears, silk purse out of a sow's ears, etc.
What I worry about is this:
http://www.sott.net/article/309034-What-a-big-enough-terror-event-inside...
What if there were massive 'ISIS' attacks on the mainland US? Would this be enough to get the American people clamoring for war? Quote:
"What would cause Obama to change his mind and treat the war against the Islamic State as an existential crisis requiring a major US military intervention? Probably the trigger would be a big, orchestrated terrorist incident that so frightened the public that it began to prevent the normal functioning of America. At that point, Obama might decide there was no alternative to taking ownership of the Middle East mess with tens of thousands of US troops."
I personally hope the military wakes up and takes out OBoy before this ever happens, but hey, war = more $ for the MIC so I fear this might actually be in the cards.
""What would cause Obama to change his mind and treat the war against the Islamic State as an existential crisis requiring a major US military intervention?"
IS wouldn't know what hit them if they ever make a move on his Teleprompter.
My guess is still that the next terrorist event in the US will result in The Donald becoming plasmatized.
Killing two birds with one IED and all that.
911.2
Not Stalingrad , silly. This is more like Gleiwitz. The beginning of the show. You know you have reached Stalingrad when US casualties hold steady above the 6 000 mark. Per day that is. 6 000 per day every day for six months. Which racks up the butcher bill to over 1 200 0000. That´s a lot of marines...way more that actually exist so you will have to get goin´draftin´.
Uhh...forgot. The Germans racked up 850 000 in casualties. So that brings the total sum up to 2 000 000 in 6 months.
Them were some battles.
They won't stay out because it is all planned!
The 4th Reich agenda rolls on unabated......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/the-fix-is-in-franc...
If the Russians and Chinese hold there own peacefully then the U.S. will die from within - they win by keeping the peace.
t-34 was a myth
this tank was shit, poorly manufactured, hard to aim with
sovitet jew machinery did well on propaganda
it was build in such high numbers that they simply overran the germans
to begin of ww2 german tanks were not good either, later on they became to heavy, always stuck in russian mud and nazi-germany run out of gasoline
It sounds like you're describing the disgraceful Sherman Tank. The T-34 was the BEST all-around tank of WWII.
That's my understanding as well.
From wikipedia (Heinz Guderian bolding mine):
The T-34 was a Soviet medium tank that had a profound and lasting effect on the field of tank design. Although its armour and armament were surpassed later in the war, it has been often credited as the most effective, efficient, and influential tank design ofWorld War II.[5] At its introduction, the T-34 possessed an unprecedented combination of firepower, mobility, protection, and ruggedness. Its 76.2 mm (3 in) high-velocity tank gun provided a substantial increase in firepower over any of the T-34's contemporaries;[6] its heavy sloped armour was difficult to penetrate by most contemporary anti-tank weapons. First encountered in 1941, German tank general von Kleist at the time called it "the finest tank in the world"[7] and Heinz Guderian confirmed the T-34's "vast superiority" over existing German armour of the period.[8][9]
oh yes wikipedia the garbage piled up by twisted fanboys and retards is very trustworth and based on reality
I first learned about the Soviet T-34 tank when playing "Panzer Blitz" in high school.
Heinz Guderian's book is a good reference, look for it. One of the top German generals in WWII.
http://chris-intel-corner.blogspot.com/2012/07/wwii-myths-t-34-best-tank-of-war.html
Funny you mention that. I was watching a WWII docu last night that described Germany's weaknesses. They had the BEST engineering overall, yet they insisted on very high quality, which reduced their production capability. Achilles' heel...
Not only the demand for high quality was a problem, also the lack of standardization of parts (many different suppliers and rivalries). On thing the USA did extremely well was the standardization of spare parts, nuts&bolts etc. Complexe logistics suck over a long distance, especially when fuel is running low...
As a side not, who cares about quality if the ultimate goal is getting the job done? AR15 rifles where highly precise (relatively anyway) but most fire fights take place well under 100 yards. Better have an AK if not doing target practice.
Longbow versus crossbow same story
The Russian-speaking Ukrainians in east Ukraine were desperate for armor to help defends themselves against Ukraine's Nazi hordes.
They resorted to using T-34s that had been unprotected open-air monuments. There is a video of them starting one up. It was built in 1943, decommissioned in 1945 and put on the open-air pedestal in 1994. The thing still started and went off to war against Nazis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qSVoPYbveE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd7gy5Aof0U
A very interesting summary. Thanks. (Not that I'm surprised by its conclusions)
Great old Bookcase Game from AH. Lost mine one or two moves back.
But I've still got The Longest Day and War In The East in the back room.
As for references, von Mellenthin's Panzer Battles is better tactically but less useful from a strategic perspective.
Lost mine, too, but I bought another one. Ebay!
You know, it is Christmas and I been good this year...
Panzer Blitz ..... I had that game ..... Damn you must be old ha ha
I played Pong.
http://www.ponggame.org/
The T-34 was a very big surprise but hardly counts as the best tank of the war.
The late Panzer IVs were a rough equivalent except for superior German optics and a 5-man crew that allowed the tank commander to survey the battlefield and make decisions rather than help service the gun as in the 4-man crewed T-34s.
In addition, German tanks had high quality FM radios, while Soviet tanks originally had none at all except in the tanks of the leadership cadre, who then passed on their orders with hand signals. Later on, Soviet tanks used low fidelity AM radio for communication.
The Panzer V (Panther) is generally believed to be the best all-round AFV of the war.
At the time of its introduction, the US Sherman was also a reasonable equivalent of the T-34. Advantages in 5-man crew and radio, reliability (T-34 drivers carried a large hammer to get the tank in and out of gear), and disadvantages in armor design and cross country performance. The later T-34/85 would outgun a Sherman-- except for the British variant Sherman Firefly equipped with the long 17-pounder gun.
But the fighter-bomber eventually came to rule the battlefield, no matter whose tanks were wallowing around on the ground below. Even crews of the mighty German Tigers knew that the safest place to be when under attack from a P-47 or a Typhoon (or a Sturmovik or P-39 Airacobra in the East) was not inside the tank but underneath it.
*golfclap*....Very well written. I find that one of the big elements the T-34 lovers forget was that the Christie suspension on which it was based wasn't used again. The T-34 was the end of that line of necessity/line of military-engineering thought and they moved onto the JS series etc. which, like the Germans used torsion-bar suspensions.
I agree the T-34 was a great case of being in the right place and time and it realistically took Germany 2-years to effectively and consistently counter when the high velocity 7.5's came into play, but it had serious drawbacks that never made it into future models. The 34/85 was the soviet attempt at "more cowbell" and while it was a stopgap to keep the production open, it was outclassed by the Panther in `44.
The Panther was a lovely piece of engineering that once it stopped setting itself on fire while rolling peaceably down the road was a good tank but horribly over engineered in the engine design, especially the block. This coupled to poor gear choices in assemblies led to multiple mechanical issues that the Germans didn't have time to correctly fix. The E series was supposed to be the culmination of the German knowledge from the Panther and Tiger.
And J Walter Christie was an American inventor, whose plans were purchased by the Soviets in the 30s.
Ironic no?....tried to sell it to the USA...they passed...
Here's a very interesting view, from a modern perspective, on the T-34. This guy's reviews are great, and he's a former tanker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRtj_TSOHjw&index=12&list=PLYgipOCaRI02K...
I really like the part about the T-34 loader needing to be very careful if he wanted to keep his legs.
It's amazing that people actually fought in these death traps, because that is exactly what they were; death traps.
the sherman is not a tank it was made out of wood and they had to put a person in the back to mimic the engine sound
lucky people back than were stupid and didnt notice they were fooled
ok... put the crack pipe down and slowly step away...
there is a video about the sherman only 12 minutes long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns6l7sCoWX4
Didn't see the video...don't need to. I think he's talking about the decoys in the UK before Normandy.
This individual appears to be under the influence of drugs that I need to aquire (j/k about the aquire part).
The Sherman was nick-named the "Ronson Lighter" and "Tommy Cooker" by the Brits.
Under powered main gun and thin armor; they had to produce a lot of them, and U.S. Farm Boys.
It was a fine tank for 1942 but should have been phased out as the new German designs (based on their Ostfront experiences) came into production in 1943.
But numbers and a huge air force told the tale.
See Some Farmboys Cook Off Some Farmboys
No description of the Sherman is complete without Deathtrap, fire hazard, Zippo, Ronsons, burning grave, etc....
The KV series of Tanks were awesome too. Could take a hit and keep going. The IS-2's at the end were Epic Tanks. Mother Russia knew and knows how to build blunt instruments of force, like Armor.
The Red Army crushed the Wehrmacht, and chased it all the way to Berlin, and crushed that too. The T-34 was instrumental in the annihilation.
the germand crushed russian army until they run out of fuel
russian army was based nothing and vodka
russians received huge amount of tanks and airplanes from usa and britain, without them they would lose the war in 3 months
what they did is simply outnumbering the germans and jews-rats in russia cruelly sacrificed the russian population, civil and military
The Russians did not receive tanks from the USA, they received significant aid, especially in transport vehicles. Even Stalin admitted that aid from the USA was essential. The weaponry was Russian, except small arms.
Of course the Russians outnumbered them. The Germans attempted to steal a landmass many times larger than their own, and were unable to project power to that extent.
I have to disagree in part. The Russians received thousands of US and British tanks, used primarily along the Volkhov Front outside of Leningrad and in the Caucasus due to the proximity of these fronts to Allied supply lines coming in from Iran and Murmansk. Apart from that, you're on target.
Thanks for the correction. I knew there were gaps in my knowledge. I just didn't know I could have missed that much firepower. Perhaps too many American sources, thus allowing thousands of tanks to slip through.
American and British tanks equipped entire brigades, you don;t see tham because newsreels are for Glorious T-34's and Crews made in Mother Russia. The most significant aid however the Americans provided was trucks and Food. I think it was Zhukov that loved Coke so much he had them make a clear version of it so when he drank it it looked like he was drinking vodka.
Trucks were probably the most important single contribution, as it made it possible to quickly and efficiently form strategic reserves. Without it a stalemate would have been a high possibility as the mobility of the Soviet forces was lacking. Of course the Germans were ill equipped to fight a prolonged conflict, they saw a massive concentration of Soviet firepower to the western districts and were confident they could pull off a France, another fight where they were heavily disadvantaged on paper. Germans made the right call that the Soviet Union was an imminent threat to them, but one can hardly blame them for not knowing just how massive the Soviet war machine had grown by that point. Soviet losses in Operation Barbarossa alone were staggering.
American trucks would be fucking useless in the Russian Thaw.
Everything became useless in the rasputitsa. But American 6x6s, 4x4 weapons carriers, and Jeeps were superior vehicles overall. Pull up some pictures of the Red Army in Berlin. All you'll see are Dodge M-37 weapons carriers towing Russian artillery.
No problem. We all contribute. You had a nice concise summary of a complex topic with one error in it. We all make mistakes and it's not like you're engaged in some sort of deliberate historical revisionism.
I've made my share of them-- usually because I write from memory which can play tricks as the years go by.
Peace.
around 12000 tanks as far as know
5,218 tanks + over 5,000 anti-tank guns from britain alone
"In total, the US deliveries through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386[31] of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans);[32] 11,400 aircraft (4,719 of which were Bell P-39 Airacobras)[33] and 1.75 million tons of food."
What I'd really like to know is how much they got before Stalingrad. Also, how much aid was flowing in before Kursk. After Kursk, and possibly even after Stalingrad, The Red Army would have won any way.
By the way, when I talk about aid, I really mean weapons.
"The Red Army would have won any way." thats true i go sleep now
wtf you posting completly shit man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease_Sherman_tanks
"The Soviet Union's nickname for the M4 medium tank was Emcha because the open-topped figure 4 resembled the Cyrillic letter che or cha (?).[citation needed] The M4A2s used by the Red Army were considered to be much less prone to blow up due to ammunition detonation than T-34 (T-34-76), but tended to overturn in road collisions because of much higher center of gravity.[12]
A total of 4,102 M4A2 medium tanks were sent to the U.S.S.R. under Lend-Lease. Of these, 2,007 were equipped with the 75 mm gun, and 2,095 carried the 76 mm gun. The total number of Sherman tanks sent to the U.S.S.R. under Lend-Lease represented 18.6% of all Lend-Lease Shermans.[13]
The first 76-mm-armed Shermans started to arrive in Soviet Union in late summer of 1944.[14] In 1945, some units were standardized to depend mostly on them, and not on the ubiquitous T-34: 1st Guards Mechanized Corps, 3rd Guards Mechanized Corps, and 9th Guards Mechanized Corps.[14]"
whats about the M3? its an american tank too
Thanks for the correction. By 1944, The Soviet Union was already well on their way to winning the war. They would most certainly have done so without the armaments you've mentioned, delivered a year after The Battle of Kursk.
And their best weapon was Winter.
Don't forget the code breaking teams in England.
The Russians had the German's battle plans from before Kursk onwards. This gave them a huge strategic advantage. The T-34s swamped the Germans by shear numbers, helped by knowing where to send them for maximum effect.
This aspect, along with the Allies supplies (apart from the Arctic convoys), is under-reported.
If you want to talk about 'myths' then you should be talking about the myth of American weapon superiority. It isn't, and you should educate yourself. The only thing superior about american weaponry is it's price tag.
the american p-39 and p-63 were one of the best prop planes in ww2
soveits used them as land lease and had huge success with them
but zionist america won the war differnt they used their brain. first they funded communists, later they funded nazis
the they let them fight each other and took over west europe later after su-collapse east europe too, forcing them into eu and creating nwo
now we jews won against you iditos
and you fought aganst each other like the last retards for ideologies, made and funded by us
well done, all of you lost the war and now you sit with muslim immigrants and praise multiculturalism and diversity, while watching with your family niggers playing soccer on tv
israel is one of the most perfect nazi states in the world and no one dares even to question <-what the nazi wanted for themselves is what israel is today
Whay a load of crap ! P-39 was a piece of flying shit with pathetic performances at high altitude, and mediocre at best at low altitude. Neither the Americans nor the Brits wanted them so the government dumped the bastard to such "allies" as the French and the Soviets. P-63 was another aborted attempt to fix the first abomination (the P-39). It wasn't adopted by Americans and it was dumped again onto the Russians because there "everything goes". Luckily, in the end the Russians proved to be smart enough to design and build their own machines.
Oh, and T-34 kicked the Krauts ass all the way from Stalingrad to Berlin. Some of them were good enough to fight the Ukrainean losers in Donbass, some 70 years later...
Disagree.
The best fighter aircraft then were F4U corsair,F6F Hellcats, P51, P47 and P38's
trash
You're a moron.
I will ask my kid. He has fought them all against all others in what seemed like realistic games to me, and knew every single technical detail of every single tank in WWII.
He is in his weekly language lesson just now, I will come back.
This is my latest : an amnesty program for Israeli-Neocons.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/12/23/amnesty-program-for-israel...
He says not as good as Panzers in practice, they lost 4 T-34s for every Panzer lost. He says all Germans were flat armour and had lousy drive trains. T-34 was a more advanced design, e.g. sloped armour because that was savings in metal and Russia was losing them so fast they were short, and better, but Russians had poor traiing relative to Germans.
Nice to have an expert available for WWII weapons. Ask me about machine guns.
ZB26
The key difference between the panzers and Russian armor was simple: COMMUNICATION. German tanks had radios, so they could communicate with each other, this was especially important during combat. In the case of Russian armor, only the commander's tank was equipped with a radio, where he could only speak with headquarters behind the lines. So at the beginning of an action, the Russian commander would tell his other tank commanders what he wanted done, and after that, it was every man for himself when things didn't go according to plan, which was often the case. Then, they would began to fight as an individual unit, which is contrary to armor warfare theory which stresses fighting as a unit to achieve victory {and survival}. Fighting as individuals, they were easy to pick off one by one in quick succession. At the Third Battle of Kharkov, panzer ace Kurt Meyer destroyed 28 Russian tanks and tank destroyers in an hour.The Russians won because even though their losses were horrendous, they could always make good on them, whereas the Germans couldn't.
Not gasoline (petrol).. Diesel.. and there goes your credibility.
gasoline?
you mean diesel
Bullshit, In 1941 the T34 was the best tank in the world, bar none.
If you want your Special Drawing Rights...
I've always said that is the reason they are trying to provoke Russia.
Accept Your Medicine BankFucks.
Good thing our Government isn't digging miles and miles of underground bunkers.. I mean who gets to survive, where is the printed list of who gets the Bunker badges. do you buy them, or do you just kiss a lot of Ass
Grundle sniffing goes a long way in Vichy DC.
+1000 for 'Grundle sniffing'!
Had to look that up....good on ya!
>and the overwhelming manufacturing power of the US
Which by all measures is completely gone today.
Even if the war in Syria winds down, the new theater of war will be Europe beginning in 2016
"The hard core of the battle-hardened jihadists now fanning out across Europe understands the tried-and-true process of igniting a civil war through terror. They will calculate that the European military and police cannot and will not sustain the battle against an unceasing campaign of terrorism. Brussels cannot remain on virtual lockdown forever without its economy being wrecked. What will happen when a Paris-type attack, or worse, is a daily event in a dozen European cities?"
From http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/11/tet-take-two-islams-2016-european-offen...
According to Fabrice Balanche, a French expert on terrorism, there are now over 2000 jihadists in France.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3AiWPQMAy0
So far, the indications are that all the European 'terrorist' attacks have been FFs.
You do see that, right?
Fabrice Balanche is a visiting fellow at the Washington Institute. He says whatever Washington pays him to say.
About 30 years ago, I read a lot of New York Times microfilm, from newspapers immediately after the German attack on The Soviet Union, on June 22, 1941. The "experts" thought the Russians would last anywhere from 6 weeks, to 3 months.
Hitler thought that he (paraphrasing here) only needed to kick the door in, and the entire rotting edifice would come tumbling down.
Hitler was crazy, but he was a lot smarter than any asshole we've had, for a very long time.
I don't think the analogy with WWII is valid, unless there's a nuclear war. Germany had much of its population serving outside Germany, whereas the US has almost none of its serving overseas. The US is really just "playing war", not actually fighting one. And - as we speak - the US still has the world's #1 reserve currency, which is in no *immediate* danger of collapsing.
Depends a lot on your def of 'immediate'.
I think last month was the first net negative treasury bond sale. They were (nearly) all bought by CBs and foreigners sold more than were bought by private purchasers.
That means that rolling over the $18T national debt is now onto entirely created fiat electrons.
$1T/year ==> 10% inflation according to Shadowstats. What will $5T / year produce? How much of its purchasing power need be lost for you to consider it a collapse?
I think 3 years to the end of this government. SS will not be increased in purchasing power as inflation accelerates, we will have people starving in the streets in 3 years. 10% + 20% + 30%* is very optimistic, given $11T of newly created fiat. A $2000 pension check / month becomes $800. Many pensions are less than $2000.
That much inflation will lay waste to the US economy. Seen any of this priced into anything?
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/27/ignoring-the-absolutely-in...
And the beginning of the solution to our problems :
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/12/23/amnesty-program-for-israel...
*Yes, I didn't compound the inflation, this is really optimistic.
I'm sure monsanto will help the starvers.
To keep a perspective on future population numbers as TPTB projects them, it's always good to refresh your memory at this site...a gaze into the MIC abyss... http://www.deagel.com/country/United-States-of-America_c0001.aspx
And check out who Deagle really is before you blow these numbers off...
Beware the Lamb!!!
<-- Obomination that causes desolation
Abomination that causes desolation
ONly demented Russians could think that American bombing runs in eth Middle East culd have anything to do with Stalingrad.
This is what comes of drinking Latvian paint stripper for 1 week 6 days solid.
Now, as always, militarily and political leaders keep re-learn that Bandwidth and Entropy are unrelenting masters of man.
S/N is a measure of that.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/07/18/signal-to-noise-in-real-li...
Thre pertol dollar relied on hav'ing the biggest player on the dollar's side, minons following and that is looking like it will change.. The Kings of the sand are about to be dethrowned. Quatar, the Saud and Turkey are on the virge of self destruction and I think that there are some insider manipulators that are goinmg to make a big profit. The key indicator is BeBe.. sucking up to the Russians.
"the well-led and highly motivated American forces with the best in weaponry, aircraft and carriers"
Are you serious? Morale was only lower when we were in Vietnam.
Maybe the author hasnt heard about the 6 soldiers recently killed in afghanastan when they're M4s jammed and they were overrun. Or the USS milwaukee. Or the F35.
Then theres this:
what frightened the USS Donald Cook so much in th black sea?
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.htmlAnd this:
Russia scambles the controls of the USS Ronald Reagan and the entire 7th fleet.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article189241.html
That weapon made things very dangerous, imho.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/11/22/if-windows-crashes-wwiii/
Awesome article ...thank you.
A grinding war that bankrupted the old Soviet union will do the same to the US socialistic party in Washington.
The Bush/Obama War is already worse then Vietnam. Yet ... not a peep on college campuses about all the bloodshed and misery, other then a protest or two about a buildings name or the Mexican food offending their "sensibilities."
Be honest! You love burritos and chips and salsa.
I had fun with the chicks too....
I didn't know what "eye poppy" meant until my yard guy explained it to me.
Pretty obvious that's because they are not being drafted.
All the Vietnam protests were by people looking out for themselves, not for Vietnam.
Brilliant! It is so true...I dare say that it CANNOT be true that the Government KNOWS this and thus will not institute a draft unless we do indeed go to full scale war...it'll be too late by then to get our act together....they might in fact have to draft retired Colonels, Commanders, etc....
....and that generation of protesters is running the show now, and STILL looking out for themselves...
It's not Stanlingrad, its the Bay of Pigs redux.
Squid
Germany did not lose the war because they were outnumbered and fighting on too many fronts. They lost the war because they could not begin to match the industrial output of the allied nations. Germany's failure to knock the UK out of the war in 1941 before they opened a second front in Russia also sealed there doom. The UK was both the launch pad for Operation Overlord in 1944 and US-UK strategic bombing from 1942 onward.
Washington is screwed for different reasons. Globalist captured the US political, academic, media and financial systems with the intent on destroying it's position as a super power and sovereign nation. I believe the Rubicon has been crossed, and there is no saving the US from it's demise. The people also suffer from a serious lack of understanding as to why and how it is in the predicament in the first place. I doubt they even care.
"[...] Political Correctness Is Just Fascism By Another Name"
Agree 100%.
This is one of the truest one-liners I've read in 2015.
May I just add a little spice of skepticism to your sauce :
PC as a notion is a multiedged sword :
PC for the Pax Americana elites means one thing to defend their fiat/oil/MIC empire construct.
PC for Ayatollah Iran means another thing and its based on "iranian patriotism" bieng mixed to "shia theocracy"; never a good thing if you remember the time line of christianity's own "soldier-monk" credo. It did end badly for Pope and divine right feudality.
PC for Saud Wahhabism is similar to Shia concoction; EXCEPT it is historically surrogate to Pax Americana's hegemony in oil patch, not its dire enemy as is Shia IRan.
PC for Mutti is the domination of Eurozone based on her mercantilist economic model, hiding behind the Euro construct to impoverish the Southern Club Med plebes. All this in the context of being a US surrogate militarily under Nato.
PC for China is being world factory selling to consumerista West but tied to the money line of debt infested $, all the while emulating the same debt spiral to kick start local consumption.
So much for the reality behind the term "PC"...it means different things to different power constructs.
But from Pax Americana's perspective (the dominant matrix) you be spot on !
Only problem is that its tied in with the rest...and DAT....
One could also describe PC as a sister condition of "group-think". under which people are pressured, and often required, to conform to a particular opinion, viewpoint or agreement on virtually any subject. Sanctions are often applied to dissenters.
In this context it will of course have different interpretations in different countries and in different situations.
Group-think is a very widespread condition across all manner of organisations and it does a lot of damage. One of the world's worst examples of it at this time is the UN/IPCC and its repetitive bellyaching about AGW. Any cult, religious or not, will also practice group-think and dissenters are dealt with, often with extreme prejudice.
Underlying these conditions is the pressure "to comply or conform" with whatever the societal leaders, manipulators and progressives demand.
Stalingrad? No such luck.
This time the bad guys have atomic weapons. Hillary's not going to quietly check out with Huma in an underground bunker---much less agree to a fair trial. She, and the rest of the master class, are determined that if they cannot rule the planet nobody will. And now they have the means to see that the Jonestown Option is applied in full.
Catch 22 for the USA, start a large limited war, opponents being Russia and China.
The internet = digital communications will be hit first and then there will be no electronic trading.
Now try and make a trillion dollars a day or even print the stuff.
How you going to make that electronic payment of billions of dollars, it ain't happening.
That I think is the weakeness of anybody who wants to be a superpower now.
All this electronic form of trading is needed just to run the algos who pump and dump the markets for existence.
From the book of war:
Rule 1: Do not march on Moscow.
Rule 2: Do not go fighting with your land armies in China.
Stalingrad would not have happened if Hitler had nukes. So in today's world I don't thiink the comparison is valid.
Wrong. Hitler was neaeer nukes than the Us was in 1941
How many did Hitler use against us?
Had Japan not attacked Pearl Harbour Stalingrad would have been different. Had Japan attacked the USSR in the East as planned Zhukhov could not have moved his troops to the West and had fresh divisions to fight wearied German, Italian and Romanian ones.
Stalingrad paralleled El Alamein and that was a collapsing two-front with trapped German forces.
That is the full implication for the USA and I suspect the JCS is well aware that the US could end up defeated not just in Afghanistan and Iraq but Libya, Syria and Europe
The West won't stay out because it is all planned!
The 4th Reich agenda rolls on unabated......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/the-fix-is-in-franc...
While re reading Stalingrad serves as a very good blueprint for what's to come, I suggest a re read of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein as to how we got here. All the Boris Karloff movies have done the subtext of Shelley's book a great disservice.
The subtext of the book is about a self absorbed (arrogant) doctor (Victor Frankenstein) who creates life from assorted body parts which then, once given life, goes on to terrorize the world, as the monster, soon gets out of its master's control and attempts to force its benefactor to create a 'mate' (a she) so that it (he) can reproduce.
Modern day Dr Frankensteins are the Wolfowicz's, Brzeinskis's and Kissinger's who gave rise to our current middle east monster (or the Rothschild's and Rockefeller's who gave rise to 1917 Communism) thinking it would serve their goals and are later desparate to get it back under their control.
“Darkness had no effect upon my fancy; and a churchyard was to me merely the receptacle of bodies deprived of life.” Dr. Victor Frankenstein.
The USA dips into your pockets every two weeks and steals 50% of your money and then sends it to the Mideast which means the same thing as taking your money and burning right in front of your eyes....How does that feel, 'Merikan tax donkeys?....
Mr. Holland a brilliant summary of what "ails us" within the Anglo-American establishment.
Unfortunately you left out the differences between warfare in Europe in 1945 to the realities called "escalation" in 2015 that can go from what was horrific 70 years ago to the "unthinkable" based on both rational and irrational "intake"!...
Oh Merry Xmas everyone!!!
The egos of leaders has more impact on victory and defeat than Generals and weapons. Hitler's ego made him demand the capture of Stalingrad even after it's factories had been destroyed and was no longer a real threat. Had he turned south to the oil fields things might have been different. Will Obama's ego make him keep demanding Assad's removal and risk a greater conflict, even though Syria will be incapacitated for years ?
Unfortunately they didn't take Stalingrad.