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This Is Canada's Depression: Surging Crime, Soaring Suicides, Overwhelmed Food Banks "And The Worst Is Yet To Come"
Back in March, we brought you “Drugs, Prostitution, Violence Plague Oil Boom Towns Gone Bust,” in which we detailed the plight of towns like Sidney and Bainville, Montana, where the slump in oil revenue has made it all but impossible for local authorities to cope with surging crime rates that some attribute to the influx of oil workers the communities experienced in the good old days of high crude prices.
The problem, apparently, was that despite the dramatic slump in oil, companies hadn’t yet begun to cut jobs or slash capex and so, officials were left with less money to put towards policing their growing populations.
As dangerous as it may be for small towns to experience exponential growth in what The Washington Post described as “highly paid oil workers living in sprawling ‘man camps’ with limited spending opportunities,” what’s even more dangerous is the prospect that suddenly, the majority of those workers will be jobless. That is, if there’s anything that’s more conducive to raising the crime rate than legions of highly paid young men living in small towns with “limited spending opportunities,” it’s legions of formerly highly paid young men stuck in small towns with limited job opportunities.
With that in mind, America can look north to Calgary for a preview of what’s in store for America’s oil boom towns.
Although Alberta’s largest city bares little resemblance to Sidney and Bainville, the three do have one thing in common: oil. "Calgary boasted one of the lowest jobless rates in Canada as crude prices rose over $100 a barrel [but] it’s now reeling after a global glut pushed prices down by two-thirds,” Bloomberg notes.
For our part, we’ve spent quite a bit of time documenting the city’s trials and travails:
- "Canada Crude Contagion: Calgary Home Prices Drop Most In 2 Years"
- "Canada's Biggest Oil Casualty To Date: Calgary's Nexen Shutters Oil Trading Desk"
- "The Canadian Housing Bubble Has Begun To Burst"
- "Canada's Oil Patch Confidence Crashes"
- "Canada Mauled by Oil Bust, Job Losses Pile Up – Housing Bubble, Banks at Risk"
- "The Stage Is Set For A Massive Housing Market Correction in Canada's Oilpatch"
As we noted earlier this year, resource revenue makes up nearly a third of Alberta's annual revenue:
"Alberta’s real GDP is expected to expand in 2015, but at a much slower pace of 0.6%. This is down from the Second Quarter forecast of 2.8%," provincial authorities wrote in March, in their quarterly fiscal update. That underscores just how significant the swift decline in crude prices is for the province. Since then, the government's projection for 2015 GDP has fallen by a full percentage point, as the economy is now expected to contract by 0.6%. Here's more from the latest fiscal update:
The sharp decline in oil prices has substantially reduced capital spending in the energy sector. Oil and gas investment is expected to fall over 30% in 2015, with weakness carrying into 2016. Conventional investment has been hit especially hard. Rig activity has declined almost 50% through the first seven months of 2015.
Lower oil prices are weighing on production and exports. Although exports remain an important driver in Alberta’s economy, the forecast for oil production has been revised lower since March. This mainly reflects unplanned disruptions in oil sands production and the significant slowdown in conventional drilling. In addition, weakness in the oil and gas sector has spread to other sectors of the economy. Alberta machinery manufacturing has fallen 20% since January. This can be mainly traced to declining industrial machinery and equipment manufacturing, which primarily serves the oil industry.
Needless to say, this has had a dramatic impact on jobs. As we reported on Tuesday, Canada is expected to lose some 100,000 oil and gas sector jobs by the end of the year. Jobs like those Jillian Berling-MacKenzie, 25, and her boyfriend used to have. Here's Bloomberg:
Jillian was one of the lucky few of her graduating geology class to secure full-time work this year, at oil company ConocoPhillips. She bought a house with her boyfriend, also a newly graduated geologist with a job, before they both became victims of the cuts. A friend’s company has provided some contract work paying slightly more than employment insurance as Berling-MacKenzie tries to land positions just about anywhere, seeing no postings she qualifies for in her field.
And then there's Keely Eng, 27, who was fired from an engineering position in March at Nexen and is now so worried about her future in the field that she simply threw in the towel and decided to go to medical school:
The dearth of opportunities has Keely Eng, 27, seeking a career change. Eng was let go from an engineering position in March at Nexen, the Cnooc Ltd. subsidiary. Dreading an extended job hunt, Eng took medical school exams and has applied to several programs.
And don't forget about Kevin Mulligan, 61, who was let go by Stampede and now works with his wife making Christmas decorations:
Kevin Mulligan, 61, was among Stampede workers who “got the Tuesday boot,” he said. The former park maintenance manager, six years from retirement, is helping his wife with a Christmas wreath-making side business to supplement severance payments while job-hunting.
“My new job is finding a job,” Mulligan said.
As The Financial Post notes, Alberta's troubles go beyond falling crude prices. "Apart from the protracted price declines, Alberta’s oil and gas sector has also had to contend with a 20 per cent hike in corporate taxes, a carbon tax and new regulatory policies to limit rein in carbon emissions," the Post writes, adding that "a new provincial royalty regime is to be announced in January, leaving Alberta oil and gas producers under a cloud of uncertainty [while] the new federal government also plans to unveil new policies, including a review of the regulatory process, which the sector sees as more burden in an already difficult environment for the industry."
As we pointed out three weeks ago, the real casualties in Canada are no longer metaphorical economic objects, but the very people who until recently enjoyed comfortable lives only to succumb to an unprecedented collapse in the local economy. According to the chief medical examiner's office, 30% more Albertans took their lives in the first half of this year compared to the same period last year. Here are the numbers:
- From January to June 2014, there were 252 suicides in Alberta.
- During the same period this year, there were 327.
- If the trend continues, Alberta could be on track for 654 suicides this year.
- In an average year, there are 500, according to the Centre for Suicide Prevention.
Well, in the latest abysmal news out of Alberta, Bloomberg reports that food bank use and crime are now soaring amid the protracted slide in crude. "Calgary’s unemployment rate rose to 6.9 percent in November from 4.6 percent a year earlier, Statistics Canada data show, as 21,100 more were put out of work," Bloomberg writes. "Home sales have fallen 21 percent this year as the average price skidded 2.6 percent, according to the Calgary Real Estate Board." Here's more:
Crime is rising, home prices are falling and food banks are overwhelmed in Calgary as job losses spread. And the worst isn’t yet over in the heart of Canada’s oil patch.
Some of the city’s largest employers are poised to cut more jobs in 2016 as they reduce spending for a second straight year, adding to an estimated 40,000 oil and natural gas positions lost across the nation since the crude price rout began 18 months ago.
“We all know someone who has lost a job,” Naheed Nenshi, the city’s mayor, said in a speech this month, lamenting the “funeral"-like atmosphere in the business community.
Brown Bagging for Calgary’s Kids is providing 16 percent more school lunches than in September -- about 2,900 across 187 schools. The rise is unprecedented, said Tanya Koshowski, the group’s executive director. Food bank use jumped 23 percent in Alberta in the year ended March 2015, the country’s biggest increase, according to Food Banks Canada.
Police are pointing to economic decline and rising drug use to explain Calgary’s crime surge. In the first 10 months of 2015, commercial break-ins almost doubled from a year earlier, bank robberies were up 65 percent and home invasions increased 52 percent, Calgary Police Service data show.
Here are the graphs from CPS:


And here are the visuals from Food Banks Canada:

While it's not possible to definitively identify the proximate cause, it seems clear that the same mindset which is driving the suicide rate higher is also compelling Albertans to commit crimes. As Nancy Bergeron, who has answered distress centre phone lines for a few years, puts it, "people are just at wit's end."
Why? Because, as we put it previously, "simply because the price of a commodity has dropped to a third of what it was just over a year ago, and the shocking impact has been a paralysis of every aspect of financial, economic and social life, first in Alberta, and soon everywhere else across Canada, as the local recession (on its way to a depression) spreads across the country and eventually crosses the U.S. border."
One person who isn't concerned is Greg Cosma, a 58-year-old engineer was let go from Cenovus in October and now builds houses for Habitat For Humanity as a volunteer.
His message to new graduates hoping to find gainful employment in Canada's oil patch: “If you’re good at something, you have a future. Don’t sweat it.”
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Don't worry Canada, the US will sacrifice a few more soldiers to make sure the flow of heroin continues. Self medication is the best cure for joblessness and hunger.
A depression, eh?
Canucks, does it feel like a depression up there?
Would feel much more sympathy if in the past every time i told a Canadian what was going on with fiat central bank neofuedalism, I got a PC progressive more gov't will fix it answer. And there was NOOO way the govt was in on it. Talking about moneychangers is also anti semetic.
Banging my head into that wall got old.
The pain hasnt even started yet....
Lifes hard, its even harder when you're stupid.
RIPS
Disclaimer. Theres retards everywhere...canadians have a smug retardeness to them thats passively obsurd.
Oh Great, now that Canada is melting down, are we to expect millions of Canucks sneaking into America to mooch off our welfare systems?
TORONTO — Police are searching for two suspects after a home invasion left a homeowner and their neighbour tied up and robbed at gunpoint in Ajax on Friday night.
Durham Regional Police said the homeowner answered a knock at the door and a suspect forced his way into the house armed with a handgun in the Westney Road and Kingston Road area at about 6:15 p.m.
A second suspect, who was also armed, entered the house shortly after and police said the homeowner was assaulted and their hands were tied while the other suspect robbed the house.
Police said a neighbour came to the house while the robbery was occurring and they were forced inside by a suspect and tied up.
Police described the suspects as follows:
Black male aged 19 to 22 years old standing 5’8" tall with a slim build and wearing a blue hooded jacked, blue jeans and white running shoes.
Black male aged 19 to 22 years old standing 6’0" tall with a medium build and wearing a black hooded jacket, black pants and black running shoes.
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Bringing their Scandanavian "Social Democracy" solution with them.
I would bet a sandwich that not 1 in 10 canadians know what a FULL RECOURSE LOAN is.
They are a'boot Fooked...cue 25k "refugees" to seal the deal.
RIPS
Instead of the Scandanavian solution, after the banksters are finished raping them, the Canucks will get the Final Solution.
Talk about Cog Dissonance..they think they are free and in control of their system..but have a queen on their currency and are a CROWN CORPORATION.
A Canadian will tell you its nostalgia.
RIPS
The USSA is no different, and it's official name is 'Virginia Company'.
AS an American i can say, "at least I know that much".
RIPS
Now might be a great time to take the queen off your money.
Maybe stick a moose on there....or something.
If you live in any country that begins with the letters A to Z - your screwed.
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Every nation has been inflitrated by them.
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This is a war of our minds and spirits now...always was.
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Andre: OK. Yes, we are bored. We're all bored now. But has it ever occurred to you Wally that the process that creates this boredom that we see in the world now may very well be a self-perpetuating, unconscious form of brainwashing, created by a world totalitarian government based on money, and that all of this is much more dangerous than one thinks? and it's not just a question of individual survival Wally, but that somebody who's bored is asleep, and somebody who's asleep will not say no?
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My Dinner with Andre (1981)
We need a fact check on this. I mean Michael Moore said that there is no gun violence in Canada so this story can't be right......
They need some real media companies up there that can identify these as Syrian terrorists and report it to them.
Moore is right that the incidence of gun violence is far lower in Canada than the USA. It is not zero here and he never claimed it was.
There are 89 guns per 100 people in the USA ve 31 per 100 in Canada.
According to a report by the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, roughly 11,000 homicides were committed using firearms in the U.S. in 2011. Statistics Canada reports in the same year Canada had 158 homicides committed using firearms.
US population is about 10x higher than Canada, so that makes the US gun homicide rate about 7x higher.
Also gun homicides with a legal registered firearm are very rare here in Toronto. Most are illegal unregistered weapons that find their way here from the US.
If you take away the murders in "gun free zones " in America you will see that America has the lowest murder rate per 100,000 people per capita in the world , so that means in the places that people can carry guns or have them at home we are very civilized . Of course I would stay away from the gun free one as they are pretty dangerous .
Thank you Abit
Your application to work at CNN et al is soundly rejected
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/more-than-3000-washington-priso...
"Yes we can!"
Any Albertans who are sad and depressed about their conditions are welcome to come live in Detroit.
It Is Fucking Insane...
The MSM is harping about the 25K Syrians not arriving fast enough by Dec-end. ITS THE TOP FUCKING NEWS!!!
MEANWHILE almost nothing about the CAD hitting decade LOWS, and prices jacked up almost weekly...
PS... In uS you have a PC MSM. In cDA you have PC MSM on Steriods...
hm all as nurses at $42.00 per hour and ship them to the usa OR mandate that theu pay nurses $42 per hour up there and institute obamacare on canada
Next Up... CAD vs PESO...
O CANADA that's what is all left a beautiful national anthem
<sarc>
I forgot?
Probably more like 120 guns per 100 people in the USA. If one were to exclude a certain demographic, so called gun violence in the US would be about on par or below any western European country you might care to name.
And that is the real elephant in the room that no one, especially the MSM and the gun grabbing lefty Multii-culters ever want to address.
The USA does not have a gun problem it has a Black problem.
On second thought the left does address it but only in the sense of throwing more money after the trillions that have already been wasted.
#BlackViolenceMatters
good one
What you Canadians need are some liberal/Democrat run cities to get your numbers up...how about we give you say...Chicago, Detroit, New York, Camden, Stockton, Cleveland, Memphis, LA, New Orleans and a few others -only Democrat run hell-holes, mind you. Then you can have the big numbers and we wil be a quiet, peaceful nation once again.
@opp.knocks - you have to contextualise the stats with the fact that the vast majority of gun crime is gang related (black on black).
that's not actually true:
http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-doj-statistics-on-race-and-violent...
blacks commit more violent crimes per capita than whites but not the majority (much less vast majority) of violent crimes since there are so many more whites. and indeed each race seems to pick on its own.
also the meme about mass shootings being in gun free zones because they are gun free is basically untrue. the crimes are committed largely in schools or workplaces where the shooters have a relationship and find those they wish to kill, not because the places are gun free. that so many shooters kill themselves or die in "suicide by cop" shootouts is another reason to doubt this argument.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/03/24/nras-gun-free-zone-myth...
p.s. few mass shooters in non gun free zones have been stopped by fire from civilians.
No offense but you must be careful about mixing your auguments. Mixing violent crime with gun crime and or homicide. Also remember the huge number of gun homicides that are suicides. Take suicides out of gun crime/homicice and the numbers are waaaaay different. Canadas gun homicide rate is low due to the Indian suicide method in Canada is different than in the US.
they could put debbie stratton on their money. that would be tight. perhaps morbid though... there's probably a happier canadian fleshpot they could employ.
all countries should dispense with pics of presidents and queens and such on their money, and switch over to poledancer types.
usa should have bettie page.
all of this president or mao or lenin or queen/king stuff is creepy though...
oops... dorothy stratten, not 'debbie stratton'
Eric Roberts shotgunned her point-blank.
That can't be right. Neither of them are black. You need to re-check your facts.
NOW would be a great time for every Canadian commet maker here to contribute a few bucks to COMER; in support of the lawsuit that winding it's way through courts. Fed gov. is presently making time-wasting dismissal motions trying to slow it down.
Trudeau Libs implied a need for some type of investment bank to fund infrastructure and other loans within Canada. FOOLS FOOLS FOOLS.....that is what COMER is fighting for. This funding already exists.
After the queen dies.... we'll have Charles and he looks very Moose like.
If we ask nicely maybe Greece and Ukraine can help us out.
If more Americans understood what 'Virginia Company' means and the very deep effect that "founding American institution" has had on American politics and social system! Unlike The Massachusetts Bay Colonyfurther north which, though founded on strict relegious grounds, had a measure of personal freedom and responsibility. The Virginia Company was slave based and ignorant. White slaves and black slaves both came to work for the Company. It's system turned into the Deep South and much of modern American social order.
miniscule, tiny amounts of people understand the legal structure of Virginia corp. CROWN corps,,,reason why legally a birth certificate is written in CAPITAL LETTERS. Captured from birth.
Follow the money and legalese down to the real (hidden) sources.
In a similiar vein, for Americans: If you don't understand the ol' switcheroo that was played on who has jurisdiction in the States united, you really should get the news.
This guy (MD) has had a number of actions at law to try to force a finding on the substance of what is claimed regarding federal jurisdiction within the states of the original American compact.
Time well spent...
https://supremecourtcase.wordpress.com/
as a foreigner, I have always felt that slavery never actually left America.
it was just watered down and has been extrapolated more and more on a wider and wider spectrum of population
Kind of what Romans did with a religion of slaves (christianity)
The Northeastern finance capitalists figured out in the mid-19th century that it is a lot more profitable to outsource your slaves. You can pay them nearly nothing, as you don't lose anything if they die. Never pay one cent above the bare minimum required to keep them coming back to do your work for you.
But if you officially owned slaves, you'd have an interest in makind sure they weren't too ill to work, or too stupid, or too malnourished.
if more folks understood what your getting at - there would be a social revolution in at least the more developed nations
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the canadian i never wanted to know: bernie ebbers of worldcom fame..wonder if he is outta jail, those were the good ol days when the elite went to jail.
For me, that Canadians and Canadian stay there.
I never saw so many people standing nose!
Canadian women have not butt (formula: the higher the pressure in the ass dick head).
Canadian men do not know how to speak French or Spanish.
Some speak English.
The only thing in common is that all are fucked with or without Mounted Police.
hehe.
Wow. That writing the product of the US school system?
How funny, seeing a cacophony of words coming from an English linguistics expert like you. What, you're Brazilian?
Thanks for sharing your Stream of Unconsciousness with us.
Peidos cão aleatórias manchar os ventos do Brasil!
@ Main,
Yep! Spot on. The Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. Bankrupted via The Banking Emergency Act of 1933 run by The City of London & owned by The Vatican City Assassins
It makes me ill thinking about it.
Yeah and the MSM in the USA drool and idolizes over Princess Diana, Charlie, that new gal that prince is married to and a slew of others and how many treat the POTUS like a God? The lot of you.
Me, I would arrest him or tell him/her to leave. If he or she has two legs, arms and a head it aint no God or anything else to idolize.
RIPS is
correct:
Canadians have smug retardedness.
So, Canadian's really are "EXCEPTIONAL!!!" Man, I've been waiting a long time to serve that up.
Nice & cold ;-)
I do what I can.
Great writeups.
Cheers.
RIPS
Canadians have yet to paint everything as "exceptionalism" so the reason for patting yourself on the back for that would be? Shit state of global finance, stellar foreign policy or foreign resource rape?
As an "exceptional American", thank you. Every time I hear how exceptional we are from some sack of shit politician I want to shove that fucking flag lapel pin down their throat.
Any other country in the world doing what the US has done over the past 50 years alone would be a pariah state. Not us. We're EXCEPTIONAL.
Exceptional at deluding ourselves regarding just about everything done in our name.
LOL, nmewn, so why are you still waiting to recognize any vestige of 911 truth? Mighty suspicious to me.
Many friggin smart retards I see around my Canadian home . Some are Canadian but here there are many Yanks that come to lure eagles to death under hydro wires in order to take photos. Yanka who come and illegally flaunt fishing limits with sneers. I see Yanks who arrive and use this place as their moral toilet.
Frig you. Why should you be allowed to take 3X the limit of wild Pacific salmon and then throw a fit if you are caught? RETARDS? Canadians have been looking down on US idiocy for decades. US are the uneducated, trailer trash.
Even though you Canadians are arrogant ignorant leftists, I sincerely hope you don't destroy yourselves with 'diversity' like we did in the US. You still have a chance, and your politics can be corrected. Your demographics, once destroyed, cannot.
The Hard Left does much of the yapping in Canada and being in absolute control of the CBC provided them with quite the platform for decades. This last election loss was one part Liberals promising everything to everyone and one part mistrust of Harper's TPP dealings which were successfully pitched as him handing over complete control to the US. The TPP conspiracy rumours really changed a lot of people's minds here. The TPP was seen by many as the final destruction of Canadian manufacturing that had barely survived NAFTA.
Canada just needs some whetbax. Whetbax are what is keeping America's booming economy going. I know because
Diberisty bee hour screnfs.
"I would bet a sandwich that not 1 in 10 canadians know what a FULL RECOURSE LOAN is"
FYI, there is no full recourse in Alberta or Saskatchewan. There is a reason they call it the wild west.
Not true at all. Nearly all residential mortgage loans in Alberta or Saskatchewan are full recourse as they are written by Bank Act institutions.
Ok should have put in if you have 20% or more for down payment
Oh looky, Canadians speaking of "sovereign law" and banking acts, this is absolutely wonderful!!!...God Save the Queen!!!...lmao!!!
I bought my home outright, like the vehicles/toys/watch and coin collection. I got nothing on the subject.
No one will take that bet because Canadian watch too much American TeeVee;
- They think they have Miranda riights
- They quote Chapter 11 bankruptcy
Likely 1 in 100 would not know, just like they don't know how our money is created.
You are right: 1) life is hard and 2) few know the difference between recourse and non-recourse loans. A Canadian I met co-signed for a mortgage for his daughter but I don't think he read it. He complained about the high price of the house though which is a sure sign of disaster.
Volunteered, once, at a food bank... at best, 20% were truly needy... the rest were either fat, well dressed, iPhone equipped, driving a late model car or even less needy... I swear Hillary even walked through to make free use of our bathroom.
A Canadian I know all too well picked up 6 properties in Vegas so that his employees wouldn't have to hotel it on his birthday bash. Another I worked directly with for 17 years ditched to an American National for a premium 6 months before the bottom fell out of Potash. My wife's uncle was the 10th largest buyer of horse flesh in the state of Kentucky two years running and bugged out just shy of 9 figures. For me, its a long list but in the end it's a good thing they became very wealthy before their inherently Canadian financial skills got the better of them.
And you will be completely mistken.
All mortgages in Canada a full recourse, as opposed to most in the US are walk away and leave the asset to the lender.
People here are acutely aware of debt repayment obligations. What I'm waiting for is a court case where someone argues that the governmet has set the example of debt and debt rollover to them all their life, and they are just following the leaders example.
When it comes to the right to bear arms, Canadians are some of the most brainless anti gun PC conformist morons that I have ever met. I am glad their economy is melting down. They should be punished for being so willfully stupid. Just wait till the next gang banger invades their home with an (eeek!) illegal gun.
Your Canadian hate is really getting tiring, every post you make you go out of your way to bash us.....why? get shut down by a beautiful Canadian girl one time? People who work hard are losing their jobs and you laugh at them? spit on them? why? This isn't funny.
Coming from a guy with the last name of Carney, I appreciate the irony of your remarks.
Living in Latin America, I get to meet some of the hottest girls you will find anywhere on the planet. Why would I want to waste time with a dry boxed PC Canadian Feminazi?
Besides, where is your sense of humor? This is ZH, fight club.
Addendum: America's solution to home invasion. William Shatner is one of yours, or was, LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KvO-8IvoCI
I hate to pop your bubble LL, but long guns are 100% legal in Canada, despite popular opinion.
The thing that is also absurd is how because i pointed out many times what was happening " I wanted" It to happen and im a heartless jerk who doesnt sympathize with people.
Listen...if I tell you theres a bear in the cave and you go in there banging a drum screaming bear whilst telling me theres no bear...I AM going to laugh my ass off why your chewed on ass comes out of the cave if you come out of the cave.
If you dont come out..ill be like that caves the last place we saw that smug know it all idiot.....
Its like theres no responsibility up there...I tell them..im wrong. Im right, then im heartless...do canadian feet move canadian shoes...or just emotions?
RIPS
PS Mark Carney is Goldman Sachs...
That's why its good to have dogs.
+100
Is that a long gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? Seriously though, how do you carry a long gun around for protection?
I live in a small community accessable by not just road alone, I really don't need to carry to stay safe.
For now.
Soon to become an easy target.
They make it easy to give up your rights. You would fight to keep them if you thought you really needed them. The western world has embraced the notion that "law and order" would be a suitable replacement for the right to self defense and all that it encompasses. These notions are easily accepted in tight knit mono-cultures....everybody sharing in relatively similar values and ideologies. But what we see is that culture being torn down economically, putting people at each others throats, while simultaneously importing significant numbers of drastically differing cultures, that on top of everything else, are even more needy, more drag on the economy than we are already experiencing. With all of that going on we are faced with a progressive government who above all other things wants to hold onto their power. They demand we be acceptant of our added hardships as that is our High Moral Imperative that they constantly puke upon us claiming it is "our values", like some irrevocable contract with a God that they roundly do not accept or believe in. They are the God and They are proclaiming their domination of us through ideology or force...whatever it takes. And while you can pat yourself on your back about your "peaceful society" that doesn't NEED guns, this is exactly what America was taught to believe, and we are awakening to the fact that they cannot protect us...WILL NOT PROTECT US, and as such we best arm our asses up. For those countries and regions who have already surrendered their ability to defend themselves....you are left with some tough choices. Your survival will likely depend upon your willingness to defy your peace loving legal framework that will put THEIR survival well ahead of yours.
+100! Right on, Sir Oldwood. That should be mailed to every DC critter, that exists. Hard to believe, that they are out to put us down.
Shifting gears, I read a Marketwatch article on how everybody is going to be wonderful with everybody else and 'share their cars'. Screw that noise. I like being by myself in my '74 Stingray. 90% of the Modern Population wouldn't know what a Borg Warner Super T-10 is, much less actually use one. What a world.
Yes, I have been following a 75 roadster on Ebay that is a twin to one I bought new in 75 and still miss, but you can't really go back and it would be a waste of time if you could. Enjoy that rubber bumpered hot rod!
Seriously though, how do you carry a long gun around for protection?
It is easy. One does it like any other soldier.
Seriously.
Lots of moose hunting in Canada.
Big caliber, long distance, bad weather.
Best not to generalize about a people.
Latina lover take your smut to your belived pornography site. Your foul mouth (for several reasons) and your debauching imagery.
Are you lost?
RIPS
Move on to a pussy PC site. While I disagree with him on where the hottest women are, I respect his opinion. BTW, I don't see his remarks as smut, just opinion.
Your foul mouth (for several reasons) and your debauching imagery.
Uh???
Just what in the hell are you writing about? That fragmented sentence lacks an object. It is not even a complete thought.
Now I am not acting as a grammar cop. Actually this has nothing to do with grammar.
It has to do with FRAGMENTED THINKING, which, is indicative of Schizophrenia.
Perhaps you need to seek a psychiatric assessment for management of your symptoms.
God bless Denny Crane.
Denny Crane!
Canada is full of brainless sheeple, I know as I live in Alberta as well. Stop whining that someone is insulting you...you deserve it! These idiot sheeple deserve what is coming to them to wake them up. Brace yourself, more pain is coming and I, for one, am looking forward to it.
Why Do I Deserve It? I am fully aware of what is going on and have been warning people for years. I am not in O&G, in fact I work for a manufacturing company providing the globe with real products.
Be careful what you wish for friend.
We Americans have always harbored a latent resentment for you neighbors to the north. If for no other reason than you dare to have a different perspective about the world than our correct one, even being white and from the same ex-empire.
We also are grated by the fact that you are generally nicer, more polite, use things like hammers and screwdrivers for crime instead of guns, and we turn that around and call it naivite.
Don't take it personal, and also don't be naive to hope that we'll ever rehabilitated by your sincere pleading.
Personally, if you all could fix the weather, I'd rather be a slave up there (esp. Toronto) than be free anywhere south of the border... but that's just me.
What "different perspective" are you talking about ? Canada has been nothing but a compliant US bitch since the last Iraq war...
I'll bet you can distinguish between the US Gov/Regime and its people.
And yet you seem unable or unwilling to do the same for Canada. Interesting. I bet you don't consider yourself a hypocrite. Guess again.
Actually Kirk...He is a Schnuck who is sporting a schlort.
He is definitely not a man as he has no conviction.
The Canucks are gettin schlonged by Saudi Arabia.
They love bending over to take it up the ass from the Sauds who are flooding World Markets with High Quality Crude Oil.
It is just a Socialist's paradise up there in Canada...a cold one at that...with the frigid feminazis as a reflection of the climate.
Just keep provoking em, may be we'll get lucky and they'll burn the white house down again, just don't forget to bar the doors first.
Perhaps we should agree that "A People deserve their leaders".
She got a rat in her beer.
>by a beautiful Canadian girl
Fact: They don't exist...
ok... already mentioned dorothy stratten... how about the chick from scream? (neve campbell)
how about lexa doig?
Rachel McAdams is hot as hell.
Luisana Lopilato married a Canadian, does that count?
Beauty manifests from within.
Feminazis are just all around ugly whores.
also, shay mitchell
"People who work hard are losing their jobs and you laugh at them? spit on them? why? This isn't funny."
Mark, the Earth is in danger of dying because of blinded psychopathic behavior of raping resources such as practiced by all colonialist aggressors.
This isn't funny.
Get a grip, Mark, you are thinking and ntalking like a zombie.
The earth ain't dying. If anything is dying it is us.
Sure natural resources are one thing, but humans have been intent on self destruction since they crawled from the primordial ooze. I mean fuck....how many times do we have to watch this shit come undone for the same god damned reasons....people just can't believe their ain't something for nothing. They will gamble, they will steal, they will murder, rob and take anything rather than actually work for it...and then be the first ones to claim "they have been robbed". Humans have been lying to each other since they first learned to speak, and every lie is premised upon the same notion, to tell someone something they WANT to hear. And we have developed an entire world governance system premised on exactly that, placing people into power based on how big, how GOOD of a lie they can tell to get elected. We set up a taxing system that aggregates wealth at the top and then allows us to vote for fucking thieves that we can send to beg, borrow and steal from the king.....and we are the first to claim shock and despair at the discovery that these duly elected scoundrels are just that.
Don't need a fucking gun.
We learn how to fight up here with anything that comes in handy.
I used to own guns since I was 11 or 12. Never used them after 30 so sold them.
Most people, if they own a gun and someone confronts them, discover their gun isn't handy or loaded or they are so frightened they can' t shoot straight.
Good luck with that strategy Eh!?
LOL
Planning on bringing a screwdriver to a gun fight, eh?
Actually, Canadians own a lot of guns, hunting is part of the culture. As far as cops go, we don't have trigger happy sadists with PTSD and in fact, often will call in a trained psychologist to talk down a situation instead of shooting first and allowing no questions.
refer to my comment above.
Lets give the "syrian refugees" new jobs in public service..starting with police duties.
BULLISH!!
RIPS
You obviously don't live in Toronto or Vancouver.
Wrong. 99 cops cornered a guy speeding in Canada last summer and shot him 10-20 times because they thought he was waving a gun out his sunroof because that's what some moron reported. The guy shot dead was pissed at his gf because they broke up. No gun was found.
The governments of the world are orchestrating a unified chaos. The cops are afraid if not more than everyone else...deliberately so. We will focus our sense of injustice at those left to enforce the unenforceable while those creating the environment of hellish chaos, sit high on their throne preaching to one and all of acceptance and tolerance. Give peace a chance...right? Surrender your defenses now, while you still have a chance???
the difference between a canadian, american & english police officer:
English Police Officer:
Firstly, the Officer must consider the man's human rights.
1) Does the man look poor or oppressed?
2) Has he newly arrived in this country and does not yet understand the law?
3) Is this really a knife or a ceremonial dagger?
4) Have I ever done anything to him that would inspire him to attack?
5) Am I dressed provocatively?
6) Could I run away?
7) Could I possibly swing my truncheon and knock the knife out of his hand?
8) Should I try and negotiate with him to discuss his wrong-doings?
9) Why am I carrying a truncheon anyway and what kind of message does this send to society?
10) Does he definitely want to kill me or would he be content just to wound me?
11) If I were to grab his knees and hold on, would he still want to stab and kill me?
12) If I raise my truncheon and he turns and runs away, do I get blamed if he falls over, knocks his head and kills himself?
13) If I hurt him and lose the subsequent court case, does he have the opportunity to sue me, cost me my job, my credibility and the loss of my family home?
Canadian Police Officer:
BANG !
American Police Officer:
BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG !
'Click'...Reload...
BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG ! BANG !
You're just bragging because the Canadian cop is a better shot.
or was it just a single warning shot so the criminal could run away?
We were at a Tim Hortons in small-town Alberta and these four uniformed law enforcement officers were sitting across from us. Having not visited Canada for a while, I decided to strike up a conversation and learned that they're not full-blown cops, but a new category of law enforcement known as "peace officers," who handle domestic disputes, traffic violations, etc.
Upon closer inspection, it was noted that they didn't even carry guns, just tasers, mace and handcuffs. So I asked if they left their guns locked in the SUV, and the reply was that they didn't have any, and would call in the real RCMP if the situation demanded it. So it seems in Canada, they now have cops that don't carry guns but still enjoy their coffee and doughnuts just the same.
Our cops love to kill people. Shot a poor local bastard to death in his kitchen. His crime? Feuding with a neighbor, out in the country, and taking a shot at the guys house...Yeah, that's a stupid thing to do, but it's not uncommon among the crazy country folks. Plus, these two had a running feud, nothing new, no one was in any real danger, including the neighbor…he had a gun too.
If the cops had just waited, they would have found him, unarmed, the next morning in the local coffee shop; locals said he stopped in just about everyday…but where's the fun in that?
Another feud ended with one farmer dead at the bottom of a well. His neighbor shot him and dumped the body in the well. His defense, he "felt threatened"...lol...tore a page right out of the police manual...funny though, that defense failed him in court...hmmm
I will concede that Canadian cops are far more professional than those in the US. The latter are typically poorly educated, poorly trained thugs with overactive adrenaline and testosterone levels, who are quicker to resort to armed force, than to reasoning or real skills.
Maybe because in a lot of smaller American locales, the sheriff is still elected, rather than hired based on professional standards. If you elect Billy-Bob, he will naturally surround himself with those like him, perhaps even his cousin/brother/son (who all could be the same person.)
There are huge differences between provinces, generalizing serves no constructive purpose. Gun ownership in rural canada is very high, and i might add there are alot of americans who have moved to canada as well....we're not so different really.
They still cull homeless children in Brazil?
I hope you can have a little sorrow for my fellow Albertans. At least the men and woman who were (or still are working) in the oil patch work hard, and I mean HARD!
I had the privilage to oversee some Major Projects, and the enigineering, construction and work ethic is bar-none more than any of you realize. Do some of the workers let loose and blow their money, yes they do. That is their choice. But what about the rig welders who venture off working 100km north of Ft Mac for 3 weeks, then come home for 1 week and than back again living out of their truck. they have families that they care deeply for and will freeze in -50C to weld that 42" pipe to absolute perfection. And just to let you greenies know, the companies do take environmentalism seriously. I saw a 50M project get stalled just for one ducks nest. They waited 4 weeks for the egss to hatch and have them move on bfore commencing.....find some other people to spit on please, at least we work hard here.
Please do not knock on what you know nothing about. There are always bad apples, but Albertans work bloody hard.
Listen Bro', I get that you are seriously suffering in Alberta. One of my early jobs was working in the Gulf of Mexico just before it went bust way back when. Oil and Gas are cyclical, and one day will rise in price. In the meantime, you always have to remember that the ride only lasts so long, and you have to get ready to get off the horse before it stumbles.
Living here in Latin America, I see people living so dirt poor that most Canadians and Americans couldn't even imagine it. Yet, somehow, they survive, and often times are happier than any of my friends with 100X times their wealth.
It will pass.
If you know it/undstand it, why do you rejoice in other people sufferig?
My name is Carney because SARC/, derp.
I am not in the O&G, but I know many great people who are. NEVER be happy when other people suffer, were all in this mess together.
I don't rejoice, just make light of a difficult situation. After seeing buddies blown to bits while lying in my own urine, losing jobs and homes means relatively little.
Mark, sorry, I love you guys. But have to disagree. There are appropriate times to rejoice when others suffer. Depending on who the others are. I mean, there are some who really, really, need to suffer.
And we're all in this together? I, don't, think, so... but I get your point.
Id be happy if they skinned then crucified some money changers and political puppets....alive
Tell me you wouldnt?
Lighten up francis.
RIPS
+100
Well that is a start RIPS. The word "some" leaves the door open for conjecture.
It is the owners and controllers of the banks that need to be first. Then work your way down through the bonus and salary lists.........
First you must let the vampires think they have won...let they eat some red meat....so they come out of hiding. Then you burn their flesh and stake them alive.
You are right..ALL of them have it comming.
RIPS
I am Albertan and work in Oil/gas. It is depressing here. Quite a few I know have been unemployeed for nearly a year. We got what we deserve by aligning with the country which hurts us the most. We don't have much independent pipeline and not enough refinery. We sell our products on a discount price to a country which doesn't want them. We wasted our hard earned money and sit there for 20 years without any plan for the future. Now we elected NDP thinking a hostile government somehow will help the industry which they hate most. God bless us.
See, you get it. But sadly, like most Americans, Canadians live in denial and cognitive dissonance about lots of things. Their faith in shitty gov't is remarkable.
Good luck to you friend...
Best of luck....and
ITS THE GOVT AND THE FUCKING BANKERS MILKING THE PEOPLE!!!!
RIPS
Yes, you do get it to a degree.
What you are implying is that we need to build sufficient refining to process all the crude here.
Do you have any idea of what that costs in this country?
At least 3 times the cost of anywhere else. Why? Wages and supplies. Just look at the cost of regular commodities and then apply that to a build.
Example: there is a 50,000 bpd refinery being built in Redwater right now.
That will end up costing anout 7 billion dollars.
Now figure out into the future what it would cost to get 4 (current output) or 5 million bpd refined here.
So at todays money 1 million bpd will cost 20 x 7 billion, or $140 billion. 4 million bpd is $560 billion.
Put that out over an ambitious 10 year build (not going to happen) and it will be double that.
Who is going to cough up over a trillion dollars to build refining?
Doesn't want? Check the fine print on who's really pulling the resources out of the ground and sending it south. They're our resources while in the ground but once above, they belong to someone else entirely. Hell, we send natural gas at a 30% discount state side on quotas and have to import some of it back at world price. We don't even have "direct from the manufacturer" in China to Canadian distro houses. Goods are added to inventory stateside then trasnsfered to their Canadian warehouse for distro after being double dipped. Ever wonder how something in the US could be 60% the price of it in Canada when our dollar was par or better than the US?
The pricing is due to NAFTA. You know, that deal that fucking Mulroney peice of shit negotiated.
why do you rejoice in other people sufferig?
Because the suffering is DESERVED.
You thought you could compete through extracting Oil from Shale when it was obvious from the beginning that the Shale Oil Business Model was flawed.
Greed got the best of you. Now you live and pay the price.
The suffering is necessary so that you might LEARN FROM IT...TO NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.
The foundation of all mental illness is the avoidance of legitimate suffering. ~ Carl Jung
And the whole Shale Oil scam was pretty damned crazy from the start.
Now you face reality and the consequential suffering as you cannot avoid it any longer.
It is a step toward mental health.
And I am very happy when people are on the healing path. So I rejoice in this circumstance.
I will even be happier when the World Financial System implodes and the suffering is GLOBAL. Then we can HEAL.
Does that answer your question, Mark Carney?
It is going to get one hell of a lot worse.
AND YOU HAD BEST MAN UP, PAL.
Your avitar's left breast has a lump. better get that checked out.
Exactly. The hourly rates in the patch are often even less than they are in Ontario and elsewhere. The key differentiator has typically been that there's all the work and overtime that one could actually work. So that's how the paycheques end up being 2-3X as much as sitting "at home".
good points above from the canadians. i've spent a lot of time hunting in northern albert peace river area.
I can tell you this....those people in peace river are with out a doubt the toughest people anywhere on the planet. i pity any fool to mess with some of those folks up there. In addtion some of the most friendly people...would give you the shirt off their backs.
Nothing but respect for a family man farming 10's of 000s of acres with very little labor help and able to survive winters up there. Few if any americans would survive...including myself.
in terms of hotness of chicks? northern alberta is about 1 out of 10....that will slightly increase to a 3 after being up there for more than 3 weeks straight.
The rest of canada, at least metropolitan areas are no different than large socialist areas in ussa.
...I hope you can have a little sorrow for my fellow Albertans
Sorry, you'll get no sympathy from me ! Your hard working fellow Albertans had been stupid enough to vote a NDP majority at their latest provincial elections. That's a freak show of a party with ideas somewhere between full blown socialism and communism. Of course they didn't know "what it means", however they could have asked their neigbors about it (like BC). Did they do that ? Hell, NO ! Too proud and stubborn to think a bit... Well, have fun with the clowns in power now !
Lived under many governments and it doesn't matter who you "elect" it's always the same result. The conservatives pissed away the boom in Alberta and they did it in Western Australia with the iron ore too. That's basically the same scenario you're seeing in this post right now and the Western Australian conservatives are crying poor to the feds that they're out of cash.
They're all spendthrifts, the only difference is the SJW agenda when left gets in.
mark carney,
albertans are very different from most canadians. albertans perhaps because of oil have in many respects adopted many 'american' views & habits, particularily texan, thus causing many other provinces to make jokes about them in the same way new yorkers do about texans. one of the chief differences between ny & toronto though is ontario's great good fortune has been on the backs of alberta & since uranium, potash & fracking also on sask & bc. the west has attempted to drum up a separation movement not quite as vehement as scotland's but there all the same. it was quelled & tptb continue to deride the western provinces & pride themselves on their great banking, investment, marketing, manufacturing skills. time will tell as the dollar continues to slide along with oil whether they are as gifted as they presume. meantime, canadians, particularily the media & pc collective continue to believe what the media tells them without questioning why their great father, ussa, has sold them, & oil, down the river to back turkey, isis & israel. that would cause 98% of canadians to retch bile @ the thought. no will question why justin sinclair bombed iraq, when he made such a big show of withdrawing canada's great airfarce. you'd think the drop of oil, the dollar & a war in syria which serves no one but israel would cause many to take to the streets...but no, canadians are docile. canadians get worked up about pipelines, this after quebec took a horrendous oil train disaster, & it's to their economic advantage to have a pipeline to the coast & the states. no questions. queque nicely. i have family both sides of the border. i love bc, i've lived in alberta, quebec. when i lived in quebec i knew many FLQ. we shared common ground. the west & quebec ought to separate. some of the things i love about bc are the same things that my kids spend huge $ to enjoy in the paliasades...you can walk to the market, walk the dogs to the beach or a park, enjoy your neighbourhood. but yes canada has some major heartbreak in store. it needs to begin to think beyond resource especially when the average person distains resource development...never acknowledging their education, health, economy are based upon it. it's a strange self loathing that may contribute to what is sometimes interpereted to be humility. so, yes, mark carney, i have sympathy for albertans. they will hunker down & survive, enough to continue to pay the bulk of the tax bill. you gotta love it.