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How Turkey's Erdogan "Risks The Destruction Of The Country"
As those who frequent these pages are no doubt aware, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has lost his mind.
To the extent Washington’s favorite autocrat had any sanity left going into the summer, he lost it completely in the wake of June elections that saw AKP lose its absolute majority in Parliament. That meant Erdogan would have a more difficult time rewriting the political rule book on the way to consolidating his power in an executive presidency.
Adding insult to injury, the election showed increased voter support for the pro-Kurdish HDP which Erdogan equates with the PKK, Ankara’s terrorist boogeyman.
All in all, Erdogan decided the outcome needed to be undone. After intentionally undermining the coalition building process, Erdogan - gun to his head - had to call for new elections. Conveniently, Ankara decided it needed to reignite the conflict with the PKK, a move which immediately plunged the country into violence, affording Erdogan an opportunity to play the “this is why Turkey needs a strongman” card on the way to securing a “better” ballot box result in early November.
Next, he shot down a Russian fighter jet and invaded Iraq.
All of this comes as Turkey’s role in financing the ISIS terror machine has been laid bare for the world to see. Ankara was long suspected of facilitating the flow of foreign fighters into Syria and the country’s role in funding and arming the various Sunni militants battling the SAA is well known. But allegations that Erdogan’s family may be leveraging the network Barzani and the Iraqi Kurds use to pipe Kurdish crude to Ceyhan (in defiance, mind you, of SOMO) on the way to helping ISIS smuggle stolen oil are new, and have made the world reconsider how we should view Turkey.
At this point, it’s not clear what will happen next, but what we do know is that the US has rolled back requests that Turkey step up strikes in Syria and the Russians are fully prepared to shoot down Turkish F-16s that venture into Syrian airspace. Meanwhile, Erdogan still has troops in Iraq, much to Baghdad’s chagrin.
Here with a take on why Erdogan is dangerous is Burak Bekdil, an Ankara-based, Turkish columnist for the Hurriyet Daily
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Excerpted from “Turkey’s Dangerous Ambitions” via The Gatestone Institute
It is the same old Middle East story: The Shiite accuse Sunnis of passionately following sectarian policies; Sunnis accuse the Shiite of passionately following sectarian polices; and they are both right. Except that Turkey's pro-Sunni sectarian policies are taking an increasingly perilous turn as they push Turkey into new confrontations, adding newcomers to an already big list of hostile countries.
Take President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's recent remarks on the centuries-old Shiite-Sunni conflict: they amusingly looked more like a confession than an accusation: "Today we are faced with an absolute sectarianism. Who is doing it? Who are they? Iran and Iraq," Erdogan said.
This is the same Erdogan who once said, "The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers...." Is that not sectarian?
So, with a straight face, the President of one sectarian country (Sunni Turkey) is accusing another country (Shiite Iran and Shiite-dominated Iraq) of being sectarian.
Erdogan went on: "What about the Sunnis? There are Sunni Arabs, Sunni Turkmen and Sunni Kurds [in Iraq and Syria]. What will happen to their security? They want to feel safe."
Never realizing that its ambitions to spread Sunni Islam over large swaths of the Middle East, especially Syria and Iraq, were bigger than its ability to do so, Turkey now finds itself confronting a formidable bloc of pro-Shiite countries: Russia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, and (not to mention the much smaller Lebanon).
Even before the crisis with Russia that began on November 24 -- over Turkey's shooting down a Russian SU-24 along the Turkish-Syrian border -- has shown any sign of de-escalation, another Turkish move had sparked a major dispute with neighboring Iraq.
Through its efforts to oust Syria's non-Sunni president, Bashar al-Assad, and build a Muslim Brotherhood-type of Sunni Islamist regime in Damascus, Turkey has become everyone's foe over its eastern and southern borders -- in addition to having to wait anxiously for the next Russian move to hit it -- not knowing where the blow will come from.
As Professor Norman Stone, a prominent expert on Turkish politics, explained in a recent article: "Erdogan's adventurism has been quite successful so far, but it amounts to an extraordinary departure for Turkish foreign policy, and maybe even risks the destruction of the country. How on earth could this happen? The background is an inferiority complex, and megalomania."
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"As those who frequent these pages are no doubt aware, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has lost his mind."
Hillary has too..
Turducken = Turkey's Luck end'in
Cracking me up
He is a bag of shit that exploded all over Wash face.
And now dealing with this:
“Anonymous Just Declared War on Turkey Over a Stupid Conspiracy Theory” http://news.yahoo.com/anonymous-just-declared-war-turkey-145407499.html
What is the name of this disease...? You inherent a perfectly functioning country (or in Turkey's case a reasonably functioning country).
A place not without it's problems but due to methodical application of the scientific method , industrialism in various forms and capitalism governed by moderate politicians each decade is getting somewhat better for it's inhabitants - and then those in power suddenly go crazy and do their best to ruin the place...
Obamaitis...?
We have seen it previously in places like USSR and Germany of old and lately USSA.
It´s fucking amazing. You could laugh and scoff at it and point fingers however these problems usually have a nasty tendency of spreading into other regions and affecting countries that just want to be left alone and don't need all the shit that is produced in the guise of some kind of worldimproving ideology or religion.
We can't we just have a large dose of common sense and let inhabitants alone to sort things out.
I put it to the audience that massmurder,mayhem and plunder is NOT the preferred lifestyle of the majority of inhabitants in various countries. They are generally happy with ...just being left alone. You know...raise families,put food on the table , try to maintain good health...and so on.
The writing is on the wall, the whole of the West is at real risk of destruction......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/as-events-spiral-ou...
"As those who frequent these pages are no doubt aware, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has lost his mind."
So has the downvoter...
Don't go getting all smug Lumberjack because the down votes mean you're nailing the truth. Bilal and his shit family deserve a death worse than Gaddafi ( not that he deserved to die ).
nope, USA is setting him up as IS exit strategy.
Though I agree his own foolishness blinds him to this.
Erdogan does not realize that Ataturk's ghost is preparing a noose for him : The Caliphat ended in 1924 ...when the Osmanoglu family was banished from Turkish REPUBLIC.
Erdogan a neo-Osman-Igloo?
Good luck with the Great white bear from the North !
Igloos don't frighten him, nor the Kurds.
Inferiority complex(shows as narcissism) mixed with megalomania.
Hm. Obozo's brother from another mother ?
He's also a patented moron... just like Obozo.
Risks destruction of NATO as well.
According to Mike Whitney, Turkey has promised to remove more troops from Iraq after a call by Obama. Don't know if that's true, or will ever happen though.
Putin’s Progress in Syria Sends Kerry Scampering to the United Nations
Russia has just tested military robots in real fighting in Syria.
Details are to come...
http://fortruss.blogspot.nl/2015/12/syrian-army-use-military-robots-made...
Sadly, this appears to be fake.
I was taken in myself until doing further research.
"Erdogan is a madman"
h/t Geert Wilders
Erdogan is a lying war criminal
Turkey supplied the sarin that killed over 1300 Syrians in Ghouta to try to get the Nobel Prize Winner to bomb Assad into oblivion
Seymour Hersh Links Turkey to Benghazi, Syria and Sarin
The assessment of the Defense Intelligence Agency is that the sarin was supplied by Turkey to elements in Ghouta with the intent of “push[ing] Obama over the red line.” Intercepted transmissions from Turkish operators in the aftermath of the attack are jubilant, and the success of their covert mission must have seemed well in hand. Obama’s implicit call to war in the coming month was proof of that.
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/05/06/seymour-hersh-links-turke...
an instrument, indeed JO. A high level instrument with no shame, no feelings, no regrets. Only greed, covered by fractional reserves, islam, whatever is needed. He will be hung, next to his corporate fascist son, before 2020.
CHP deputy revives claim of Turkey’s hand in Syria’s chemical attack
http://www.todayszaman.com/national_chp-deputy-revives-claim-of-turkeys-...
2 Turkish Parliament Members: Turkey Provided Chemical Weapons for Syrian Terrorist Attack
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/10/2-turkish-parliament-members-turk...
Just looking at the people associated with Gatestone, one would have to say "strong zionist tinge".
"Shia vs Sunni" is far too simple, and they can't be meaning to help me understand using those terms as the organization for a discussion.
The story of Turkey is much more one of a secular nation confronting a leader willing to use religious crazies and kurdish separatist scape goats to seize more power.
The Kurds are Sunni.
Most sites have an agenda, just a fact of life to take into consideration. Nobody is a neutral and complete information service. We know how to read them.
The credibility of NATO has taken a beating because Turkey doesn't play be the rules. This can be dangerous and encourage even more to not play by the rules.
Hint: International organisations like NATO, IMF, TPP and TTIP are not only for joining. They are also for EXITING when they give you too many problems and cause you more expenses than they are worth.
With regards to your last line, might I add: They are also for kicking out one of their own members when it is going completely rogue on its neighbour states, which is exactly what NATO should do in this case - either restrain Turkey or politely show them the exit door. At the end of the day, it is clear Erdogan is nothing but a good old-fashioned fascist in thinly-veiled democratic disguise. They seem to come in alle sizes and religions these days.
Perceptive post by the way.
I'd have to agree with Stone's assessment although not for exactly the same reasons. I'm not sure why Erdogan was smiling so much when he was with Obama. He's probably top of the list for being the next Qaddafi. Germans and US removed their resources from Turkey. US relocated planes to the new Kurdish US air base. Russia has cut off any real Turkish usefulness in ISIS supply lines and revenue generation. And he's invaded Iraq and won't withdraw.
And if that weren't bad enough part of Turkey is the ISIS Levant Map and also the Eretz Israel map. He's not only becoming an increasing liability it also looks like Turkey's being set up to fall or be carved up for greater greed and alleged glory.
He's smiling because he is....crazy...?
They tend to attract each other these characters. Sociopaths feel most comfortable with other sociopaths, ditto for megalomaniacs. I guess it was a great day - planning how to reshape the world. The entire world. No stone left unturned. Dreaming up plans on how to overthrow China and incorporating the uigurs into the caliphate and other "realistic" musings.
Suddenly that blind guy in Tokyo who ran that sect where the leader wrote poetry and applied sarin gas to the subway seems the norm rather than an abberation. Cut form the same bolt of cloth of international political leadership.
Only one thing missing in the overall picture. We now what we are in for when Hillary gets elected.
He's probably top of the list for being the next Qaddafi.
Don't believe any of that bullshit. He wouldn't be doing any of the things he does without the (implict) backing of the US gubermint and as long as he plays along he won't be going anywhere. In fact just the opposite will happen as the CIA and to a lesser degree NATO intelligence will help with any covert ops necessary (false flags anyone??) to keep him in power if push comes to shove. Look up "Operation Gladio" to see how this kind of thing would work to keep his worthless ass in power.
And all this crap about the US and Germany pulling assets out of Turkey is just that, crap to make things look good for the sheeple . . . both countries still have plenty of important equipment and personnel in Turkey and they're not going anywhere any time soon.
Not to mention, Turkish troops have entered Syria a few hours ago. Erdogan is fucking nuts.
https://twitter.com/michaelh992
There are some rumors circulating regarding the entry of Turkish troops in Latifia near Qamshli #Syria
Is that a real place or imaginary?
Latitude & longitude?
Turkey: A Criminal State, a NATO State
http://thenewsdoctors.com/turkey-a-criminal-state-a-nato-state/
Sounds like Ergodan is the perfect compliment to Obozo& Netanyawho
This scumbag and his crew have been setup for a fall and I doubt they even care at this point...
“Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad"
The Turks days are numbered and so are many others. With the Americans elite thinking they are exceptional and that they can control Chaos they have sown the wind and they will reap the whirlwind
the quintessential empire pawn.
"Remember me"
Until the Turks shot down the Russian jet in Syria a month ago today, I harbored the notion that Erdogan and Putin saw eye to eye about the role of the US and NATO in the Levant.
Yes, I knew that Erdogan hated Assad but I assumed he hated the US more. There was the audio tape scandal in the election of 2014, which implicated the same son who is now running the ISIS oil theft, and which I assumed was a CIA operation.
And there were all the nuclear power plants and pipelines that Russia and Turkey had agreed on.
But now that the Su-24 is shot down and two Russian service men are dead and Turkey refuses to compensate Russia for its losses and apologize for its actions. And Turkey's air force is denied the use of Syrian air space and its army is moving unwantedly into Iraq.
Turkey has taken other actions that benefits the US. It appears to me that Erdogan pretended cooperation to both Russia and the US but was two-timing Putin.
When Russia began to destroy the oil profits -- that the US had promised to Erdogan for his cooperation -- he lashed out at Putin, in a way that explained his duplicity to all.
So the motive of the US in not bombing the well heads and tanker trucks for over a year wasn't to enrich ISIS so much as it was to buy Erdogan's allegiance.
He looks like he's sniffed too many bicycle seats...or bowling shoes down at the lanes.
Erdogan is a very simple man. He was made an offer that he could not refuse. How could he?
1. You can go the way of Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Or join us.
2. We supply all the weapons and money to train and send in drugged thugs and madmen who eat human hearts, to instill fear of the Devil into the hearts of all in Syria and Iraq. Go ahead create your new Turkish empire.
3. We will allow you safe passage to sell oil bought cheap from Iran using Gold. Then you can also buy oil cheaper from pathetic ISIS selling for peanuts.
4. We will protect you from any fall out thru NATO covering your ass. Go ahead shoot a Russian plane. We can all dance around but wil get nothing done to actually solve anything.
5. You probably will also be given a Nobel peace prize.
Who can refuse such an offer? Erdogan is a simple man. He accepted the offer. He is not going anywhere.
" You can go the way of Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Or join us." They have been trying that since 2013, with intense media propaganda and covert agents in turkish army and legislation. They failed miserably, current poles says 65% approval rate for Erdogan. So good luck trying to organize coups.. not gonna happen.
Erdogan's a madmen
Another propaganda article full of lies. Incase anyone interested in REALITY, I will just put it right here. And yes I know this comment will get tons of downvotes just because stating the facts.
Lie 1."Erdogan lost his mind" : This guy has been in power for the last 13 years. Before that turkey was a place very extreme political swings and economic crisis happens daily. During these 13 years, there have been no economic crisis felt by the public nor a a political one. In fact, Turkey under Erdogans ruling enjoying the most mild policys, same distance towards every citizen whomever they might be. Social justice has been provided, no ethnical, religious or any other diversification supported or discourage in any sense.
Lie 2. " Erdogan called an election" This is the most ridicoulous claim ever. No one can call an election, there is no such thing. Current election system requires more than 50% majority. if parties cannot claim majority in 45 days, law says there will be another election. Erdogans party took 44% of the seats, and tried to seek support from other 3 parties. non of them even consider to sit on table to negotiate with AKP. You see erdogan undermined coalition is a big fat lie. after 20-25 days, CHP accepted to negotiate coalition, but despite they have half of the what AKP got, they wanted twice the number of ministeries. Can you imagine ? you got half of the votes yet claim twice of the ministry positions. Of course that could not be possible. Turkish public saw exactly what happened, that is why just in 4 months, AKPs vote rate went from 40% to stunning 49,5%.
Lie 3. "Erdogan shoot down russian jet". Engagement rules are universal and they are proceded by military commanders. Russian has been warned multiply times in October not to violate Turkish airspace. Putin said it was a mistake and russia apologized for that. Yet they continue to violate gives 100% right to shoot a military jet down. This is not Erdogans call to make. It is legit by international engament rules. Furthermore, Turkish military has not been aware that they were shooting russian jet, after 6-7 hours from the incident. That plane was rogue, it could be anybodies.
List continues.. ZH is terribly misinforminng people about Turkey and I know why. It is purely because Turkey turn their face primarily to EU and US, leaving Russia as a secondary partner. That is why this shallow propaganda begun. I feel sorry for those who belive such obvious lies.
Evidence for the Jewish version of ISIS has been revealed on Israel TV.
"Channel 10 played a remarkable video on the news last night. It was filmed at a settler wedding at which Yakir Eshbal and Roni Goldberg married. These are not just any settlers and the event was not just any event. Goldberg’s father, Lenny Goldberg, was a chief aide to Meir Kahane’s son, who was assassinated by Palestinians. Lenny has written a tome dedicated to the Rebbe’s memory entitled (I kid you not), The Wit and Wisdom of Rabbi Meir Kahane"
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/2015/12/24/israeli-terror-suspect-elis...
Another report:
A ZioNazi wedding in Jerusalem: participants wield knives, stab a photo of baby Ali Dawabsheh [the child was killed in a recent settler 'price tag' attack]
The weapons are passed from one person to another, children too hold the guns.
0:03 The atmosphere is steaming.
0:05 The vengeance and knives dance becomes a crazy display.
0:10 Note the photo of baby Ali Dawabsheh. burned to death is held high by the celebrating participants
0:16 As one of them stabs the photo of the baby with a knife
Replay:
Reporter: And here is the moment in which the baby's photo is stabbed repeatedly to the joy of the celebrants
https://www.facebook.com/ofer.neiman/posts/10153718435582224?pnref=story
The IDF is to investigate (presumably in its usual incompetent way) the use of IDF-issued weapons in the 'hate wedding' video.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-to-investigate-army-issued-guns-in-hate...
The people are not on the fringe of Israel society, they are mainstream.
http://972mag.com/israels-extremists-arent-as-fringe-as-you-think/115099/
This is a reminder of the 9/11 Dancing Israelis - celebrating the death of others who died for the benefit of Israel.
<-- erDOGan trying to make himself the topDog or top poodle of Satan America
But he forgets the cardinal principle : any country to which satan america sides to , is doomed to destruction , chaos & bankrupcy