The Mystery Of Dubai's Vaporized Gold: The Plot Thickens

Tyler Durden's picture

Earlier this week, we told a fascinating story about an unprecedented, multi-year smuggling ring involving Turkey, Iran, and Dubai (as well as China, Russia and countless other nations) which saw corruption reaching to the very top of the political and financial establishment: from president Erdogan in Turkey, to one of Turkey's richest people, Iran-born Riza Sarraf, to Sheikh Sultan Bin Khalifa Al Nahyan, the son of the ruler of Abu Dhabi and one of the world's richest people. The smuggled object in question was gold, billions of dollars worth of gold.

The focus of the story was the previously unknown Dubai gold trading house, Gold.AE, until recently managed by one Mohammed Abu-Alhaj, which as we showed was the primary conduit by which Turkish physical gold found its way "legally" in Dubai, from where it subsequently left for Iran but not before pocketing millions in "commissions."

As we reported, Gold.AE - a subsidiary of Gold Holding, the largest gold-focused investment holding company headquartered in Dubai - and the company perhaps best known for launching gold ATMs in the Emirates back in 2010...

... announced a few days ago that it had suddenly and unexpectedly gone out of business, after an inquiry by minority shareholders announced that the entire old "management team abruptly resigned with no notice" and that "there had been substantial withdrawals from the company's account to the personal accounts of some of the management and the majority shareholders."

In other words, the company which was used as a cover for billions in gold transactions over the last several years in the Turkey-Iran gold smuggling trade, was suddenly not only insolvent but had been thoroughly plundered of all its holdings, including a thorough plundering of client accounts.

Think the Corzining of MF Global, only on steroids, goes to Dubai.

To be sure the police was quickly involved:

In order to try and secure/recover monies that had been taken out of the accounts of the company, Mr. Gauthier in his capacity as manager has filed various cases as against the recipients of the funds from the Company (Dubai Police ( Bur Dubai Police Station), Case No: 24378). The minority shareholders are doing everything within their powers to support him in his efforts to recover these monies that were withdrawn from Gold AE in questionable circumstances.


DMCC has alleged that some of these activities undertaken by the previous management are in breach of DMCC's rules and as such they have taken the decision to terminate the license of the Company. We are working closely with DMCC to find a solution and in the meanwhile, we request that you bear with us. In the meanwhile, as a statutory consequence of the license being terminated, the trading platform of the Company has to shut down as of the date of termination of the license which is 24th November 2015.

However, since as Gold.AE admitted a Swiss bank account had been uncovered, it is very unlikely that any of the funds involved will be recovered.

And now that the gold-trading company at the nexus of what may have been the world's biggest gold smuggling ring in history has imploded seemingly overnight, vaporizing countless tons of physical gold and unknown amounts of client cash, even more questions remain.

One attempt to answer some of these comes from the website of Arabian Business, which has picked up on this trail and reports that it is understood that the previous management team were replaced in March, resulting in the appointment of Andres Gauthier as CEO and Mo Nico Consari as managing director.

It is unclear why or what prompted the removal of the previous management team, or why it took nearly 9 months for an update to clients to be issued, in which it was made abundantly clear that there was no money left in the gold trading organization.

The article continues:

Gold AE suspended its services without warning in October, according to a handful of its customers who claim not to have been able to access their accounts for several weeks.


The December 16 Gold AE email to customers states that, during an internal investigation, Gold AE’s acting management found that members of the previous management team “had used significant amounts of client and shareholders’ money and transferred [it] to multiple locations, including Switzerland, Jordan, Turkey and Saudi Arabia.”


It is understood that Gold AE’s customers have been urged to initiate arbitration in Dubai’s courts on an individual basis in order to recoup their lost investments.


However, customers claim they have been left in the dark about what has been going on at the company and have been unable to trade their product or access their accounts.

How much money have clients lost?  "One customer, who asked not to be named, told Arabian Business they were in touch with around 60 of Gold AE’s estimated 2,000 clients and that that minority alone claims to have around AED12 million ($3.2 million) locked up in the company."

This is just a small portion of what was supposed to be client "segregated" accounts, which lately we have seen are nothing but a piggy bank for corrupt management to borrow from, or steal outright, at whim.

According to Arabian Business, it is thought the total amount of missing funds reaches $25-30 million. The reality, however, is that nobody knows and a far more important question is how many hundreds of millions or billions were funneled through Gold.AE in the period starting in 2012 when the company's now disgraced former manager, Abu-Alhaj, became the Dubai frontman for all Turkish gold laundering.

As for Gold.AE's clients, they are understandably furious:

The source claimed Gold Holding “has failed to take responsibility and that DMCC and DIFC are playing ping-pong with us customers while we go to appeal to try to solve this matter.” The source added: “No one is taking responsibility to resolve this and we as customers are feeling very helpless.


“Even the police are not taking this up and are directing us towards the court. So we are in the process of appointing lawyers to represent us in court.” Dubai Police and Dubai Courts did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Considering a major shareholder of Gold.AE's holding company is none other than Abu Dhabi's second most important person, this is not a surprise.

Additionally, the regulators are also now involved. Too bad that, just like in the US, they arrived on the scene just a little bit too late:

A spokesman for the DMCC said in an emailed statement to Arabian Business: “DMCC is aware of allegations relating to Gold AE, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Gold Holding Limited - a DIFC-licensed entity.

“We have conducted an internal investigation into the allegations of fraudulent activity by Gold AE. As a result of this investigation, DMCC has terminated the trade licence for Gold AE and have notified Gold Holding Limited accordingly.

“By terminating the trade licence of Gold AE, the company is mandated by law to cease all of its trade operations and not undertake any further commercial activities. We are closely monitoring the matter and have verified information that relevant authorities are taking necessary next steps.

“In its capacity as licensing authority, DMCC is unable to provide specific financial or legal advice to any customer of Gold AE. We encourage strongly that all customers of Gold AE contact Gold Holding Limited for further information.

“In order to assist customers of Gold AE who are experiencing difficulty in receiving information from Gold AE, DMCC is preparing further guidance for all clients of Gold AE, which will be issued shortly.

“In the meantime, please send any enquiries to We will forward them on to Gold Holding Limited who, we understand, is collating customer information at this time.”

And now the rush to make sure any link between the criminal Gold.AE and its parent, SBK Holdings-owned Gold Holdings is immediately severed. A spokesperson for the DIFC said: "We wish to make it clear that although Gold AE is a subsidiary of M/s Gold Holding, which is a DIFC-based holding company, Gold AE and M/s Gold Holding Ltd are two separate entities."

"We wish also to clarify that M/s Gold Holding Ltd is, to our knowledge, not involved in any trading operations, client-facing business affecting clients of Gold AE or the provision of any financial services. Accordingly, it is not regulated by the Dubai Financial Services Authority."

Why the scramble to exonerate Gold Holding Ltd? Because as we reported yesterday, it is owned by this man: Sheikh Sultan Bin Khalifa Bin Zayed Al Nahyan.

Sultan is the advisor to the President of UAE, the eldest son of Khalifa Bin, President of the United Arab Emirates, Supreme Commander of the UAE Armed Forces, and Ruler of Abu Dhabi.

Sultan may just be most important young person in Dubai, which makes him among the top 20 most important, not to mention wealthiest, in the world.

It would not be good for his reputation if it emerged that not only is his holding company involved in the biggest gold smuggling scandal in history, but that said company just vaporized after an unprecedented case of management embezzlement.

Or is it?

When Arabian Business emailed the public inquiries email address for Gold Holding,, it received a reply from Mohammad Abdel Khaleq Abu Al Haj, who is a member of Gold AE’s previous management team facing allegations of fraud.

Al Haj insisted in his email that Gold AE’s existing management team were responsible for the alleged fraudulent activity. He also claimed that requests by him for meetings with shareholders to discuss management issues had been refused.

So, is the former CEO of Gold.AE the criminal mastermind, the person who was responsible for the Turkish gold presence in Dubai, and the one who defrauded Gold.AE... or is he merely the fall guy: after all the new management team, according to Arabian Business, had been at the company since March: how could it take it 9 months to uncover that the company was nothing but a hollow shell, whose assets had been pilfered by the previous management.

And if indeed this crazy story which has every possible James Bond element in it culminates with a case of scapegoating, does that immediately mean that Sheikh Sultan Bin Khalifa, a person at the top of the Gulf's political and financial oligarchy, is involved. Because if he is, so is the US, as nothing happens in Abu Dhabi without the United States being aware of it. Finally, if that is the case, it means that not only did the US sanction what has been the world's biggest gold smuggling ring, but that it implicitly gave Iran its blessing to use barterable Turkish gold in order to bypass sanctions imposed by... the United States!

In the next installment of this action and mystery-packed series, we hope to uncover just what the role of the "developed" countries was in this massive smuggling operation, and perhaps even more importantly, where did Turkey end up buying hundreds of tons of gold which it subsequently sold to Iran and where did the Iranian gold ultimately end up?

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Mr.Sono's picture

If you don't hold it, then you don't own it.

Soul Glow's picture

<--- There is 14k tonnes of gold at the Fed's banks

<--- There is NOT 14k tonnes of gold at the Fed's banks

VWAndy's picture

Not if was being used to trade for millions of barrels of oil.

beemasters's picture

"So, is the former CEO of Gold.AE the criminal mastermind, the person who was responsible for the Turkish gold presence in Dubai, and the one who defrauded Gold.AE... or is he merely the fallguy"

Short answer: The latter.

old naughty's picture

gold seemed to have a habit of disappearing during widespread (Civil, WW2) war, no?

So what are we concluding?

847328_3527's picture

" We Schlonged some folks. "

RAT005's picture

ZH, great follow up and recap. Much easier to understand than the original article. 

38BWD22's picture



Indeed.  Moar, please.

gmrpeabody's picture

Oh yeah..., gold will be recovered, no doubt.


knukles's picture

Your segregated account, sir?
Oh yes, it's still segregated.  A long long way segregated.
Object?  You object, sir?  To the back of the segregated complaint bus with you!

VinceFostersGhost's picture





Your Chinese (fire) crap.


Even Jon Corzine wouldn't have attempted die for doing crap like that over there.

USisCorrupt's picture

All roads will lead back to J.P. Morgue and Goldman Sucks, just give it time.

BaBaBouy's picture

""The Mystery Of Dubai's Vaporized Gold""

Where Is The GOLD???

Thats What US Media should be asking...

Why NO Independent Audit Of FT KNOX GOLD 8000+ Tonnes.

HAS US GOLD been sold???

ASK: Where Is The GOLD???


Four chan's picture

no fucks are given by my stacks.

InjectTheVenom's picture

President Trump will audit Ft Knox...and the Fed...

Lore's picture

Beware of Arab operatives bearing nailguns. "We traverse afar."

bamawatson's picture

yet an article about a bunch of thievin sand niggers devolves in to pages of jew bashing. and this sight is considered elite?

Save_America1st's picture

Gee, all this mystery and intrigue over some worthless barbarous relic?  Egypt's gold stolen, Saudi gold stolen, Iraq gold stolen, Libya gold stolen, Ukrain gold stolen, most of the West gold sold away along with all the other stolen gold all ending up in China or Russia.  Sure seems like a lot of effort for a bunch of paper weights, door stops, and pet rocks.



VinceFostersGhost's picture



You forgot the 911's gone baby.


Remember that Nazi gold train?


Yup....can't find that either.


Someone spent a whole lot of time and energy on that hoax....and I didn't believe it for a second.

Slomotrainwreck's picture

If it's not under your pillow, you can't kiss it goodnight.

Bay of Pigs's picture

Owners of GLD and SLV should pay attention to stories like this.

RafterManFMJ's picture

The A-rabs let their AU get away? They must have an average IQ of 79.

VinceFostersGhost's picture



Only the ones that had an account.....the ones that got away with the gold....a little higher.

SoilMyselfRotten's picture

They call them majority shareholders, how benign

SWRichmond's picture

yeah the majority shafted the minority, how unusual.

They voted on what to have for dinner, and the vote came up "minority shareholders".

greenskeeper carl's picture

ya if i was that guy, I definitely wouldn't be going to any secret meetings out in the middle of the desert, that for sure. WHat better fall guy to take the blame than a guy who simply 'disappears'. Im thinking something like a hajji version of holes in the desert a-la las vegas/goodfellas

NidStyles's picture

Have they checked near: 32°4?N 34°47?E ?



old naughty's picture

is that a locale on earth or some moon around Mars?

NidStyles's picture

It's the cordinates for Tel Aviv in civvies speech. 

SuperRay's picture

Can you hear the echoes (echoes...echoes) in the vaults at Fort Knox?

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Mr.Sono (@12/26 - 19:29 | 6966084): "If you don't hold it, then you don't own it."

My wife claims that she owns "it", even when she's not holding it.  Suspect yours does too.  ;-)

gold-silver-bug's picture
gold-silver-bug (not verified) Kirk2NCC1701 Dec 26, 2015 8:01 PM

Who owns Big Auto, Big Oil, Big Pharma and Big Banks? The same people running "Big Government"!!! The 5 trillion pound gorilla in the room:

Rahm Emanuel
Chief of Staff, Son of a Zionist terrorist; dual-citizen of Israel and America.

David Axelrod
Senior Advisor to the President, Jewish.

Elena Kagan (2009- )
Supreme court Justice - Jewish (40% of which are Jewish in the S. Court)

Douglas Shulman
IRS Commissioner, Jewish.

Janet Yellen
Federal Reserve Bank chairman, Jewish.
Benjamin Shalom Bernanke (previous chairman, Jewish) Alan Greenspan (next previous chairman, Jewish)


Gary Gensler (2009- )
Chair of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission - Jewish

Mary Schapiro (2009- )
Chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission - Jewish

Jason Furman
Director Of Economic Policy, Jewish.

Steven Rattner
Treasury Advisor For Auto Sector, Jewish.

Robert Rubin
Economic Advisor to the President, Jewish.

Alan Blinder
Economic Advisor to the President, Jewish.

Jon Leibowitz
Chairman Of FTC, Jewish.

Timothy Geithner
Treasury Secretary, Crypto-Jew?. All reliable information points to him being ethnically Jewish (at least partially), but if not, he definitely married into The Tribe (m. Carole Sonnenfeld, 1985)

Janet Napolitano
Secretary of Department of Homeland Security, Jewish. Born to Jewish mother (technically makes her Jewish), she claims her religion is now Methodist.

Ronald Klain
Chief of Staff to the Vice President, Jewish.

Jared Bernstein, Jewish
Chief Economist and Economic Policy Adviser to the Vice President.

Paul Volcker
Economic Advisor to the President, Former Head of Fed Reserve, 

Lee Feinstein (2009- ) Jewish
Foreign Policy Advisor

Ronald Klain (2009- ) Jewish
Chief of Staff to the Vice President

Jack Lew (2009- ) Jewish
Deputy Secretary of State

Eric Lynn (2009- ) Jewish
Middle East Policy Advisor

Peter Orszag (2009- ) Jewish
Director of the Office of Management and Budget. Formerly a member of Clinton’s Whitehouse, advisor to the Bank of Iceland before they crashed and burned, and also advisor to the Jewish Oligarchs in Russia when they started stealing billions.

Dennis Ross (2009- )
Special Advisor for the Gulf and Southwest Asia to the Secretary of State Mara Rudman (2009- ) Foreign Policy Advisor

Dan Shapiro (2009- )
Head of Middle East desk at the National Security Council (yet another ‘neutral diplomatic Jew’ when it comes to foreign policy matters involving the Middle East); also a major Washington lobbyist and fundraiser for the Democratic Party.

James B. Steinberg (2009- ) and Jacob Lew, Deputy
Secretaries of State, second in rank only to Hillary Clinton in foreign policy matters (meaning if something happens to her one of them will take over, giving a Jew yet another major Cabinet slot); both of these people are hardcore Zionist Israel Firsters, so it is difficult to imagine how they
will remain objective and neutral when it comes to dealing with foreign
policy matters in the Middle East.

Lawrence Summers (2009- )
Director National Economic Council, Crypto-Jew (real name: Samuelson)

Mona Sutphen (2009- ) Jewish
Deputy White House Chief of Staff

Eric Lander AND Harold E. Varmus,
Co-Chairs of the President’s Council of Advisers on Science/Technology.

Penny Pritzker
Obama’s National Finance Chair during the election cycle; she is a billionaire
heiress of the Pritzker family fortune (at least 5-7 separate billionaires  in
the family); the Pritzkers are major players in the ’squeaky clean’  Chicago political scene.

Robert Reich
Economic adviser to Obama-Biden.

Nora Volkow
Director, National Institute of Drug Abuse. Great-grandaughter of


(Leon Bronstein), Bolshevik murderer and point man for the

Banking Jew’s over-throw of Russia.

Richard Hass
President of the CFR and Obama’s ambassador at large.

Jon Leibowitz
Chairman, Federal Trade Commission.

Alan Bersin
Special Representive for Border Affairs.

Susan Sher
Chief of Staff for Michelle Obama.

Thanks to

Obama’s Jews, Change we can’t believe in


Economic Czar
Larry Summers (real name: Samuelson)

Regulatory Czar
Cass Sunstein

Pay Czar

Kenneth Feinberg

Medical Czar
Ezekiel Emanuel (brother of Rahm Emanuel)

Guantanamo [torture]/Military Jails Czar
Daniel Fried

Car Czar
Steven Rattner

Border Czar
Alan Bersin

Climate Czar
Todd Stern

Global Warming Czar
Carol Browner

Climate Change Czar
Todd Stern


Richard Holbrooke
Special Envoy to Pakistan/Afghanistan

Stuart Levey
Under Secretary for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence

Lawrence Summers
Chairman, National Economic Council

Paul Volcker: Chairman, Economic Recovery Advisory Board

Jared Bernstein
Chief Economist and Economic Adviser,

Peter Orszag
Director, Office of Management and Budget

Jason Furman
Deputy Director, Office of Management and Budget

Dennis Ross
Obama’s Ambassador-At-Large in the (Entire) Middle East

Jeffrey Zeints
Performance Officer to streamline government and cut costs as well

Deputy Director for Management at the Office of Management and


Gary Gensler
Chairman, Commodity Futures Trading Commission

Mary Schapiro
Chairwoman, Securities and Exchange Commission

Sheila Bair
Chairman, Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation

Karen Mills
Administrator, Small Business Administration

Jon Leibowitz
Chairman, Federal Trade Commission

Douglas Shulman
Commissioner, Internal Revenue Service

Neil M. Barofsky

Office of the Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset

Relief Program

The Federal Reserve…

Benjamin S. Bernanke
Chairman of the Federal Reserve (replaced by Janet Yellen - Jewish)

FRB of Boston
Eric S. Rosengren: Jewish

Timothy F. Geithner: (former) FRB of New York.
Former Goldman Sachs executive Stephen Friedman was acting head

May, when questions about his insider Goldman Sachs stock purchases

up and he stepped down. Denis Hughes, an apparent Goyim labor

fills the spot at least until December, when a new one will be

named for

FRB of Philadelphia
Charles I. Plosser: Jewish

FRB of Richmond
Jeffrey M. Lacker: Jewish

FRB of St. Louis
James B. Bullard: Jewish

FRB of Minneapolis
Gary H. Stern: Jewish

FRB of Kansas City
Thomas M. Hoenig: Jewish

FRB of Dallas
Richard W. Fisher: Jewish

FRB of San Francisco
Janet L. Yellen: Jewish

FRB of Cleveland
Sandra Pianalto: gentile

FRB of Atlanta
Dennis P. Lockhart: gentile

FRB of Chicago
Charles L. Evans: gentile

Kosher Kongress

updated list of Jews in the U.S. Senate and House of

Don’t forget the crypto jews and the shabbas goy sympathizers,

solidify ZOG’s stranglehold on “our” government. Knowing the enemy

half the battle.

To whom do these alien infiltrators pledge their
allegiance? It is not the United States of America or the

upon which it was founded.


Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.)

Benjamin Cardin (D-Md.)

Franken (D-Minn.) He Replaced Jew Norm Coleman in a highly

contested election
vote count.

Feingold (D-Wisc.)

Feinstein (D-Calif.)

Herb Kohl

Lautenberg (D-N.J.)

Lieberman (I-Conn.)

Levin (D-Mich.)

Sanders (I-Vt.)

Schumer (D-N.Y.)

Specter (R-Pa.)

Ron Wyden


Ackerman (D-N.Y.)

Adler (D-N.J.)

Berkley (D-Nev.)

Berman (D-Calif.)

Cantor (R-Va.)

Cohen (D-Tenn.)

Davis (D-Calif.)

Engel (D-N.Y.)

Filner (D-Calif.)

Frank (D-Mass.)

Giffords (D-Ariz.)

Grayson (D-Fla.)

Harman (D-Calif.)

Hodes (D-N.H.)

Israel (D-N.Y.)

Kagen (D-Wisc.)

Ron Klein

Levin (D-Mich.)

Lowey (D-N.Y.)

Nadler (D-N.Y.)

Polis (D-Colo.)*

Rothman (D-N.J.)

Schakowsky (D-Ill.)

Schwartz (D-Pa.)

Schiff (D-Calif.)

Sherman (D-Calif.)

Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.)

Waxman (D-Calif.)

Weiner (D-N.Y.)

Wexler (D-Fla.)/

tarabel's picture



Let's see...

Russ Feingold -- not a member of the Senate

Frank Lautenberg -- not a member of the Senate

Joseph Lieberman -- not a member of the Senante

Arlen Specter -- not a member of the Senate

Eric Cantor -- not a member of the House

Barney Frank -- not a member of the House

Gabrielle Giffords -- not a member of the House

Anthony Weiner -- not a member of the House

I'm sure there are other fails in your list but those are some of the ones that jump out at me immediately.

Oh, I see that you are using a highly up-to-date blog post from 2010 for your "research".

But don't worry, the Black Muslim nationalists hate the Jews too. Maybe you guys can invite each other over for dinner and work out a common front.

tmosley's picture

Don't hate us, goyim! We just view you as our cattle and deeded property, creatures in human form without the rights of man! Just be good little doggies and wag your tails for us!

Anything less is like 6,000,000 Shoahs!

Jstanley011's picture

Surely it's gotta be some form of neurosis, where a story in which the Zios and the Christians and the Masons and the WASPs and the neo-atheists figure not at all, yet that's all the ZH commenters want to rant about.

Imagine being a spouse to one of these dorks.

"Honey, the petunia bush needs trimming."

"I'll tell you what needs trimming is Congress. Do you know how many Jews are in the House and Senate? Russ Feingold, Frank Lautenberg, Joseph Lieberman, Arlen Specter, Eric Cantor, Barney Frank, Gabrielle Giffords, Anthony Weiner..."

All the while the overgrown portions of the petunia bush remain perfectly safe for some period, stretching out into the mists of an unknowable future, far beyond the known lifespan of petunia bushes...

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

Yes, please tell us all about neuroses.  What would Freud prescribe?

Experts on neuroses would be people that have above-average incidence of mental illness, isn't that right?

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

Good work.  Thank you. But... there's a 900 lb question in the room:

These People, a mere 2% of the population, did not take over these positions Mafia or ISIS style.  


I know truth hurts, when the blame is at home.

Kirk2NCC1701's picture

As a former Christian, it pains me to turn the spotlight ('Situational Analysis') on those of my own race and European culture.  It truly does.  But, no person or group can grow and develop, unless they can honestly look at their own mistakes and weaknesses, and have the courage and determination to take corrective action.  This applies most certainly to Modern Christians.  Who worship a Jewish God, BTW.  How ironic is that?  I think it's funny.

This Cleansing or Recalibration might involve looking and challenging the very premises, that we were taught from early on, and look at them in a new light of cultural and religious aggression.

For instance (whether I "believe in the historical Jesus" aside), I do not think that his teachings mean that you should be passive, kind or turn the other cheek all the time.  In his day there was so little kindness and mercy, that (I think) he merely suggested that these gentle & kind responses might be a useful change of tactics and strategy. Don't forget that he got outraged and took violent physical action in the Temple, when he overthrew the Moneychangers' tables (banks). 

For those who simply refuse to be anything but do-gooder Christians, I would offer this suggestion to temper their level of Christian kindness:  Use the RECIPROCITY PRINCIPLE, when dealing with non-Christians, or Christians of unproven character.  

This simply means that instead of engaging or proceeding on Trust, you leave trust out of the equation altogether, and proceed on a set of Principles.  One of them is reciprocal Courtesy and Manners.  Always be civil in your outward bearing.  You don't have to like them at all, to be civil.  After reciprocal Civility, look for a Quid Pro Quo opportunity ("This for that", "value for value" exchange).  For instance, if a group of Muslims wants to immigrate to your country, they have to show good faith by doing the same.  If they want a Mosque, they have to let you build a Church.  If they want to prosyletize, then so should you in their country.  If they want welfare, so should you get it in their country.  Etc, etc.  Anything short of a mutually agreed and balanced Deal, is nothing but a stupid and Treasonous Sellout.  No matter how you 'spin' it with weasel words.

The same could be said about other cultures, races and religions.  Especially among the Jewish community, where they live by a total double standard: They bitch, moan, complain and lobby when they are excluded from a position or power or influence (or they used to, till they took over), but they won't reciprocate.  The fact that they won't reciprocate, is not their fault.  The fault is yours, for deluding yourself that a zebra or crocodile is anything but a zebra or crocodile, and that their fundamental nature will change -- if only you are kind, loving and generous enough, i.e. if you apply enough Cultural Communism that's masquerading as 'Christianity'.  Talk about deluded!

Unless and until Christians "clean house", their continual demise is a foregone conclusion and mathematical certainty. Especially when you add the mass migration of other non-European cultures and races into the mix, who serve to dilute the pool and "run interference" for our Latter Day Rulers.

VWAndy's picture

Yep trust is earned. This idea that they will return any kindness is foolish at best. That faith thing has gotten many good and well meaning folks killed.

fxpmtrader's picture

Absolutely right.

BUT - so it goes since Stonage. Over 10000 years. Nothing changed.
One should ask why. There are anwers.

Possibly the middle class and 70 or 80% of the dumb fucks ARE money changers too. Small und dumb ones - but money changers anyway. Either this way (we promise jobs = money) or that way (we are going to lower taxes = money, healthcare for everybody = money for everybody etc) or buy this (Porsche) and that (nice house) and you are gonna be way way smarter. In the end it all circles down and around money and assets and status and power. Who cares about ethos still - or about honesty or justice or balance? What counts is the month end cheque. Thru out all classes and societies.

In the end - truth is: we ARE (and there is no change in sight and 10000 years of proven history): 99.99% dumb fucks. Since Stonage.

So honestly is it a wonder the 0.01% take matters into their own hands?

Take a herd of animals: there are ALWAYS alpha animals - and the rest running behind the alpha animals trying to copy and outpace them. Lemmings - nothing else.

Nice comment anyway and nevertheless - but built on illusions and visions, wishful thinking - with absolutely NO chance to ever become reality. Proven by 10000 years of history. French revolution so far was the best what was achieved. Was it worth all the blood? Into the face of "how long did it last"?

Wake me up again in 100 million years. But only if humans are replaced by something else. Less greedy, less ignorant.

gizmotron's picture

Freaking tribal conspiracy theorists. I employ a number of Jews. And atheists. And Christians. They are all well compensated. The idea of "evil Jewish intent" is silly, and shows weak and feeble character. Your anger is misplaced. It's not "Jews" -- it's anyone sold out to power, greed, wealth, and cronyism (including Jews). Such corruption is built in to human nature, which is why we need checks and balances that work. Today's checks and balances no longer work. The system has been corrupted. It's not a Jewish problem. It's a human nature problem.

Who was that masked man's picture
   Geography:    Israel is only 1/6 of 1% of the land mass of the Middle East .   Israel is roughly half the size of Lake Michigan .   The Sea of Galilee , at 695 ft. below sea level, is the lowest freshwater lake in the world.   The Dead Sea is the lowest surface point on earth, at about 1,373 feet below sea level.     Israel is the only nation in the world that entered the 21st century with a net gain in its number of trees.   Jericho is the oldest continuously inhabited town in the world.   The Mount of Olives in Jerusalem is the oldest, continually used cemetery in the world.   Demographics:   Israel 's population is half the size of Metro New York City.   Israel has only 2% of the population of the Middle East .   Israel has the highest ratio of university degrees per capita in the world.   Israel produces more scientific papers per capita than any other nation in the world - by a large margin.   Israel has the highest number of scientists and technicians per capita in the world - by a large margin.   Israel has the highest number of engineers per capita in the world.   Israel has the highest number of PhD's per capita in the world.   Israel has the highest number of physicians per capita in the world.   Israel has the largest percentage of its workforce employed in technical professions in the world.   Israel is the largest immigrant-absorbing nation in the world, per capita.   Israel is the only country in the Middle East where the Christian population has grown over the last 50 years.   Israel is the only country in the Middle East where Christians, Muslims and Jews are all free to vote.   Israel is the only country in the Middle East where women enjoy full political rights.   Economics:   Israel has the largest number of startup companies per capita in the world.   Israel is the world's largest wholesale diamond center, finally surpassing Antwerp in the 1970's.   Most of the cut & polished diamonds in the world come from Israel .   Israel has the largest number of NASDAQ listed companies outside of the US and Canada .   Israel was the first country to have a free trade agreement with the United States .   Apart from the Silicon Valley, Israel has the highest concentration of hi-tech companies in the world.   The cell phone was developed in Israel at Motorola's largest development center.   The Voice Mail technology was developed in Israel .   In the early 80’s, IBM chose an Israeli-designed computer chip as the brains for its first personal computers.   The first anti-virus software for computers was developed in Israel in 1979.   Most of the Windows NT and XP operating systems were developed in Israel by Microsoft.   Both the Pentium-4 and Centrino processors were entirely designed, developed and produced in Israel .   The Pentium MMX Chip technology was designed in Israel at Intel.   Israel has the highest number of home computers per capita in the world.   The technology for the AOL Instant Messenger and ICQ was developed in 1996 by 4 young Israelis. Israel was the first Middle Eastern country to launch a satellite, the Ofek 1, on September 19, 1988.   Culture:   Hebrew is the only case of a dead national language being revived in all of world history.   Hebrew had not been spoken as a native tongue by anyone for centuries. Today it is the native tongue of millions of people.   Israel has more museums per capita than any other nation in the world.   Israel has more orchestras per capita than any other nation in the world.   Israel publishes more books per capita than any other nation in the world.   Israel publishes more books translated from other languages than any other nation in the world.   Israel reads more books per capita than any other nation in the world.   The most independent and free Arabic press in the Middle East is in Israel .   Military/Security:   Israel has the largest fleet of F-16 aircraft outside of the US .   Israel has the world's most impenetrable airline security.   Israel spends more money per capita on its own protection than any country in the world.   Other:   Israel 's dairy cows are the most productive dairy cows in the world.   They average 25,432 pounds of milk per cow per year, compared to just 18,747 pounds from American cows; 17,085 from Canadian cows; 13,778 from European Union cows; 10,207 from Australian cows; and 6,600 from Chinese cows. Israel has more in-vitro fertilization per capita than anywhere in the world, and it's free. Israelis, per capita, are the world's biggest consumers of fruits and vegetables.   Of the 175 UN Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel .   Of the 690 UN General Assembly resolutions voted on after 1990, 429 were directed against Israel .  


nosam's picture

This is Hasbara propoganda. Israel is one of the most racist countries in the world and the source of pretty much all the strife in the ME. Any advanced technology it has is given to it by US traitors. In addition, for some reason it receives massive amounts of aid from the US. If Israel is so great as described above, why does it receive aid?

7againstThebes's picture

Yes, the Israelis are successful, so let's stop sending them billions of dollars per year.

(((I wonder how many days they would last.)))