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Democratic Senator Calls For Extra Tax To Fund "War" Against ISIS
If you’re already furious about the fact that Washington’s efforts to destabilize the government of Bashar al-Assad in Syria have resulted in a five-year conflict that’s cost hundreds of thousands of innocent lives and triggered the worst refugee crisis in European history, prepare yourself, because you’re about to become even more furious.
On Sunday, in an Op-ed for the The Philadelphia Inquirer, Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.) proposed a war surtax to pay for the fight against ISIS which is costing US taxpayers some $11 million every 24 hours. Below, find the full piece followed by some commentary.
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"If We Must Fight, We Must Pay", by Chris Coons as originally published in The Philadelphia Inquirer
America is at war with the Islamic State, but we are failing to confront the cost of this war.
Deployments of American special operations forces to Syria and Iraq in recent months have rightly revived calls for Congress to pass a new Authorization for the Use of Military Force against ISIS. A war worth fighting is a war worth debating, authorizing, and funding, so Congress should consider the proper scope and strategy of the mission, vote to authorize that strategy, and find a way to pay for the conflict.
There is little precedent in pre-9/11 American history for charging into war without finding a way to pay for it. From the War of 1812, for which Congress approved new taxes in three consecutive years, to the Gulf War, Congress took steps to pay for every major conflict.
Yet, Congress has failed to offset the cost of the post-9/11 wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Office of Management and Budget estimated in 2002 that the Iraq war would cost $50 billion to $60 billion. The real cost: $1.64 trillion, plus an additional $715 billion for the war in Afghanistan.
Those totals don't even incorporate the large and steadily growing costs of long-term care for our injured veterans and military replenishment. A 2013 Harvard study that includes these factors suggests these wars will cost as much as $6 trillion.
As we pursue our goal of "degrading and destroying" ISIS, we cannot write another blank check for war. As of Nov. 30, the United States had already spent nearly $5.4 billion since U.S. airstrikes against ISIS began in August 2014. That's $11 million every day.
Paying for the wars we fight is a matter of congressional responsibility and national security. A large national debt weakens our ability to respond to global threats, undermines our fiscal position, and limits our diplomatic flexibility. Congress must not disadvantage future generations because we are too timid and irresponsible to make tough choices. The American people sent my colleagues and me to Washington to make hard decisions - not to avoid them.
When we pay for our wars with a credit card, and when the pain of war is felt only by our troops and their families, it is far too easy for our nation's leaders to send soldiers into harm's way without a national conversation about the merits of our involvement, and far too easy for those conflicts to drag on. A proper national debate of the anti-ISIS conflict will demand that Congress and the American people better understand the human cost of the war, too.
Paying for war is also morally responsible. Though fewer than one percent of Americans served in Iraq and Afghanistan, we should only go to war as a nation. If ISIS is a threat that requires a military response, as I believe it is, as Americans we must ask how we can make sure that our servicemen and -women on the battlefield have everything they need to defeat ISIS.
If we are asking our troops and their families to sacrifice, we all should give something to that effort. One way to offset rising costs while allowing all Americans to contribute is a temporary war surtax that includes an exemption for our troops and their families. In March, I introduced a federal budget amendment that would impose a temporary surtax to pay for our military operations against ISIS. When the Senate reconvenes in 2016, I again plan to explore this option.
In 1961, during his farewell address to the nation, President Dwight Eisenhower said the United States "could choke itself to death piling up military expenditures, just as surely as it can defeat itself by not paying enough for protection."
More than half a century later, Eisenhower's words still ring true. We must be relentless in our military campaign against ISIS. Yet we must also heed his warning and pay for the wars necessary to keep us safe.
We should not declare war today only to declare bankruptcy tomorrow. Paying for the wars we fight is our obligation not only to our service members and their families, but to future generations of Americans whose safety and security depend on it.
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While we certainly agree with the notion that the US can't simply put everything on Uncle Sam's "credit card", and while we'll be the first to throw our support behind sound money and fiscal rectitude (well, unless you mean the type of fiscal rectitude which results in "fauxterity", i.e. rising debt but concomitantly rising unemployment as has unfolded across the EU periphery), Cook seems to be completely oblivious to the fact that he's asking the American people to pay so that the US can continue to arm and fund rebels in Syria.
That is, Cook wants you to pay for the effort to destabilize Assad, and, as those who frequent these pages are no doubt aware, that's tantamount to asking you to pay for the promotion of Sunni extremism in Syria. In short: Cook is actually asking for a pro-extremist surtax on the American people.
Quick, someone call Tulsi Gabbard...
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Here endeth your career, Coons. The public knows more about the origins of this endless "war on an emotion" than you do.
Can I just send mine to Putin instead? He's much better at this.
Well, who would think of that?
A real perpetuum mobile.
"Is temporary tax."
Translation = "Is permanent tax and increasing annually."
Just as temporary as our perpetual wars.
Wasn't income tax brought in as a temporary measure for WWI? You know, the War to End all Wars?
Oh yeah, that was in "my home and native land" of Canada.
Income Tax is optional.
-The IRS
Ok you can tax us, but there is on one condition. Congress should have to actually DECLARE WAR on 'ISIS'.
How about we just get the hell out of the Middle East and let them be, for a change. Oh, and by the way, Syria doesn't want us there. We are uninvited party crashers.
How many times do I have to say this?: They're not "Democratic." They're "Democrat(s)." Big difference.
Nothing as permanent as a temporary tax .... just ask the Germans who are still paying a 'temporary tax" on Champagne to pay for WW-I battleships.
Why not simply close ISIS' bank accounts and tell Turkey and Saudi Arabia to stop nurture them? Or send John McCain in a Turkish F-16 over to North Syria - just to see if those S-400 are already operational?
Better yet, why not put it up for a popular vote in the next election cycle...
Matter-of-fact, we should do that with ALL taxation, as the cocksuckers up in Yankton do not represent us in any way, shape, or form.
Congress should fuckin' go there, and make sure their kids go too
Fight?
How about fund.
War Tax? WHAT WAR? When did congress declare war? Only they have the power to do so.
My question is, does ISIS have an income tax they charge their 'citizens'?
Where do they get their money? How do they fund THEIR half of the war? Just axin' (because I have a purdy good idea already of where their funding comes from).
ISIS money comes from the CIA through black operations, oil, drugs, slave trade etc.
So funding and then fighting ISIS is expensive? Huh. Who coulda knowed. Expensive for taxpayers, profitable for the Military Industrial Complex?
My thoughts exactly.
When people found themselves subject to a temple tax, even after the said temple had fallen down, they asked Jesus for guidance.
He came up with his "give unto Caesar what is Caesar's" line, and he was fucken wrong.
And that temple tax probably still exists.
If Caesar wants some silver, he can fucken earn it.
So can Coons.
A 'temporary tax' for the war AGAINST Isis, or a 'temporary tax' for FUNDING Isis?
Here's a thought Mr. Congressman (D-ouchebag): Bring ALL the troopz home, Russia and Iran are doing a bang-up job, especially when there's no interference from USA/Turkey/Israel/Saudi, etc!
Nice, another pandering cocksucker that does not feel bound by the constitution.
Is this going to be another direct, unapportioned tax? Excise? Excise with exemptions for some? Got it.
Coons, DIAF you cocksucker.
You want to pay for more war, go right ahead.
I sure as fuck didn't ask for you assholes to kill people in my name.
pods
Time to fire up a Kickstart campaign to buy this dick head an ACH with huge American flag cover, a rifle, no ammo, a one way ticket to the Middle East.
And some zip ties to make sure he don't leave his seat until his flight touches down somewhere nice, like Damascus, Mosul, or Ramadi.
I DON'T MIND PAYING A TAX THATAWAY.
kickstarter? I'll throw in a few hundred to prime the pump! :D
No, a KickEnder.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/07/04/ethics-questions-for-unsch...
We could just stay out of Russia's way, let them take care of ISIS, and not spend the money. But we know controlling the region is the number one priority followed closely by the need for insatiable military spending and debt creation. What seems insane to us makes others extremely rich.
I think most of the posters so far are missing the point. Chris Coons introduced the same basic bill in March, and it was voted down. The idea is to wake up the public to the fact that this bullshit is open-ended and needs to stop. If the general population is so complacent about piling on evermore debt for their children, they (we) need to be collectively bitch-slapped out of our stupor. Pass a war tax, and we would get out of there PDQ once the Congress critters started getting blasted by a newly aware constituency.
If I were in Congress, I would take it even further and push for a return of the draft. Coons is 100% correct. If we are going to fight, bleed, and die for the greater good, then everybody needs to put skin in the game. Had there been a mercenary army during the Vietnam war, we may still be there. If not enough Americans want to participate with blood & treasure, then let's get the hell out ASAP. We know the MIC and the Bankers who own virtually all of Congress want to go quietly along draining the Treasury with ever more war - and they will, unless enough voters tell Congress to stop it. That won't happen on the current trajectory of the average American shitizen. Reach into their pocketbooks and grab some money, then pick a few sons from their family tree and see if folks won't finally wake up and force an end to the madness.
While I mostly agree, don't see it as a fiat issue per se. Dollar hedgemony means deep-state dominance. They don't NEED our taxdollars to make war. They DO need our PARTICIPATION. The only way to perpetuate a LIE is to have willing receptors. Those who actively and passively participate in the system of lies. It's easy to believe in lies if they don't inconvenience the receptor. Or enrich them. But tax someone EXTRA or put them or their loved ones in harms way -- that's a pretty significant "inconvenience". And the receptors start questioning the VERACITY of that which forms the basis of those decisions. And will begin to withdraw participation. Stop "buying it". Then the inventory of LIES is worthless. Like the fiat its based upon.
Every time one hears a politician pushing inceased taxes or a draft -- just know that person "gets-it". Not saying they aren't shit-heads. But they're on the right side of waking-up the sheeple.
Find it really odd this concept needs explaining here...Sigh.
OTOH, he could introduce a bill to shut down ALL foreign US bases!
And he could paint a fucking target on his back too. But he won't. Neither will you. Nor will I.
Agreed, pay the man that can do and has done a stellar job. Remember Obama's shovel ready job disaster?
Obama's always got his shovel ready . . . and we know what he's shoveling.
IT'S OVER 100 ISIS SOLDIERS!!!
America needs to send everything it's got and maybe after a decade they negotiate a ceasefire...
OR
Send the Russians to do it in 1 week...
OR
Send the boyscouts and they'll do it in 2 weeks... but they'll need permission slips from their parents....
It's a total faillure of strategic command of the Americans and just more money won't solve their problem.
Of course it won't solve the problem.
The only way to solve the problem is to wake up the general population. Sometime, you just have to give a mule a good whack upside the head with a 2x4 to get his attention, and make him do what he is supposed to be doing. Americans are supposed to be paying attention to what is being done in our name, but we have not done our job. Way past time we got slapped out of our collective stupor.
In Delaware, Coons only needs to be a Dem. We don't even try here.
Just have the FED print the money.
I am not sure I get the outrage. If the idiot herd actually realized you have to pay to play for these interventionist clusterfucks that we propagate, they may actually pull their heads out of the sand. The borrow and spend economics of the one-party should be the outrage. Perpetual money printing for perpetual war. Never mind ~ it would mean stopping the magical thinking, ain't going to happen until the Soma in all it's forms is gone.
Bingo. Kinda interesting people (here) don't get the point. Guys like Coons know they'll wind-up with a nail-gun in their hand if they try to confront deep-state head-on. SO -- they're hoping to wake-up citizens by threatening their wallets. Because Americans lost every scintilla of moral sanity. Nor care one whit about the Constitution. But tell us we'll be taxed extra-extra for MOAR war. And watch 'em WAKE UP and cunt-punt the fuckers responsible for this shit. If they use black-ops profits (from drugs and stolen oil) to finance more war, most US citizens won't give a fuck who's doing what, where. Generational floride works wonders.
Either people on ZeroHedge are REALLY obtuse -- OR -- disinformation trolls abound. Hope its the latter. Fear its the former.
110%
Far too many mental midgets have invaded this space, brining a knowledge base about the size of a bumper sticker.
Then, on the other hand, we have our share of trolls, too, and they seem to be multiplying, hijacking threads and spewing immature garbage.
Don't mind bumper stickers. If they're clever. When one does ones OWN thinking. One sees patterns not recognized by the herd.
I believe in redemption. A guy like Coons -- who may be co-opted and compromised and a total shit-head -- can CHOOSE to act from integrity. And while Obama is co-opted and compromised -- he's also kept US troops out of Syria. Lots of evil shit is going-down. But Obama manages to avoid carrying ALL the neocon water. Was it planned as such? Who knows. But the pattern's been interesting. ikewise.
ack
OR,
maybe you are obtuse.
Coons stated:
"If ISIS is a threat that requires a military response, as I believe it is, as Americans we must ask how we can make sure that our servicemen and -women on the battlefield have everything they need to defeat ISIS."
Coons is NOT trying to 'wake up' citizens to the criminal endless war.
Rather, he is attempting to guilt trip citizens into accepting sacrifices to 'support the troops' as well as to lay blame for any military 'failures' on lack of "shared sacrifice".
He is also sending a trial balloon to test justifying the coming austerity on 'war needs'.
Re-read his statement. Think more deeply.
He is a PRO-war propagandist.
He clearly does not oppose the global US crusade.
Don't give a shit about Coons. Stopped voting AGES ago. But if one were to attempt to WAKE UP the population. Do something to GRAB their attention.
Few Americans paid attention to Iraq War -- other than shock+awe porn. Unless you had family-friends in military. It barely touched 80%+ of the population. What did GWB tell us??? Go shopping! So maybe. Just maybe. If they threaten to tax us. Or DRAFT us. (ladies first!) Then perhaps the population wakes-up.
Look. IDK Coon. Nor his intensions. They're ALL co-opted. And compromised. To some extent. Then again. SO ARE WE ALL. This happened on OUR watch. We participate. WE CHOOSE.
If I were Coons. And wanted to shut it down. Without LOOKING as if I were doing so. I say what he's saying. Just saying...
The outrage is that The Coon has probably supported trillions in other programs without worrying about how to pay for them.
And instead of a new tax, why not cut some spending to pay for it? Oh, can't have that now, can we?
and the further outrage is that many
especially the Democrat faithful,
will insist that Obama, Hillary, and other Democrats
are antiwar deep down,
and their leaders' support for militarism and warfare
must somehow be a clever and expedient anti-war ruse.
Exactamundo !! or that the the Republican mainstream stands for fiscal responsibility, and all that jazz.
"If we are asking our troops and their families to sacrifice, we all should give something to that effort"
Hey dickhead, I'm not asking YOUR troops to do anything but get the hell out of the middle east. Don't lump me in with the neoconartists who want perpetual war.
You may not like it, but if you are an American, they ARE your troops.....and your tax dollars are paying for them, as will your children, grand children and all of your spawn on into eternity.
Do you not grasp that we most certainly WILL have perpetual war unless the general population wakes up and demands it to end? Little drive-by, smart-assed, know-nothing comments like yours may make you feel good, but you are just pissing in the wind.
That would be the same as funding a war against Langley.
Please, it is well established that America and its allies founded and funded ISIS and still fund it today:
ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html
USA, Turkey and Israel Act As Air Force for ISIS
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/08/usa-turkey-and-israel-act-as-air-...
The US arming of ISIS
While claiming to be committed to a war against ISIS, Washington and its regional allies have time and again proven themselves to be its principal sources of strength.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/03/pers-j03.html
Poll shows 81 percent of Syrians believe US created ISIS
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-19/81-syrians-believe-us-blame-isi...
The Office of Management and Budget estimated in 2002 that the Iraq war would cost $50 billion to $60 billion. The real cost: $1.64 trillion, plus an additional $715 billion for the war in Afghanistan.
OMB projections are wrong. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will cost more than $6000 billion compared to $738 billion for the Vietnam war in 2011 dollars. The Vietnam war forced the US to go off the gold standard on August 15, 1971.
The decade-long American wars in Afghanistan and Iraq would end up costing as much as $6 trillion, the equivalent of $75,000 for every American household, calculates the prestigious Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government.
And if suggested ISIS funding to cut, US Senator not possible to understand.
Words told to US Senator, US Representative and includes "funding cut" might as well speaking the language Papuans.
JO, I agree with you that ISIS is our toy, but with one caveat.
It may be "well established that America and its allies founded and funded ISIS and still fund it today" for those on this board. However, try explaining that to your average American. It is a long way from well established in the general population, and not a word of such in the MSM.
A white Senator from Delaware named "Coons"?
WTF?
He faked out his constituants.
Delaware politics is a running sewer of one party rule and has been for a long time. It borders PA, NJ and MD so they all compete to see how they can outdo each other with blatant corruption. As Dr. Venkman correctly stated above, Delaware doesn't even try anymore.
I think they gave up a long time ago. See Senator Joe Biden.
How lucky for us all that the world is so organized as to present evidence of our lack of its grasp at intervals proportional to the lack.
I'm all up for a tax to shut down big government.
Yes cause after all we have so much extra to give....Drope dead stupid cunt.
yeah that will pass in an election year. Borrow to the moon!
We fund/Arm ISIS and this Dork want's a Temporary Tax to help defeat ISIS. The United States Government is one french fry short of a Happy Meal. This idiot, no doubt elected by idiots, belongs on Tales from the Dark Side.
Hmmm... let's cut taxes and pocket the money they were sending to ISIS. And let's get our service people out of harms way where we don't belong. And let's make Obama pay for his own vacations and golf expeditions.
Well Senator, if we need to pay for our war on ISIS I will only agree to go with Plan N and drop 1 nuclear bomb on the region. From a cost benefit point of view it is the best option.
I think we should put a 100 percent surtax on "campaign contributions" to US Senators, regardless of source.
You're misunderstanding him, and getting it the wrong way round. This is an anti-borrowing move, not a pro-war move. What he's after (odds on success nil) is to get Congress away from putting the cost of foreign adventures on the credit card. Too easy to say OK if it's 'free'.
No matter what his motives, the deficit will still go up no matter whether deficit funds are spent on this or not.
So you pay for war with taxes, well that means less to this or that. And that has to be made up with deficit funds.
pods
So Woopee, Pods. Let's all be in favor of perpetual war...just as long as we never have to make any sacrifice.
Bring back the draft and watch this shit evaporate.
Any tax that helps defense contractors stop global warming and save women and children while establishing a new voting bloc for Democratic candidates so they can further help minorities and their inner city plight is ok by me!! /s
press 1 to pay your obama care fine
press 2 to pay your war party dues
press 3 to vote for hilllary(D)
press 4 for all of the above
"If We Must Fight, We Must Pay"
"If you don't first establish the premise, I won't blindly follow the conclusion."
If we are asking our troops and their families to sacrifice,
We dont have a draft. They are all volunteer.
EDIT: and "volunteer" is not the right word. They are getting paid and entered into the agreement of their own free will.
Yep. Our military is filled with multi-generational military people from families who have not done anything outside the military for generations. The rest of those who are not legacies come from places where joining the military is the only way out of Shitsville nowhere and the poverty that comes with it, both economically and intellectually. Or they are seeking free/cheaper college.
Plus, we have all these glamorized movies and TeeVee commercials about how cool it is to go places and kill strangers 'cause they hate out freedoms. This culture deserves every ounce of the shit storm ahead. If it took out only the truly deserving scumbags, but it won't.
Which is exactly why I beat the drum for a draft. A standing mercenary army is 100% opposite of what the founding fathers envisioned for this country. A draft means there better be a real threat, else the draftees rebell.
Does the phrase "hell no, we won't go" bring back any memories?
"And it's one, two, three, what're we fighin' for?"
It'll be just as temporary as the long distance phone call tax enacted during the Spanish-American War.
Don't we have enough taxes?
They keep adding more and more fees and taxes to enrich themselves.
These clowns have no problem voting themselves a raise.
What did you expect? Those darn Russkies are cutting off the flow of oil revenue to ISIS - so how else can the CIA keep paying for all those condoms the ISIS troops use each day?
He is farther left than Obama. I guess he is gearing up for the next dope and Chains election
sooooo, let me get this straight. the U.S. government took in more in tax reciepts in 2015 (so far) than in 2014 (which was a record year) and we have a senator begging for more $$$ in order to "keep the country safe". i thought the primary issues of government was 1. defend the country 2. infrastructure. if thats the case, why the fuck are not all things regarding the military (ie. defending the country) and roads/bridges/tunnels the first things accounted for & prioritized above all others. oh, thats right, because those are things considered "a given" by the voters they have to promise extra free shit to in-order to secure their vote. i also seem to remember $1 trillion 'stimulus package' that evaporated into thin air. we don't even talk about how that went to lining union pockets for a few years. that amount could have paved every bridge, tunnel, parkway, highway, driveway, sidewalk, and basketball court in the country. im in NJ and travel to NY and philadelphia often ... if i blindfolded you and took u in my car the last 1-2 months and then did the same thing in downtown beirut, you would not know the difference - THAT is how bad the friggin roads are around here.
i have been so fucking sickened by this process & election cycle. these guys are nothing more than a bunch of walkers from the living dead; once they're done eating ALL the fresh meat, they'll eat each other just in order to 'survive'. someone, somewhere has got to develop an algorithm to replace ALL these clowns, default on the debt, reduce taxes to the bare minimum, and allocate whatever MINIMAL tax revenues to BARE ESSENTIALS (ie. NATIONAL DEFENSE - not to be confused with INTERNATIONAL OFFENSE and infrastructure).
sigh ... indeed
Has it yet occured to all the Muslim-haters out there that 'Muslim Terrorism' was CIA-Mossad False Flags at varying distances of control?
That the problem has been Israeli-Neocons all along, as we have <expressions of extreme annoyance> been telling you forever? Dammit?
And it isn't the blacks in the inner cities, they are fellows-in-serfdom, just a different set of chains. Yep, their culture has been channeled, so has ours, as so very many commentators have claimed and stated and studied.
It is quite illogical to understand that our culture has been affected outside of our knowledge and control, and to then go on and depend on it for anything but working your way back through your assumptions, starting all over with what you know and whom you can trust in your own family and community.
It just isn't the world we thought it was.
"Israeli-Neocons against all of humanity" is too simple, but clearly organizes the interests at stake and resources at hand. Too bad for them, they have money, we have people. Soon, they will have no money, and many fewer people, if they don't run fast.
I predict that 2016 is the year you begin seeing Dual-US-Israeli citizens moving back to Israel, it ain't easy pickings here any longer.
Well said. RE-ELECT NO ONE -- GO TRUMP!
"Temporary tax" just like being "partially dead" I suppose.
or "kinda pregnant"
Right, because the military-surveillance, deep government/shadow government doesn't have enough money ALREADY. They need more, more more!!! And, be scared. Live in fear. I am so tired of this crap.
How about every time congress comes up with a war for our kids to fight each congressman or woman has to do a 6 month tour on the front lines. If they don't want to do that then we hang the mother fuckers. Obama and George W Bush pissed away the lives of thousands of our finest young men and women that we needed a hell of a lot more than we need these fucking warmongering politicians.
Dear Coons,
I know you are reading this. I want to shit in your mouth. That is all.
He's on to something!! But rather than pay for it, let's bring our troops home and see if outsorcing it to the Russians is cheaper. Yes, I know I'm all for sending more jobs offshore.
I really like your idea!
Since the US/CIA/Military can't fight ISIS let's pull all US forces out of the MENA and cover the Russian costs to clean up the mess.
Fuck You Coon Prick
How are senators impeached?
Dunno above senators but Trafficant talked about isisrael and they destroyed him, then killed him.
http://youtu.be/lmOWLBDyP2c
I remember Traficant ranting about how the us government was bankrupt and having dennie hastert the boy raper shout and gavel him to shut up before his impeachment.
No one but traitors in .gov anymore.
With a deep lead deficiency.
nuke 'em from orbit, just to be sure...
I'm willing to put my woodworking skillz to use, building a Guillotine...
Government: Because the oligarchy needs multiple wealth transfer systems organized and policed.
- IRS and countless other taxes
- our fiat currency system
- climate change used as a justification for multiple layers of wealth transfer and population control (survellance/smart-grid/smart-appliance; confined space living)
- Obamacare subsidization of the medical industrical complex
- empire provision and maintenance via the military industrial complex
And on and on and on.........
The corporations that profit from the wars should pay for waging their wars.
The corporations that profit from the wars should pay for all of the care that the veterans ever require.
What's next? An Obama back 9 tax? A Hilary Clinton Benghazi investigation tax? A banker bailout tax?
Like all democrat liberal morons, they give no thought to cutting the budget. Like all liberal morons their only thought process is 'how can I steal more money from someone else, preferably the middle class'.
Go fuck yourself Coon.
What a stupid motherfucker Chris Cons...errrr....Coons is. Another stupid shitbag who wants another asinine tax.
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"“Turkey is training Islamic State terrorists in a camp disguised as a training ground for the Free Syrian Army, a 20-year-old jihadist captured by the Kurdish YPG told Sputnik.”
This is not far-fetched at all. Listen to this:
“An ISIS commander was killed in Salahuddin province and his body was searched. A cell phone retrieved from the corpse revealed messages from Turkish intelligence services proving the NATO country was providing security for ISIS militants when they traveled between Turkey and Iraq. This is the second NATO country implicated in assisting ISIS troops. The first was Canada.
“The IS commander was killed by Hashd al-Shaabi, a loyalist volunteer force. Jabbar al-Ma’mouri, a leader within the force made the announcement. He said, ‘The mobile phone also contains other important information which cannot be disclosed now, and it has been delivered to the specialized security groups for further scrutiny…’
“While the western media seems to be overlooking and downplaying NATO support for the Islamic State, some senior US officials are speaking out. Former US Department of State senior adviser David Phillips said, ‘Turkey’s role has not been ambiguous — it has overtly supported the ISIL. It has provided logistical support, money, weapons, transport and healthcare to wounded warriors.’”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/12/28/erdogan-and-nato-are-really-crew...
Why does the 'state' of Delaware even get a full Senator? With a population smaller than most big cities, they should only get to provide commentary and not be able to really vote on or propose anything.
Load these Congress/Senate Scum onto Air force 1+2+3 alongside Barry, if you can drag that bitch away from the golf course and Parachute them into Mosul with their families.
These stupid Libertards need Dick Cheney to explain how wars fund themselves just like the war in Iraq did
You know 'Naur', you have been making that same dumb statement in theme and variations for some time, and I remember because it annoys me.
You, or some bot just like you.
This is not a place for simple minds making simple claims of ignorant type. Your software needs upgrade.
Demdere , seems everyone or at least many are retarded here, in your opinion. How does it feel to be so smart?
Tell me what you do and we'll exchange anecdotes.
Load these Congress/Senate Scum onto Air force 1=2=3 alongside Barry, if you can drag that bitch away from the golf course and Parachute them into Mosul with their families.
Terrible waste of parachutes. Just throw their asses out of the plane.
Bastiat- precious bodily fluids?
Those get delivered with an altogether different tool -- no shovel needed.
Typical government- create a problem, then propose to fix it (with your money of course)
they've learned that tactic from their largest political donors in big pharma
ask this Senator how they funded Obamacare.......
Obamacare was projected to pay for itself -
How great of a fool did you need to be to believe that when the thing was passed into law?
Bush & Cheney said the Iraq invasion would pay for itself.
Eighty five billion and it would be paid for by their oil. Remember that?
why dont we just take it out of the foreign aid we send to turkey and israel ?
fucking morons
That's rich! ISIS was created and is supported by US taxpayer dollars and this idiot wants tax dollars to "fight" ISIS too.
Let Senators send their own children and grandchildren to the Middle East to fight.
Bend over America. Mr. Coons wants to get behind your fiscal rectitude.
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Shove it Chris Coons. just shove it.
Not NO but FUCK YOU.
The tax is okay with me, as I won't pay it anyway. ISIL is a US government-created threat and is supported at least indirectly by the taxes I pay. The law prohibits me from sending money to support terrorism, and I definitely don't want to break the law.
The probably want to put a special tax on guns and ammo....or I should say the guns and ammo that might still be allowed.
"If We Must Fight, We Must Pay", by Chris Coons
"If *I* must fight, *I* must pay", by Chris Coons
There fixed it for you, esteemed senator douche nozzle. Your war, you pay for it, bitch. And while you are at it, send your own family off to some third world toilet to die, not mine.
I am so done with all you Washington fucktards, as are an ever increasing number of the American populace, which you are completely unaware of, as you have your head so far up your ass, you might as well be living on Mars.
Enjoy it while you can douchebags, we will be coming for all of you sooner rather than later...
Why not just trade paychecks for food, water, shelter, clothing and healthcare? Oh and war against ourselves since ISIS is a Langley, VA creation, a monster at that.
This is the result of our ISIS creation; be sure to scroll down and click on the pics of the dead children. BTW - that missionary is a 7th degree blackbelt and former US Marine that brings the love of Christ to a dying world on the front lines.
http://victormarx.com/high-risk-missions/ (scroll down and see what the US creation called ISIS does, which you will not find on MSM.)
Listen for 20 minutes to what this person is doing to make a difference that we can all be part of in our own spaces; pursue peace and remember the following:
For it was You who created my inward parts; You knit me together in my mother's womb. I will praise You, because I have been remarkably and wonderfully made. Your works are wonderful, and I know this very well. My bones were not hidden from You when I was made in secret, when I was formed in the depths of the earth." - Psalm 139
When the LORD made each of you; He broke the mold, for each of you are unique and wonderfully made. You did not evolve from a monkey.
http://drjamesdobson.org/Broadcasts/Broadcast?i=7638932f-78fb-42d9-b2e9-...
please tax my brains out!!! take my children to war and return them in handy recyclable boxes!
this countries politcal class is fuckin insane!
I bet those newly ex Dupont/Dow folks sure are happy to hear this from their own
The initial quote should have been:
If we must fight then we must borrow...taxation only draws attention...the masses might actually begin to pay attention and attention is bad.
Let the people idle their time away in dreams of sweet entitlement. Taxation would disturb that wondeful slumber.
The latest ISIS propaganda scam from Obama and the CIA - a new narrative is needed!
https://www.rt.com/usa/327309-pentagon-obama-isis-narrative/
RT = always gives you the real story about there enemy. I listen to it for grins just like Faux Nooze. I'm surprised RT doesn't give them a free spot in the rotation.
Ah, Radio Free Europe is the only way to go, or NPR. Nothing like US tax payers, paying for corporate and zionist propaganda.
RT can do as it wishes, my tax dollars don't go to pay for it.
But I might remind you, Mr Zionist, that RT had it right about Russia, hitting ISIS while US media was caught flat footed, not knowing how to cover the bombing of ISIS as another hit piece against Putin.
How about the issue in Ukraine, is that still a coup of the people, or did George Soros actually have a hand in it, like RT reported.
Is Syria a "civil-war", or is it foreign mercenaries fighting to unseat another Middle East democratically elected leader....before you answer, check your sources, even today, Western sanctioned polls show most Syrians desire Assad...No matter how much the US Jew "news" tells us otherwise.
Your ilk must really hate RT, even though its soft on the Zionists, still its not under your thumb...
The war was to cover the theft of Wall Street.I stopped believing these guys back
when I read years ago how Northrup built a piece of the B-1 in every state so that
Congress would have to vote against jobs in their district.The Bomber that just would not
die.Odd how the Russkies Lancer,smaller,less payload,shorter range seems to work
quite well in Syria.Probably cost a fraction of what the US taxpayer shelled out.
What was it a year ago? Camp Bastian, Afghanistan,the bad guys creep thru the wire
and destroy seventeen harrier jumpjets for the loss of eight killed?
Lets pull all,repeat all,our troops back.Not our fight.Not for a pipeline.....
My Pop,RIP,said after 9/11,"Just tell them next big one and we make a parking lot
out of something very important to your guys". Right.
I think without big changes in DC policy we will soon see conflict between the military
and the White House.All the dead and wounded fighting for Fallujah and elsewhere.
What for? Why? How can you tell the parents of a dead kid he fought for nothing.
This will destroy America morally if nothing else. Asking for the ultimate sacrifice.....
Patriotic military brass have been purged and been replaced by women and colored transgender political careerists.
Meh, but the time is coming when ALL must choose between doing what is Right, and what is easy!
"If We Must Fight, We Must Pay"
Then, since we are not fighting ISIS then we don't have to pay?
He can take his surcharge tax and stuff it up his you know what.
Fuck the MIC. Cut military spending over 50%!
That 6 trillion doesn't begin to cover the cost of the DHS, which the goal is apparent; make the Homeland less secure and have the people pay to make it that way.
We will never learn because we do not educate ourselves and we are morally bankrupt and that is the ultimate price that we all will pay at the end of life as we currently know and understand it.
Perhaps it would be better to simply seize representatives offshore bank accounts.
First tell Obama to stop funding ISIS and then, and only then, should a fool like you ask for a tax increase.
How about instead, we pull the CIA black-ops funding that created ISIS in the first place?
Time to invite our 'representatives' to a Woodchipper's Ball. Formalwear of orange jumpsuits not optional.
I had earlier proposed a similar tax called a jew tax.
Anyone who is a card carrying zionist or is a proponent of the greater israel mythology should be taxed to pay for all the costs of this insanity. A 50% or more immediate confiscation of all assets.
If the person is a US citizen, they would also be immediately deported for lands controlled by ISIS. As it is said, let them sleep in the bed they have made.
I'm sure most Americans would love to pay another tax, under one condition: every politician is stripped of their pay and benefits.
ISIS is not a threat to me nor to the US, considering it was created by the US. DC can go fuck themselves.
I have an idea, anyone who has dual-citizenship should pay a tax, it might be a way to get our $3 billion a year back from Israel. Washington is awash with those who have dual-citizenship with Israel (and a surprising number of them work in the US government). I am sure they would want to help America, the country they "love", pay for all the wars they keep pushing US into.
It is truly amazing how many citizens of this country have split their loyalties with Israel. Would anyone wonder what nation they put first?
And or all those who are scared to death of "Muslims invading America", the country that destroyed their homes, you would be rather hard pressed to find any Muslims working in the US federal government that shared citizenship with
Finally, anyone wonder how many people work in the Israeli government that have dual-citizenship with the US, lol....
Sure Sen. Coons. I'll pay a tax WHEN you clowns actually DECLARE a war in accordance with the Constitution. Or STFU
Where do they get these idiots from?
Lets get this right ---> a tax on the people to help "fight" a fake enemy, when all they need to do is ramp up the existing backdoor fiat currency printing?....or better yet, steal a few trillion via the Pentagon by putting a weasal jew in charge of the accounting.....oh sh*t, sorry, we've already done that one.
God damn, this article and the dickhead its about, is but a micro-metaphor for the Rubicon nature of US politics.....someone please tell me how its not going to end really really badly for Amerian society in the next several years?
Probably not an idiot. Just looking after his donor base.
Democrats: Tax and spend
Republicans: borrow from their banker friends in the FED and spend (taxpayer must pay the FED back)or else bail them out
either way they BOTH suck money out of you
I think it's a great idea -but to really get a bang for the buck and not waste taxpayers money -send the tax money to Russia. They seem to know how to kill Isis for about a nickel on the dollar compared to what it costs us to do it ourselves. Of course we will also have to pay Russia extra tax money to clean up afterwards- oyu know, to protect the environment.
<-- And the money will be used to pay US def contractors 100x times than normal
As in Afghanistan
So actually these salivating politicians will benefit in the end
If I am not mistaken I do not believe that Congress ever declared a war on IS IS? I'm also thinking that it is Congress that is Constitutionally authorized to declare war and since they have never done so technically the US is not at war? A war tax would only be appropriate in the event of actual war.
Up to now, the US has been involved in limited engagements with no defined objective. If what and who we are fighting is not defined then it is virtually impossible to declare war against it and by extension, tax it specifically.
On the other hand, "some" of our leaders seem hell bent to have some kind of tax for which purpose is to allow "skimming" whether it is called a carbon tax, a war tax, investment tax, savings tax, inheritance tax, world equilibrium tax, gun tax...just something, especially since revenue sources such as stealing Syrian oil and selling it on the black market surely benefits a select few in the US hierarchy but not the public at large.
Taxing a non-existent war would almost be "theft" by any other definition. A tax just for "the principle of it" could be a starter, perhaps the 50% of the American occupiers (not all are citizens) who currently pay 0 tax could chip in just a bit. Congress could halve their benefits, and mega corporations, especially those who offshore their manufacturing could pay an excise tax on their goods. These may be options for generating moar revenue?
As an alternative we could just stop fighting undeclared wars or do as we already do and just print more money. That would be the most simple action.