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Submitted by Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org,

On Jan. 1, 2002, the day that euro coins and banknotes entered into circulation, my column, “Say Goodbye to the Mother Continent,” contained this pessimistic prognosis:

“This European superstate will not endure, but break apart on the barrier reef of nationalism. For when the hard times come, patriots will recapture control of their national destinies from Brussels bureaucrats to whom no one will ever give loyalty or love.”

The column described what was already happening.

“Europe is dying. There is not a single nation in all of Europe with a birth rate sufficient to keep its population alive, except Muslim Albania. In 17 European nations, there are already more burials than births, more coffins than cradles.

 

“Between 2000 and 2050, Asia, Africa and Latin America will add 3 billion to 4 billion people — 30 to 40 new Mexicos! — as Europe loses the equal of the entire population of Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Germany.

 

“By 2050, the median age in Europe will be 50, nine years older than the oldest nation on earth today, Japan. One in 10 Europeans will be over 80. And who will take care of these scores of millions of elderly, before the Dutch doctors arrive at the nursing home?

 

“Immigrants is the answer, immigrants already pouring into Europe in the hundreds of thousands annually from the Middle East and Africa, changing the character of the Old Continent. Just as Europe once invaded and colonized Asia, Africa and the Near East, the once-subject peoples are coming to colonize the mother countries. And as the Christian churches of Europe empty out, the mosques are going up.

 

“Yet, even as great nations like France, Germany, Italy and Spain grow weary of the strain of staying independent, sovereign and free, the sub-nations within are struggling to be born again. In Scotland, Wales, Ulster, Corsica, the Basque country and northern Italy are secessionist movements not unlike those that broke up Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union into [24] independent nations.”

What was predicted, 14 years ago, has come to pass.

Migrants into Germany from the Middle and Near East reached 1 million in 2015. EU bribes to the Turks to keep Muslim migrants from crossing over to the Greek islands, thence into the Balkans and Central Europe, are unlikely to stop the flood.

My prediction that European “patriots will recapture control of their national destinies,” looks even more probable today.

Prime Minister David Cameron, who almost lost a referendum on Scottish secession, is demanding a return of British sovereignty from the EU sufficient to satisfy his countrymen, who have been promised a vote on whether to abandon the European Union altogether.

Marine Le Pen’s anti-EU National Front ran first in the first round of the 2015 French elections.
Many Europeans believe she will make it into the final round of the next presidential election in 2017.

Anti-immigrant, right-wing parties are making strides all across Europe, as the EU is bedeviled by a host of crises.

Europe’s open borders that facilitate free trade also assure freedom of travel to homegrown terrorists.

Mass migration into the EU is causing member nations to put up checkpoints and close borders. The Schengen Agreement on the free movement of goods and people is being ignored or openly violated.

The economic and cultural clash between a rich northern Europe and a less affluent south — Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal — manifest in the bad blood between Athens and Berlin, endures.

Northern Europeans grow weary of repeated bailouts of a south that chafes at constant northern demands for greater austerity.

Then there is the surge of sub-nationalism, as in Scotland, Catalonia, Flanders, and Veneto, where peoples seek to disconnect from distant capitals that no longer speak for them, and reconnect with languages, traditions and cultures that give more meaning to their lives than the economics-uber-alles ideology of Frau Angela Merkel.

Moreover, the migrants entering Europe, predominantly Islamic and Third World, are not assimilating as did the European and largely Christian immigrants to America of a century ago.

The enclaves of Asians in Britain, Africans and Arabs around Paris, and Turks in and around Berlin seem to be British, French and German in name only. And some of their children are now heeding the call to jihad against the Crusaders invading Muslim lands.

The movement toward deeper European integration appears to have halted, and gone into reverse, as the EU seems to be unraveling along ideological, national, tribal and historic lines.

If these trends continue, and they seem to have accelerated in 2015, the idea of a United States of Europe dies, and with it the EU.

And this raises a question about the most successful economic and political union in history - the USA.

How does an increasingly multiracial, multiethnic, multilingual, multicultural United States avoid the fate to which Europe appears to be headed, when there is no identifiable racial or ethnic majority here in 2042?

Are our own political and racial divisions disappearing, or do they, too, seem to be deepening?

 

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Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:08 | 6976419 JohnG
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Western Civilization is being detroyed from within through political corruption and crony capitalism. 

This is the endgame.  The corporate "elite" are taking while the taking is good - mandated by law even - see crony capitalism.

Next comes extermination.

Not a mistake....A Plan.

 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:18 | 6976452 Future Jim
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Secession is a right, and decentralization is good.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:31 | 6976518 SixIsNinE
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Patrick Buchanan - who makes my tires?  china who makes my brakes?  china   who makes my shifters?  china   who makes my carbon fiber frames?  china   who makes my boots?  china   who makes my helmets?  china   who makes my gloves?   china  

 

and you old fogies try to tell me that you fought and won against China?    try to sell me that Brooklyn Bridge over Sarasota and you will win it !  

 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:34 | 6976531 ThaBigPerm
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"Disintegrating"?  Sure.  If being dismembered against your will could be construed as you "disintegrating", in a hail-Mary of passive construction.  I like to think of it as munchausen syndrome by proxy presented by the West's political class.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:11 | 6976695 Chris Dakota
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West: Cultural Marxism

What did you think their goal was?

Unicorns? Free shit? Revenge on the rich?

It's Jews

They must BURN

Extermination? It's who gets who first.

Where they gonna run to? France?....LOL

 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:56 | 6976854 Lore
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Burn the unicorns!

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:51 | 6976631 Hail Spode
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Correct. Centralizers want to take more and more decisions further and further from the individual. We never even get to meet the people who run our lives for us. In the end it is going to be either globalism or localism. If for no other reason than no other philosophy of government can resist the natural tendency of government to centralize over time. Localism as in http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B0GACAQ

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:19 | 6976469 Buckaroo Banzai
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The real problem is Cultural Marxism. The "Long March Through the Institutions" has laid waste to our society. "Crony Capitalism" is just a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:21 | 6976478 johngaltfla
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With all that's going on, rumors of Executive Orders, war, near war, civil war, etc, then there's this:

And Another Cryptic Tweet from Matt Drudge Appears Tonight

Man does 2016 have "The Year of the Big Suck" written all over it.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:59 | 6976673 Implied Violins
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Yeah, but all of this shit though...anyone else scroll through the articles here on ZH lately and notice any patterns? It's like, "the end this" and "this is fucked" and "doom doOM DOOM!!" It's just all hyped and in our face, like someone turned the sound up to 11. On EVERYTHING, EVERYWHERE.

Anyone else smell shenanigans here?

I personally smell GLOBALISM, and an increase in the purveyance of FEAR.

Yeah, shit stinks at the moment. Yeah, it may all go to hell in a handbasket. But do NOT buy into the fear; though things suck right now, it is NOT the end unless WE make it so.

If you give in to the fear, they have won. Don't, because 'they' can not possibly ever get into our heads unless we let them in. And if we can personally resist this bullshit and show it for what it is, it will give hope to everyone else around us.

It's all fear porn, meant to make us roll over on our stomachs and say, 'I give up - don't hurt me!' - when we should be showing our fangs, and say, 'FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!'

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 00:05 | 6976881 Lore
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The mistake most people make is in being afraid of the wrong things. KNOW YOUR REAL ENEMY.  He isn't "Al Qaeda," "Global Warming" or any of the other false flags or narratives given to you: he's their purveyor, their herald, the psychopathic con man who invents, promotes and sells the snake oil. 

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 00:33 | 6976968 lincolnsteffens
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It is much worse in the MSM and the movie theaters but you make valid points.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:46 | 6976582 vollderlerby
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Can you elaborate?

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 01:32 | 6977093 True Blue
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...and taxing the cultural citizens to subsidize their own displacement.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 08:15 | 6977561 doctor10
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The "future' is clearly regional. Witness Catalonia in Spain, Wales/Scotland in the UK, the Lega Nord in Italy etc..

The proponents of these movements merely recognize that materially distant centralized authority carries far more of a regional overhead and burden than is possible to maintain.

Basically the state of indebtedness of the Western Social Welfare Democracies, and the limits of human opportunity those debts impose upon their citizens, is a marker of the destructiveness and uselessness those 20th century legacy governments.

Their gradual morphing into worldwide fascism is their only hope to continue a semblence of their current structure, and yet that serves merely to propagate the deficiencies of 19th-20th century burocratic heirerarchy well into the 21st century.

Artificially created and encouraged conflict is staged around the world to attempt to justify the status quo, and remains the greatest anchor around the neck of 21st century humanity.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:07 | 6976422 Budnacho
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Nope, this isn't the end...it's just the low that precipitates the genetic-cleansing that usually occurs after moments like these in history. People forget whats important in life, shit blows up...chaos and destruction followed by the next few generations appreciating things more....till their kids get soft and it begins all over again....rinse repeat...

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:08 | 6976423 NoDebt
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While European countries argue about Nationalism vs. The United States of Europe, the muzzies keep walking across the border.

In 30 years most European countries will be considered Muslim.  In 30 years the United States of America will be considered an "hispanic" (read: Mexican) country.

And then the Beaners and the Muzzies will wage war, still financed by the same banks we have today.  And around and around we go.

Polar bears might be an endangered species, but the caucasian race will be gone long before them.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:28 | 6976508 Skateboarder
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Crystal clairvoyance! What you say is truth. Don't forget the bionic implants. Bzzzzt.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:33 | 6976523 SixIsNinE
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I can impart the understanding of the microchip injection - !

BZZZZT !    Zchat me up bro!

 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:45 | 6976577 Skateboarder
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The smartpoop addiction is merely the warmup in the digitization of man.

It's a long road ahead, and storms abound.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 12:38 | 6978416 Raging Debate
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Skateboarder - Yep, within decades too. No longer 'dust to dust' but was in reality energy to energy. Its ultimately good news we finish evolving. But first, a big nasty world war. It always goes there. 

 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:08 | 6976428 rightwingterrorist
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Within and without.

All by plan.

But hey, we're all in recovery.

Ain't it grand?

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:11 | 6976433 LetThemEatRand
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The oligarchs and bankers know that the middle class of Western nations is the only thing standing in the way of them and complete power over the masses.  So they are shipping in non-assimilating immigrants as fast as they can, offshoring manufacturing jobs to countries like China that don't even pretend to be free, giving retirees and other savers zero percent on their money so they slowly lose principal, and running government budget deficits that will destroy the value of Western currencies and things like social security.  

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:15 | 6976446 Ignatius
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In sum, class war... and we're losing badly.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:18 | 6976462 LetThemEatRand
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Yes.  I think the guys in the big club want their crowns back.  

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:23 | 6976471 Ignatius
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The ones who stole early and stole well are really full of themselves.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:35 | 6976539 SixIsNinE
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dude Ignatius!  I've never seen you in such low self esteem...

the SwineStine & Piglosi class have never seen such shitty sights and I don't want you to forget that...

You have vision beyond St. I - brother Ignatius - ....

the valley or Orcs lay defeated and poisoned ...

stay strong I

 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:08 | 6976646 Demdere
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They are only non-assimilating if we keep them from assimilating.  Why would we do that?

You all act as if we are passive creatures to whom bad things are being done and we can do nothing about it.  Me, I walk  up and say 'hi' to new people in our neighborhood, seems to work OK so far.

Why would we keep them from assimilating? How could we, even if we wanted to? Remember back when all cultures had black slaves?  Notice how everyone assimilated?  Whites ended up with slave's word and slaves' accents and like slave food.  And so many of them were so light-brown after a few generations.  Or whatever, some of the Indian tribes had white slaves at different times, they assimilated genetically and culturally also.

To the point now that my wife's best friend, whose husband is an American black, quite dark of skin but on the phone I can't tell he is any different from my sister and her husband, country-club Republicans of most pale hue.  He is the supercomputer programmer, I may have mentioned him. And our friend here is probably close to the local culture than my sister and husband, also.  Nobody is concerned about those issues, why is this so insane?

This hysteria about assimilation and Muslims is completely ridiculous and has so little reality.  Yes, there are problems adjusting for both sides, but everyone on all sides of these merges of culture in previous times have pronounced their offspring good and the culture better than every parent.  Every one.

My theory is that our MSM is effectively a COINTELPRO operation keeping our culture from dealing with 9/11 FF and the treasonous murderers who killed 3K people and kicked off 14 years of war in their quest for world domination.

MSM hasn't been honest in a long time, which is one reason none of these thigns can be solved.

Pat cannot possibly have a solid opinion here, he will not acknowledge 9/11 FF, now the driving force in our society.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 00:09 | 6976895 Government need...
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Methinks you are just passing for the naive little fruit.  Untermensch cant assimilate.  And some ideologies are mutually exclusive.  Like Islam and US Constitutional freedoms.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 00:30 | 6976960 Duc888
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Demdere :They are only non-assimilating if we keep them from assimilating.  Why would we do that?

 

It's a numbers game.  We already lost.  Seriously.  Look at the facts.  This is 100% unsustainable.  Pay attention to HOW they "a$$imilate".

Take 35 minutes out of your busy schedule and educate yourself.  The Republic is done, finito, cooked, scorched and burnt.  Game over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u1J6EEhkyM

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 01:54 | 6977139 MisterMousePotato
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Well done video. Normally, I don't have patience for such (I read much, much faster), but the presenter was quite engaging.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 09:17 | 6977676 SmallerGovNow2
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Fucking AWESOME!

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 09:55 | 6977791 nevertheless
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If you are talking Muslims, wrong, if you are talking Latinos you are of course correct. 

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 13:55 | 6978679 Raging Debate
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 ^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^

The Republic is toast. Remember saying the Pledge of Allegiance? Couldnt have that now could we? You know my Grandpa Joe was a bridge builder. He wound up selling pencils for a year during the Great Depression. Then he lived abroad, he followed the money building bridges.  Smart fellow, I should take a cue.

Why pay first world price to live in a third world country? I guess it is better than Germany they are still moving here to SW Florida. I just moved ten miles into a nice neighborhood. All white and very nice. All the stores hire mostly white people. The service level is very noticeable. People are people. You pretend to pay them and they will pretend to work.

The cable companies are good example. There have been five immagrants here that barely spoke english. None of them wanted to drill outside to run a cable line so they all look at it, say they need a part and dont come back. So they lose business and now up to four hours of labor. Even at $10 an hour this cost the company $40. No but dont hire whitey for $15 an hour. lol. 

I did like this video everyone should watch it. We're bankrupt now and running on fumes. THAT is why I own gold. To hopefully have enough seed corn to replant so to speak. 

 

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 09:54 | 6977788 nevertheless
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Are we talking about Muslims or Mexicans? If we are talking Muslism, well you have issues, because we bomb their homes and create the immigration flow. 

 

If your talking Mexican/Latin, you are right on the mark. 

 

All the information we need to know: https://www.numbersusa.com/  

 

 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:15 | 6976444 BarnacleBill
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The destruction of European nations is being managed in the pursuit of money; I don't think there is anything ideological about it - although I may be wrong. I've mentioned this belief on ZH once before, but it's worth mentioning it again. The brief essay at the link spells out just how huge the project is. Kind of puts it in perspective.

http://barlowscayman.blogspot.com/2015/11/slum-clearance-on-massive-scale.html

 

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 00:40 | 6976987 lincolnsteffens
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No, it is money and ideology of the worst kind wedded into one.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:17 | 6976455 sidiji
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dumbass, USA was watered with Blood....blood makes countries stick together and only blood can dissolve the cement of blood

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:36 | 6976543 SixIsNinE
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whatever...

r u a sidgil ?

 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:19 | 6976470 nmewn
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Oh WTF Pat, freedom as an ideal and is not the historical state of the common man. This ideal, this concept, transcends all ethnic, cultural and racial lines. 

Provide for me the enlightened gentlemen (sorry ladies, it's just how I talk...lol) who desire to live in bondage, in servitude, under a despotic bureaucratic nanny-state and show you a certifiable nutcase, it's just not how humans are. 

We are not going anywhere, they are.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:21 | 6976476 Laplacian2003
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About 10 years ago I remember a prominent Russian strategist saying that a civil war was in the cards for the US by 2020.  His observation was that the US was starting to polarize around racial and political lines that were very reminiscent of what happened with the breakup of the USSR.   At the time, I thought the prediction was ridiculous, but now I am begining to agree.  

 

 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:43 | 6976546 Government need...
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I look @ the change within the US over the past 30 years and I say I will NEVER go to war for this country under its current Fedcoat cadre of statist totalitarians.  If it came to a choice, I'll stand for freedom.  Hear that NS-fuckin-A?  

The nation is splitting, and I welcome that split.  I want to live in one nation under God, with liberty and justice for all.  Fuck you Washington.  Fuck you global corpocrisy.  Fuck you military-industrial complex.  Fuck you banksters.  Fuck you thugcops.  Fuck you public school teachers.  Fuck you multiculturalism/"diversity".

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:02 | 6976688 Demdere
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No, the nation will not split.  This is our nation, and I intend to keep it together.

We don't need to give any small piece of it to anyone, and doing so would diminish the wealth for us all.  So we just have to fix the gov.  We can do that, no problem.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:27 | 6976766 Government need...
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You are entitled to your opinion.  Just acknowledge the mass of the forces driving the nation apart.  I want a split.  Cant take this tyranny.  Give me liberty, or risk death.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:47 | 6976834 Borrow Owl
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  "So we just have to fix the gov."

'Round and 'round they go- doing the same stupid shit over and over again.

History will just keep on repeating itself unless and until the masses pull their collective heads far enough out of their asses to see that the very concept of government is detrimental to their well-being.

Only sheep need a shepherd.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:08 | 6976707 Chris Dakota
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you may not have a a choice to sit it out.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:38 | 6976556 SixIsNinE
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yes the ghost of Rasputin spouts again !

 

/s

f That !

now who can offer an 8 acre spread to offer St. PootyPoot a friendly greeting amongst our Zero USllanders a proper meat & potatoes get-together?

>>???

 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:47 | 6976589 vollderlerby
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Remember the dude's name by any chance?  Would like to find out more

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:04 | 6976696 Laplacian2003
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Sorry, I don't remember the specifics (heard it on the news I think).  Kagemusho posted a link to a book that talks about the same issue and I'm repasting the link here Civil War 2 The Coming Breakup of America.  I went over to Amazon to take a look at it and some of the comments there mention the same Russian projections...

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 09:40 | 6977719 Kagemusho
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His name is Igor Panarin. And, frankly, he's been a lot less accurate than Chittum has.

But all the same, if he is being taken as seriously as he seems to have been by leaders in the Kremlin, then you may expect his observations to have been figured into Russian foreign policy vis-a-vis the US. Something to think about...

The economies of all the major players are on the ropes, as ZH makes abundantly clear. Russia, the US, China, the EU are all like a bunch of worn-out boxers still trying to pummel each other while leaning on those ropes. Each are having problems with domestic unrest; their 'corner men' are throwing tomatoes at their backs, not offering support . Who falls first is the question.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:14 | 6976726 DipshitMiddleCl...
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The russians arent stupid, they know what the Jews did to them (Bolsheviks) and they see what they're doing to the USA

 

FEMA camps are just gulags with 4G wireless internet connection

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 14:05 | 6978839 Raging Debate
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Laplacian - I remember that forecast his prediction was for it to happen in 2013. Doesnt mean he was wrong on where it is all heading. 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:24 | 6976486 FreeShitter
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Its a war against whitey.....every where you look you can see/feel it. Chin up because you have no other choice.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:41 | 6976566 SixIsNinE
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Hawaii 5-0 was supposed to stem that war against Whitey.

 

Now... how has that gone .... let's see... what kinda Kind are you tokin on ? 

Purple Diesel Kind Kush #111 ?  oh, that's good with me,...

pass it on to MnwesnmmewnmmewnnnM .....

and reLoad when he's finished... you know how he likes to Bogart the Load...

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:35 | 6976527 yogibear
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"Next comes extermination."

The Bill Gate's plan to reduce the surface population quickly.

Piss off the Russians (Vicroria Nuland threatening and calling Putin names on MSNBC) so they fire some R-36 25 megaton SS-9s 



Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:34 | 6976536 Rusty Shorts
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>> "Exactly. Which is why most people I know think they can ignore the math and everything will be okay. They fight the very idea that there is a real decline in quality of life, that it is permanent, and that it will continue to deteriorate. As Michele added above: "Apres moi, le deluge." Everyone else will get screwed but not me, I got mine.

It's a tsunami. Previous paradigms no longer apply.

Teevee, junkfood-addled Amerika could not withstand a currency collapse. The Black Plague made human capital valuable again - in modern application we have tens of millions on the gov't teat with no recovery.

http://www.martinarmstrong.org/files/Are-We-Running-Out-of-Other-People-...

All those 99-weekers waiting for jobs. What jobs? Doing what? The service economy is a fiat lie and our infrastructure is based on a constant flow of cheap oil.

Mortgage? WTF for? Prices are artificially high because of 1) shadow inventory 2) who can say they will be employed in their profession to make payments for 30 years anymore - no man is an island.

Stay nimble. Stay quick. This is no time for white picket fences. Going back to the sad, miserable, drugged-up state of our Nation it ain't a stretch to imagine that the Mandarin speakers are planning to make use of their raw (war) materials and spouse-less young men for "real estate acquisition". Hasn't anyone read a history book around here? The Chi-Coms have openly spoken of how they deserve North America. This kind of scenario isn't discussed because it is the worst-case scenario outside of nuc-bio-chem warfare, and then subsequent invasion.

"Oh, but China needs us and we need them." Bullshit. Everyone is buying time. The Chinese aren't stupid and they know they aren't getting their money back. Some finance guy over there said US bonds are not safe medium and long. In other words "We are trying to buy as much time as possible to acquire tangible assets that matter!"

All the survivalists from the 70's were wrong because they didn't understand the "Nixon" trick/effect of taking us off the gold standard and taking paper money to its extreme utility. It would have been better to face this shitstorm back then. Back when Americans were still eating meals that had real nutrition, no obesity epidemic, actual human interaction, strong infrastructure with less bureaucracy. Today it's all bloated beyond recognition.

When the Fed finally makes a move that has a visible and real effect on Amerika even rationing of supplies won't keep the interurban areas content. We are at the brink of a f.u.n.d.a.m.e.n.t.a.l. shift. Be far away from the millions that require a weekly check for their very survival. Do you think the owners of the Fed care if millions starve?"

 

 - former ZH member

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:45 | 6976579 SixIsNinE
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Rusty's Nimble & Quick ... love the  ...WTH  ... "former" ZH member?  Rusty!  !

Rusty!  you are a LifeTime ZH member... Bro....

don't you forget it....

now here you go 300g Mescaline + 70mikes Acid and we'll get you back into shape...

 

 

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 00:22 | 6976666 Rusty Shorts
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Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:40 | 6976560 Kagemusho
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Back in 1996 a book titled Civil War 2 The Coming Breakup of America was published. In the back of the book the author Thomas Chittum made a number of predictions. About 70-80% of them would seem to have come true, including his prediction that a global economic crisis would trigger equally global unrest, leading to the same at home.

Since then we've been treated to the spectacles of the wars in the Middle East leading to the 'migrant' crisis in Europe, and Ferguson and Baltimore and sundry other smaller but no less significant examples of the kinds of things that Chittum said might happen.  He also said that multiculturalism simply does not work.

The man's been scarily prescient, so far. I hope he's wrong about the last part of his predictions, but given his track record so far, somehow I'm not too optimistic.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:42 | 6976569 CHoward
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The United States has always consisted of a multitude of nationalities, races, religions and cultures.  While certain groups do tend to group together, society still functions rather smoothly.  I don't see the U.S. having the same problems as Europe is and will have with immigration since they tend to self-identify with their countries and not assimilate much with others.  Naturally, the U.S. will need to deal with terrorism from ISIS and their followers, but every country will end up having to deal with them anways. 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:57 | 6976644 Government need...
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You are blind to the growing conflicts within the US.  Look @ the Statehouse chatter on nullficiation AND # of lawsuits filed by states against the Fedcoats.  These trends are pin-high (lawsuits) or highest since 1860 (nullfication Statehouse efforts).  The Article 5 convention continues to build momentum, again setting a record that has no precedent in US history.  Political disagreement is one thing.  Tyranny is another.  Obamacare is tyranny.  So, too, are multiple recent actions taken by the 'Just-Us' Dept and IRS.  None of the associated unlawful behavior has been prosecuted.  Americans can see the level of injustice rising, along with the tide of tyranny.  Should we continue down this path, there will be blood flowing in many streets.  You best believe there are people waiting for some payback. . .  It's on.  Prepare. 

 

If Putin got a call from some Americans freedom-fighters asking for military aid, you think he's gonna say no?  There are also the 'moderate' Islamic groups out there.  You can 'axe' the CIA about identifying, equipping, and training these 'freedom-fighters'.  You think they'd say 'no' to some fun Stateside?  Might even pick up some EBT!

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:06 | 6976700 Demdere
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All of our problems are within the gov sector.  We ordinary folks, independent of the gov, don't have those problems.  Or, rather, once the pensions, SS, ... are gone, nobody has to concern themselves with them, we just have to take care of each other.

It is, every society learns, far easier to fix the society than fight about how to fix it.

War is negative-sum.  Why do that to ourselves? We can beat them without a war, even easier.  They win if we start shooting each other, which is very likely the reason it comes up here so often.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:35 | 6976780 Government need...
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You are SOOOO full of shit.  War fought for freedom against tyranny is hardly a negative.  Living under incremental tyranny IS negative-sum.  .Gov is the problem, b/c the purpose of .gov is to do the will of the people.  This can work, under certain circumstances, particularly when the will of the people is rather similar.  Throw multiculturalism/diversity into the mix, and continuously move the goalposts to the point where a man who keeps his dick and asks to be called a woman is somehow 'normal', and you've suddenly got to employ tyranny and threats to keep the nation together.  At that point, the nation isn't worth saving.  Give me liberty or risk death.

 

You can have your socialist 'utopia' full of raghead headhunters and stupid niggers. Just dont try to get in the way when some of us say 'Peace out bitches'.

 

Your ilk merely wants to tax me like a fucking mule. 

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 00:48 | 6977004 I AM SULLY
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You must live in that magical Walt Disney America ...

(but for a software engineer)

(who has lived all across this nation in the last decade)

(you know - IN ORDER TO FIND WORK)

(well ... I don't see the Disney)

(but I do see the Romero)

Good luck!

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 04:30 | 6977337 Sturm und Drang
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As in George Romero? Yeah baby.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 14:30 | 6978961 Raging Debate
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I AM Sully - Your competing against millions of other programmers. Sharpen up your SQL and become a database admin. Call me up if you want 603-953-3388. Ill tell you how to get a permanent job if you want one. Only reason my business survived was I learned SQL.

Back in 2013 had a rough year. Not all of it was economy, Mom died of cancer kind of screwed me up. Plus decided I was not going to sell products without value like Wall Street so learned to practice what I preach. Anyways I am no saint but here is the point. I applied for a job in Tampa as a DBA. I told them I could show them how to leverage the data to make more money which is why they should hire me over a college kid. The job paid $60k per year start. You have to go where the money is not just rail against injustice (which is noble). 

 I did not wind up needing to take the job but could. Data is the new paper, coding is the new ink. One could make a killing building a couple of data apps. 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:43 | 6976572 Barrack Chavez
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The people of Europe never voted for (or against) the EU. Brussels has no democratic legitimacy. A bunch of arrogant, pompous asses running around telling people what to do.

All the while the pompous asses "demand" that Germans pay the costs, even though Germany said up front that they would absorb only their share, not the entire cost.

There was no European Union, ever. Its not disintegrating, it never was

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 22:48 | 6976593 SixIsNinE
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Barrack Chavez, come on, you know the Frogs have learned to love the Krauts the last 40 years...  and the wanking Brits love all the EurocrAts.... and of course the Dutch have given the entire Euro area 30000kilos of MEFOBILLS / no, just kidding MDMA ECSTASY .... just enough that MEFOBILLS doesn't overdo it...

Milkweg anyone?

 


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Here is a video explaining who owns the U.S. media:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O3eaXCxRUM

 

The U.S. press consolidated into a cross directorate of companies after Bill Clinton's tellecommunication act.

Bill Clinton was a CFR agent.

Even Zuesse's "expose" of the  press, doesn't really get to the heart of the matter.

You cannot fix a problem unless you first make an accurate diagnosis.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 14:46 | 6979012 Raging Debate
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SixisNine - True information and the Jews own the banking system which we all know is true. But this guy would do a lot better if he took off the Christian hat and robe.

Making it a religious war wont work. And anglos like Bill Clinton and Bushes of the CFR willingly sold out.

Dont care if your a purple martian, theft and treason of the Republic aand its people is what it is. But its been properly destroyed and as GWB said, "this sucker is going down." Actually, all thats left is some inbound nukes to silence the rape victim. Remember Bill Clinton talking about America absorbing a first nuclear strike? Some suicidal sociopaths in this world, that is for sure. Why I hedge because I have absolutely zero chance of stopping it, but at least can encourage people in my local community to prepare. 

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:03 | 6976693 atomicwasted
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Pat, you ceased being even marginally relevant years ago.  Go and enjoy some retirement and leave us alone.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:22 | 6976747 Hohum
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The problem, gentleman (and the two or three ladies who hang out here), is that the machines no longer pay for themselves.  But, be my guest, find some hated group to blame.

Tue, 12/29/2015 - 23:34 | 6976791 DrData02
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"How does an increasingly multiracial, multiethnic, multilingual, multicultural United States avoid the fate to which Europe appears to be headed, when there is no identifiable racial or ethnic majority here in 2042?"

Answer: IT DOESN'T.

Are our own political and racial divisions disappearing, or do they, too, seem to be deepening?

Answer: DEEPENING.

Question: Who is going to do anything about it?  How?

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 00:32 | 6976967 onmail1
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<-- west has always thrived on war for profit (loot actually)

But now the brown ppl are getting smarter , they also have the nuke stick to impale in the ass of west. Therefore west is disintegrating , decaying , rusting & will finally give way to a better equitable distribution of wealth & prosperity.

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euroPeons were witchcraft practicing cannibals in ancient times they ate neanderthals to extinction 

euroPeons then became pirates , looting & burning ships

euroPeons started slavery of people, treated humans as animals

euroPeons attacked (peace loving) spiritually advanced civilizations killed monks & ascetics & burnt libraries in asia (by turkish)

euroPeons then became colonialists , racists , treated people as servants, slaves & second class citizens in their own countries looted all their wealth & carried to europe

...and millions died in their colonies , Columbus & his ppl butchered humans for the greed of gold in west indies, these european invaders dashed children on rocks, burnt ppl alive on wooden stakes, they competed on horsebacks  to cut bound local ppl in half in single stroke; East India co. of British looted treasuries from eastern nations & deposited in London

euroPeons started drug trade (opium wars) promoted drug abuse

euroPeons invaded & grabbed lands of America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand relegating their natives to second class poor citizens who are still struggling to get on their feet.

euroPeons then started another form of piracy - swiss banks & britsh caymen islands

keeping stolen money by corrupt & became rich

Now euroPeons(& americans) want oil & gas monopoly

destroying country after country (Iraq, Libya, Syria etc) millions dead, injured, homeless; europeons are butchering heads of state openly(Gaddafi, Saddam & now Assad targeted on false grounds)

You euroPeons & americans  are working against human rights ( Julian Assange on house arrest & Snowden made to flee)

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You euroPeons(& americans) are a disease to planet earth

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 05:22 | 6977392 Ghordius
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sounds like a lot of fun, the way you summarize our history. what is the twitter hashtag? "not-boring"?

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 01:14 | 6980923 onmail1
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Twitter phobic due to obvious

NSA

Btw truth is bitter 

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 11:07 | 6985053 Kobe Beef
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@onmail:

Yet here you are speaking The White Man's Language, using White Technology.

Don't your "people" have some hollow logs to drum on?

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 02:34 | 6977198 TheFutureIsThePast
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Let it be written in future history books that the West wasn't conquered, it committed suicide.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 03:55 | 6977295 captain-nemo
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Is The West Disintegrating?

Yes. Very fast too. The mainstream establishment’s grand ideas to create a united multicultural world where everybody holds hands and are brothers and sisters and where the sun always shines has eventually caused the western civilization to collapse.

The mainstream establishment that drives it all must be seen upon as the madmen we often see in movies. They stop at nothing to reach their goals and they even sacrifice their own race and their own civilization.  In their eyes, it’s for the better good.

Madmen in power has never before succeeded , but this time I think they just might. Before, when these things happened and madmen started to violate the world order, we  could always rely upon some good guys to save the world, but now the good guys have turned mad as well.

 

The problem for us white folks though, is that there is nowhere to hide. Maybe we deserve what is coming to us?

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 15:02 | 6979050 Raging Debate
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Nemo - Speak for yourself you self loathing asshole. People robbed and killed since civilization existed always supposedly 'have it coming'.

Just give me one set of laws we all follow. If you write a law I am to do 10 jumping jacks you too had damn well better do 10 jumping jacks.

The rich buy the government then destroy it so they can tell you to do 10 jumping jacks while they laugh  at how silly you look for believing such bullshit to begin with. But for every jumping jack they get richer while you get poorer. And they do get more fat, lazy and stupid while the guys doing the jumping jacks lean up, wise up against predation.

That is why the fangs really come out for the CFR types, your supposed to praise them for being forced into jumping jacks, robbed and suicided. They were pretty smart to set up the police state a few years ahead of the looting spree. The laughter and joke of the devil is going to stop. These things become so predictable a ten year old reading a few history books could figure it out.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 05:26 | 6977381 Ghordius
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"Then there is the surge of sub-nationalism, as in Scotland, Catalonia, Flanders, and Veneto, where peoples seek to disconnect from distant capitals that no longer speak for them, and reconnect with languages, traditions and cultures that give more meaning to their lives than the economics-uber-alles ideology of Frau Angela Merkel. "

LOL. Pat Buchanan, here, does an article where Europe and the Question of the EU "Superstate" is actually just a pretext for taliking about American issues. nothing new about that and the comments reflect this

as a reminder, cooparation has many forms. whatever happens to "the EU" or the eur... they are only tools of cooperations. means, not ends

but Patrick, on one thing I have to protest, vehemently. There Is No Such Thing As Sub-Nationalism

Scotland is a fully recognized Nation, for example. The whole reason why the UK is called the United Kingdom is that it's a multi-national construct... too

call it empire, call it united kingdom, call it supra-national construct, deep down, the UK is not that differently from what the EU "superstate" could become

Catalonia is too a Nation. It used to be a separate kingdom, it has an own language, for criminy. Again, the Kingdom of Spain is a multi-national construct... too

in that, not very different from what the Austro-Hungarian Empire was, which contained some twenty different Nations

a Nation is a Nation, a State is a State and a Sovereign is a Sovereign. You need to be keenly aware of the definitions of those words if you want to discuss seriously european affairs

those words aren't freely interchangeble

Germany, for example, is a Federation of semi-sovereign states (while it is regarded as one Nation). and more federal then the US, in this

for example the UK is a Sovereign Country, made up of four different Nations. compare to the EU, which is not Sovereign, and is not a Country, and not a Nation, and not a Federation, but a cooperative construct of sovereigns, roughly a prototype Confederation of sovereigns

so dear Patrick Buchanan, I repeat my core reply: There Is No Such Thing As Sub-Nationalism. Not in Europe, at least. Perhaps your country is having a sub-nationalist tendency? Possibly, can't judge from here

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 06:41 | 6977461 Escapedgoat
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"for example the UK is a Sovereign Country, made up of four different Nations. compare to the EU, which is not Sovereign, and is not a Country, and not a Nation, and not a Federation, but a cooperative construct of sovereigns, roughly a prototype Confederation of sovereigns"

 

Greece, Cyprus, Spain, Portugal and Ireland Are NOT SOVEREIGN  But Colonies to the Eurocrats.

DUE to the FIAT toilet paper DEBT with NO one to Back it Up.

Thats why they need to hang, in the neaest Lamp posts. All the Politicoes and Banksters.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 07:40 | 6977509 Ghordius
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bullshit. only because a sovereign does not do what you expect it to do is actually a kind of proof of independence... from you, for starters

who are those "Eurocrats", btw? the EU Council? the elected EU Parliament? the Commission they jointly appoint? Germany? Germany & France?

did you actually notice that an awful lot of Greeks would not mind to trade in their sovereignty for more support? that the current Greek government went a bit in that direction... and was rebuffed?

again: learn the definition of those words. a sovereign is not something all-powerful, with some few exceptions in time to this rule. sovereigns usually... face constraints, too. like from... reality

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 15:16 | 6979093 Raging Debate
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Ghordius - I agree with you about definitions but governments selling citizens down the river is a very old story, you are acting like the people really had a lot of choice. If you invite guests to a debt party they are going to show up, that is where central bankers are supposed to take away the punch bowl, not spike it with grenade juice.

There was arguments from the former German PM against currency leading the way for an EU. Bankers create debt, its what they do. You dont let them run your country or world, they drive it into the ditch. 

 

 As for Americans, Trump is a product of fierce nationalism. Thats because this giant lie that free trade deals are awsome for the general public. Or immigration. At the core as always its a labor issue, cost pushing which is simply robbery.

And the inevitble result is implosion. This nasty cycle will affect every family on earth, only deluded sociopaths think its always going to be someone elses problem. 

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 14:14 | 6978885 messystateofaffairs
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Your argument would be clearer if you gave your definition of Nation, State, and Sovereign.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 06:45 | 6977467 Kirk2NCC1701
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What "Patriots" does he speak of?  Here in the US, being a Patriot is something you do in the privacy of your mouse and keyboard.

Anything more is scary and suspect at best.

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 07:42 | 6977512 Ghordius
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I am a Patriot. And I thought that Pat Buchanan was talking about me and my fellow Patriots in Europe. While not understanding our issues, but that's beside the point

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 15:26 | 6979126 Raging Debate
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Ghordius - The problems are the same in both places that is what Buchanan said. Calling a spade a spade is not insulting your culture or do you disagree that the problems of labor cost pushing are not happening in Europe?

If the people have no say because two unelected supra national entities which are the BIS and CFR rule the world, that is monarchy. There are no real Republics left. They have all been destroyed. 

If you look at voting numbers in the US they have dropped far down. And I bet even if 70% voted for Trump these two entities will just cheat and say Hillary won by 1% margin. 

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 08:00 | 6977533 ---------
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"United States of Europe dies, and with it the EU."

it dont dies   it is turned muslime

and european union is already halfway eurabistan union

 

the holy snackbar is growing everyday

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 09:49 | 6977773 nevertheless
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Here is a great story about Washington, and the power of Jewish money. What happens when you step out of line, they frame you for rape. 

Remember Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the former head of the IMF? I remember when I first heard the rape charges, looking at the guy, and how the media was totally convicting him, without any hint of innocent until proven guilty, like he was being framed. FYI the charges were later dropped, but don't look for the media to inform you of that, this was a zionist hit, to shut up a man who had diverted from their script. 

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2015/12/30/christine-lagarde-takes...

The point is, we may hate our elected officials, but the zionists have them at checkmate: They bribe them with money and power (that's the upside), and if you don't do as they say, they can destroy you, or even trump up charges to get you locked up. We have to be a lot smarter and a lot more cynical. 

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 15:36 | 6979161 Raging Debate
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Nevertheless - I agree with your opinion but if you are going to oppose a rscket prepare to pay a price. That even happens at a local level with little business guys. Just make sure you look in the mirror before holding to account, then at least some will notice a standard to follow. I observe that you can speak out but not while at your post in this system. 

Look at Spitzer. Keep your dick in your pants if married and your attempting reform. That isnt like its rocket science man. 

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 11:28 | 6978114 FORCE
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A Very good novel on this subject;TWILIGHTS LAST GLEAMING by J M GREER

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 14:26 | 6978953 4thHorseman
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It is most certainly... It's a sinking ship!

Those who attend the
Council on Foreign Relations
The Builderberg Group
and the Trilateral Commission are behind it all.

If the west is to be saved, all members must be........

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 11:57 | 6985197 Dr_Snooz
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Disintegrating yes, but that's only part of it. Western civilization is collapsing. Like every other civilization in history, we've become decadent and weak. Like every other civilization in history, we've allowed our women to run everything, our men to pretend they are women, our daughers to play the harlot and sodomy to parade itself openly through the streets. We've lost our sense of morality, so every perversion is considered normal. Hedonism is the highest public good. We slaughter our unborn, deliver the vulnerable over to the predation of the powerful and wage ceaseless warfare to no purpose.

If we cannot recollect our moral conscience, it is over for us.

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