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US National Insecurity: The Art Of Blaming Russia (For Everything)
Submitted by Daniel Spaulding via 21stCenturyWine.com,
In American politics the nation of Russia, especially as personified in its leader Vladimir Putin, becomes all things to all men.
To American leftists, Russia is a neo-fascist, violently nationalist country that ruthlessly suppressed minority groups, especially homosexuals. To the American Right, Putin is the second coming of Stalin who is working to subvert good old-fashioned American values around the world.
In line with the latter narrative, a certain Christian Gomez recently published an article on The New American website, the flagship of the John Birch Society, supposedly revealing that the Russian government is the real power behind the ISIS terrorist group, as well as being behind the recent terrorist attacks in Paris. The source of this “revelation” is a single, alleged and unidentified ‘defector’ from the FSB, Russia’s security service, who spilled these supposed secrets on Ukrainian television, a mouthpiece for the Washington-backed Kiev coup-junta that never misses an opportunity to slander all things Russian.
Such charges are absurd on their face; there is absolutely no evidence to hint, much less demonstrate, that Russian intelligence had any involvement in the formation of ISIS. Why Russia would want to support a terrorist entity that seeks to destabilize and overthrow its close and reliable ally, Bashar Assad of Syria, is never explained or analyzed by either the faux defector or his American champions at the John Birch Society.
Indeed, even mainstream Western media sources no longer make serious attempts to hide the fact that America’s regional allies, and not Russia, are to be identified as the sources of ISIS development and support. Countries like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and even Israel have all played a significant role in funding, arming, and enabling ISIS, Jahbat al-Nusra, and other similar jihadist factions in Iraq and Syria.
Turkey has an awfully peculiar way of “fighting” ISIS (Image: RT)
America itself is certainly in a far better position to be plastered with the charge of supporting ISIS. According to Washington’s own Defense Intelligence Agency, the American government knew from the beginning of its support for the “Arab Spring” in Syria that the violent insurgency against Bashar Assad was composed primarily of unsavory, vicious Islamist factions, including the Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda sympathizers, and even predicted these factions, if empowered, would seek to create a Salafist “principality.”
Meanwhile, Russian president Vladimir Putin has been stalwart in his support for Bashar Assad, recently going as far to providing air cover to the Syrian military as it seeks to reclaim the country from ISIS and other terrorist brigades. An undertaking that has earned Putin even more irrational hatred from the Western media and political establishment, which cheers on jihadists as they pillage and plunder their way through Syria.
So where did this preposterous charge against Russia originate? The faux defector that would smear Russia with responsibility for ISIS is obviously a pawn of Langley’s Ukrainian satraps, but his absurd conspiracy theory still finds fans in the West, especially among so-called American conservatives and ‘patriots’, since it fits in with a much older narrative, one stretching back to the Cold War.
During the height of the Cold War, figures like W. Cleon Skousen, a former FBI agent and an associate of the John Birch Society, and the opportunistic Soviet KGB defector Anatoly Golitsyn propagated the narrative that the Soviet Union was not merely a geopolitical rival of the United States, but was fantastically successful in its quest to undermine American democracy and replace it with a communist society. Golitsyn and Cleon Skousen’s nephew, Joel Skousen, have gone as far as to claim the collapse of the Soviet Union was a clever ruse designed to lull America and the West into a false sense of security so that the “communist agenda” might continue, with no one the wiser.
Coincidentally, this non-falsifiable conspiracy theory plays well to more fringe elements of the American “patriot” movement and many Christian dispensationalists, who see Russia as the Biblical ‘Gog and Magog’ set to devour their idol, the State of Israel. It also provides a convenient scapegoat for American conservatives who are unable or unwilling to see the real culprits behind the social chaos in their country – and that their country is the prime source of both geopolitical and cultural subversion abroad.
Communist influence on American society and culture during the era of the Cold War shouldn’t be wholly discounted. In fact, the neo-Marxist Frankfurt School certainly left its mark, though often exaggerated, on the deconstruction of traditional institutions in the West. But often overlooked by anti-communist conspiracy theorists is the reality that cultural Bolsheviks like Herbert Marcuse and Theodor Adorno didn’t receive their marching orders from Moscow, a power which they disdained, but rather were assets of Western elites and their intelligence apparatus, particularly the U.S. Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the forerunner of the CIA. Nor did Bolshevism in the first part of the 20th century spawn indigenously from Russian soil, like Athena from the head of Zeus. Rather, the dictatorship of the proletariat was helped along in its ascendancy by oligarchs in New York and London.
PROPAGANDA’S ROLE REVERSAL: “It’s only feigned reverence, obviously Neo-Soviet propaganda.”
Furthermore, its impossible to find any evidence that Russia exerts any significant social, economic, or political influence on America, or is working toward turning America into the “socialist workers’ paradise”. On the contrary, whatever minor outreach that Russians have extended to America has actually been toward Christian conservatives wishing to preserve the traditional family and other social values.
While neoconservatives and their useful idiots among the American “patriots” cynically dismiss President Putin as a Soviet retrograde and Tom Clancy villain, the Kremlin implements communist policies neither at home, nor abroad. On the other hand, Russian Orthodoxy has returned slowly but surely as a central part of Russian life, and Russian patriotism has no need for Marxist rhetoric about workers’ revolutions or the dictatorship of the proletariat.
Instead of tired, CIA-fueled Cold War narratives and covers for liberal imperialism, perhaps sincere conservatives and ‘patriots’ in America should look to the Soviet dissident, Russian patriot, and devout Christian, Alexander Solzhenitsyn, a man far wiser than any ‘FSB defector’. Solzhenitsyn saw a positive, stabilizing role in Putin’s leadership as Russian culture and identity revived, and it was Solzhenitsyn who also saw that the “Euro-Atlantic alliance” was the engine of the “decline of Christian civilization.” Meanwhile, the West sinks further into its simulacrum Babylon, and its spiritually blind “defenders” will blame anyone but themselves.
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Merry Christmas Vlad! God Bless you and your family! You are an inspiration to all living under repressive regimes in the West. God Speed
FYI Russian Christmas is in January.
Santa please bring us collapse, so we can stop death and destruction around the world. It will be painful for my family, but at least other families can rebuild and so will we. God help us and protect us from evil that will unfold. Happy Hollidays Tyler's
I don't think it's that easy. As of lately, collapses only seem to help the richest oligarchs, who are one of the driving forces behind the destabilisation abroad.
If I understand this correctly, then people here view the international community becoming more cohesive and international law growing more prominent as telltale signs of a "New World Order" conspiracy by affluent Jews, while they also view trends that reverse globalization and weaken international institutions as telltale signs of... a "New World Order" conspiracy by affluent Jews.
Unbelievable. The definition of nutcase fringe.
No Eirik you do not understand this correctly.
Put the sauce down and stop acting like a progressive fag or go and find another website where the authors and readers are on your level such as the Huffington Post or any mainstream media outlet.
Vlad goes to church, welcomes the Russian Orthodox prelates at state ceremonies and retreats to a way cool monastery, unlike some proven black liberation theology hypocrites at 1600.
https://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/04/30/vladamir-putin-spiritual-journey-valaam-monastery-in-russias-far-north/
Merry Christmas, Vlad..
Up yours, hypocrites at the semi-white house.
And oh, if they had chapels outside each hole of all golf courses, then we might consider the golfer-in chief to have some semblance of religion, but that ain’t the case.
http://obamagolfcounter.com/
..what a poser
The Rev. John Hagee "conservatives" over at Free Republic love Goldman Sachs ted Cruz the guy from Calgary. They think Ted and Bibi are their saviors. I get sick of evagelicals thinking Isri-hell is their friend.
Obola had the President of Isri-hell at the White House and had a big menorah on the White House lawn. Idiots think he is a muslim. He may be but he is a puppet of Isri-hell.
Many Muslims are puppets of Isri-hell. All those cannibal Jihadis in Syria and Iraq for example.
No, add it to the list of things your left-statist bias precludes you from being able to understand.
Power corrupts, Mr. Larssen. Bankers, transnational corporations and banking institutions care for little other than profit, and the politicians they buy care most about what benefits their donors.
Jews *qua group* have a millenia long association with usury and banking, they are highly ethnocentric ( in white Europeans you term this 'racism' but being guided more than conditioning than principle you likely would not dare accuse those who are above the criticism lavished on others) and wealthy and organized transnationally. Driven by in-group self interest they, again, *qua group* often acted against the interests of the ethnic majority, to include the Bolsheviks and more recently the core of the Straussian (neoconservative) movement.
Simply because the notion that the 'average' Jew like any other 'average' person is not especially either evil or part of a sinister plot does not mean that the very highly disproportionate wealth, and political and media power, transnationally is of no moment. That the Torah and Talmud plainly direct a dual ethic, according non-Jews lesser ethical and ontological status is absolutely obvious, whether you've simply refused to consider the matter or not.
You look at 'globalism' and focus on the good. You likely tend to monolithize it, as if transnational Zionism/Jewry is indistinguishable from the teleology of other western elite, ignoring entirely a disparate eschatology, racial nationalism, and ethnocentrism. On the other hand, what the majority of erstwhile western democracies would like does not matter to you - there must be 'progress' - as you, of course, define it.
You are an Idealist in the strict sense.
That makes you anti-democratic, cryptototalitarian, and ideological in your assessments. You imagine that your view is 'correct' and therefore 'should' be imposed on unwilling majorities, and you commit the category error of presuming that if a statement is made by someone you deem 'racist' or 'right wing' is entirely 'wrong,' a priori and without any consideration of the merits.
As a non- pragmatist, non-realist you divide the world into a facile binary such that all truth and facticity resides on one side, your side, of a position, perpetually excluding the middle, and shades of gray.
But the real world is complex, and assertions or viewpoints you reject may in fact enjoy some degree of truth and reality.
Power corrupts. Groups with wildly disproportionate power and high in-group identity will act cohesively to some extent 'qua' such group. banks and oligarchs and weapons manufacturers grow rich from debt and death, and so long as human beings are driven by greed, self-interest, religious bias, and particularist versus universalist ethics, granting more and more power to fewer and fewer entities tends toward greater and greater abuse and degradation of those people and things outside the ambit of that self interest.
In short, you don't understand much because you come to conclusions far too quickly, without seriously considering alternative viewpoints - many of which you simply assume must be wholly false/inaccurate because they clash with your Idealism, which depends on filtering out the very evidence that would prove your iwn position less accurate, and less ethical, then you prefer to imagine.
In shorter - you are a lazy, arrogant thinker, just like many or most who cling to a pole rather than do the hard work of exploring the places between purported binary positions.
I may be wrong, however.
You're not wrong. The pattern of these Talmudic Jews taking over governance of their host nation and then using it to further their own agenda (which is always against the interest of the host nation), then being found out and incurring the wrath of the host nation has repeated itself too many times to be ignored. That the 6 million figure was banded around at every opportunity for 20 years before hitler even came into power and the way the israeli state claims victimhood whilst being the aggressor shows the extent of their international coordination in spreading propaganda. Indeed hitler had learned the power of propaganda from them and not the other way around.
Their intelligence and contribution to the progress of the host nation is undeniable however but neither is the goodwill shown by the host nations in allowing them to enter (but then dominate) the corridors of power.
To be in denial of this is very naive.
Johnny H.
what a gem of a post! Thank you.
Yeah L_L_
Mr Horschaulk really has a gift with words...... a few spelling mistakes/grammatical errors but, fuck it, it's Christmas :)
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No, add it to the list of things your left-statist bias precludes you from being able to understand.
Power corrupts, Mr. Larssen.......
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What an astute observation Mister Horscaulk.....
+100
Merry Christmas too
:) & ;) X-
Fork me, that was well argued and written! Kudos.
Yeah! What he said.
Very fine.
Well written and to the point. {I love your last sentence :))) }
Somebody got schlonged and it wasn't Johnny.
worst strawman ever
You should just rename yourself to "No More White People"
come on, be honest.
The simple truth? The Jews lost control of Russia to the Christians and that wasn't the plan. The plan was to re-unite Russia with the West under Zionist control. The Christians woke up, the are filling the churchs and they have revisted just exactly who the Bolsheviks were and what they wanted in the end, Global Jewish Communism...better said, One World Order.
Putin has put an end to their plan! Now, we might all die simply because these people hate to lose and never give up.
Fuck off wankers, Merry Christmas!!
Don't worry. Dying is overrated
Simple, but far from the truth.
Simple can never be the truth, reality is always complicated.
Huu? Care to explain? Too much eggnog? Simple and accurate is a problem because why?
Putin was KGB and a nationalist, so he knew what the Jmafia oligarchs were up to. He took them down at the right time but they fled to Tel Aviv on their private jets. Khordovski remained behind because he thought he was invincible.
Obozo was/is CIA.
Putin was a lawyer in the KGB.I'll give you reading law books is torture,
Whats your point ?
Sorry but Obozo is too dumb even for CIA...
The world will soon be in the expert guiding hands of Vlad Putin. He will save you all from the jewish communists who seek to enslave you all!
Not if Bibi has any say
http://youtu.be/i4OXmO3T2vc
And by the way...
http://youtu.be/NDqL6AJP9v8
Its everybody's god.
Q, or is it Loki? Are you being mischievous again?
It's Christmas morning and I have come across your term Global Jewish Communism and, in the future should I need that term I intend to borrow it, no...steal it. To the Jews a Christmas theft would not matter any way and it saves me the time explaining the Bolshevik Revolution was wholly a Jewish revolution.
Love to see ZeroHedge show its true Russian stripes.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.
One man's "true Russian Stripes" is another' mans rationa. analysis of national self interest.
There are a lot of carefully rational people on ZH and many other sites these days. The Israeli-Neocons are losing badly in the court of world opinion.
The Russians and the Israeli-Neocons are two sides of the same coin. Endless war, endless struggle to ensure hegemony.
The Neocons are our enemy. The Russians are the Neocons enemy. But I disagree that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." The Russians are not our friends.
We should be against aggression, whether Neocon or Russian.
Where is the Russian agression? We overthrew the Ukraine and Libya governments. We are trying to overthrow Syria government. Is Russia supposed to sit still while all of their allies are invaded by the West?
If Russia tried to overthrow the Mexican and Canadian governments and we tried to stop them, who would be accused of being the agressor?
They can't find his aggression, all they have are slogans hoping you are too stupid to
see reality.
These macaques as you always throw around shit.
Do we need to pay attention on your throws shit and insulting chants? Hardly...
The notion that two groups in opposition are merely 'different sides' of 'the same coin' typically merely presupposes the coin to allege an equivalency that was never proven.
In short you are begging the question.
In the past 20 years, only an inbecile could equate the actions of the Anglo-Zionist banking and warfare Empire to that of a Russia that has been in essence forced to play defense, as the US and allies have sown chaos all over the world with invasions, and coups, and ongoing support of terrorism.
"The Russians are not our friends."
If they are smart they should not be nor should any country including the US Western allies who are spied upon and dominated (used) by the US deep state in behalf of the Zio NWO psychopaths.
Russia could have been the most natural ally the US ever had but instead their best service to the neocons was to provide the villain for which to rally the uncurious American public support of their nefarious ideals.
MD, who said anything about 'Friends'?
Can you live with the term/concept of 'Ally'? IOW: "The enemy of my Enemy is my Ally"
And at the risk of perhaps the obvious, an Ally is someone with whom you share a set of common interests, which are dominating for a period of time.
Can you live with that?
Go back to Tel Aviv.
What does MD stand for?
Mogen David?
Mr. Putin, please save America from the filthy jewish. Use total destructive force if you have to.
It stands for Mixed Dafuckup
Fuck this shit.
All I know is that in order to get my congressman's attention I have to write a manual, old school, postal letter.
And even THEN, I have to put hair around it before they even consider reading it.
We're already fucked 9 days into Sunday by our War Criminal Government.
To them it's what my Gunny told me. "It's mind over matter!!! (it was pretty loud at the time) "I don't mind and YOU don't fucking MATTER!!! Give me fifty right the fuck now."
Semper fi, OldPhart.
Some of the Tyler's must be Russian, as Putin is revered here on ZH. Slowly they are convincing the yanks the Russians mean well, as Putin remains a few chess steps ahead of the Dumbos running the US!
The original Tyler was "east" european, yes...Bulgarian or Romanian if I recall. At the same time one can't put too much stock in it, if it wasn't for that little section of the planet we might all be speaking Arabic today ;-)
Bulgarian
Joel Skoussen is in the margins of the margins. Even Alex Jones, who doesn't need Skoussen as much any more, openly challenges his absurd uber conspiracy ideas (Putin is a communist, Trump is backed by the media, etc.)
The cuckservatives hate Putin and call him Hitler (because of course.)
Actual Rightists love Putin and Trump.
That's odd, I tend to blame almost anything on Israel and the traitors in western lands who support it/them.
Russia is good peeps in my book.
Its really the government of Isrsel under likud, shas, etc. They are ultranationalist and racist and are not at all interested in allowing their Palestinian helots the right to exist thst they, the grandchildren of European terrorist interlopers, demand for themselves.
"goliath" by Blumenthal is a must read.
Plenty of decent and moderate Israelis and Zionists but they are absolutely boxed out.
2 million jews re-elected Bibi... Sit with that for a moment... The effect 2 million israelis have had on us politics.
We cant have a sensible foreign policy until and unless israel's lobby is cut down to size, and that means discussing 2 things we arent supposed to:
1) jewish hyper power generally - most american jews arent likudniks or neocons but as a group their power is such that even 1/3 or less of them, here, organized and of slavish devotion to likud israel no matter what, is itself what allows, politically, financially and in the media, the neocon/likudnik minority of the jewish minority to hijack, very largely, or 'capture' the government and deep state.
2) Christian Zionists forgot the 'Christian' part, have become idol worshippers (of the nation state of 'Israel'), and indifferent to both us and Israeli state terrorism.
'1' will not be seriously discussed for obvious reasons unrelated to the truth.
I will cross my fingers that America's 'Christian' Zionists have some sort of rebirth or New Testament revival, and really examine what the *governments* of the us, uk, and israel have been doing.
I would tentatively posit that a spiritual, authentically Christ-like renaissance amongst American Evangelicals, etc. may be of vital importance to avoiding war.
And avoiding needless war, and death, and suffering (which is not to say mindless pacificism, either) not hoping for it, remains the point they lost long ago.
http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/scofield.htm
http://christiananswers.net/q-faith/fc-warperspectives.html
And no - a thing is not just merely because the state/government of 'Israel' does it. So blinded are they by their false idol worship they do not see the manifestly *unjust violence* and hypocrisy of the us and Israel.
http://www.jesuschristsavior.net/Beatitudes.html
Who are they, these "Christian Zionists" that they perpetually make war on Christ's teachings??
It has been said many times that there is a difference between Jews and Zionists. A lot of Jews are not interested in a Jewish nation or world domination. This may be true, but it is irrelevant.
Without the support of the “non-Zionist” Jews, the Evil Ones cannot succeed. The everyday Jew donates money to Israel and other causes that promote Zionism.
They vote for Jewish politicians based only on the fact that they are Jewish.
Jews run the media that push the anti-Islam pro-Israel agenda and advocates wars that only benefit Israel.
They support pro-Israel and anti-Islam causes with a 100% knee-jerk response.
When it comes to promoting within their field of employment, it is always for the Jew, Zionist or not.
Most importantly, you never hear a Jew say anything bad about another Jew, no matter how evil.
This support by silence is the gauge of their true colors. To remove the Zionists from their grip on power, it will be necessary to remove all Jews.
Send Putin a Christmas message here:
http://eng.letters.kremlin.ru/
LMAO....Dear Lord...that is awesome...Send a letter to Putin or Report Corruption. lmao. Dear Vlad. The President and the entirety of Congress here in the USSA is totally corrupt....Please handle accordingly. Send all responses to this letter directly to Washington DC. preferrably special delivery by "air".
http://dearputin.com/
At present, I don't see a prolem in that message.
The true terrorists of our world today reside in DC. At prestigious addresses.
Looking forward to a fiery purge/pogram. Just sorry it isn't US citizens holding the rope. Perhaps, we'll have our sport near the end, as parasites emerge from the rubble.
First dibs on being first in line to hold the rope.
I sent him a message.
Edgar Cayce said in the 1930s that Russia would be the hope of the world.
Pretty odd since in the 30s the Soviet Union was pretty bad.
Putin is a fucking disgrace and a fucking disaster for the Russian people.
Time will bear me out - you will see.
Yes time will prove us all wrong, right or something in between.
I don't know Putin, so time will tell but history will be written by the winners.
Snortin that Ajax uh? I sent Putin a message, great link!
he'll have the last word, surely.
IsraelAmerica is a fucking disgrace and a fucking disaster for the world. I don't need time to bear me out.
Ajax Rabinowitz, huh? Aren't you the big deal at the synagogue.
you made a present tense claim and offered future tense proof with cuss words for support
to clarify, can you name some current leaders with the opposite effect?
ajax, clean up your act.
Edgar Cayce? Really?!! Edgar Cayce now is it??!!
Holy fucking shit!! Let's all get out the Ouija board and verify what Edgar Cayce said.
Oh please - get out the Ouija board and contact the people in ... what is it? WTC 7th building?
Let us all know how you get on with it. Careful of the flying chairs and tables and ectoplasma etc etc.
Fight Club indeed. Crap Club is more like it.
He had 100% accuracy.
He even predicted Fukushima
What is your rate?
Cayce never said WHEN Russia woudl be the hope of the world.
So is Daniel advocating for Harry Reid to introduce the appointment of a Putin media Czar or what? The ISSUE is not with the Russian people! THE issue is with the US government and the Russian government.
Putin or Obama? Putin or the Pope? Putin or Hollande? Putin or Cameron? Christians or Putin? Conservatives or Putin?
WTF is this guy even talking about?
We get you are neutral. But the world is not. Why can't you get that.
Well, I guess after you explain what you as an individual mean by "we" WE can then have a discussion ;-)
We the people, do I need to say more?
What if I am one of "the people" but not necessarily one of you? Unless you are sitting as the head of some organization and speaking as the holder of that office, you do not represent anyone but yourself.
You people are fucked up. You don't represent me anymore than my so called 'Representative' does in Connedgrease.
Merry Christmas Vlad and Russia. I know it is early as your holiday is on Jan 7th. Thank you for doing the right thing and history will remember this.
great little write up on putin/israel from the saker:
http://thesaker.is/putin-and-israel-a-complex-and-multi-layered-relation...
Thanks for that link, Bro of the Sorrowful Figure.
Up until now I have been honestly confused about the way Putin has reacted to Russia's Jews and Israel. Saker's article explains a lot.
My deepest reservations about Putin were always about his seemingly contradictory actions related to these issues without ever any clear explanation by anybody. Saker is just another guy with an opinion, but this article makes perfect sense to me in so many ways - mostly because it explains so much about America's irrational actions when it comes to Putin and Russia.
Putin is in the tough spot, as any American President is/was/will be.
Cancer that needs to be cut out, but will cutting it out kill the patient?
Not at all to excuse the subsequent state violence of the nazis but the Treaty of Versailles was heavily influenced by Jews and Jews disproportionately benefitted (as in russia after the ussr) from the post war depression and hyper-inflation.
No *excuse* for murder and state terror but there surely was a *reason*
https://archive.org/details/JewishDominationOfWeimarGermany1919-1932
I wonder if Putin has read "200 years together." The book came out in Russian, while Zion has managed to keep it banned in English and other major languages.
Only now are parts of the book becoming available.
We know who the architects of Bolshevism were, thanks especially to Solzhenitsyn.
http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/most-banned-book-in-the-world-200-...
Russian's being truly aware of their history are better preparded to navigate the world than the dumbed down west.
No doubt Yuri Kovalchuck, Vladimir Yakunin, billionaires Boris Rotenberg and his older brother Arkady, Vladislav Yuryevich Surkov, former Russian deputy prime minister, Sergey Yurievich Glazyev, Putin’s aide and author of 40 books, Leonid Eduardovich Slutskii, member of the State Duma of Russia, Professor Andrey A. Klishas (Moscow University), Ukraine-born Valentina Ivanovna Matviyenko, the highest-ranking female politician in Russia, and former governor of Saint Petersburg and the current Chairman of the Federation Council of the Russian Federation, Dmitryi Olegovich Rogozin, former Russian ambassador at NATO and Yelena Mizulina, a member of the Communist Party...all jooos, would agree.
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Oh gawd! I've blown peoples minds & memes again!
Merry Christmas ;-)
200 years in PDF here
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/200%20YEARS.pdf
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/200%20YEARS.pdf is the correct link
Thanks to you both.
Havent read it but the fact it hasnt been hard copy published in English presumably telegraphs the blunt truthfulness about the visciousness and Jewishness of the Old Bolshevik terror.
Just note that this is the "60%" version. If you are able to read in other languages, you may be able to find the full version.
I started it a few times but it is tough slogging, perhaps not a good translation?
Hitler had Jews in the S.S. OMG!
Do I sound like a teenage girl? OMG!
So what? Putin has Jewish individuals in his midst. There are many examples of JOOOS behaving well in history. Things are not always black and white.
The main thing is: Are our Russian Jewish friends behaving as an in-group against Russia, or are they working to help Russia?
It seems to me that Russian civilization is reorganizing along Orthodox Christian lines - not Judaic. Nobody could argue that Judaism is ascendant in Russia.
Read the book 200 years together, which I recommend, it puts Russian history into better perspective.
"The main thing is: Are our Russian Jewish friends behaving as an in-group against Russia, or are they working to help Russia?"
Well now, the joooish shoe is on the other joooish Russian foot now, so that makes it all Russian nationalistic better.
I'm glad we got that all sorted out in short order ;-)
Talk to Mikhail Khodorkovsky about Putin. It will always be interesting,
Glenn Gould plays Shostakovich:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ukd3FEzaZ7Y
Happy Holidays.
It's not Holidays.
it's Christmas
This is not a jew or muslim country, this is christian culture country.
move, assimilate or shut up
Hey "Chris Dakota": Do you know what 'holiday' means?
It means Holy Day, so why don't you just shut the fuck up until you learn English. Go to hell.
What Holy Day?
You don't want us to say CHRIST.
I can't go to hell.
I have devoted my life to the truth.
Truth is God.
I know it, he knows it.
I seek to be one with God.
Via Jesus Christ who was God in human form.
You say Christmas and he says Holiday. What's the fu*kin problem? Good grief.
Our objection is based on the simple truth that all christmasses are holidays, but not all holidays are christmas. For some of us Christmas is a very significant holiday, and the ongoing suppression of the Christian religious and moral aspects of that holiday, rankle.
That's the problem. we are supposed to respect the rights of gays, other religions, bankers to do whatever the hell they like "in your face" 364 days a year, but try playing a few christmas carols or putting up traditional decorations in public, and see how fast you get shut down...
It's a double standard being jammed down our throats, and some of us have the temerity to point it out..
Sorry to put a damper on things; but Jesus Never Existed until the 4thCE. Neither did his home town of Nazareth. Xmas is the attempted assimilation of the Winter/December Solstice, which fell on December 25th on the Julian Calendar (used until 1598CE).
Plenty of Protestants, Deists, and Secularists involved in the making of 'Murica.
No crying in Baseball.
You are an idiot and a liar.
For starters:
A host of sources from the 1st century reference Jesus Christ.
Thousands were martyred because they wouldn't publicly deny him.
The earliest New Testament manuscripts found to date are from the 2nd century.
Your lies are easily refuted.
Show us the DOCUMENTATION then, Dumbass!!!
The Jesus Birther Movement Website had fun Challenge Posted a while back. The Challenge was for anyone to produce documents dated in the 1stCE that proved Jesus Christ and Christianity's existence.
NO WRITTEN DOCUMENT was available. The Writers, Govt Officials, Historians, Religious Leaders - nothing.
2ndCE Documents DO NOT CONTAIN THE GOSPELS. The Gospels were Commissioned by Constantine and Company. The 2nd CE (alleged) fragments documents refer to a Chrestus(meaning good or useful) Cult - yea, spelled with an "e", not the Christian "i". Some manuscripts actually had the "i" written over the "e". The "Early Christians" are most likely the Chrestus Cult Monkeys - Constantine Almalgamated many religions of the Region - wrapping it around Judaism to make it look like it has some history.
Here's anothe Catch. Who designated the Anno Domino (AD) System? A Monk in the 6thCE, who pulled it out of his Arse after contemplating the Christian Worldview of their Time. THAT'S WHY THERE'S NOTHING WRITTEN IN THE 1ST CE.
I'm waiting - put up or shut up.
VEJER must join with the Creator!
Christ. The anointed. literally - The oiled up one.
Sounds like a cheap porn movie to me.
LOL - and the Christians hijacked the timing of the festival of the winter solstice from the Pagans as part of the effort to suppress their belief system and convert them.
If you want your twisted combination of man, myth, politics and outright fiction, you can keep you your...
But don't belittle any one who does not swallow it.
Fuck off troll cunt Ajax.
It may be your Christmas and the national holiday "Christmas", but that is not binding on me, I can celibrate any gd thing I want. And do.
So no, it isn't 'Christmas' for me unless I decide that it is.
Freedom of speech includes deciding what names to use for all things, don't you think? And Freedom of Religion deciding what the significance of any particular thing is for me, don't you think?
Thus, no need to use your names, I decided for me. I assimilate to whatever I want to assimulate to, and don't feel the need to consult with anyone else about it.
You can tack a mistletoe to your crack and praise Chrismahannakwanzika for all I care. Live and let live. You get offended cuz you see "insert religious/spiritual/agnostic/atheist whatever" FUCK OFF. I think two dudes French kissing is fucking gross but they wanna do it and ain't hurting anyone so be it. I hope their honeymoon on Fire Island is fab.
Migrate to Europe and protest with those migrants there.
Soon you won't find this a place you can pull that crap.
I wouldn't move to Saudi and say "Take that Kaaba down, end this Haj. It makes me feel left out.
Mohamed is a fraud"
get my drift, Bro?
No, I don't get your drift.
"Pull this kind of crap?" Living my life in a free society is "this kind of crap?" And somehow Saudi Arabia's outstanding human rights are a standard to argue with?
I am not putting limits on your belief, you seem to wish to put limits on mine. Sorry, Freedom.
It isn't Christmas for me unless I decide that it is Christmas for me. Your opinion doesn't count.
It isn't a "free" society at all.
The basics like food, clothes, and housing are very expensive for most people.
If you are a short creepy looking guy with ADD, maintaining a foothold is virtually impossible.
Doesn't matter if you have mad technical skills and every chance you get, you work to a very high standard, coupled with a decent caring nature, (in fact I read recently that is one of the things about people like me that most "normal" people hate, the caring, they find it creepy!) you got to act, and more importantly LOOK like a TV stereotype or you are practically unemployable in this free society.
There is no "freedom" for people such as me in this society, I have to every day fight my basic nature and pretend to be someone I am not, or starve. Oddly enough, if I stop caring about others and lie, cheat steal and offer violence to all who oppose me (if I think I can get away with it, of course) as I did in my youth, the material and social aspects of my life will improve. (At least they did back then, hatred greed and malevolence seem to really work quite well in this "free society" of yours...)
It's only a "free" society if you are one of the preferred social groups, races or "types", for pretty much everyone else it's bloody miserable slavery mostly. (If I am wrong then why is mental illness, and addictions of all types so massively prevalent in this "free" society?)
But I think most of you know that anyway..
Are there limits?
Do you get to decide whether or not gravity applies to you, too?
If you decide it is not Christmas for you... Does that have any impact at all on whether over a billion people consider it so?
Maintaining the right to ignore or invent your personal recognition of a religious or secular holiday is one thing, a thing I think few here would quarrel with.
But Solipsism? Another matter entirely.
I did not say I would not, nor that I did not.
I said that it was my choice.
Very nearly all do, it is so convenient to use the same words and live by the same rhythms. But it is my choice, and Freedom means your opinion is not binding on me.
Gravity is not a relationship of equals. My opinions do not have as much effect on it as vv.
It's the bloody winter solstice.
Thanks Chris.
Every year "they" take more of the real value out of Christmas, and no-one seems to care.
I heard of someone actually being threatened with prosecution for playing "Christmas music" this year!
I find it very hard to believe in God sometimes, but I can clearly SEE the organised opposition gaining ground every year, to the Christian festivals, whilst halloween, divali, and eid seem to face no such restrictions.
Halloween especially, seems to be richly marketed, with streams of costumed children roaming the streets, but not a SINGLE CAROL HAVE I HEARD THIS YEAR.
What's the difference? Well, Christmas is focussed on moral goodness, giving, peace and goodwill, whereas halloween is focussed on what values exactly? (I'm not entirely sure really, but it seems to involve fear and blood and pointy teeth..)
"move, assimilate or shut up" you are absolutely right. I think I'll see if I can get that on a tee shirt in the new year.
Have you ever heard of the first Amendment? ??
You continue to impress me as strangely obtuse.
Fuckin' public schools, huh?
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
http://www.culturewars.com/2003/RevolutionaryJew.html
http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Pseudoscience/harvard_mafia.shtml
http://thesaker.is/putin-and-israel-a-complex-and-multi-layered-relation...
Links arent for you, nmewn. That would be like giving a spectroscope to a poodle.
;)
I was at my daughter's middle school the other day. Happy hannukah displayed prominently in the area outside of the school office (main hallway), yet Merry Christmas is banned. This, a public school, is poisoning our children.
The issue would never arise if not for the existence of public schools. So easy to fix.
Can someone explain to me what nmewn thinks his 'point' is here?
As is so often the case with his responses, its coherence with the post to which he replies eludes me.
Is it simply that he believes that providing a few examples which are -X, proves that there is no X at all?
How does the continued disproportionate over representation of Russia's tiny Jewish community amongst the oligarchs and politicians prove that they were not even more over-rep'd amongst the Old Bolsheviks, who murdered and starved more Russians than the Nazis killed people?
Facts dont stop being facts because they make you feel uncomfortable.
https://archive.org/details/JewishDominationOfWeimarGermany1919-1932
communism in Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, And beyond was inarguably disproportionately and substantially, even mainly led by Jews who often hated both Christianity and the ethnic majority - cloaking themselves in 'equality' and 'the proletariat' as they gave orders to starve and kill from the well fed comfort of palaces and mansions.
So going back through history, just randomly skipping back & forth through time...Stalin, Ivan, Peter, Catherine, Yeltsin, Nicholas, Khrushchev are called "great Russian leaders" for some reason or another, yet, all were under the influence of da jooo's?
Well now, I'm at a complete loss for words as to why these leaders were called "great" by the very people who were subjugated by them.
Unless of course you're attempting to make the case for some Russia-centric-monarchist-nationalism ;-)
Who cares?
The people have spoken!
To Russia with love: Happy Christmas and peaceful New Year, our Russian friends.
... I guess that makes everything so much more believable.
Why not. Obinghole bases his Syrian foreign policy on the Syrian Observtory which is one guy living in a cramped London apt
I was a journalist with Associated Press briefly long ago. My editor would have sacked me for an unsourced quote.
"If you haven't got anyone who can put his/her face/name to it I assume you have made that up,' Mr. Schmitt would have said, continuing, 'this is not childrens hour here, we are a news agancy, not a fairy tale factory."
You believed him?
I see things have changed 180 degrees since you left.
Remember the Chalabi fellow who was a single-source of info on Saddam's "WMDs?"
Meh...
Putin vs Anyone or Anyone vs Putin,
If you're looking for black and white,
and no gray...
you won't find it in current geopolitical murmuring chaos.
Keep sending your Christmas cards and love to Russia though...
It sometimes feels like a newer first grade classroom here.
It's really fucked up to realize that the country in which you were born, that you love because of what you thought it stands for, and that you believed most of your life was the shining beacon of liberty, is little more in practice than a war machine of bankers and sheiks. It's also fucked up to realize that the country you were taught from early childhood ('1960's in my case) is an evil empire, has more in common with your belief system than your own country.
Same here. It was hard for me to accept since our family was heavily involved in AEC projects. Ideological purity was expected and monitored. Now I am pissed as hell and hunting for scalps. So are a lot of others now that the cat is out of the diplomatic pouch.
Well, you could always emigrate there, they do have Faaarrreee! health care ;-)
I have no interest in emigrating there. Criticizing my own country does not mean that I want to leave it or move to another country merely because it is exhibiting less banksterism and Saudi love. It is fucked up that this is the case, though.
You just want to tax (or debt bomb) the folks to "fix" the roads & bridges here huh? No examination of past centrally planned "fixes", nothing to see there, just move along?
You are nothing if not stubborn, nmewn. I could go on a rant about anarchy versus taxes, but fuck that. Merry Christmas fellow crazy Floridian. I'm dreaming of a slightly cooler Christmas where my balls are not sweaty.
Merry Christmas fellow Floridian nutcase, I'm heading that way tomorrow (Seminole) so watch out for anarchists disobeying ALL the traffic laws.
See something, say something ;-)
You're in a mood.
Just doing a little slashing & burning for the good of all.
People should be proportionate in how much blind faith & trust they place in "their leaders", they are not "sort of a God"...they are human, just like themselves.
If they're not careful some kid from Alabama or Minsk could wind up being compelled to buy something they don't want or need...or...dead on some battlefield far from home, still clutching their little flag ;-)
That cult of personality crap gets people dead.
Yezzz it certainly can, its best to recognize it for what it is and not succumb to it.
Now, am I a-Rootin-for-Putin in killing the living shit out of as many ISIS sharia law cultists as he possibly can?
Oh hell yeah!
I'm just not gonna hang his picture over my fireplace now or ever ;-)
Exactly why I'm not in Florida.
I will say it is unseasonably warm up in the 39th parallel here.
Are you one of those who criticise spending and taxes when it benefits people but at the same time quarantine the billions in military spending from the discussion?
We have to put up with this method of discussion in several countries, but we have stopped taking the politcians seriously. With a straight face they tell you that $ 3.80 have to be taken off old ladies, small children, roads or other budgets, but $ 3.8 BILLION are probably not enough for the next military adventure. Proportion!
No, I'm one of those people who criticize other people (more than likely you) for using the government as their personal mugger.
"I have no interest in emigrating there."
Some have done just that:
I recognize DeCaprio and the French guy but who is the jig?
Roy Jones Jr., a U.S. professional boxer.
Personal income tax rate 13% flat.
but no freedom of religion
Say what? Didn't Putin just open the biggest mosque in Moscow in September? Beautiful building!!!
https://youtu.be/SQRh9ogFLXg
Funny - Erdogan was there as a guest, before the big shootdown,
In one of Putin's speaches he talked about privatization reforms for medical. He also talked about targeted funds to go after areas that had poor health coverage.
Russian medical care is a mixed bag. It is making advances in some areas and falling behind in others.
Still, it is unlikely that Russian medical profession will tack on rent fees and high prices, to thus monetarily bleed out their medical patients, as in the U.S.
Excerpt:
Funding for health care is up by 200 billion rubles ($4 billion) in 2015, she told him, "and that level of funding is enough to not only maintain health care at last year's level, but will enable us to expand if we manage to keep down the price of drugs and medical implants."
Skvortsova also reported that from 1991 to 2014 infant mortality had fallen to one-third of its former level and maternal mortality to one-fourth, that cancer detection was up by between 50 and 70 percent over the previous year, that the number of rural medical facilities had actually increased and that the level of high-technology medical care available had dramatically increased.
She also said that 67 percent of all vitally important drugs are now produced in Russia, and that by 2020 that number should reach 90 percent.
http://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/russian-health-care-is-dyi...
You people are simply incredible, Really. You are constantly bashing European countries for the "socialist" health care paid for by taxes and what you all like to believe is a crap European health care system which you don't want and would not accept. A crap Canadian health care system which you would not accept... You're all happy to crack jokes and laugh at Shkreli who plays the system which you all seem to be satisfied with. You are outraged that some asshole wearing a hoodie can "play" your healthhcare system as easily as a poker game... So what is it? Outrage at Obamacare? Outrage at Shkreli and Co.? Outrage at the European system, the Canadian system?
Now it's slobbering love here at Zero Hedge all over V. Putin and Russia. Slobbering love over everything you people claim to detest.
Look at the .gov trajectory of 'Murica.
It creates dissent and a yearning for something, ANYTHING to right the ship. We had a chance at making a solid healthcare plan for all and the corporatacracy jammed it's dick all up in it. Next we get single payer.
Thank god my wife is a medical professional. Most others are on their own.
No one is bashing their healcare systems. I personally have ZERO health care, and accept my own responsibility for my health. I WILL NOT pay for obamacare. Sorry, I'm not going to pay for a bunch of fat ass tv watching mcnugget eating swine. If I die, I die. I work each day so I don't.
Why is it my responsibility to make insurence companies rich so they can take care of you? Who is it that decided that we should pay millions of dollars so that you can live a few more weeks?
Thank goodness for government, otherwise we might all die.