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Death Of Top Syrian Rebel Commander May Derail "Peace" Process, Evacuation Efforts
“For sure it will cause a big delay and it may kill the whole process. Whoever committed this crime is pushing for a military solution, not a political process solution.”
That’s a quote from Hadi al-Bahra, a Syrian opposition leader. The comments come a day after an apparent Russian airstrike killed Zahran Alloush. Alloush, the son of Saudi-based cleric Abdallah Alloush, is (or, more appropriately “was”) the leader of Jaysh al Islam, a powerful Syrian opposition group whose forces number some 10,000.
The group controls Ghouta, the site of an infamous sarin gas attack that nearly served as the excuse for a US air campaign against the Assad regime in 2013. Alloush was violently anti-Shiite and anti-Alawite but was seen as “moderate” when compared to ISIS and al-Nusra. Jaysh al Islam has fought against Islamic State in various parts of Syria.
In the wake of the commander’s death, some say UN “efforts” to negotiate a truce will now be all but impossible. As we noted on Friday, Jaysh al Islam was among the rebel groups invited to a summit in Riyadh earlier this month.”Two Army of Islam officials were among those who attended a meeting this month bringing together both the political and armed opposition,” WSJ writes, adding that “they signed a final declaration that envisioned a secular, democratically elected government in the future without Mr. Assad.”
The Syrian government has said it’s willing to meet with opposition leaders in Geneva next month. According to Hezbollah (which functions as Putin’s ground force in Syria), “the strike also killed Abdul-Nasser Shmeir, an officer who defected from the Syrian army and headed another leading Damascus-area rebel group [as well as] Mr. Alloush’s brother Mahmoud and at least 16 other rebel commanders.” Here’s more:
Despite its name, the Army of Islam is considered one of the more moderate Islamist rebel groups in Syria. Mr. Alloush considered himself a bitter enemy of both Mr. Assad and the head of Islamic State Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi—often calling them both “gang leaders.” His group fought pitched battles to chase Islamic State out of the eastern suburbs of the capital.
But the Syrian regime and its allies Iran and Russia consider the Army of Islam a “terrorist group” that like many other rebel factions should be precluded from any role in a future settlement. Some in the opposition also had misgivings about any prominent role for Mr. Alloush and his group, which has been accused of human rights abuses and extrajudicial killings.
Mr. Alloush’s killing coincided with preparations on Friday by the Syrian regime to facilitate the transfer of up to 4,000 people, including many fighters linked to Islamic State and other extremist groups as well as their families, from rebel-held areas on the southern outskirts of Damascus as part of U.N.-mediated efforts to expand a local cease-fire.
There are a couple of things worth noting there. First, there wasn't anything "moderate" about "Mr." Alloush. He essentially called for a genocide of Syrian Shiites in 2013. You can watch the video in the piece excerpted above.
The fact that anyone considers him a "moderate" undercores The Kremlin's point that differentiating between terrorists is an exercise in futility and it's also worth noting that there's no coincidence inherent in Riyadh allowing someone who has pushed for the eradiction of Shiites a place at the negotiating table.
Second, the plan to evacuate injured fighters as well as women and children from Damascus will likely now be placed on hold. "Jaish al-Islam was supposed to provide safe passage through areas east of Damascus for the buses heading to Raqa," a source told AFP on Saturday. "About 1,200 people were supposed to leave today (Saturday), but the death of Zahran Alloush means we are back to square one." Here's a bit more color:
The deal came after two months of intense talks between government and district leaders, according to the Britain-based monitor.
Backed by Saudi Arabia, Army of Islam recently took part in a landmark opposition meeting in Riyadh aimed at forming a united front for eventual talks with Assad's regime.
It has remained firmly opposed to both Assad and IS.
Analyst Karim Bitar said Alloush's death is "a severe blow to the Riyadh negotiations process".
"Given Alloush's authoritarian temper and strong rule, it will take time for Jaish al-Islam to recover from this blow and for the alternative leadership to emerge," he said.
Aron Lund, editor of the Carnegie Endowment's Syria in Crisis website, said: "In a way, Zahran Alloush has been the rare successful centraliser in the Syrian rebel movement."
But with him gone, that cohesion could "unravel", Lund added.
And make no mistake, all of this is just fine with Assad, whose army took credit for the strike despite widespread speculation that is was in fact a Russian warplane that carried out the attack. A Saudi-backed coalition of Sunni rebels is just about the last thing the Syrian government (not to mention Tehran) wants to see coalesce in Syria and the death of Alloush will certainly help to create choas among one of the country's most prominent opposition forces.
As for the Western media, the death of an extremist is being pitched as a blow the peach process. Here's The New York Times:
Mr. Alloush and his faction had not been universally accepted in the Syrian opposition — they are widely blamed for the disappearance of four secular opposition activists from the Damascus suburb of Douma. But unlike harder-line armed groups, the Army of Islam has shown a recent interest in taking part in politics, said Ibrahim Hamidi, a Syrian correspondent for Al Hayat, a pan-Arab newspaper.
Mr. Hamidi, who opposes the Syrian government, said that by having successfully targeted Mr. Alloush, Mr. Assad and his Russian allies had demonstrated their desire to pursue a military solution. “This is a rejection of the Riyadh talks,” he said.
No, it's not.
It's a rejection of the idea that someone who has variously called for the systematic extermination of a particular religious sect can somehow be part of a "political" solution to the crisis. Anyone who says otherwise is either living in a fantasy world constructed by the powers that be in Washington and Riyadh, or else has a vested interest in toppling the Assad government and undermining Iranian influence in the Arabian Peninsula.
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'Peace' process.
Fuck me I've heard it all now.
Another day, another dead muslim.
I'm content with that.
Thats because youre a stupid fucker easily brainwashed by the people who want to use America as sword, shirld and treasury to remake the middle east, using terror proxies, to benefit Israel and American mic/energy corps, all while blaming all of it on 1.2 billin muslms, who have been far more on the receiving end if us and israeli violence, far far more, than the reverse.
Fuck you, you stupid cunt. Go back to watching Fox and whacking off to Sean Hannity.
Faggot.
For sure it will cause a big delay and it may kill the whole process. Whoever committed this crime is pushing for a military solution, not a political process solution.”
War is politics by other means.
That quote isnt exactly founded in reality. The implication is that a bunch of disjointed rebel groups make it easier to come to a diplomatic agreement. And that the death of this leader could cause disorganization in the ranks of this rebel group. Massive logical gap there.
Sorry but less armies and less generals tends to lead to less war.
"...Sorry but less armies and less generals tends to lead to less war..."
How about, "Dead men tell no tales..."
Syrian Air Strike Exterminates Commander Behind 2013 Chemical Weapons Attack in Ghouta
We lost. Time to throw the head-choppers under the bus before they squeal.
So the death of some rebel leader no one ever heard of before can derail the peace process that no one ever heard of before, which means we can carry on turning the Middle East into rubble for no good reason that anyone interested in the truth has ever heard of before, while blaming the Russians like we always did before.
The US is terrified the ISIS thugs will be exterminated before the terrorist safe zones can be established, leading to the desired never-ending civil war in Syria.
In the Middle East, it's more about the "process" than the "peace". Look at the Palestine-Zionist conflict: it's been processing peace for about 3 decades now.
I am Chumbawamba.
Quite right. Nothing will improve until religion is separated from government -- ALL religion, including the new globalist 'green' cult.
If you attempt to remove the religion from the government, the government becomes the religion.
Standing ovation. BRAVO!
If there are any questions - there you have it.
@Paveway IV
"...Sorry but less armies and less generals tends to lead to less war..."
How about, "Dead men tell no tales..."
I laughed so hard I snorted my b'day cake. HAHAHA!
The Saudis hand out billions to create a killer "moderate" mercenary army which has ruthlessly killled thousands of Syrians, like they are fucking interested in a "peace process".
There is a special place in hell reserved for these bastards, and I applaud the Russians for sending them there.
From Veterans Today, December 25, 2015:
"Major CIA Operative in Syria, Zahran Allouch of Jeish Al Islam Killed by Russians"
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/12/25/major-cia-operative-in-syria-zah...
Also from Veterans Today, December 24, 2015:
Sickening: US Evacuating ISIS/Israeli Military Commanders from Ramadi
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/12/24/sickening-us-evacuating-isisisra...
More info on the Syrian claim that they and not the Russians performed the attack. It's possible I guess that the Syrians and Russians agreed to say this so Syria takes the heat and not the Russians.
Syrian Air Force Intelligence behind Alloush assassination in rural Damascus
"... One of the intelligence officers that infiltrated Alloush’s network had revealed to the AFI the precise location of the Islamist rebel command meeting that was taking place in the East Ghouta; this ultimately led to the death of Zahran Alloush and his comrades..."
Even more possible that veteranstoday.com has it wrong.
The Syrian air force had already formally confirmed that the Syrian air force killed Zahran Alloush. And they are proud of their accomplishment.
http://sana.sy/en/?p=64870
Funny that the guy who accuses IS and Assad of being 'gang leaders' gets taken out in a Godfather III-style hit!
The Syrians had, and maybe still have, deeply placed agents within the ISIS groups. One Syrian Army officer posed as a Free Syrian Army rebel for 3 years, all the time passing intelligence back to Syrian Military Intelligence. He returned back to the Syrian side in mid October.
https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2015/10/18/saaf-undercover-agent/
A true patriot.
Anyone know if the Russians have updated the Syrian air force planes. I saw videos of some of the stuff the are flying with old tired jets and old bombs.
The Syrians military and Syrian people are brave. They are standing up to evil and have my total respect.
They have six or eight very modern air to air fighters delivered recently. They were ordered in 2007, delivered August 2015.
https://web.archive.org/web/20151017120452/http://presstv.com/Detail/201...
More, very colorful:
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http://syrianperspective.com/2015/12/zahraan-alloosh-dismembered-by-syri...
Ziad at Syrian Persepctive is colorful. His son also does great work on his own web site. They have family back in Syria. Zaid is a Syrian Christian in Michigan who is a lawyer and a U of Mich fan.
He refers to all the Jihadi headchoppers and Saudis as rats and vermin.
The post above is so true that it's scary.
Assuming the Russians took the time to give them all a severe enema ....maybe they could become recovering Muslims and act like normal people on the planet earth.
Wrap some electrical wire around their heads a few times and plug it in. In 30 seconds they would be screaming and telling you they are thinking better. they might even tell you they are Catholic.
Like I posted before. Who were the jackasses that made the decision to give all that wealth to them (ME) in the first place? They are now using that wealth to destroy us? Christ! Do we need to dig up Nixon? The Saudis are going to win and that is a sickening thought. The USA (to say nothing of Europe) is such a fragmented country that we will never get our shit together to mount an decent offensive to the Muslim takeover. I don't know if a decent offensive to their level of commitment even exists. When Native Americans tell you they want the Muslims here...what's left? The Russians may be our only hope....how did we get to this rut in the road? Maybe the Russians can give George W. a severe enema and coax a confession out of him for some of it. Maybe we can beg for mercy and say George W. was an out of control idiot and we are sorry for the things he done.
Who is responsible for this guys? What a great blog subject this would be for ZH. All the Bushes were asshole deep in all this and a lot of people think they should be tried and put in jail. JEB! for president? You got to be shitting me.
There is no peace process and never will be.
The goal is regime change in Syria and any non Rothschild banking country, a one world government and a NWO, so the agenda continues on unabated......
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/as-events-spiral-ou...
The bankers will eventually be evicted to be replaced with something far worse, the NWO will come from the East, not the West.
The MSM shows it's hand again. The meme that this strike stops the peace process rings quite hollow. A high level thug gets bug-splatted by the good guys, he was at most the "nice" face of the bloody takfiris but by no means representative of more than a small fraction of Syrians.
And yet, the NATO clown car, driven by uncle sam, demands a peace process designed to exclude Assad.
What a bunch of wankers.
He's a Saudi, fuck him along with his buddies and his family of inbred sunni trash
House of Saud has Jewish origins:
https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/2002-iraqi-intel-report...
Possibly quite true. Think of Judaism as the human equivalent of a virus able to infect people, society and government. It's a disease, like Islamic extremism. Nature laid out the path in the Great Plague and we're simply just recipients or, as viroligists put it, the host.
Chumbawamba looks like a Khazar even though he claims he is from Syria.
Remember the film Lawrence of Arabia aka T.E. Lawrence. Well did the British hand over Arabia to the Arabs? Not so fast. My guess the Foreign Office aka Mi6 aka the Red Sheild made sure they were gonna control that oil and they knew there was oil there in the 1920s or so.
Lawrence died in 1935 and the House of Fraud granted oil licenses in 1933. So it was known that oil was there.
Anyone thinking the British would let full blooded Arabs run the place have to be delusional.
He said he was a Muslim....he could have recovered.
So before he was a much courted "moderate" fighter, now he's honored dead, and just a notch on a Russian group commanders white board somewhere.
Guess he didn't get his 72 virgins then. Boo fucking hoo.
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/01/the-great-koran.html
The joke on all these Daeshtards is this: you dont get 72 virgins. You get 72 raisins or white grapes
63 year old Iraqi sniper using a .50 caliber BMG has killed 171 ISIS rats over the past six months. He has been through many wars - most caused by Uncle Sham. Sadly, he also probably killed some American troops as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxXdvD_StpM
It looks like a bolt action .50 cal. Sort of like a Barrett but a lot of .50 cal BMGs look like this. He appears to be really high up in the makhouri mountains.
You mis read the headline.
It is the Pieces process.
How to turn the leaders of all of the factions into pieces.
If they kill 'em all and let God sort it out, we are all good.
Then, ordinary people can live in peace.
Nigga, please.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/23/putins-progress-in-syria-sends-ke...
Cf.:
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/05/syrian-war-prequel.html?m=1
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/12/us-caught-faking-it-in-syria/
He's well dead and all like him will be dead soon too.
Who said we want a truce???
And what the fuck is the UN doing over there???
Just bomb it all and let them go to Allah!!
don't leave out the one who want to go to yahweh.
Timeline of alleged/suspected israeli false flags
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=western_support_for_...
9/11, Anthrax, Vans, and Israelis
http://youtu.be/QphxGBXiA-M
zionist (Likudnik) plan for Greater Israel
http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-mid...
orthodox Jewish vision of same:
http://www.ahavat-israel.com/eretz/future
oh fuck, just bomb those evil camel fuckers in Riyadh already.
We keep being told how evil Assad is yet in Syria all sorts of various religious groups exists and have their houses of worship.
How many churches are there in Saudi Arabia???
What would happen to a Christian missionary who went there and attempted to discuss his religion in public?
How about an Atheist who attempted to argue his point of view??
If you want to bomb some religiously intolerant and evil bastards, start bombing Riyadh.
"Whoever committed this crime is pushing for a military solution, not a political process solution."
Aww, you poor baby. Killing a piece of shit who took part in destroying Syria is a crime? I think whoever killed the guy needs to be promoted for doing humanity a favor!
Interesting that the "rebels" are interested in a peaceful solution now that they're losing.
Did the UN'S plan to move people make sense to anybody in the first place. The turd that got killed was simply a liar. Who actually knows where his loyalty was.
The problem is we are sending tea strainers over there who couldn't find their ass if they had six hands and they are making policy. They are known geniuses because they have relatives in high places. No wonder the place is a disaster.
Damn that Man Putin-!
Always killing our enemies before we do-!
Do You Suffer From Putinitis?Syrian Opposition Leaders are like potato chips: you really can't stop with just one. Am expecting Putin/Assad to follow up now with more squashed Commando centers before Jan01. So by the time the Riyadh Talks commence, the only thing left to do will be for Putin to pass around complimentary gift packs of Leaders Number One cologne.
Cutting to the chase...
Russia knock the fucking stuffing anything coming in or going out of Syria and it's borders...
And make a glass skating rink out of Tel Aviv, Haifa and Riyadh!!!
Might as well get started early on the New Year's Eve party starting today folks!
And so this is Christmas...
this could also be in retaliation for the reported israeli strike that killed a hezbollah leader a few days ago.putin is taking out the rooks and bishops.
Riyadh Peace Process what a mother fucking joke
>“For sure it will cause a big delay and it may kill (!)
>the whole process. Whoever committed this
>crime (!) is pushing for a military solution, not a
>political process solution.”
War is the continuation of politics by other means.
Putin trumps Obama.
Trumps, heh.
Hang on a bit!
This Alloush is a Saudi.
So the plan is to hand the government of Syria to a Saudi?
Think not.
Good riddance.
"It's a rejection of the idea that someone who has variously called for the systematic extermination of a particular religious sect can somehow be part of a "political" solution to the crisis. Anyone who says otherwise is either living in a fantasy world constructed by the powers that be in Washington and Riyadh, or else has a vested interest in toppling the Assad government and undermining Iranian influence in the Arabian Peninsula."
Bravo!!!
"But unlike harder-line armed groups, the Army of Islam has shown a recent interest in taking part in politics, said Ibrahim Hamidi, a Syrian correspondent for Al Hayat, a pan-Arab newspaper." - The New York Times
Before editing this excerpt from the NYT read ...
"But unlike harder-line armed groups, the Army of Islam, after taking a severe arse-pounding from the Russian airforce and realising that their days are numbered, has shown a recent interest in taking part in politics, said Ibrahim Hamidi, a Syrian correspondent for Al Hayat, a pan-Arab newspaper. They therefore recommended to their handlers in Washington DC that John Kerry should mince over to the United Nations to propose a "peace process" in an attempt to save their sorry arses before the Russians incinerate them."
Hasn't this guy died about ten times now?
Putin and Lavrov have said many times recently that for the year of the US Coalition's comical bombing of ISIS (but not their oil transports), the UN was silent about the need for a truce or cease fire. Now that Russia has entered the fray and ISIS is getting its balls shaved the phony UN has declared a cease fire in Syria to be of the utmost importance. The UN being the mouthpiece of the US, who doesn't want to see its valuable creation decimated.
But Syria and Russia have stated that until a list of all the rebels, naughty and nice, is presented to them there can be no peace agreement. The opposition and Saudi Arabia are totally unwilling to commit on paper as to which rebels should or should not participate in what they see as the ultimate de-Assadation of the government in Damascus.
This reminds us that the US will not give Russia any information about ISIS targets until Assad officially quits office.
Very good article.
BTW, the American storehouses of popcorn are said to be running low.
Irish Spring is a good bar of soap .... Arab Spring is a blood bath ?
Don't bend over in the men's shower room to pick up your Irish Spring bar of soap, dude, or you'll be doing the slippery goose step back to your bunk.
burn the zionists at the stake & the world will experience peace ever lasting....
go quickly while petrol is still cheap!
you live by the sword, you die by the sword, fucker
doubtful
Remember it was the US who wanted these talks in the name of their 'moderate' minions.
Now that Abdallah Alloush has been shuffled off, the opposition is in more need than ever of a respite in the fighting.
Let them play hard to get for another week or two and then they'll be begging for talks again.
But the talks will never get started as long as some of the opposition insist, as a precondition that Assad bow out first.
The New York Times is guilty of astroturfing on this issue.
This is Obama's and the Muslim Brotherhood's war. Not a civil war but the attempt by these Isllamists to overthrow a government and install a Jihadist regime to attack Israel. Egypt, Libya, and Syria are Obama's wars and have resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths. No peace possible under IL Douche.
the MIC and IC (intelligence community) must be fed<WTF!>
america has sub-subcontrac?ead our entire SoS & DoD with congress, and lets not forget the legislative branch and judicial (corporations are people too?) lapping up the crumbs that are few and inbetween?
we're broke folks! it all started with Reagan[?] (ironically Reagan only cut a few gov't programs) breaking the unions of air-traffic controllers was the most noticed. But, unbeknowst to most Bush #41 wanted to keep gov't at... 'steady-as-she-goes'... status quo! (?laissez faire?)
Clinton killed america with outsourcing, not bush #41 or reagan.
norquist, gingrich, scanlon, abramoff, phillips and delay fucked up america, with their 'Laboratory of Liberty (Saipan/CNMI now in USSA) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Revolution
next comes baby g.w. bush #43 carrying clinton's torch of liberty for corporate outsourcing and firing moar gov't employee's than clinton did under james woolsey DIA leadership (23 months of total foreign policy CIA stations and handler carnage). afpak!?! if I've got my figures correct, Clinto and GORE (mr. internet) fired moar federal employees than any executive branch in america's history! i'll get the (1993-2001) numbers, but, please trust me on this one.
Bush #43 killed america along with Cheney (mr halliburton/ kbr), Rumfeld, Frank C. Carlucci (Rand/ Carlyle Group), Jocques Gansler (point man for Rand/ Carlyle groups), William J. Perry etel.!
here,... finally is the low down on how we got to where were at: "A Catalogue of Failures: G8 Arms Exports and Human Rights Violations" http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3443.htm
"Office of Program Manager, Saudi Arabia Nat'l. Moderdernization Program" http://www.globalsecurity.org/military///agency/dod/opm-sang.htm
"Saudi Arabia gets quiet help from U.S. Firm with Connections" http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=11176
"The Carlyle Group and Halliburton" (KBR) http://www.apfn.org/apfn/Carlyle_group.htm
lastly, 'LOGCAP' , the rain$$$maker! http://www.dangerzonejobs.com/artman/publish/cat_index_98.shtml
Somebody bring a dildo to old fart granpy mcsame as he is weeping like an old pu$$y. Go meet your pimps criminal old fart
Stopped reading at:
"Aron Lund, editor of the Carnegie Endowment's Syria in Crisis website, said: "In a way, Zahran Alloush has been the rare successful centraliser in the Syrian rebel movement."
Pure, nakid, globalist horseshit.
"Crime"? Crime? Killing a foreigner who tried to overthrow the legitimate government of a sovereign country through armed rebellion and terror is a crime? God, they certainly know not what they are talking, but that is no excuse for showing them any mercy.
Killing terrorists is good. Less cobra head is good for the world..
The Russian strike did not eliminate only Zahir Allash, but many of his closest commanders (Egyptian Agency albawaba). This could be an irrepairable blow..
"the Army of Islam is considered one of the more moderate Islamist rebel groups in Syria"
As we all know, a moderate terrorist uses moderate machine-guns, moderate bullets, moderate beheadings, moderate terror attacks, etc.
The difference with a bad terrorist being something George Orwell could explain very well. He had a sort of knack for explaining nuances like that. Sort of made him famous, even.
On a side note, why do 'Murikans always need to write thing like "And make no mistake"? Is finger-wagging an inborn 'Murikan pathology or do they teach you how to be irritating at school?
I make mistakes if I want to make mistakes. It's my inborn right as a human. Are we clear?
On moderates...I am reliably informed that moderate terrorist gangsters only chop heads off on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Fridays after prayer and for 7 full days after Ramadan. So that makes it easy for our all-knowing and trustworthy Western.govs to know who's what. Any terrorist gangster who chops heads off on Mondays, Thursdays and Saturday/Sundays is therefore not a moderate.
On "make no mistake"...it's just a term used by people to stress the seriousness of what they're saying. Brits use it too, or some other phrase of equal meaning.
Moderate terrorists wont head lop trannies, lesbians and peter puffers
Crystal
This had to be the Joooooooos
Or neocons right?
Some people claim that Zahran Alloush's brother or cousin Hussam Ayloush (last name is spelled differently) is the Executive Director of the Los Angeles Area office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), and the Chairman of the Syrian American Council which lobby's Washington to support the rebel groups in Syria especially the Jaish-al-Islam group that was led by his brother Zahran?
It's a family business!
http://hussamayloush.blogspot.it/
I don't think killing this guy was a crime. It's a war, all is fair in war, or so I've been lead to believe. Not killing him may be seen as a crime, a crime against humanity. All the infidels should leave the middle east, yes leave the muslims to do what they do best kill each other. I say let them, get out of there take a seat and watch the blood shed and be glad it wasn't any of an American. The Russians could go home and be glad no Russian blood was spilled. They would have only Muslims to rape and slaughter, maybe then they'll finally be happy and get what seems to be eluding them, that being "Enough Blood"