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In Latest NSA Spying Scandal, World Learns Obama Lied Again; Congress Furious it Was Spied On
In January 2014, during the scandalous aftermath of Edward Snowden's NSA snooping revelations, one which revealed the US had been spying on its closest allies for years, Obama banned U.S. eavesdropping on leaders of close friends and allies and promised he would begin reining in the vast collection of Americans' phone data in a series of limited reforms.
Below are the key highlights from his January 17, 2014 speech:
Our capabilities help protect not only our nation, but our friends and our allies, as well. But our efforts will only be effective if ordinary citizens in other countries have confidence that the United States respects their privacy, too. And the leaders of our close friends and allies deserve to know that if I want to know what they think about an issue, I’ll pick up the phone and call them, rather than turning to surveillance. In other words, just as we balance security and privacy at home, our global leadership demands that we balance our security requirements against our need to maintain the trust and cooperation among people and leaders around the world.
The bottom line is that people around the world, regardless of their nationality, should know that the United States is not spying on ordinary people who don’t threaten our national security, and that we take their privacy concerns into account in our policies and procedures. This applies to foreign leaders as well.
The president lied, and the privacy concerns of "people around the world" have clearly never once been taken into account in Obama's policies and procedures.
Just three days prior, on January 14 2014, Vermont Senator and current Democratic presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders had written an email to then NSA Chief Keith Alexander asking if the NSA has or is currently spying "on members of Congress or other American elected officials." The letter went on to define spying as including "gathering metadata on calls made from official or personal phones, content from websites visited or emails sent, or collecting any other data from a third party not made available to the general public in the regular course of business."
The response: the National Security Agency's director, responding to questions from independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, says the government is not spying on Congress.... "Nothing NSA does can fairly be characterized as 'spying on members of Congress or other American elected officials." Alexander wrote in the letter, dated Friday and released Tuesday.
The former NSA head also lied.
We know this because in the latest WSJ report on the NSA's spying scandal from this evening, we find that even though Obama announced two years he would curtail eavesdropping on friendly heads of state, the spying continues and "behind the scenes, the White House decided to keep certain allies under close watch. Topping the list was Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu."
The spying, or rather counterespionage, was in order to facilitate the US-Iran nuclear negotiations and deal which took place this summer over Netanyahu's firm objection to scuttle any lifting of the Iran embargo (an embargo which Iran had skirted for years by importing billions of dollars worth of gold from Turkey via Dubai).
That in itself would not be quite so scandalous considering the frosty diplomatic relations between the two nations in recent years, if it didn't also involve the direct and indirect spying by the NSA and the executive branch, on members of Congress.
The National Security Agency’s targeting of Israeli leaders and officials also swept up the contents of some of their private conversations with U.S. lawmakers and American-Jewish groups. That raised fears—an “Oh-s— moment,” one senior U.S. official said—that the executive branch would be accused of spying on Congress.
White House officials believed the intercepted information could be valuable to counter Mr. Netanyahu’s campaign. They also recognized that asking for it was politically risky. So, wary of a paper trail stemming from a request, the White House let the NSA decide what to share and what to withhold, officials said. “We didn’t say, ‘Do it,’ ” a senior U.S. official said. “We didn’t say, ‘Don’t do it.’ ”
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The NSA reports allowed administration officials to peer inside Israeli efforts to turn Congress against the deal. Mr. Dermer was described as coaching unnamed U.S. organizations—which officials could tell from the context were Jewish-American groups—on lines of argument to use with lawmakers, and Israeli officials were reported pressing lawmakers to oppose the deal.
Which explains why for the past two years the Obama administration, which knew this moment was inevitable, has been maintaining an attitude of abject incompetence, claiming it had no idea anything like this happened. In fact, as the Bezos Post reported in late 2013, "Obama didn’t know about surveillance of U.S.-allied world leaders until summer" of 2013. That too was a lie. Quote the WSJ:
After Mr. Obama’s 2008 presidential election, U.S. intelligence officials gave his national-security team a one-page questionnaire on priorities. Included on the form was a box directing intelligence agencies to focus on “leadership intentions,” a category that relies on electronic spying to monitor world leaders. The NSA was so proficient at monitoring heads of state that it was common for the agency to deliver a visiting leader’s talking points to the president in advance. “Who’s going to look at that box and say, ‘No, I don’t want to know what world leaders are saying,’ ” a former Obama administration official said.
There is much more in the full WSJ article, but here are the salient points: Obama lied, again, and despite profuse promises that the NSA's espionage machinery would be limited, nothing changed. It is safe to assume that nothing has changed to this day despite further lies from the administration to the contrary.
One thing that is different this time, however, from all previous administration lies is that now Congress may have no choice but to retaliate against the executive branch's illegal snooping. Ironically, none other than Former Chairman House Intelligence Committee, Pete Hoekstra, a person who had been most vocal in his support of the NSA's spying on the American people, is most appalled as his recent tweet reveals.
NSA and Obama officials need to be investigated and prosecuted if any truth to WSJ reports. NSA loses all credibility. Scary.
— Pete Hoekstra (@petehoekstra) December 30, 2015
As for the official White House National Security Council, the response is "no comment":
"We are not going to comment on any specific alleged intelligence activities," says @NSCPress in response to @wsj report on surveillance.
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) December 30, 2015
This may well be because Obama was on the golf course in Hawaii when the WSJ article hit.
Finally, while all of the above is at this point largely expected if anything, what is surprising is that as the WSJ notes, among the "allies" excluded from the protected list, were "Recep Tayyip Erdogan, president of NATO ally Turkey, which allowed the NSA to spy on their communications at the discretion of top officials."
In other words the Obama administration has been fully aware Turkey has been providing not only training, weapons and supplies to ISIS, it is also Turkey, and especially people from Erdogan's own family, who served as the source of financial support for the CIA-created Islamic State, whose only purpose from the beginning was to topple Bashar al Assad.
Actually scratch that: did we say "surprising"? We meant precisely the opposite.
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When your every word is a lie you dont think lying matters. That is Dear Leader
And Congress will do about this exactly what it has been doing over the past couple decades. Abosutley nothing....
The leadership has proven that it is insane. We need to disband the entire fucking system and start again.
Didn't they used to jail people for lying to Congress? I mean, what was the Nixon impeachment all about, anyway? And then when they tried to impeach Clinton? Wasn't that for lying to Congress?
Why isn't Alexander in jail?
(Disregarding the WH for now.)
There's .gov employee, and then there's the little people.
Harvard retard apointment.
" Most admired liar. "
Folks, I am booking speaking engagements. Reach out to my people if interested!
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What is the problem? Lies from US government is expected behaviour, Obama behaves expectedly. This adhesion to expected behaviour credibilizes global stability as it lends predictatability to US actions.
Scandalous is behaviour Putin. He makes agreements and with agreements abides. He tells something and it later shows as truthful. Worst aspect is Putin words and actions correspond highly. This does not match picture painted by western media, mismatch confusion causes and leads to degenerescence global stability. Putin clearly danger to humanity.
Cunning plan of trolling with truth can only be work of ......... Sneaky Putin©.
Its simple: The spying isnt about terrorism, its about blackmail and espionage.
Espionage, yes. Congressmen were caught up when they were dealing with Israel. Imagine the response if you replaced "Israel" with "Iran", or any other muzzie nation.
Hate to say it, but this is a Good Thing. I'm glad they got them, dealing with the israelites. Motherfuckers need to hang. Foreign countries should not be dealing with congressmen, and vice versa. This is treason.
That's the only reason the Israeli-firster WSJ reported it at all, Socratic Dog. Imagine the outrage of the tribesters that anyone would dare snoop on them colluding with their little bitches in the U.S. Congress. And exactly as you said, they wouldn't give a crap if the 'scandal' was about the NSA snooping on Iran (or Iraq, or Turkey, or any other stooge nation or imperial conquest).
The really sad part about this is that the NSA Stazi, with all their snooping, still apparently is unable to identify the multiple acts of treason, acts of terrorism or actions on behalf of a foreign agent compromising U.S. national security that are REGULARLY committed by the dual-citizen, traitorous members of the U.S. congress. What good does it do to fund the Stazi when they can't seem to find the Congressional criminals under their own noses... unless the NSA is actually acting on behalf of a foreign agent compromising U.S. national security themselves.
Maybe we should hire someone to spy on the treasonous fucks in the NSA?
For NSA's sake, release the contents of their communications already....if indeed the agency is worth the tax money.
Congress Furious it Was Spied On
Only one thing to do now......Paul Ryan needs to commit Jihad.
PS.....love the beard bitch.
lol.
#BoehnersBeard
You mean they're not just spying on the little people??
This is an outrage!!!
Sibel Edmonds put it in peoples face that certain congressmen were traitors, they gagged her. Banana Republic.
regarding Paul Ryan. That backstabbing little bitch wont do a damn thing about this. He might hold a breakfast meeting with Pelosi and decide to initiate new 'guidelines', but still wont do anything for fear of becoming unpopular in the eltist crowd.
Remember the Jane Harman incident?
Jane Harman and Israeli Spyinghttp://www.counterpunch.org/2012/11/14/jane-harmon-and-israeli-spying/
It is astounding to find that one of the handful of prospects being floated to become CIA director following the fall of General David Petraeus is a person reportedly implicated in a 2005 Israeli spy scandal.
CNN, Politico, and others have all listed former Congresswoman Jane Harman as a potential new CIA head. Oddly, however, none have mentioned reports in 2006 and again in 2009 that an NSA wiretap in 2005 had picked up Harman promising a suspected Israeli agent that she would aid people indicted for espionage on behalf of Israel.
According to reports, Harman allegedly told the Israeli agent that she would lobby the Justice Department to reduce espionage-related charges against two top officials for the powerful Israel lobby organization, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).
In return, the suspected Israeli agent (who may have been a dual-citizen American) reportedly pledged to help lobby for Harman to become chair of the House Intelligence Committee. Harman was already the ranking Democrat on the committee.
I also recall the Verint/Amdocs incident:
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/ketcham.php
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Then they were investigated and like the banks, found they did nothing wrong... Which by now we ALL KNOW is bullshit.
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/05/06/us/israeli-spy-inquiry-finds-nothing-o...
Not to disagree -- but simply to say -- perhaps ALL the NSA isn't as co-opted and compromised as in the past. Over the past few years one can sense a general awakening. The worm has turned. If for no other reason than personal survival. Why continue to carry water for ZIOs, if ones own survival is at risk. Sure. Most have been blackmailed and co-opted. But once the tipping point is breached. The flood-gates open.
When the WSJ has Isreal in the lede as being "nabbed" -- it means something BIG is unraveling. They always tip their hand. And play BOTH sides. Finger in the wind. That wind is shifting ALOT these days.
List of Politicians with Israeli Dual Citizenship
https://www.facebook.com/notes/we-are-all-vittorio-arrigoni/list-of-poli...
How much you want to bet that in response to this they add intense surveillance to the WSJ staff among others in the media? Knowing everyone's secrets is now an added right to being President just like Air Force One.
SHTF moment
Nothing happens
How can you expect US government to respect 'people around the world' if it doesn't regard them as proper human? And according to ZH even most of the US population is treated as a herd of voting livestock.
"policies and procedures" ha!
these are nothing more than weasel words. They are not laws or regulations or ammendments just a guide to try to follow.
Corporations use them, police use them, political offices use them but they mean absolutely nothing a mere attempt for stearing in some direction. Ha!
Candid, free-speaking Trump is so wildly popular because Obama is a perpetuallly habitually lying piece of shit propagandist.
And that's his good point.
Good ol' bathhouse Barry, opening his lying liar hole again.
Noting will change
Obama, Bush, Trump, they're all the same.
Time for a reset
Time for a reset
Bernie Sanders!!! Who's up for a little gang rape?
http://nypost.com/2015/06/05/bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy-essay-reveals-left-wing-hypocrisy/
Robot for president 2016.
This planet if filled with with empires of lies.
So sad we allow it.
Basically we live in a sort of collective insanity. A place where truth is not an issue and illusions are what matters as control mechanisms. So the many illusions have replaced any reality. A matrix of lies , distortions, and manipulations, spoon fed to the public daily or force fed as necessary !
You don't jail the emperor.
"National security," in this context is anything that substantially challenges the current order.
When this piece of shit has the dirt on you, he can use it against you! Why do you think he gets everything he wants? You will vote this way or I will tell everyone what you have been doing behind closed doors. Plain and simple, blackmail. Now you get it Congress? Go ahead and vote for more spying on the Murican populas! You did not think it would be you being spyed upon? You stupid fucks! Reep what you have sewn!
But when you've used their dirt against them and then THEY get dirt on you they will use it with relish. This could be the start of a real storm against the Whitehouse. The danger is that the Kenyan Guy is an expert at creating diversions. Plans for false flag events are stored in the top drawer of his desk ready to be dusted off when needed. It won't be an ordinary cop-shoots-unarmed-inner-city-youth diversion this time.
No, he's usually poisoned or stabbed to death by his own guards. Ask JFK about that one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZGoeT2et1M
Because he didn't do anything REALLY bad, like the truly evil . . . Mark McGuire?
At least old Ronnie admitted to lying about the Iran Contra scandal. But that was a long time ago. Things have changed. Sociopaths rule
with a fair amount of psychopaths as well
We should just change the word 'lying' to 'congressing'. It would be easier.
"We congressed to some folks" you know, that kind of thing.
1 Nixon resigned so that he wouldn't be impeached.
2 Clinton was impeached, Clinton was not convicted by the Senate. (Clinton did feel the need to bribe Senators. See Senator John Glenn oldest man in space.)
3 Clinton committed perjury (proven and admitted; had to give up law license and pay a fine) but wasn't for lying to Congress.
@tmoseley
say it again, and again, and again
"The leadership has proven that it is insane. We need to disband the entire fucking system and start again."
Bring the whole fucking rotten, corrupt, lying, system down.
@tmoseley
Millions will die.
Better to die trying than... sitting on their fat arses...
which is where most will perish.
As their brains have rotted, and vessel now empty.
After seven years one can count on one hand the # of times Obama hasn't lied.
" I am not a crook. "
Washington DC is a cancer upon our nation.
the whole world, ex Israel.
Obama spying on Netanyahu? LMAO You got it bass ackwards. Who do you really think has the stroke here?
You got that right!
Keep pulling apart the threads... follow the progression up to a climax on 911... and beyond to this day in the ME.
Fox Banned News 9-11 The Israeli Connection, Mossad, AIPAC, Art Students Spy Ringhttp://trutube.tv/Fox-Banned-News-9-11-The-Israeli-Connection-Mossad-AIP...
Congress is a hired bitch, it only cares for the payday.
haha screw you CONgress....btw please pass the gun ban.
How the hell can you keep your insane agenda alive if you don't have the ability to get the dope on SC Justices and Congressmen, and get them to parrot your executive desires?
Gonna be fun when a real patriot uses the Obama precedent and takes advantage of these powers......
Or not.
When a man or woman of integrity gets elected to the White House and refuses to take advantage of the powers used by every previous president.... who are we kidding.
JFK tried that--and TPTB were not amused.
No lie lives forever....
True....but it can outlive you.
I wasn't alive in 1913....but if I was I would have done my best to nuke Jekyll Island.
Same thing happened at work tonight. Everyone is full of shit until they bleed out
You guys do not get it. he said the truth. They will spy on anyone in the world, and because they were speid on they automatically become a threat to national security. So you see, they only spy on people who are a threat to national security; anyone they damn please.
The pathological lying fudgepacker needs its progressive liberal democrap lips & vocal cords epoxied together. There. Fixed it. Wutta despicable turd. What's more despicable is the lame do nothing congress enables its sociopathic behavior as do the voting sheeple.
"That is Dear Leader"
and my adulterous exwife.
There must be a lot of key military on Trump's side - The Clinton / Bush Establishment Party must be dismembered
i think i know what you getting at there, but go ahead and make yourself clear
Trump has nobody, that is his big problem. If elected he doesn't even know who he can trust or hire.
Yes he does. He will surprise you.
I hope that is true.
My guess is there are alot alot of military who dislike Barry since the number of high level resignations under him has hit a record high. The completely chaotic mishandling of this entire ME mess shows many incompetent people have moved up the ranks to top positions in what can only be described as proof of the Peter Principle.
A good example is the $500 million that resulted in only 5-10 trained Syrian rebels. Lots of people pocketed loot along the way. No wonder DC RE prices are sky high.
His first hire needs to be a hangman, secretary of state a distant second. Now THAT would get the message across....
Given his TV catch phrase ("you're fired!"), it shouldn't matter. 90% of government employees do absolutely nothing, and another 5% tend to work against the US citizenry.
And we already know we can't trust James Clapper -- because he (Clapper) told us so, under oath.
Trump should start his term with "30 days of pink slips", and put all those unelected shits in their place. Fire at least 30% of the federal bureaucracy in 30 days, and promise to fire more by the end of the first year. Make the criminal bureaucrats pee their pants, every last corrupt one of them.
And to head off your next objection: it really doesn't matter who he fires. In most cases, he needs to fire whole agencies.
The idea that taxpayers work 45 years (age 20 to age 65, if not longer), while our public servants cop out after 20 years of screwing us??? Fuck them. You worked less than half a career, you don't get a full pension. Shove your fraudulent union contracts where the sun doesn't shine.
If Trump does nothing more than cut the federal bureaucracy down to size, he will be revered as the best US president of the last 50 years, by a very very very big margin.
Talked to enough govt. people who are forced to retire before 55. Collect the benefits, then go into the private sector to consult their old position making more money. Somehow this is cheaper I am told over and over. Double dip plus benefits.
Gubmint; Ctrl-Alt-Del.
Gary Busey and Denis Rodman aren't nobody.
Before people go ahead and downvote Chris Dakota's comment read Paul Craig Robert's recent article "Donald Trump: an Evaluation" in which PCR says exactly that.
i doubt trump is as antiestablishment as so many here seem to think. i await being pleasantly surprixed.
ron paul got no publicity; bernie gets little. trump gets nothing but, even if much of it is seemingly oppositional.
we probably will see.
The congress voted for spying on all Americans, and now they are complaining? WTF.
No doubt! I feel sorry for those Congress-Critters, every day they keep breathing, but nobody will put them out of their misery.
When I approved of Obama spying on his enemies I didn't think he meant me
When I approved of Obama soaking the rich to pay for health care I didn't think he meant me
When I approved of slamming enemies of the state in prison without due process, waterboarding, torture, I didn't think they meant me
When I approved of denying guns to potential troublemakers I didn't think they meant me
When I approved of taking away the rights of people the government doesn't like I didn't think they meant me.
Guess what, it's not up to you. It's not your call. Those decisions are made by the officials who wield the real power - the power you gave them.
Congress' problem is, they think they are members of the global elite.
Fail. Nearly all members of Congress have never even MET a real member of the global elite.
But the Congress took the campaign contributions..
Obama" never let the truth get in the way of a good story"
catch Ya , in London Raymond?
BTW, I play the Tenor Saxophone... ;-)
Obamanochio strikes again! Reggie says "it's gotten so long, I have splinters in my spinchter..."
Boehner was spied on?? Ryan, perhaps?
Why would it matter?
Or Chief Justice Roberts. . . Gotta get some dirt for when you need that critical 'swing vote' for a sweeping piece of tyranny.
Yep. Those two Irish kids Roberts adopted "off the books" are responsible for the Obamacare decision.
They spy, not because of the truth which they might discover, but for the ability to falsely claim the nefarious motives of those they wish to destroy.
If everyone had the capability to spy on anyone, anywhere, there would be no need for the NSA or the media. What a savings and a relief.
Someone must need protection. But the same could go for guns as well.
Now where is that transparency policy that was promised?
of course obama is a liar does that surprise anyone. he's been a liar since the moment he first addressed the media as a candidate. he lied from the moment he was born and he will iie until the day he dies.
“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
Marcus Tullius Cicero
Roman philosopher, politician, lawyer, orator, political theorist, consul and constitutionalist.
Born: January 3, 107 BC, Arpinum, Rome -- Assassinated: December 7, 43 BC, Formia, Italy
I hope you recognize him.
Everything about Sunni Muslim, Indonesian citizen, Muslim Brotherhood member and the creator of ISIS and ISIS' biggest supporter, President of the United States of America Barrack Hussein Obama are lies. Sharia law allows Barrack Hussein Obama to lie to American infidels as much as he wants to achieve his goals of weakening the United States and strengthening Muslim Brotherhood affiliated organizations such as Al Qaeda and ISIS. The Main Stream Media Corporate Oligopoly traitors unfailingly, unhesitatingly and unquestioningly support all of Barrack Hussein Obama's policies against the American People.
Break it down?
ones & zeros
Classic "reverse configuration"
Bad Guy <> Good Guy, scenario.
Hugo Montenegro, Bitchez
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Its called Taqiyya. The practice of Deception to further the ideology or Islam. http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war
Foxmuldar..all religions, cults and mlms have this. Nothing special to Islam.
Kol nidre
Corinthians 9:19-23
Fake it till you make it.
Corinthians 9:19-23??
Boy, that's a stretch. Paul is talking about basic sales strategy; you begin the sale by meeting people on their own ground and showing respect for their current situation.
Islam takes the opposite point of view; the infidel is a sub-human that deserves no respect. Lies, deceit, or the sword are all tools in the arsenal to force the infidel to submit, or die.
I don't believe for one minute he is President of The united States of America. He is the President and CEO of the UNITED STATES, INC. If you don't know the difference you better start doing your homework. One is a group of independent nations that formed a compact for mutual benefit, an impartial judge of disputes between those nations esp. in the regulation of interstate and international commerce and to provide for the defense of the states United.
One is a Constitutional Lawful group of Nations. The other is a statutory commercial corporation.
see -> http://famguardian.org/subjects/Taxes/ChallJurisdiction/Definitions/free...
ALSO \http://famguardian.org/taxfreedom/History/LegalProf/1999-DefUSRemoved.ht...
" If the average American understood that there are actually THREE independent definitions for the term “United States” as ruled by the united states supreme Court in Hooven & Allison Co. v. Evatt, 324 U.S. 652 (1945), then a lot more people we believe would better understand the very limited application of the federal and state income tax laws. If they understood that the term used in the Internal Revenue Code for “United States” actually means the District of Columbia, then they would understand that they are NOT residents of the [federal] United States**, but instead are residents of the United States of America. "
Good post man, Also... Title 28 U.S Code 3002 (15) (a) (b) (c) 15 (United States) means "a federal corporation" top/down all owned by most presumably the International Central Bankers and further down the list the Virginia Company or Rothschild. The forces that you are not interested are interested in you, capital is power and the people hold what fertilizes it. Once you control the people, you control capital and with the laws placed by the plantation owners looks as if they already possess this power. Hang the bankers! Treason is crime and punishable by death. Install a system of horizontal networks, only workers who collaborate to strengthen domestic economy. COG is a cancer, end it.
Who downvoted that...?
As incredolous as it may seem I suspect it to be the truth. Gregga777 just forgot to mention the evil Saudi connection. I say we have just had about enough of´em. Those obscene bedouins. Saudi would be a very easy target to clean up. Take out their infrastructure and then go bedouin-plinking. There´s no way to hide in the desert.
Kick their ass and take their gas.
And yes we will have endless rants about the real masters , the ZIO connection , but in the meantime - just get going with the clean-up. Russia and shale can easily step in and make up the short-fall.
Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Finally someone is telling us what some of us have already know for a long time. Obama has been helping ISIS and really doesn't want its defeat. ISIS is no different then the Muslim brotherhood whom Obama helped gain power in Egypt and when they were ousted by the military and Morsi took control, Obama was furious. If Congress had the balls, they would be sending the CIA to Hawaii to arrest that black Muslim SOB. But we all know they don't have the balls so this too will be shoved under the rug by the media but damn isn't this big news for Trump. Now he's got something even bigger to use against Hillary since Hillary is as guilty as Obama. Both should be dragged out and strung up on the nearest tree if any is available on that Golf course where Obama will claim he first found out about all of this.
Obama is a puppet and the cia has been directly arming and assisting isis over the protests of the us military.
If anything, us special forces should be arresting all of those responsible.
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/12/how-a-critic-of-hershs-new-piece-fa...
Particularly as it is entirely possible us personnel may be killed by those weapons.
Given that Obama IS CIA and CIA IS ISIS, I don't grasp how your statements make sense.
This isn't a problem of Obama vs Hillary vs Jeb or Shrub, the is a problem of Israeli-Neocons against humanity. Not all of humanity, of course, we aren't that clever, but certainly a big part of us.
That is the division you need to decide what side you are on. And know what? Your anti-Muslim idiocy biases you to the Israeli-Neocon side. Don't go there, the currently-ruling Israelis will treat you a lot worse than most of the Muslims in the world, altho the Haaretz crowd will get that fixed about the time we get them out of power here.
Don't say we didn't warn you.
This conspiracy goes back far further than the State of Israel. It goes far further back than the Rothchild Banking clan or ancient Judea. It is a continuum of behind the curtain mind control and slavery of all the sheep it can gather into the pen. It goes back to at least ancient Babylon. Everyone should read the book or even watch the movie Manchurian Candidate as it accurately portrays induced mind control illusion to mask reality that is right infront of your uncomprehending eyes. It is a long process of delusion that keeps you from knowing the truth. It has been done continuously since before the written word to the present.
At least the people that follow ZH are somewhat awake. The rest of the world, not much.
Kinda almost beyond belief. Its one hellofa thing to grok.
What you are saying makes no sense to me. If Israel or Zionists "control" the CIA and/or Obama, why on earth would the guy need to spy on Israel's communications with members of Congress? He wouldn't. He'd be privy to them by virtue of that relationship.
You can't have it both ways.
People think there's a Jew or a Zionist or an Israeli under every rock and when they are confonted with evidence like Obama's ludicrous agreement with Iran by which we give them $150 BILLION, the equivalent of $8 TRILLION to our economy, they have nothing to say. It's just a blank stare at that point. The whole "Jews control our government" premise just evaporates.
Even one who cheats in a poker game may not end up the winner.
With all due respect..It was Irans money to begin with which I am sure gave the banks some nice collateral to make loans and other profits..I think the old formula was 10 dollars for every one on deposit. that was decades ago..so its probably more.
Fuck the Iranians. We should keep their money. We sure could use it!
Fuck the Iranians. We should keep their money. We sure could use it!
A ,lousy 150B?.Hell Obama goes through that in one hour.
It's fairly safe to say that "Mr. President" was, or still is, a nominal Sunni Muslim.
My understaning that Indonesian ID requires that each resident have a religion-of-record, and there are only a limited number of options: Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Protestant, Catholic and a few others. The odds that Barry's parent/guardian checked any box other than "Muslim" appear to be very low.
Still, to borrow a thought from the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, "people like Obama don't do religion" - at all.
There's a reason Fuckbama has not been elminated.
Many reasons the fucker walks around without a care in the world, not worried that his head will get blown off his fucked up body.
It AIN'T Fuckbama. The prick's a puppet.
It's who has got the fucks BACK. THAT'S the fuckers that need to get machine gunned.
There's absolutely nothing wrong with spying on foreign governments or foreigners. They do it to us, we do it to them, and it would be dangerously naive to pretend this won't always be the case. But two things crossed the line here: first, obviously, is spying on members of Congress, second, and arguably more obscene, is spying on them not for national defense purposes but for an advantage in domestic political strategy.
Spying for national defense purposes doesn't just mean spying on a foreign military or executive branch - there's plenty of info pertaining to that general goal that can come from the realm of business, tech, finance, etc, so it's completely legitimate to target those interests. Sort of like how Reagan knew the defense arms race would bankrupt the USSR so we could win without firing a shot. So there's nothing wrong with vacuuming up info from Israel and others that may not relate directly to defense.
But in this case, it was for what was largely a vain, "legacy" piece of legislation. The "enemy" that Obama was targeting was domestic elected representatives who just disagreed with him. And don't think this is the first time Obama has done this.
Thank God it is only Obama. Oh, if it had been a general capability or activity of all Presidents, I would have been so upset. Yes, knowing it was just Obama, and how very awful that man is, make all the difference to my mental calm.
Thank you for that enlightenment. So terrible that it is not the first time Obama has done it. You must be keeping up.
I would suggest that it is different to spy on ones enemies versus ones allies.
What this points out is not so much a lack of judgement but an admission that we have no allies.
I get it, So spying on everyone and cheating everyone, including extorsion of everyone is all fair, heck even murder is ok(NDAA). So it's a free for all... Lets make the purge legal then. No wonder this Fn planet is so fucked up. Nothing but greed, corruption and murder. Not a moral left anywhere.
Listen for the irony when Congress claims their rights were violated..
Let me be the 1 millionth person to say,
"I am shocked, shocked to hear there has been spying going on in this house. (Here's those surveillance reports you asked for...)
Are these politicians so dense that they don't realize that they are owned? If Obama steps out of line his Zionist masters will pull his card too. The best part of all of this is that these people are just tools and they will be left out to dry when TSHTF. They will be the scapegoats providing a buffer for the real power.
Just like the classic scene of the big sheep herding the smaller ones off of the cliff and then someone shows up and throws the big sheep over. Outside of the Bush family most of these people are nothing and yet they think that they are safe within the fold as if the system has some type of loyalty to publicly displayed puppets. That part should be entertaining.
Being owned works for many modern species. Elephants and lions and tigers no doubt wish they were owned.
Fuck the NSA. And fuck this .gov.
Surely, the Honorable Bernie Sanders doesn't think that we have two different sets of Law in this Great Nation. WTF was he thinking? He sounds like some paranoid conspiracy theorist.
THANK GOD THIS OBAMA GUY BELONGS TO THE USA. I know we have our problems with the political help in our country but OBAMA is a real beauty.
I can't understand why he's still in office. He must be intelligent or the masses are complete simpletons. PLease wake up and start crowing dear people of the USA or you'll pay dearly in the days ahead. You have what it takes to make a difference but only if you have the will power to throw all that crap out of the White House, congress and the senate.
Good Luck!!
'cos they re-elected a Nobel Peace prize winner !
And to live up to that renown Obama now ONLY plays golf!
Keep it up.
He'll be bombimg your country next.
Anyone in the world that believes one utterance from POTUS has their head straight up their ass. Yet our fifth estate elite continues to gloify him as if he was some messaiah. I'm old enough to remember Nurenburg trials when all the Hitler loving media moguls got their come-uppance. Something the NYT,WP, Atlantic Monthly etc and various Obama henchmen should keep in mind. You're not going to get away with all the treasonable acts you've reined on the American public.
Obama.
Every word out of his mouth is either an exagerration or an outright lie.
Despectible dregs of humanity. Met people like him too many times.
"despectible" is a novelty.
I must remember it. Let me try :
"Donald Trump is more respectable when sober in private and more despectible when in front of MSM."
Howzzat? --I know, I know, its more despicable but the other is moar sexy !
And Donald loves to schlong the MSM !
donald doesn't drink alcohol, smoke, or do other drugs.
guess what other nationalist demagogue abided by same rules...
hint: begins with a HIT and ends with a LER
We're BLACKMAILING some folks!
I'd sure like to know how they blackmailed Chief Justice Johnny Roberts to vote for ObamaCare and come up with the dopey idea that it was a "tax" when no one, and I mean no one, ever argued that from the trial court, the appellate courts on up to the Supremes. He must have gotten a call in the middle of the night that they'd kill his family or something....................
I'm sure Hitlary knew nothing about any of this stuff.
Hah ha
thats no news
The day cabalA$$Licker speaks truth , that will be some news
Remember a liar can commit any wrong (then lie)
therefore a liar is the most sinful ignoble person
Congress is upset on getting spied upon? Bwhahahah... in the word of Bob Dylan.. "How does it feel?, tp be out on your own?...."
If members of congeress were conspiring with Israel against the U.S.A., Shouldn't they hang?
thank God Russia went back to typewriters.... the only Putin emails Obama can have are the ones I sent saying read ZH
Why is that people are surprised that O LIES? In a psychophats mind, every statement this person makes is perceived TRUTH.
You know what? I don't have a problem with the NSA wiretapping the fuck out of every politician on the planet and making all the data publicly available. As far as I'm concerned every one of them is a criminal until they can prove themselves otherwise by wearing a go-pro on their foreheads for the rest of their careers.
As for the zionists in Israel, take a close look at what is happening in Brazil to learn their tactics in usurping governments around the world. Israel has appointed a West Bank settler, Dani Dayan, as their ambassador to Brazil. Since Israeli settlements are deemed illegal by the international community, Brazil has refused to confirm him as Israel's ambassador. Israel's response was simple: Blackmail.
"(Deputy Foreign Minister), Hotovely then said Israel would continue to press Brasilia through various means, including the Brazilian Jewish community, as well as direct appeals from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is one of the more outspoken defenders of Israel’s settlement-building in the West Bank."
It's simple. If your country does not do what Israel wants, they mobilise the Jewish community which they apparently control to force you to do it. That's a dangerous acknowledgement of Israel's Fifth column because not all jews support Israel and a glaring reflection of Israel's insidious political control of many Western nations.
I wanna see what the NSA folks actually do, to who they do it too and why. Lets just call it a hunch.
Having a "Jewish community" everywhere is like having Wahhabi-funded mosques everywhere. These theocracy sleeper cells are dangerous.
Come back in a nother ten years and rant about those damn settlements...
In fact no one cares. Here in western Europe we will within the next decade see 30 ft. concrete walls ad id-checks and trespasser shot on the spot and the odd survivor shot again.
What has passed in the middle east...I believe it to be more of a history's rinse and repeat cycle and much less caused by any regimes transgressions. What you can observe there is not caused by a clear definining injustice or something like that.
That´s what all those folks ar about.
When they lack jews or christians or other minorities to oppress - they do it to themselves!
I think we just have to
Come back in a nother ten years and rant about those damn settlements...
In fact no one cares. Here in western Europe we will within the next decade see 30 ft. concrete walls ad id-checks and trespasser shot on the spot and the odd survivor shot again.
What has passed in the middle east...I believe it to be more of a history's rinse and repeat cycle and much less caused by any regimes transgressions. What you can observe there is not caused by a clear definining injustice or something like that.
That´s what all those folks ar about.
When they lack jews or christians or other minorities to oppress - they do it to themselves!
I think we just have to
...have to stop all this politizing and ideologizing and simply apply the study of anthropology as the most useful and practical approach to understand that these folks over there just ain´t...western. And will never be.
Check out my 'Oh' face. What can one expect from the politcal party of the ass?
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Dear Jeff Bezos:
If you were serious about rescuing the Washington Post, you should have fired your crack head editor for failing to investigate Obama with the same tenacity WaPo investigated Nixon.
Once he was caught, Nixon had the "grace" (gulp?!?!) to resign. Obama doesn't have as much class. That is really a horrible embarrassing thing for Americans to be realizing as Obama's term ends anyway -- but a lot of the blame falls on an incompetent media that has made excuse after excuse after excuse for Obama.
If Obama were white, media outlets would have run him out of office a long time ago. Shame on WaPo.
Deja vu
Some of NSAs servers are already hosted on amazon..they made a ton of money and NSA gets a ton of info back.
Bezos is an elder of zion. He purchased the Post to serve has handy PR for Amazon as it decimates the US economy.
I see what the slant is her: really just keeping tabs on a certain 'ally' and their bought and paid for "representatives", but they happen to control he media so they can spin it as "lying to congress" when really it's a cover for "he didn't do what we wanted so lets embarrass and point out how bad he is".......... Whatever, I'm not an Obama fan but in this instance - good for them. Probably had to throw the Pollard deal on just to get'em to shut up.
What the King does is none of your concern. You do not question the King. If he lied, he did it for your own good. You do not question the King.