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Erdogan Says Assad "Mercilessly Killed 400,000 People", Accuses Opposition Of "Treason"
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan is no fan-o’-Kurds, so to speak. Well, unless the Kurds you’re talking about are assisting in a lucrative business that involves the trafficking of illicit crude from Iraq to the port of Ceyhan.
Back in June, AKP lost its absolute majority in parliament after the pro-Kurdish HDP put on a surprisingly strong showing at the ballot box. We won’t recount the entire series of events that unfolded thereafter here as we’ve covered the story extensively, but suffice to say the democratic election outcome wasn’t allowed to stand because it imperiled Erdogan’s bid to transition the country to an executive presidency. In short, Erdogan blamed HDP and took it out on the PKK with whom he reignited a long simmering conflict on the way to scoring a better outcome at redo elections in November.
The opposition in Turkey is acutely aware of the fact that Erdogan is essentially running a thinly disguised autocracy and dissident voices are getting louder even as Ankara tries to suppress them with brutality and threats of imprisonment.
Over the weekend, HDP co-chairman Selahattin Demirtas said that Turkey's largest ethnic minority had to decide whether to live in autonomy or "under one man's tyranny". Needless to say, the “one man” in question wasn’t pleased and on Tuesday the President called the remarks treasonous. On Monday, prosecutors in Diyarbakir and Ankara opened an investigation into six people including Demirtas.
“Where do you get the right to talk about establishing a state in east and southeast regions within Turkey’s unitary structure? Such a thing won’t be allowed by the national will or the security forces,” Erdogan fumed, speaking in Istanbul before flying to Riyadh to discuss Syria and other matters of mutual interest with the Saudis. “These operations will continue until terrorism is completely eradicated in our country,” he continued.
Of course by "the national will," Erdogan means his "will" and by "until terrorism is completely eradicated" he means "until the PKK is completely eradicated."
The Ministry of Justice will likely seek to have Demirtas’ parliamentary immunity lifted so he can be prosecuted. “Kurdish rebels have tried to create de facto autonomous areas in southeast cities, leading to urban warfare with government troops,” Bloomberg notes, adding that “Kurdish political and civil groups met over the weekend in Diyarbakir, where Demirtas called for an end to the fighting and urged a government declaration of Kurdish self-rule, including the establishment of autonomous security and police forces.”
As AFP writes, "the charismatic Demirtas has emerged as Erdogan's key rival over the last year, with many commentators saying he is the only politician to rival the Turkish strongman's rhetorical skills." Erdogan does indeed possess "rhetorical skills" and they were on full display on Tuesday. Here's more from the President's rant against the HDP politician:
"I believe that the treachery network dealing a blow to our country's unity will learn a lesson it deserves from our people and from the law. The will of the people is stronger than arms. They have no faith in the parliament."
Here's a bit more from AFP on the "lesson" being taught in Kurdish towns:
Tensions are running high in Turkey's predominantly Kurdish southeast, which has been rocked by curfews imposed on several towns where the security forces have been battling PKK militants.
A five-year-old boy, named as Huseyin Selcuk, was shot dead this week while playing in the garden at his home in the flashpoint town of Cizre, local media reported.
Last week, a three-month-old baby and her grandfather were killed when they became caught in the crossfire between security forces and Kurdish rebels, again in Cizre. The baby was hit in the head when the family's house was shelled during clashes.
Residents of the towns under curfew are facing food shortages and problems with water and electricity supplies. Many homes have been damaged by shelling.
The HDP claims a total of 129 civilians had been killed in towns under curfew since August 16, and dozens injured.
Recall that we profiled Cizre back in August in "We Have A Civil War": Inside Turkey's Descent Into Political, Social, And Economic Chaos." Here's a bit more color from WSJ:
Turkey’s stepped-up military campaign to crush Kurdish insurgents has reduced some urban neighborhoods in the southeast of the country to battle zones, raising fears the conflict could escalate and spread elsewhere in the country unless peace talks resume.
Since the government declared what it called a “decisive” campaign to end five months of limited violence between Kurds and government security forces, young Kurdish militants in the cities of Diyarbakir, Cizre, Silopi and Nusaybin have been targeted by Turkish tanks, helicopters, artillery and snipers, according to local residents and news reports from the region.
Militants in the mainly Kurdish cities have erected barricades to seal off neighborhoods they’ve declared outside the authority of the Turkish state, and are using AK-47s, rocket launchers and homemade bombs to defend the enclaves, these residents say.
“Things are reaching a critical point, and it’s not clear where things are heading,” said a Western official in Turkey.
The PKK is seeking self-rule areas in Turkish territory for the country’s minority ethnic Kurds and has threatened to escalate violence—even launch an all-out civil war—unless the government ends its efforts to eradicate it.
“If they push the military too far and it carries out a massacre, this will fan the flames,” senior PKK commander Murat Karayilan said in an interview this week with Kurdish media. “In that case, we will take new decisions.”
Of course calling for autonomy might not have been Demirtas' only "crime." "Leaders of Turkey’s legal and avowedly nonviolent Kurdish political parties are seeking support from Russia, which is embroiled in a feud with Ankara over the shootdown of a Russian jet last month along the Turkey-Syria border," WSJ continues. "Selahattin Demirtas, head of the pro-Kurdish Peoples’ Democratic Party, or HDP, held talks in Moscow with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov."
Speaking of Russia, Erdogan also took the opportunity to lash out at Moscow on Tuesday for supporting who Ankara says is a mass murderer. "You cannot go anywhere by supporting a regime that has mercilessly killed 400,000 innocent people with conventional and chemical weapons," Erdogan said, in comments clearly directed at The Kremlin. The President also lambasted "countries" for supporting the Kurdish YPG which, not coincidentally, has proven to be the most effective force fighting Islamic State in Syria with the possible exception of Hezbollah. Erdogan equates the YPG with the PKK. In other words, they're "terrorists," even though they've been fighting "the terrorists" for years.
"This is the time when the masks have been taken off and the real faces exposed," Erdogan concluded.
Indeed.
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Erdogan will end-up like Mussolini – strung-up on the lamppost. ;-)
Looney
Who is Hitler than?
Than what?
Then
Well, 620,000 men were killed in the Cival War. "mercilessly" perhaps not. Needlessly? Absolutely.
I thought it was 6 million.
Some time ago there was a story about Erdogan rescuing someone attempting to commit suicide by jumping from a bridge over the Boshporus. It turns out the so-called jumper was actually a Turkish intelligence office. Check out the photos in the article:
First the feel-good photo-op video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPC9VIEr5M
Now the reality
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/news-front.info/2015/12/28/tureckie-smi-chelovek-kotorogo-spas-erdogan-okazalsya-vysokopostavlennym-agentom-tureckoj-razvedki/
It is so pathetic and laughable.
More seriously, a Syrian journalist attempting to tell the truth about Turkey and Syria was found dead in Turkish town
https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/https/russian.rt.com/article/139258
Edit: Waiting for Reporters Without Borders to condemn this and other suspicious deaths of journalists in Turkey .... crickets.
Plane crash
Boating Accident
well at least erdogan saved a man from arranged suicide
hey why erdogan is not owning a nobel prize?
all big criminals own a nobel prize, its about time
I find it disturbing that anyone believes what this Shyster has to say.
Nailgun
Bingo in a few months Saturn stations right on his Mars square Neptune on his Pisces Sun.
shot in boat, lost at sea.
or
caught gun running via ship.
What happens when Nato has to fight a member of its own clan?
don't use the word "clan" in this context. NATO is an alliance. a military alliance. conceived as a defensive military alliance, for a whole lot of reasons that were valid and still are
so to answer your question, nobody in NATO is going to fight Turkey. there is no reason for such a thing at all. meanwhile, Russia is not going to attack Turkey
Can you say Operation Gladio?
cog, if by the mention of NATO you can only think about the "stay behind" ops, then imho you ought to improve on your knowledge of european affairs
as a reminder, we were, at times, quite sure we would be left - in the case of a Soviet attack or Kremlin-sponsored revolution - alone, here
as a further reminder, historical documents from the Kremlin itself revealed - in part - how many Soviet cells were all over Western Europe
can you say Rote Armee Fraktion? can you say Brigate Rosse? etc.? can you say Soviet-sponsored terrorism?
the concept behind the "stay behind"... still has my support, even with the modern 20/20 hindsight in finding some unsavory elements in them
You are correct in all you say Ghordius. I am not arguing with your facts so much as surprised by your emotional response. Particularly at your declaration you are European, which you make further below.
I guess that makes me North American.
Why would you identify with a mind meme, that of being 'European'? I am not American or North American because to identify as such is to disown Cognitive Dissonance.
I do understand that as Cog living in America I never felt a sense of personal fear because my borders were, and still could, be over run by people who intend to kill me. "Europeans" have felt that fear many times over countless generations. I suspect I will eventually share that fear.
It is difficult putting on your shoes when I don't understand what your shoes are.
I only try, cog, to be factual
and I am not sure why my identification with me being european is strange, except that I faintly nunderstand this word is used on your side of the pond in the "I'm white" context
if it helps, I am a citizen of several european countries. having a pedigree that goes back a dozen of centuries, I am aware of parts of our history unlike many others
my shoes? I was targeted several times by terrorists in my life. and once kidnapped... as a teenager. do I hate communists (and other) because of that? no. but I did fight them... not only because they found I was a worthwhile target in their eyes
a fate and threat I shared for a long time with several other members of a (mostly once) military caste called summarily "aristocracy". I was one of the lucky ones, and many around me were less so
note that I had no choice in disowning my roots. note that in my case, wealth was not in any way a criteria, I was broke then and twice since then
You are right: Nato is not a clan. It is a supranational terrorist organisation beyond any control. It can be regarded as the military branch of the angloimperialist oligarchy (the other branch is the bretton woods institutions).
Nato has as much in common with "human rights", "defence" or "Democracy" as Post-maidan Ukraine with Prosperity or Saudi-Arabia with LGBT-agenda compliance.
what a huge load of bollocks, giovanni. how can a military alliance be a supranational organization "beyond any control"?
either the ships sail and fight... or they don't. either the military units march and fight... or they don't
when Bush wanted to invade Iraq, for example... not all of them did sail, march and fight. and he had to cobble together an "Alliance of The Willing" or something
" how can a military alliance be a supranational organization "beyond any control?"
Are you just plain stupid or on von der Leyens payroll or both?
Leave Uschi out of this. That said, you are wronf if you think that NATO still has any use besides kepping europe's defence spending down. They couldn't do anything during Bush's Iraq war, they couldn't get everybody on board in Libya, nor did they during Georgia, Ukraine or Syria.
They got all the key players on board in Libya. What would they do in Georgia? It was the Georgians who attacked the Russian UN peacekeepers, not the other way around. They are involved in Ukraine and Syria, when it would be better for everybody if they weren't
Boy - whoever you are and wherever you roam - read what I write before you tell me what to do. Nato is a angloimperialist tool for disrupting peace and properity in Eurasia. The German establishment is divided re. the legitimacy of Nato in its current form and modus operandi, its increasing power grab of former political processes and its strategy of confrontation with Russia. Uschi acts in full compliance with Nato, only diverging where she and her soviet-time-educated maestra, Angela, feel sidelined.
"The German establishment is divided re. the legitimacy of Nato in its current form and modus operandi, its increasing power grab of former political processes and its strategy of confrontation with Russia"
as the French establishment, and the Italian establishment, and the Spanish establishment, and... and... and... with a few exceptions, all at the borders with... Russia
oh, and of course the UK, as you mentioned with "angloimperialist tool for disrupting peace and properity in Eurasia"
meanwhile... what is Eurasia? everlasting peace with Russia? travel and trade, unhindered, from Lisbon to Vladivostok? and how is this different, deep down, from the EU, in principles?
just curious
fucking troll. I don't insult easily, but you deserve this, richly
me: " how can a military alliance be a supranational organization "beyond any control?"
you: "Are you just plain stupid or on von der Leyens payroll or both?"
who controls a supranational organization? particularly one that is "beyond any control"?
you yourself come with the name of the German Defense Minister. i.e. a national government
which just shows that you are TROLLING
troll. as simple as that
"I don't insult easily". Then why not simply stop molesting the world with your junior-highschool-level pseudo-analytical garbage, smegma-man?
That would help make the world a better place.
who controls a supranational organization? particularly one that is "beyond any control"?
Satan
Nato is a military organisation used for invasions and as an exclusive market for western arms dealers.
Yes, in the founding treaty, it just says that other states will consider helping if a member is attacked, but it's grown way beyond that. Bought politicians in all member countries always support illegal wars waged by nato, arguing it's to help the allies and that it's our responsibility, when all they really do is help Washington fight for its empire.
and your conclusion of that is... ? that the defensive part isn't important?
No, it's not important, because wars are not fought in that way anymore. The nato and the warsaw pact were designed to fight one another. Now that the warsaw pact doesn't exists any more, it's just used for the projection of power and imperial ambitions.
I'd rather my country be neutral than part of this criminal organisation
"wars are not fought in that way anymore". no? Crimea, Ukraine are fundamentally different wars? or non-wars? Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan?
please explain that way a bit better
Iraq and Afghanistan were launched by a nato country - nato aggression
Syria is the result of US meddling in the internal affairs of a sovereign country and militarily supporting Al-Qaeda to get rid of their government - nato aggression
There was no war in Crimea
The war in Ukraine was launched by Kiev as part of the so called anti-terrorist operation. Ukraine is supported in this by nato countries
Nato defense? Against whom? Russia?
EU + USA military budgets surpass Russia's by, what, 20 to 1? NATO is power projection and nothing more, shoring up the russophobic eastern europe under its wings and cranking up the pressure on the 'russian threat' via proxy wars.
Of the 20 to 1 19 to 1 belongs to the USA military. Of the 19, 18 is lost to waste, fraud and corruption. The remainder is realized or actual value which boils down to which country is the most efficient and inventive in the $'s (money/resources) that result in productive, useful instruments of war. I lean towards Russia as having that edge.
"The Truth is out there," but then, so are you (waaaay out there!)
Ghordius: hallucinations or facts?
Is Europe a FACT or a CONCEPT?
Ok, hallucination then.
That's more hallucination than cognitive dissonance, but I agree.
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"West Prepares to Replace Their Puppet in Turkey" https://youtu.be/OxvPfWkYyUo via
^^^^^^^ I would hazzard a guess that you are wrong on at least two counts. Maybe more. Time will tell
COULD YOU EXPLAIN the Arming of Turkey's NAVAL side of DEFENCE?
And could you explain the DAILY aerial incursions of Turkish Jets into AEGEAN?
Would you say that NATO is usefull to GREECE and under what conditions???????
they have a coast, don't they? are those aerial incursions... NATO incursions? or Turkish ones?
again, what does the word alliance mean, for you guys?
I was asking how well can a military alliance work between members when one (or more) of the members is taking actions against the rest of the members. Oh and BTW, I was thinking that many of the members are putting their own concerns ahead of the alliance/clan.
Turkey serves ZATO's purpose.
Is that different than NATO?
Fuck you ErdoKunt ! You filthy lying sack of sheite !
^^^^^^^ I would say much closer to SUNNI than sheite
Armenian Genocide.
And the Assyrians and the Greeks. Not just hundreds or thousands but millions. And all on the advice of Germany.
I presume the down votes are from those that take exception to my mention of Germany. If that is the case then I suggest that they read up on the role of Prussian General Otto Liman von Santers who delivered a report to the sultan advising, among other things, the removal of all non-Muslim populations from the western and northern shores of Asia Minor.
And if this is not enough then read the recent book in English LEMNOS AND ANZACS - THE GALLIPOLI CAMPAIGN where not only will you find the above statement but you will also find a glowing reference from the Turkish Ambassador in Greece who provides a glowing reference for the book.
Let's not forget Germany's role in blowing up Yugoslavia as they illegaly armed the Croats.
That is really where the shit started.
Of course the little boy molesting Britts also had a big hand in that whole affair.
We all know if its not six million it simply doesn't count.
Lol best comment so far ;).
No one ever mentions the 20 million Germans who died.. mostly civilians who didn't give 2 fucks about the NAZI party
what 'Nazi Party'?
Germans never used the term.
Because its not 6 million, as the guy above made point :)).
Strange how we Americans find it so hard to believe foreign politicians and so hard to disbelieve domestic politicians. Maybe this is a case of "I can call my kid stupid but you can't."
All kids are stupid, and politicians too.
Are you saying my kid is stupid? Are you?
<Them thar is fighting words.> :-)
Yes, I am. When family training is either not done or done by people who are giving the kid a start in life that will result in failure.
By themselves kids are not ready to think like whole humans until later in live. In fact most people never become human, so it is naive to assume that kids can become human.
Which kids? That kid from 7th grade who dominated the picking of teams to make sure his side would win? That kid?
Morn, Cog,
American politicians, I understand. There is not a dime's worth of difference between either party except the letter D or R behind their names. Both of them lie as they hasten to mortgage the future of those yet unborn to ensure they never have to leave DC and live among either serfs or near the clover munchers.
It is Europeans that I find incomprehensible. Whatever are they thinking opening their homes to the wild ones and then appearing shocked when those hoards ravish and devour their young?
They fear being labeled any of the following:
-Racist
-Politically Incorrect
-Sexist
-Homophobic
-Transphobic
-Conservative
-Prejudiced
-Intelligent
-Rational
-Masculine
-Defensive
-White
Sounds like we missed one during our toppling of insane Middle East dictators...
I wonder if Putin doesn't put an end to Erd's aspirations, maybe a little Earl Grey and polonium high tea... I'd buy that for a dollar.
That is modus operandi of Russian/Israeli mafia with British intelligence. Association with Putin is myth concocted in London.
Correct. Polonium is an Israeli weapon. Evidence? Yasser Arafat's hat and underwear...poor man was poisoned by the Israelis...nasty way to go.
'The Phony Litvinenko Murder' William Dunkerley
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YouTube 3 videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9thVryIfF8
Fucking Gollum.
While Erdogan is bad, what is even worse are those leaders of Western nations who either turn a blind eye, support or are clueless about Erdogan's real activities.
you are bunching together a whole lot of very, very diverse positions towards Turkey in that one sentence. and by that pandering to a bias towards a united "western" point of view
Hey Ghordius I try to do my best in as few words as possible. The motivations of Germany, France, Britain and the USA are all slightly different but all amount to the same thing.....support for Erdogan. And that support is not based on any sense of high mindedness but rather than a desire to maintain some form of control and acess to that part of the world.
"And that support is not based on any sense of high mindedness but rather than a desire to maintain some form of control and acess to that part of the world."
If you can't love the one you want, love the one you're with? /sarc
"The motivations of Germany, France, Britain and the USA are all slightly different but all amount to the same thing.....support for Erdogan"
there is Erdogan... and there is Turkey. two separate things Putin and Lavrov both keep very, very carefully apart
meanwhile, there is a Franco-Russian military cooperation deal in Syria, assisted by Germany, to which neither Britain nor the USA partake, or really, really like to see
we will see
You just keep telling yourself that those EU countries you mention are sovereign states Ghordius, if it makes you feel better...most of us on ZH know otherwise.
All states, including the US and Israel, are constrained in various ways. Always have been.
Do the US's various allies dislike being constrained, even when the US is at its most benigh? Of course, tho it would be hard t osay when that occured, certainly 'benigh' is not what rankles Merkel now.
Do all allies of everyone everywhere pursue their own interests as much as possible within every alliiance? Of course, always have and always will it is human. Strongest always does that more, weaker more surreptitiously.
Have Germany and France been opposition the US and cooperating with Russia more of late? Yes, no question. Also consistent with what we believe to be the trends to the end of this era, but people go wrong on those judgments a lot.
You really believe France is bombing oil trucks bound for Turkey, driven by western backed Jihadis that the French govt along with the Gulf Emirates and NATO armed, trained and funded? France is putting on a show for the stupid French citizens that actually believe the French govt is fighting 'terrorism' that it allowed to fester and spread to France. No different than what the US govt has been doing for almost 40 years now. If the French were truly cooperating with Russia they wouldn't have sold those two mistral class carriers to Egypt that were intended for the Russian Navy. NATO is a dangerous, unneccessary orginization that needs to justify its own existense.
Only bc NATO is parking its nukes in Turkey
Erdogan: "Look! Squirrel!"
Erdogan=pure evil...USA Puppet
Zionist puppet.
Erdogan throws the "treason" card like Obummer plays the "race" card. Gee what a shock they're bestest buddies!
Bullshit! This game of trying to get the American sheep to follow another war on lies has to end! Fuck you Erdogan,
Erdogan is a lying war criminal
Turkey supplied the sarin that killed over 1300 Syrians in Ghouta to try to get the Nobel Prize Winner to bomb Assad into oblivion
Seymour Hersh Links Turkey to Benghazi, Syria and Sarin
The assessment of the Defense Intelligence Agency is that the sarin was supplied by Turkey to elements in Ghouta with the intent of “push[ing] Obama over the red line.” Intercepted transmissions from Turkish operators in the aftermath of the attack are jubilant, and the success of their covert mission must have seemed well in hand. Obama’s implicit call to war in the coming month was proof of that.
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/05/06/seymour-hersh-links-turke...
Erdogan: one of the neocon's favorite psychopaths.
The U.S. killed an estimated 500,000 children in Iraq alone. Albright said it was worth it.
And that was BEFORE Dubya's war!
This is how it always ends for sick, psychopathic 'collaborators' with the NWO people. Erdogans guts will be spilling onto the sidewalk by spring.
re Erdogan says Assad slaughtered 400,000
He's probably confusing it with the 1,400,000 (and counting!) that the USSA ZIO-NeoCONS have slaughtered in Iraq, Libya, Afhghanistan.
My advice To ErdoBongan? Lay off free-basing that extra-strength Turkish sh!t... freekin' moron!
How many Kurds has the Turkish regime killed?
There's a magic number of murders before it goes from abdominal to horrific to great. Kill enough people and they'll put you on a t-shirt and some idiot leftist will canonize you into their safe space
I believe that magic number is six million.
Such hypocrisy from the sultan of spin;Turdogan is going down the pan;expect a military coup soon with a secular saddam-lite type replacement for the ottoman arsehole
Let's see how many adjectives I can come up with to describe the Sunni arabs. Sick, depraved, violent, bloodthristy, treacherous, liars, psychopaths, greedy, phoney, punitive, repressive, egomanical, enraged goat fuckers.
The sooner they are gone, the better. I was wondering who would be first, Erdogan or Salman. I guess I have my answer.
You forgot, Headchoppers.
Well its not a surprise. After his oil scandal he clearly sided with Sunnis 100% loyal dog. He is also of strong religion and reverted great Ataturk`s secular country more towards Saudi monkey land. Thus we can see what religion does to the brain - once a good friend of Assad and relatively ok leader is now full retard religious criminal.
One of my most confident predictions for 2016 is that Erdogan will be overthrown by the generals!
Any truth to the assertion that Turkey purchased the U.S. Army's retired lever action rifles and used them in the Armnian genocide?
I know of French and Italian Help.
Against the Armenians and the Greeks, also other Christian minorities such as Assyrians.
Coming from a guy that supports the Langley/Mossad created and supported Terrorists aka ISIS aka ISIL aka Al Queda.
erdogan i think has reached borrowed time status.
Now if they were killed mercifully I would be totally OK with THAT....What a complete bag of stinking, rotting SHIT is this Erdogan...
That dirty, piece of filth, cock sucking, terrorist supporting, child bombing, kurd killing, mother fucking scumbag Erdogan...he thinks the sunni shines out of his arse.
Die soon bitch, lots of hate, Snake.
Turks need to whack this guy and quickly. If not, make Turkey a sheet of glass and save the world from these psycho's....
Agree -- Erdogan needs terminating - ASAP !
Hello pot, I'd like you to meet kettle. No fucking mention of the Armenians? Fuck you Erdogan.
REMOVE KEBAB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSDb8pD6sno
Assad was only doing what Qaddafi was doing---fighting murdering terrorists.
Then Hillary "Bloody Hands" Clinton came along, aiding and abetting those same (sworn enemies of the United States) murdering terrorists.
"We came, we saw, hundreds of thousands died" "cackle, cackle"
"At this point, what difference does it make?"
Imagine how many dead if the progressive mega-murderer Hillary Clinton avoids jail with the help of the corrupt DOJ and steals the presidency like Obirdbrain did?
Hillary Clinton is the face of progressive death for millions. I pray President Trump prosecutes her ass to the max for her crimes against humanity. Hillary has destroyed nations, and for what?
Erdogan is cut from the same cloth as Hillary. A lying murderer who's only interest is tyranny.
Grimaldus
Lots of tension on here this morning. Yes the best defense is a great offense and yes the world would be a safer place for the US if the US conquered every country in the world. But as thousands of years of history should have taught us, conquering the world is the easy part, controlling the world after victory is IMPOSSIBLE. Thus the best defense is a great offense is only valid if you are perpetually trying to conquer the world because it ceases to be a method of defense once the world is conquered.
The US cannot conquer Russia. If the US tried it would go nuclear very quickly. Forget about a safe place. If you survive the nuclear war you will wish that you were dead.
You cannot go anywhere by supporting a regime that has mercilessly killed 400,000 innocent people with conventional and chemical weapons.
Oh really? Then you better leave NATO, because it is run by a crowd who killed a million innocents in Iraq alone this past decade or so. Add in invasions and bombing of several other fictitious nations in the middle-east, and you're talking serious numbers. So you better disassociate yourself from the USSA right away.
Oh, and you need to dissociate yourself too.
And civilians (women and children included) have been dying by the hundreds of thousands in Syria for years while the US continued to support the proxy armies that contributed to the instability.
Cue 2 minutes hate. Happy New Year, gentlemen.
Again, Turkey with Erdogan will be a real asset to the EU.
2016 or 2017 not later, bet ?
No way later. It´s end game.
<-- actually this killed them , along with turkey