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Government Propagandist-In-Chief Condemns Political Incorrectness As "The Furthest Thing From Brave"

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Some have called Cass Sunstein "America's Goebbels" since he sugggested that the government "formally hire credible private parties to engage in counterspeech," and was engaged by President Obama as 'Information Tzar'. So today's op-ed from the government's propagandist-in-chief, condemning those who choose to push back against political correctness, should be read with a Bernaysian perspective as Sunstein attempts to delegitimize any and every effort to argue against the government's view of the world.

Authored by Cass Sunstein, originally posted at BloombergView,

Among Republicans, it has become politically correct to be politically incorrect. Actually that’s the most politically correct thing that you can possibly be. As soon as you announce that you’re politically incorrect, you’re guaranteed smiles and laughter, and probably thunderous applause. Proudly proclaiming your bravery, you’re pandering to the crowd.

A math-filled new paper, by economists Chia-Hui Chen at Kyoto University and Junichiro Ishida at Osaka University, helps to explain what’s going on. With a careful analysis of incentive structures, they show that if self-interested people want to show that they are independent, their best strategy is to be politically incorrect, and to proclaim loudly that’s what they are being. The trick is that this strategy has nothing at all to do with genuine independence; it’s just a matter of salesmanship, a way to get more popular. 

Focusing on the role of experts rather than politicians, Chen and Ishida note that in many circles, political correctness is “associated with a negative connotation where people who express politically correct views are perceived as manipulative or even dishonest.” For that reason, the unbiased expert has a strong strategic incentive, which is to “deviate from the norm of political correctness” to demonstrate “that he is, at least, not manipulative.” Of course, the deviation is itself a form of manipulation, strategically designed to convince people that the expert can be trusted.

Chen and Ishida’s punchline is that whenever experts care about their reputations, “we cannot regard political incorrectness naively as a sign of blunt honesty since it can easily be an attempt to signal one’s hidden characteristics rather than the true state of the world. ” With respect to Republican candidates, that’s putting it much too gently. It’s the strategic go-to line when things get tough.

Consider the Republican chorus in this light. Donald Trump complains that we have “become so politically correct as a country that we can't even walk. We can't think properly. We can't do anything.” Ted Cruz is more concise: “Political correctness is killing people.” Ben Carson insists that the biggest threat to free speech comes from what he calls the “Political Correctness police,” who have “created fear in a large portion of our population, causing them to remain silent.” Mario Rubio says the “radical left” is using a “politically correct way to advocate Israel’s destruction.”

It’s true that in some left-wing circles, especially on college campuses, political correctness is doing serious damage, because it entrenches a particular ideological orthodoxy (and dampens necessary dissent). In some places, you reject that orthodoxy at your peril. If you say that you oppose affirmative action or an increase in the minimum wage, you incur a kind of reputational tax, and the price may be too high to be worth paying.

But those who deplore political correctness tend to entrench an orthodoxy of their own. And when they do so, they get an immediate reputational subsidy, in the form of a boost in popularity. Chen and Ishida show that when experts or politicians decry political correctness, they are engaging in what economists call “signaling."

One of their signals is that they are willing to poke a finger into the eye of left-wing orthodoxies. By embracing political incorrectness, Republican candidates proclaim that they will not be cowed by, or even compromise with, their political opponents.

The other signal, and the more important one, involves authenticity. If a politician makes some outrageous statement, and follows it with a suggestion that he deplores political correctness, you might well conclude that you can trust what he says. Whatever else they are, those who make outrageous statements seem honest and real rather than programmed or scripted. That’s what a lot of voters are demanding.

But there is a sham here, and it’s ironic. The very Republicans who proclaim their rejection of political correctness have committed themselves to a host of policy judgments that are, in their circles, politically correct. Those judgments help define the prevailing orthodoxy. If you want to survive, you had better not question any of them.

Here are some examples: Gun control is a terrible idea. The Affordable Care Act is a disaster. The United States shouldn’t be doing a lot to combat climate change. Affirmative action is bad. The Barack Obama administration is a dismal failure. Ronald Reagan was great. The minimum wage should not be increased.

None of the leading Republican candidates dares to challenge even one of these statements in public. If Trump, Cruz, Rubio, or Carson supported an aggressive effort to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, or called for a boost in the minimum wage, you might not agree with him -- but you’d know that he really was willing to be independent and to say what he thinks.

Condemning political correctness? That’s telling people just what they want to hear. It’s the furthest thing from brave.

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So now you have been told what to think.

 

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Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:44 | 6981499 VinceFostersGhost
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Send them to Siberia!!!

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:48 | 6981507 Cognitive Dissonance
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Cass Sunstein, easily one if the most dangerous men in America. If anything demonstrates how the two party system is one, it is how Sunstein has been utilized by both.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:51 | 6981527 TeamDepends
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Anyone know where Mr. Sunstein lives? A list of their names and addresses should be published so when the winds of change turn in an ugly direction, we can go and protect these fabulous patriots.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:58 | 6981553 WTFRLY
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He is the highest order of all the yellow-bellied New World Order cunts. Married to Samantha Power, UN Ambassador

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:05 | 6981578 Looney
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Speaking of propaganda….

Here’s an update on the Iran Fires Rockets 1,500 Yards Away From A US Aircraft Carrier” article.

“Iran’s IRGC categorically denies conducting any military exercises, including a launch of any rockets in the Strait of Hormuz, on or around the date claimed by the American propaganda machine.”

Someone is definitely lying here, but who?

An aircraft carrier and its large number of escorts are all equipped with cameras recording their surroundings 24/7 and none of them captured the rocket launch?

Is it possible that the “unnamed U.S. military official” mistook a flare, a single firework, or his own fart for the “firing off several unguided rockets”? ;-)

Looney

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:16 | 6981610 philipat
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A "Progressive" asshole married to a neocon cunt. That must be fun in bed??

But it also illustrates that the far right has gone so far right, and the far left so far left that they are meeting together again on the other side of the sphere? Wouldn't it be nice to get back to somewhere in the middle front where rational debate of real issues that are of importance to the future of the country could actually take place? Just a dream, I know...

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:16 | 6981631 froze25
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Most likely they are both homosexuals and have a marriage of convenience like our president. Of coarse that is if Michele is a actual woman. Any pics of her pregnant? Didn't think so.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:23 | 6981654 philipat
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That seems to be a trend which might apply to our next President also, except of course the pedophile side of the marriage? God forbid. Huma huma huma....

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:31 | 6981697 pods
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By Cass Sunstein, published by BloombergView.

What was it Ann Coulter said?

Oh well can't say anything about that, can we?

pods

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:50 | 6981787 Mike in GA
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Sunstein says 'repubs, entrenched in their own ideology of political correctness' "never compromise with democrats".

Can any remember the last time the democrats compromised to a republican position? 

This isn't a red/blue thing but a keep-em-honest thing.  Like CogD said above, this guy is one of the most dangerous out here.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:55 | 6981812 Save_America1st
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what Cass Fuckstein needs to understand is that there's no such thing as "policital correctness".  What a complete and total bullshit term that is.  There's only truth or lies...fact or fiction.  The only people who can't handle the truth and who want to stifle freedom of speech are these scumbags who prescribe to so-called "policital correctness" as a way of stifling other people's right to speak their minds.  These psycho authoritarian types can't handle the truth...they can't handle being called out for the lying, treasonous scumbags that they are so they've created every devious way imaginable to silence any dissent that opposes them or which might weaken their power and control over the weaker minded sheeple of this world.  Fuckers like him need a solid ass kicking for starters.  And then should be sent to N. Korea for the rest of their miserable lives. 

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:01 | 6981839 ali_baba
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Mario Rubio says the “radical left” is using a “politically correct way to advocate Israel’s destruction.

 

Political correctness is what juden use to control dissent. In this case, they can see that the dissenters have caught on, so they double bluff them. Fucking snakes.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:11 | 6981879 Manthong
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“her pregnant? Didn't think so”

Samantha Power

..good reason for that.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:45 | 6982041 Divided States ...
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Another High Level Jew in the Obama Adminstration. These assholes should just meet at the Synagogue.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:55 | 6982089 Bumpo
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By embracing political incorrectness, Republican candidates proclaim that they will not be cowed by, or even compromise with, their political opponents.

 

It's about time.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 14:40 | 6982634 Herd Redirectio...
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Frank Marshall Davis, a Chitown Commie, was Obama's father.

Frank Davis worked with Vernon Jarrett, which is Valerie Jarrett's father in law.

http://www.obamasrealfather.com/frank-marshall-davis/

All the 'Kenyan Muslim' talk is misdirection.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 13:34 | 6982321 Meat Hammer
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Obama is a high-level negro in the Jew administration.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 13:45 | 6982367 eatthebanksters
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Will someone take this thought control mongrel out and give him a good thumping?  Jeez, what will it take until the thought police allow stop trying to tell us what to think?

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 14:36 | 6982614 Bananamerican
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you know, I try to share these articles, to sway minds, (it DOES work) but you and a couple others just fuck it up with your "Jew/Negro" schtick.
Folks just tune out the whole thing if they think it has the imprimatur of StormFront on it... 

 

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 14:54 | 6982709 Herd Redirectio...
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'Folks' will tune out anything they don't agree with.  So what.  Its called cognitive dissonance and its up to the individual to deal with it.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 14:09 | 6982484 moonshadow
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@divided states- do you ever make comments that are NOT about your obsession with jews? (or more specifically: being anti-jewish or anti-Israel in some form?)

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 18:06 | 6983550 Divided States ...
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I point out what is wrong with this world and it just turns out everything that is wrong relates to Jews.

Look at most of the articles on ZH and who are headlining them: Yellen, Greenspan, Sunstein, Emanual, Fink, Icahn, Ackman, Einhorn, Tepper, Cooperman, Cohen, Fischer, Blankfein, Shkreli, Bernanke.....I can go on and on

If you cant see the obvious, then God help you.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:16 | 6981901 Razor_Edge
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BIll Lind has an excellent take on these yooden here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjaBpVzOohs

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 14:03 | 6982453 moonshadow
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@Save_Am1st- Yes! Yes! Exactly correct! You wrote what I was thinking! +100
Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:55 | 6981813 philipat
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"Most likely they are both homosexuals"

If you live in NY you will be in big trouble. Moosh prefers being referred to as the First, first something or other. And if you don't like it, you will get hit for a $250K fine. Welcome to Amerika...

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 13:53 | 6982389 OregonGrown
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 Political Incorrectness As "The Furthest Thing From Brave"

 

"Dont be brave boy, bend over and spread them like i told you too..... you wont get teased and called a queer..... look, it's legal now and you can sue them for 250k if you get snickered at and they call you one"!

 

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:57 | 6981814 El Vaquero
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Yup, it's propaganda alright.

 

Gun control is a terrible idea.

Considering that there is, for all intents and purposes, zero correlation between gun ownership rates and homicide in the US, gun control is restricting my rights without actually solving any problems.  That doesn't even get into why a government should be scared of its populace.  So yeah, it is a terrible fucking idea. 

 

The Affordable Care Act is a disaster.

I keep on seeing these articles and figures that show that health care costs are still unaffordable and still rising.  Then there was the whole website debacle.  Yeah, Obamacare is a fucking disaster.

The United States shouldn’t be doing a lot to combat climate change.

Reduce CO2 emissions and change the US way of life in a way that is unelectable.  You're not going to change that, you moron.

Affirmative action is bad.

Telling people that they are too stupid to get by on their own merit, then giving them a free pass ensures that those people will not strive to accomplish what they can accomplish.  It also diverts resources away from those who could make better use of them.  Affirmative action is bad.

The Barack Obama administration is a dismal failure.

Why yes, yes it is!  We knew that meddling in Syria would give rise to ISIS and we meddled in Syria anyway.  Fast and Furious.  Benghazi.  IRS political targeting.  More NSA spying.  And those are just some of the scandals. 

Ronald Reagan was great.

Eh.  He was better than what we have now. 

The minimum wage should not be increased.

I wish these morons could understand that there are a finite amount of resources, and because of that, the real minimum wage is $0.  What happens when it costs $1 to produce something, but nobody is willing to pay more than $0.50 for it?  That item does not get produced.  Raising minimum wage raises production costs. 

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:24 | 6981943 Bay of Pigs
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+1 That was the quote I was going to dismantle point by point.

Sustein is a dismal failure trying to hide behind his shitty ideas and useless theories.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:54 | 6982054 Tall Tom
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You missed the most damning quote of Susstein's essay...

 

If this is not HYPOCRISY on a grandiose scale then I do not know what is.

 

The trick is that this strategy has nothing at all to do with genuine independence; it’s just a matter of salesmanship, a way to get more popular. 

 

The whole idea of Political Correctness is to garner support and popularity amongst the populace. That is the underlying incentive for POLITICAL Correctness, to garner a overwhelming consensus where nobody is offended.. Just what are Politics for if not that?

 

He takes the greatest flaw in the policy and then attempts to attribute that same flaw to those who are in opposition.

 

The reason for this is a TRANSFERENCE OF ATTITUDE.

 

Susstein cannot even begin to understand how anyone else can consider that his form of Political Correctness can even be considered as deficient. As he is a psychopath and, thus, has no capability to place himself into another's shoes.

 

Since he acts to garner popularity then he makes the assumption that everybody else is driven by the same motive. 

 

Now anybody can downarrow thiis post if they choose. I am not seeking popularity or social validation. Personally I could not care les if I get any validation whatsoever.

 

I will write what I write and if people do not like it then I do not care. If I get them to think, if I challenge their precognitions, then I succeed.

 

I am not here for friends.

 

But this attitude would be absolutely alien to Cass Susstein. In fact he'd probably believe me as ingenuine if he were to read this. He cannot conceive of it in any other way. He is incapable.

 

That is my personal goal.

 

It has nothing to do with rationality whatsoever. It is a part of his delusion.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 13:31 | 6982292 NotApplicable
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I wouldn't say Susstein is incapable of conceiving your point, but rather, he considers it moot. He is not spouting his true ideology here. Instead, he's spouting whatever rhetoric it takes to further fuel divide and conquer amongst the herd.

He damn well knows he's spouting pure BS (otherwise he wouldn't be so good at it). All he cares about is serving TPTB, which is always accomplished via divide and conquer. That you think his words are hypocritical is but another measure of his success. It's also not delusion on his part, but pure calculation of the best usage of activation energy to create a Sussteinable (sorry, couldn't resist) reaction.

I bet he laughed his ass off whle writing this hyperbole.

Hopefully, I've challenged your precognitions. (and I've never downvoted any of your posts)

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 13:56 | 6982412 Handful of Dust
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Affordable Care Act Hasn’t Made Health Care Affordable, Study Finds

 

 

 

http://news.yahoo.com/affordable-care-act-hasn-t-144900928.html;_ylt=Awr...

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 14:57 | 6982730 Herd Redirectio...
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How do you turn ANY STATEMENT of FACT into a 'mere accusation'?  With a COUNTER-ACCUSATION, of course!

Like when Turkey accussed Russia of buying ISIS' oil, after they (and Israel) were outed.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 15:02 | 6982753 hxc
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Stick to the lame republican script. The intelligent libertarian stuff goes right over the heads of idiot neocon thugs.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:57 | 6981823 Bendromeda Strain
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That Judaism is a corrosive force?

https://youtu.be/tRfhUezbKLw?t=115
Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:38 | 6982007 Bendromeda Strain
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What, I am not quoting a Jew? Come out and play, pussy...

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:16 | 6981635 El Oregonian
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“On the whole human beings want to be good, but not too good, and not quite all the time.”

- George Orwell

The mind-set of this Administration

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:40 | 6981743 Milestones
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"There are more similarities than differences between opposites" Eric Hoffer -THE TRUE BELIEVER.          Milestones

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:18 | 6981912 Praeda2
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Yeeaaah... but how do you miss, JEW? Because you're a coward and an idiot. "rational debate" with lunatics? Stop smoking whatever it is you're smoking.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 16:03 | 6983084 BarkingCat
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Fuck the middle. Meeting in the middle is allowing to have only one ankle bracelet put on by someone who wants to chain you while you want to run free.

Meeting in the middle is giving half of your money to a robber when he wants everything that is in your wallet. I would much rather not give any of my money and beat him to a bloody pulp.

 

... but you go right ahead and compromise your rights and property away, 50% at a time.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:05 | 6981856 ToSoft4Truth
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‘An aircraft carrier and its large number of escorts are all equipped with cameras recording their surroundings 24/7 and none of them captured the rocket launch?’

 

There's a lot of that.

 

Washington DC is smothered with weather and traffic cameras, not one caught a jet airliner arcing across the sky and landing on the Pentagon front lawn.   

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:25 | 6981953 Thom_333
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Wasn´t it something like that back in 1964...? In the South China sea. 

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:59 | 6982111 onthesquare
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Another example of cowardice.  Enticing a fight in NOT international waters.  Just like flying drones to murder innocent people half way around the world because someone says there might be a boogie man in the crowd.

 

Home of the brave? My ass.  Home of the brainwashed.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:18 | 6981644 G.O.O.D
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God how I hate these people. Who among us has the power to declare project mayhem?

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:44 | 6981755 Robert Paulson
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His name is Robert Paulson.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 15:04 | 6982767 Herd Redirectio...
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This is the stage we are at:

https://youtu.be/xWVxI6XZAuE

Applying elastic bands to testicles, one pair at a time.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 13:51 | 6982394 OregonGrown
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Rule #1

 

Cant ask questions regarding .......

 

oh, fuck it!

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:52 | 6982078 JRobby
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Cass Sunstein

Euthanization

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 13:43 | 6982358 Kirk2NCC1701
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Sunstein.  Another made-up Ziocon name, serving a Ziocon purpose.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 14:11 | 6982483 Grandad Grumps
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I pray for the salvation of Cass Sunstein and Samantha Power and in the name of Jesus Christ send the demons controlling them back to hell.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 14:28 | 6982576 Josey Montana
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Amen.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 15:05 | 6982676 fleur de lis
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Samantha Power has no sense of decorum. For all her money she couldn't find more appropriate attire for sitting onstage.

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/-ajibjt5Mgq/Africa+Leaders+Summit+Convene...

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:01 | 6981565 Baby Bladeface
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This Sunstein guy his behaviour consistent with that of man married to wife born with penis.

Sorry, not polite of me this crude thing to tell, is somehow seemed appropriate for Cass Sunstein, Sam Power.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:13 | 6981624 froze25
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So Trump has been politically correct this whole time? Who knew?

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:26 | 6981959 Thom_333
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Correct- Incorrect , Left-Right...who cares. Those paradigms are just broken propaganda myths. To disguise the real agendas.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:54 | 6982085 JRobby
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The one and only true (unspoken) policy

Divide & Conquer (the electorate)

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:18 | 6981643 SoDamnMad
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TeamDepends

Pnamend addresses is so "terroristic". You know that highly trained shooters might decide to form teams and select target groups to attack when the Great Reset arrives.  It would be so horrible if many of the greedy, cheats and thieves were taken town in the first hours.

by the way, do yo have Corzine's address? I want to deliver a New Year's "package" to the cock sucker.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:48 | 6981747 Bendromeda Strain
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Considering that your IP is converted for "teams" to utilize should that day come, I guess all is fair. Sunstein wasn't idly speculating at all when he wrote his propaganda paper. Actual honeypot websites have been established, and both National Clandestine Services (Special Activities Division) and Jewish Internet Defense Force keyboard warriors have been outed. The most blatant (and funny) example I know of was on a honeypot website called God Like Productions (possibly a sister site of Above Top Secret). Apparently a remote script on a Govvy server puked up all kinds of background information - a most hilarious debacle involving spoofing locations in Korea and Kazakhstan (!).

I just watched Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation -what a piece of crap that was (92% Rotten Tomatoes critic score), but at least got to laugh out loud at the mention of the Special Activities Division actually doing something besides clicking away in Mother Langley's basement.

http://www.insanemedia.net/forum-shill-gets-busted-ats-and-glp-censor-n-...

Bonus NCS footage (sign up now)!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUby1HWZv9w

 

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:49 | 6981784 Bunghole
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I wouldnt download the Mission Impossible torrent if you paid me.

If you want entertainment, check out Fargo on FX.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:58 | 6982105 JRobby
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"The Big Short" on dayt.se

http://dayt.se/forum/showthread.php?7198-The-Big-Short-%282015%29-DVDScr...

 

The sheep have been gobbling up their holiday comfort foods and entertainment and passing this one by. Of course box office $$$ are all lies. Have been for decades.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 15:15 | 6982832 Herd Redirectio...
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GLP and ATS are the most shill-infested hellholes on the Internet.

Which is interesting, considering they are supposed to be 'conspiracy' sites!    Just avenues for directing the narrative, monitoring the discussion. 

Fun fact, did you know you can't post the word "Tavistock" on GLP?  Hmmm, what to make of that???

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:00 | 6981836 Lorca's Novena
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regarding honeypots;

back when /new/ ended and /pol/ started, it was blatantly obvious what was going on. Now with a new 'owner', i stay far, far away...

Better get behind 7 boxxies!

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 13:15 | 6982217 noless
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Oh for fucks sake, if your still alive by now you'll be fine, there'r so many competing factions globally that you're just as likely to get scooped up by someone friendly as get death-squaded.

Have any of you been on Facebook lately? They have real time instant cross language chat, like, it's immediate, and it translates between any languages I'm pretty sure..

Think about that for a second..

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 19:26 | 6983827 Raging Debate
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Dont answer this question and get baited for a target on your back. Guessing games are good. It has to become so expensive to maintain security the current apparatus is (at temporarily) abandoned. Some of you had best get a damn poker face quickly. Ask for what you want, that also helps. 

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:21 | 6981659 Ignatius
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@TeamDepends 

I saw what you did there and I want to hug you... in a manly sorta way.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:52 | 6981795 ISEEIT
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You be funny-:)

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:54 | 6981806 Skeeterworborton
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Target Alpha!

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:16 | 6981902 t0mmyBerg
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Anyone know where Mr. Sunstein lives?

I do not know but I cannot wait to watch a red hot poker shoved up his inane little ass when the revolution starts

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 13:22 | 6982253 Perimetr
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All my friends would like to stop by for a house-warming party.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:52 | 6981528 Pairadimes
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I have never thought him anything other than an amoral opportunist of the first order, and an all-around piece of shit. His is an obituary I will read with particular pleasure. In fact, I may pour out a bottle of bourbon on his grave - after passing it through my body first.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:28 | 6981972 Thom_333
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There you go... a true salute to a fallen (media) warrior.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:23 | 6981541 Mercury
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The fact that Sunstein even acknowledges that there is such a thing as a "correct" political viewpoint pretty much says it all.

And no, rejecting the validity or enforcement of political correctness isn't itself a form of political correctness.

But by applying his logic evenly both Republicans and Democrats are bad actors in equal measure for enforcing their own orthodoxies and punishing heretics which -DUH- is the #1 reason for Trump's "surprising" popularity.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:19 | 6981872 Ignatius
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And this passes for 'intellect' these days.

Sunstein, what a putz. I'd like to be locked in a room with this worm and our only weapons are our competing and supportable narratives of 9/11-anthrax where only one walks out alive.  I'd leave a dead man behind me....

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:12 | 6981883 MayIMommaDogFac...
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He was definitely attempting "yoga poses" with his convolution of language and logic.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:27 | 6981965 20834A
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So do I understand his agument *correctly (see what I did there?):

If you are political incorrect, then you establish an ideological othodoxy whiich can be situationally politically CORRECT.

If you are politically correct, then you establish an ideological orthodoxy that can be situationally politically INCORRECT.

In either case, both positions use it for 'signalling' and their own self-interest.

DERP

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 13:20 | 6982242 Mercury
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His argument essentially is that everyone is just talking their book but then he concludes by saying that being contra to the PC book isn't "brave" even though A) that isn't the thesis and B) his own evidence about PC behavior at universities supports the assertion that ant-PC behavior might very well require some degree of bravery.

In any case he's full of shit. Other Republican candidates call out Trump on some of his un-PC viewpoints but not others.  No Democrat ever calls out the Obama administration in an un-PC manner.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 15:18 | 6982861 Herd Redirectio...
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And that these are UNIVERSITIES that have effectively muzzled people (by threatening their career feasibility) is somehow OK.  LOL

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:06 | 6981588 XitSam
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Cass Sunstein is high on the Wood Chipper List.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:14 | 6981602 Ghordius
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"If anything demonstrates how the two party system is one, it is how Sunstein has been utilized by both"

cog, possible. but if you allow, I have a different perspective

a two-party system is vastly superior to a one-party system. in this America is 100% better off then China, for example

my (centrist) point is that a better system is not necessarily a good system. the UK has a similar system... and yet with less entrenchment of dominant political groups. witness the British Conservatives battling the UK Independence Party on one side, the Lib-Dem on the other and the Labour party on another, with the SNP in Scotland, and so on

a two-party system, though, panders - by the very electoral campaign process - first to the extremes... and then shortly before the elections to the "center"

meaning that the two immortal US parties are now in the phase where they can't be extreme enough, to the chagrin of moderates. and this - if you count in that the immense pressure nearly unlimited and secret funds give to an electoral campaign that becomes longer and longer... results in a strong polarization of politics

resulting in two options for everything, and only two options. Washington claimed it would be possible to do politics without factions. Meanwhile, the Whigs thought they would last forever

again, from my perspective, what US politics lacks more and more is a center. a moderate center. as a result of a whole series of changes, of which funding is one of the must obvious ones

(from this perspective, btw, both parties are liberal in the classic sense. the choice given is between liberal-conservative and liberal-socialist. but the main problems the US has are about excesses of liberalism, badly tempered by other influences)

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:17 | 6981641 froze25
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The leadership in both parties might as well be in the same party. 2 sides. Once coin.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:29 | 6981685 chunga
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What makes you say that lol?.

Trump in 2008: Hillary Clinton would make a "great" president

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-in-2008-hillary-clinton-would-make-a-g...

Hillary is smart, tough and a very nice person, so is her husband. Bill Clinton was a great president. They are fine people.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:32 | 6981704 Ghordius
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and... who do you blame? by pandering to extremes, you prevent a third party to emerge. my opinion only, made from a long time of following politics here in the EU, where we have some hundred political parties in 28 countries, roughly grouped in seven "families". so don't listen to any argument from me, follow the next extreme fad

or study why the Whigs aren't a dominant US Party anymore

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:43 | 6981751 SgtShaftoe
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If voting could make any meaningful difference, it would be illegal to vote.  There's been plenty of academic research that demonstrate that the people have zero control over how they're governed. 

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:56 | 6982097 lincolnsteffens
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The People do have control over how they are governed. As people are afraid of the unknown they would rather retain what comfort they have for that which they do not know. The wealth and control system which seeks to maintain or increase its power works to convince people that the alternative to the current reality is too scary to contemplate.

The greatest impact people can have is to withdraw and stop consenting. To not withdraw your support means that you consent.

When you register to vote you are swearing that you agree to be part of the system that the Federal Corporation has designed. Just because elected politicians do the opposite of what they promised or further infringed on your natural rights is meaningless because you agreed to abide by the decisions of your delegated authority to the Federal Corporation. This is true Democracy. You have to decide if you want to keep residing in the Corporation or live in the Republic with all your rights.

It is a decision for each individual to make whether to live by the Creator's Law or man's law. You can't have it both ways.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:28 | 6981899 Element
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Oh come on Ghordius! The 'center' is no different to 'left' or 'right', one is more convivial to more is all, a triumph of style over substance (in the most literal of senses too) the result is you are still a tax-slave, sold off to bankers to obtain loans to 'pay' for the high deficits as a bribe inducement to vote for deficits in 'good' times (no, nothing wrong with that! The banks love it!) and bailout banks in bad times to make sure insolvent banks don't get closed, and bailed-out, and bailed-in, at your expense.

And in between they screw your life with policies and police, for your own good of course, and reduce your will to live it, in a million different ways, and have you jumping at shadows every day of the week, via BS they promulgate on society, via their symbiotic lie-support apparatus media (Sunstein, etal).

You're still trying to believe in political process as "what really matters", and are lost to that morass.

All that's happened is we replaced Kings, Queens and Emperors, and other assorted mongrel bastards, with politicians, policies and police, and their many interlocking deeply sick, corrupt tyrannies, and called it democratic 'freedom' ... weeeee!

Making sense of it does not mean it makes sense G, it just means you'd like it to not be what it was, is, and will be.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 15:52 | 6983032 Ghordius
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+1 element, and happy new year! I am not claiming any moral superiority by the center. far from it. and yes, we are more convivial, as you say, or tolerant, as I prefer

but tax-slavery, bankers robbing banks and the state, high deficits, corruptions of various forms, from crony capitalism to political corruption of both elected and electors...

...aren't an issue of neither conservatives nor liberals nor the socialist nor all their mixed forms... alone

the center... asks more about efficiency. does it work? what are the costs? this kind of things

believe it or not, the center can ask the better questions. those that are more difficult to answer, and... are least helpful to corruption

even if you firmly believe that your country, alone or group wise are in the grip of an oligarchy... the political game's rules are set. that's society that sets them

there is no such thing as a revolution that isn't a societal revolution first, and a political revolution second, even up to the usual passage of majorities among parties

further, the center is less susceptible to propaganda, not buying in any of the extreme brands, beliefs and identities

corruption... is a failure of the center

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 18:16 | 6983578 Element
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I don't know why but for some reason you still figure I must be a revolutionary, when I'm just an observer. I observe you have an unhealthy affection/appreciation for these systems that I don't find possible to share.

It's people, not systems.

You can not find fault in a systemic arrangement that's just the sum of the shared delusional inputs and outputs of the people. The system does not exist without that delusion matrix. So what can I tell you about people ... hmm ... how long have you got?

I'll abridge it. First thing is, most people deliberately play with others. They set them up to exploit them and manipulate the situations they find themselves in. We play hierarchies with people, we harm them on purpose while pretending not to, because we can. We are not a pleasant animal G, we are a nasty piece of work. But frankly it is on a spectrum of possibilities, and not everyone is like that.

You for instance. I used to think you were a bit naive, informed, refined, all that, but lacking the validity of hardness, plus colored by idealism. But a concern for corruptions.

The center is boring, of consensual collectivism, of political correctness, an enabler of central planners.

So be it, no one's interested in a big center, we're all a bit too vain for that.

Does that seem to account for the failure of the center and pervasive deep corruption?

You're looking for idealized solutions, and I'm saying people are difficult critters, they're not ideals, nor political frameworks, they are manipulated ruthlessly, and when they discover everyone has been playing with them and jerking them around and digging holes for them to fall into, they are done with it.

Now they may be revolutionaries and a bit intense, if goaded.

But I'm not.

The words are a manipulation and the language of politics is execrable, especially when at its very finest. The policies are psychobabble, eagerness for the technocratic abounds, terse codes of law are from an alien world, which does not support human life, and we're force-fed law by police who are 'helping us', as they do the diametric.

What is this thing invading life?

Poetry sucks ass, of that I am sure.

A "happy new year"... a Raison D'etre.

 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/NGC_1275_Hubble.jpg

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:38 | 6981734 LawsofPhysics
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Typical of Ghordius and his long winded mental masterbation.  DON'T overthink this, the money that is now required for both parties to get "elected" comes from the same source.  Divide and conquer has been a strategy forever people. Don't be a Ghordius, don't overthink this.  Go be productive.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 19:46 | 6983898 Raging Debate
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Physics - I wont speak for Ghordius but to me government is a tool, not much different than a hammer really. So it does matter but how much influence one can project and how to go about varies wildly in opinion. I boil it down to a car analogy, building better brakes (tool) for the car is always needed and yes some brake systems are better than others. 

Sat, 01/02/2016 - 04:21 | 6987454 Ghordius
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"Divide and conquer has been a strategy forever people. Don't be a Ghordius, don't overthink this.  Go be productive"

don't overthink, be productive is a strategy of division, too. in the sense of don't get involved, keep out of politics

yes, the money. other countries have limits on electoral campaign money. your country had some, too, and ditched them

but don't overthink anything, don't notice the small changes that make up the whole, be a nice little consumer (or in my case a producer, btw, though in this case it's the same: be an economic actor but don't be a political actor)

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:11 | 6981616 Urban Roman
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Makes me wonder if he was paid by the Trump campaign, or just came up with that all by himself.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:49 | 6981782 ISEEIT
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I respect this person so much. A very good soul.

His Wife writes much better than him...?

LOL?

Any sane person, or even the wanna-be's ought to look at the beauty of free humans LIVING a beautiful life.

http://twoicefloes.com/

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:53 | 6981805 glenlloyd
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Cass Sunstein, now there's someone I think it would be worth poking in the eye.

A complete waste of skin

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:22 | 6981936 Thom_333
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Maybe he too is constantlu wearing a cyanide pill on him? Like Göbbels.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:27 | 6981967 Anti-kleptocrat
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When the 'reset' happens, what should the proper punishment be for him/them? When they steal your free speech should you cut off their tongues? When they spend your last dollar should you take all their wealth?

OK, you're turn ... be creative ... 

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:37 | 6982011 Dragon HAwk
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Just lock them all in one room together let them sort it out... tell them only one man walks out..

  what we don't tell them is  whoever  walks out gets hung.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:43 | 6982025 Chuck Walla
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It's odd to see Herr Cass without the his customary Brown Shirt. I can only reccomend reading his "Conspiracy Theories" with appropriate background music. I suggest looping https://youtu.be/MD6oDnm43HA

 

FORWARD IN DIE LAGER!

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:47 | 6982049 Atomizer
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Good job CD. Can we bring are M134 to the party? Didn't receive, maybe the easter bunny will deliver. 

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 14:05 | 6982467 wholy1
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Don't forget about his counterpart - Karl Rove.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 19:55 | 6983922 sgt_doom
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Sunstein has stated that anyone doubting that pack of lies called the Warren Commission Report, on the JFK assassination, is a conspiracy theorist, instead of a Data Scientist, which rules today --- Sorry Sunsteinshit!

So, any American who has yet to read relatively recently declassified CIA and FBI documents, should now know that those released by the CIA show beyond any reasonable doubt that upper echelon elements with the CIA WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MURDER OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY!  (Meaning that several documents detail a meeting between CIA agents and known OAS assassin, Jean Souetre, in Lisbon, and that the CIA was aware that Souetre had been involved in the attempted assassination of President De Gaulle of France, they were meeting specifically with an assassin.

Also, other declassified documents indicate the CIA issued an Expulsion Order against Jean Souetre in Dallas, TX, hours after the murder of President Kennedy --- i.e., INS was directed to pick up known assassin, Jean Souetre (and perhaps other assassins as well) and transport him out of the country on a government plane --- to repeat, this was hours after the murder of President Kennedy IN DALLAS!

To repeat again:

THE ASSASSINS BALL

General Outline:  Assassination of President John F. Kennedy

Declassified CIA files (see maryferrell.org links [Mary Ferrell Foundation]) indicate that CIA agents met with French OAS assassin, Jean Souetre, months prior to the assassination of President Kennedy, and that they were aware of Souetre’s involvement in the attempted assassination of President De Gaulle of France.

The CIA agents met Souetre in Lisbon around March-April 1963, which was also the HQ city of Aginter-Presse, the front outfit for assassins and mercenaries for hire.

Next, Pfc. Eugene Dinkin intercepts cables between the CIA station in Italy and an OAS site detailing that the location and date for the assassination of President Kennedy is to be Dallas between 11/22 to 11/28.

Declassified FBI files indicate that FBI agents spoke with Dr. Alderson in Houston, an old friend of Souetre’s from his military service, when Dr. Alderson was stationed in France.  Dr. Alderson stated to assassination researchers that he was left with the impression by the agents that Souetre had been involved with JFK’s murder, and also they mentioned that he had been flown out of the country shortly after JFK’s murder on a government plane.

So, thanks to FOIA requests from the Ferrell Foundation we know that it was ONLY the CIA which issued and expulsion order for Jean Souetre to leave the country, as those declassified FBI files indicate that there were no files or records whatsoever on Jean Souetre at the INS Texas HQ office in Houston.  (And how many other expulsion orders has the CIA issued since then?  Not very many, that’s for sure!)

French intelligence confirmed to attorney Fensterwald, another JFK researcher, that Souetre was in the USA in November of 1963.

Then INS agent in Dallas, Virgil Bailey, shows up hours after the murder of JFK to remove Souetre, an international assassin wanted for the attempted assassination of another president, from the custody of the Dallas police, but of course doesn’t remember what became of him afterwards?!  Nor does Virgil recall who directed him to pick up Souetre?

Bailey gives a description of Souetre which matches another QJ/WIN assassin, Mozes or Moise Maschkivitzan, a Belgian of Russian-Jewish descent, who may have also been involved in the murder of Patrice Lumumba.

Why this description?  Because Bailey picked up three individuals that day:  Jean Souetre (OAS), Lazlo the Hungarian (OAS) and Moise Maschkivitzan, of whom very little is known, other than he appears to match an alias known as Michel Victor Mertz, a concoction of either Maschkivitzan’s or French intelligence.

The “tramp” with the turned up collar was Maschkivitzan, while the taller and blond fellow was the Hungarian, and the short and pudgy fellow was an actual hobo.

While the murder of JFK was primarily ordered by the Rockefeller brothers, with the assistance of local Texas oil types, and undertaken by the CIA within the CIA, using contract assassins, the CIA element was most enthusiastic as they were working with elements within French intelligence (and would later take over control from them) as regards drug trafficking from the Golden Triangle of Southeast Asia.

That area was controlled by former Nationalist Chinese militias, who had been financed by the CIA to make forays into China, and been repeatedly repulsed by the PLA, falling back to surviving by taking over the minor existing drug trafficking at the time, and greatly expanding it with the help of the French mob, and French intelligence elements colluding with them, then later the elements within the CIA.

During the Johnson Administration, the State Department and Treasury Department would encourage the banks to create offshore tax havens, to bring in US dollars from the drug money laundering business, as the outflow of hard US currency had increased with the buildup of the American empire; an increase in military bases on foreign shores.  This trend had already begun, in response to actions by both President Kennedy and Rep. Wright Patman (D-TX) who were going after the sheltering of money and ownership of the super-rich in their foundations and trusts.

FACT SHEET for JFK Assassination, 11/22/63

FACT: Fired CIA director, Allen Dulles [who still appeared to be running the agency] traveled to Dallas several weeks prior to the JFK assassination as did the CIA's William K. Harvey, CIA station chief in Italy;

FACT: Gen. Edward Lansdale was photographed in Dallas on the morning of the murder, Lansdale [CIA] had worked for Nelson Rockefeller when he was reorganizing the DoD during Eisenhower administration;

FACT: Lucien Conein [CIA] was supposed to be in Vietnam, where he was several weeks before during the assassination of Diem, and would be photographed in Dallas by the presidential motorcade that day [Conein was also a favorite of Ambassador Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr., about to fired by JFK for not following his peace directives] - - Neither Diem, nor JFK, wanted American troops in Vietnam - - NSAM 263;

FACT: Harold Jameson was stopped and questioned by Dallas police right after JFK murder, and would later be stopped by LA police immediately after the murder of Sen. Bobby Kennedy in 1968 - - Jameson had an FBI file [case no. 499 731], was connected to Big Oil and the mob, and was related to Donald Jameson, head of the CIA's Soviet Russia/Covert Actions desk; (Just so happened Jameson had an office with a direct-line-of-sight to the presidential motorcade in the Dal-Tex Building, also had roof access.)

FACT: Pfc. Eugene B. Dinkin, stationed at an NSA site in Metz, France, monitoring OAS sites, intercepts several cables between CIA station in Italy and the OAS in France, detailing that the murder of President Kennedy will be in Dallas, sometime between 11/22 to 11/28.  (Unfortunately, Mr. Dinkin notifies the wrong people and he is shipped to Walter Reed Hospital stateside, where members of the CIA’s MK ULTRA team use a combination of violent electroshock treatments and schizophrenia-inducing drugs to scramble his mind and story!)

FACT: CIA document #632-796 is released in 1977 - - dated 4/01/64 - - titled: “Jean Souetre's Expulsion from the US” which occurred 18 hours after the murder of JFK, where Souetre, an assassin with the OAS and Red Hand, was picked up in Dallas, TX, by INS agent Virgil Bailey.  (Oddly, Virgil Bailey, along with George H.W. Bush had little to no recollection of events on the day JFK was murdered --- he recalled picking up the Frenchman, Jean Souetre --- an international assassin wanted for a number of crimes, chiefly the attempted assassination of another president, Charles de Gaulle of France, and was an escaped convict, wanted for treason and sedition in France, etc.  So shortly after the assassination of President Kennedy in Dallas, ole Virgil picks up a guy --- an illegal alien --- from the Dallas jail, wanted in an attempt on another president, but doesn’t recall what happened to him, his disposition, what became of him, etc.)

FACT: Three French thugs, posing as journalists, do a home invasion on Dallas PD Chief Jesse Curry, simply interrogating him on how much he knows about the assassination;

FACT: During the time of the President Kennedy assassination, the CIA was being “reorganized” and the person in charge, who had been appointed by CIA Director McCone, was Nelson Rockefeller's special assistant [and in the military at officer's rank] at the time and McCone, unbeknownst to JFK, had made his fortune with a shipping company owned by the Rockefeller family [silent majority owner].

Supposition:  The shorter looking fellow with the turned up collar, Moise Maschkivitzan, is most likely with Aginter-Presse, a so-called news agency front for an international organization of mercenaries and assassins for hire, founded by French military deserter and OAS member, Yves Guerin-Serac.  The so-called three tramps have never been positively ID’d although an employee of the Houston PD incorrectly claimed to have ID’d them (not a biometric match) and a Dallas “journalist” claimed to have matched them to several hobos who were arrested on 11/22/63 --- problem is their photos at the same age are NOT a match, and the head of the Dallas Sheriffs Identification Division James D. Kitching, was questioned on the three tramps’ photos in 1968 and he stated that no one had been arrested who matched those photos!

The Operation

 Four shooters:  Lucien Conein is Number Four, French immigrant and CIA member (often referred to as Gen. Edward Lansdale’s shadow), situated by the motorcade but as it passes he moves toward the Dal-Tex Building.  In that building was an office leased byHarold Jameson, the criminal who is related to Donald Jameson, at the time head of the CIA’s Soviet Russia/Covert Actions Desk.  Jameson’s office is perfect line-of-sight to the motorcade, superior to anything in the Texas School Book Depository!

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http://www.ctka.net/pr1195-hewett.html

The Dal-Tex Specimen: The fourth piece of firearm evidence consists of a rusted shell casing found on the rooftop of the Dal-Tex Building in 1977 by an air-conditioning repair man. The Dal-Tex Building is just east of the TSBD, across Houston Street. Assassination researchers have long speculated that a second gunman was positioned at that building. Judging by the rusted condition of the shell case, it had been there for quite some time. What was unique about this case was the crimped edges along the neck suggesting that either the shell had been handloaded or had been used in conjunction with a sabot. Specimens 1), 2) and 3) could conceivably have been shot from locations other than Dealey Plaza by some careless hunter. However, this shell casing meant that the rifle was shot where the shell was expended and it is unlikely that deer hunters ever had occasion to position themselves on a rooftop in downtown Dallas.

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Shooter Number One was  Jean Souetre, an OAS assassin, who is situated at the overpass, and once he fires his rifle, a man dressed as a laborer will relieve him of that rifle and spirit it away.

Shooters Number Two and Three were  situated at the grassy knoll area and will be captured many times by photographers as they are led by two Dallas policemen to the Dallas County  Sheriff’s office.  The shorter, fellow with the turned-up collar was Moise Maschkivitzan, born in Antwerp of Russian-Jewish parents. The taller, blond fellow was Lazlo the Hungarian, former member of the French Foreign Legion (where, when they join, they assume a new identity, so only his name and nickname can be ascertained), and an OAS weapons specialist, so more like an armorer or gunsmith of the group.

The third older and fatter fellow was an actual hobo.

These two shooters will be relieved of their rifle(s) by Jack Ruby, who was witnessed running up and transferring one or more rifles to his car and then leaving the scene.

The two shooters and the hobo will be allowed to leave the Dallas County Sheriff’s office after only several minutes.

 

 SOME SOURCES:

Those three (never identified) tramps:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA-3navQ-_E

http://www.whokilledjfk.net/tramps.htm

 Arrest records of three tramps misreported:

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kdfw/projects/JFKvideo/video/jfk031.html

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kdfw/projects/JFKvideo/video/jfk032.html

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kdfw/projects/JFKvideo/video/jfk033.html

Eyewitness recounting of one of the JFK shooters: Time of eyewitness: 13:51 (James Douglass’ book, JFK and the Unspeakable)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LbNWUNfnaA&feature=player_embedded

 Lucien Conein at the JFK murder:

http://i0.wp.com/altereddimensions.net/main/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/image_thumb45.png?resize=180%2C149

JFK on Algeria and its independence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YDKRqoRkfQ

Photos of three tramps:

http://grandsubversion.com/jfkAssassination/nobotimg/dallas_police/hobos/three_tramp_hobo_jfk_35.jpg

http://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/albums/userpics/10001/pojfkwhiteslides01019.jpg

(Look under 5/16/68, JAMES D. KITCHING . . .)

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/W%20Disk/Weisberg%20Harold/FOIA%20Requests%20Chronology/Item%2021.pdf

Attorney/Researcher’s meetings in France  (Bernard Fensterwald)

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/S%20Disk/Souetre%20Jean%20with%20aka's/Item%2011.pdf

http://americanjudas.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-defense-intelligence-agency-dia.html

Declassified CIA/FBI documents

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83403#relPageId=2&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83404#relPageId=4&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83405#relPageId=2&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83405#relPageId=9&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83408#relPageId=3&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=83409#relPageId=4&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=91307#relPageId=2&tab=page

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=91307#relPageId=3&tab=page

 

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:48 | 6981509 smithcreek
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So a tarted up schooyard taunt is what passes for deep thinking nowadays?

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:56 | 6981538 SWRichmond
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Among Republicans, it has become politically correct to be politically incorrect.

= "You must, above all else, continue to believe in the (false) left-right paradigm."  With his first sentence, he told you everything you really need to know.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:57 | 6981549 MasterControl
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You mean this one?

Tyranny<---------------------------------------------->Anarchy 

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:06 | 6981566 SWRichmond
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No, that is not at all what I mean.  Left and right are both tyranny.  But nice try.  Your statement illustrates you are stuck in the paradigm.

Their ability to keep people trapped in this paradigm is the only thing which prevents us from seeing them as the enemies they are.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:21 | 6981661 XitSam
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His weasel word wrassling is truly worthy of Goebbels. Republicans must reject their principles and adopt a liberal ajenda to show how "independent" they are.

Note how he avoids facts, like raising the minimum wage, or even having a minimum wage, is a bad idea. That is not open to discussion, only peoples feelings as to what is politically in/correct is what matters.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:23 | 6981941 Calmyourself
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Xitsam gets it,  doublespeak wont save you Cass..  Truth comes with a woodchipper

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:40 | 6981740 LawsofPhysics
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Bingo.  The money that is now required in order to get "elected", regardless of party, all comes from the same source.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:54 | 6981808 ISEEIT
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FORWARD!!

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:51 | 6981521 Ghost of PartysOver
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Send them to Siberia!!!

Oh please don't.  With the impending disaster they call "Global Warming" I have my eye on some soon to be beach front property over there..  (Is /sarc really needed)

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:56 | 6981540 VinceFostersGhost
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(Is /sarc really needed)

 

Naw....you're good.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:06 | 6981590 Handful of Dust
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Why be so hard on those poor Siberians? It's rather harsh on them to send this pos there.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:56 | 6981544 Fester
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*With modern long range weapons, high quality ammo, quality optics you would think someone would have at least taken a shot at some of these scumbags.

*I'm not advocating sniping these turds and I don't own any means of expressing my opinion from more than 400 yards.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:00 | 6981560 GhostOfDiogenes
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Its strange.

But the people with the best weaponary never seem to take out bad guys.

Well, except for Chris Kyle and that football player idiot who got fragged after finding out he was full of shit about the war on terra.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 19:57 | 6983926 sgt_doom
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How dare you verbally accost a highly trained SEAL sniper, so ungodly stupid as to knowingly hand over a loaded Glock to a known crazoid!

Geez, next you'll be questioning the Easter Bunny's existence!

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:02 | 6981570 SmedleyButlersGhost
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FYI at 400 - 500 yds, iron sights are enough and every day ammo. It's not a sniper shot at all. Just saying.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:10 | 6981611 Fester
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No shit Sherlock, I'm not a sniper and I don't own a gun capable of hitting anything long range.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:17 | 6981642 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Then shut the fuk up

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:22 | 6981665 Fester
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Your the dumbass who opened her cake hole.  LOL

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:15 | 6981629 NotGrokkingIt
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" I don't own any means of expressing my opinion from more than 400 yards."

 

You need to up your game bro.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:19 | 6981649 Wulfkind
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You can't bring about Utopia without a Purge.  Forward Soviet !

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 13:25 | 6982277 Meat Hammer
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I've read so much progressive double-speak that I could go through this article with a red pen and notate all of the instances of pretend arguments, hyperbole, and self-contradictions that the left uses to fool its minions.  Pathetic garbage.

So, if Cass says that people who decry political correctness are only doing it to gain popularity, then he just admitted that the anti-PC crowd has become the majority in America.  Dumb fuck.  He's just butt hurt that the progressive movement is headed back to faculty lounge and coffee shop discussion where it belongs.  Thanks for the help.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 19:59 | 6983931 sgt_doom
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I believe that Sunstein's statements have earned him a one-way trip to view the lunchtime entertainment among the head head-choppers of Saudi Arabia, their nooner head-chopping!

Don't know if they will let one of The Tribe back, though?

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 13:36 | 6982331 Well Hungarian
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I dunno cASS....maybe they arctually believe what they say.

 

Oh yeah..funk  you!  

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 14:00 | 6982439 wholy1
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Doubt Vlad would allow that.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 15:14 | 6982827 Nolde Huruska
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Paging Henry Bowman to the white courtesy phone.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:45 | 6981501 conraddobler
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Sweep the leg.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:10 | 6981870 GhostOfDiogenes
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I have thought about that statement and it is true.

The "strong" survive because survival isn't a game or sport like the martial "arts".

Its a war.

Goys versus chosentittes.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:46 | 6981504 _ConanTheLibert...
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Another Jew hmmm.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:48 | 6981510 __Usury__
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a free speech story........be careful

 

''Italian police have opened an investigation after a controversial website published a list of "influential Jews" working in the country. The names of journalists, businessmen, actors and personalities of Jewish faith were published on the Italian page of Radio Islam, a multi-language platform hosting essays from renowned holocaust deniers.''

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/radio-islam-italian-website-investigated-influe...

Why do supremely talented artists and intellectuals in America consider it perfectly “realistic” to depict Arabs and Muslims in a fashion that would be described as bigoted, if applied to blacks, Jews, gays, Native Americans, et al?

http://www.valentinosghost.com/

 

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 13:51 | 6982390 More Ammo
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So ala snack bar,you asking for a MuzzieCard so you can play the same game as the RaceCard and Holocard victims?

 

I have more than a WhitePrivilegeCard but I won't play any longer...

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:00 | 6981561 Thick Willy
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Jewish censorship of speech and thought in America will soon be official U.S. government policy and codified in the laws and regulations of the land.  The Jew.S.A.

Don't let them take your guns.  The Jewish Bolsheviks always slaughter tens of millions after their victims are disarmed.  If the gun grab comes, I suggest you move your family out of the path of what comes next.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:04 | 6981580 GhostOfDiogenes
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It already has for those who are "jew aware".

For modern churchtains waking up they think this is some new thing that just dropped out of the sky.

Churchtains allowed the jews to get this powerful, then whinge when the jews shiv them.

Well boo fuking hoo.

I mean come on. You KNEW they were jews/snakes.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:28 | 6981684 XitSam
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You mean he goes to synagogue?  Or that his ancestors were jewish? Or what?

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:43 | 6982032 Squid Viscous
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David Irving - "mustn't say that"

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:46 | 6981505 actionjacksonbrownie
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Another joo telling me what to say/think/do.

 

fuck off

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:48 | 6981508 City_Of_Champyinz
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Cass Sunstein is one of the biggest pieces of shit in the world.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:58 | 6981555 Chupacabra-322
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Close, but not quite. Scum Fuck Psychopath Science Czar John P. Holdren has him beat.

At his confirmation hearing before the Commerce, Science, and Transportation committee of the US Senate, Holdren (from 120 minutes, 30 seconds onward, transcript available here) answered several questions. One of them was posed by Senator David Vitter (R-LA) in regards to John Holdren’s advocacy of an optimum population for the United States in his treatise Population and the American Predicament: The Case Against Complacency, written in 1973:
Senator Vitter: “In 1973 you encouraged a “decline in fertility to well below replacement” in the United States because “280 million in 2040 is likely to be too many.” What would your number, or the right population in the US, be today?”

John P. Holdren: “I no longer think it’s productive, senator, to focus on the optimum population of the United States. I don’t think any of us know what the right answer is. When I wrote those lines in 1973 I was preoccupied with the fact that many problems the United States face appear to be being made more difficult by the rate of population growth that then prevailed. I think everyone who studies these matters understands that population growth brings some benefits and some liabilities. It’s a tough question to determine which will prevail in a given time-period. (…).”

To illustrate that Holdren’s search for an optimum population is not some ancient preoccupation, is illustrated by a 2006 Powerpoint presentation in which Holdren states under the header “Population”:

“Lower is better for lots of reasons: 8 billion people in 2100 is preferable by far to 10 billion.”

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:20 | 6981623 Chupacabra-322
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John P. Holden:

ECCOSCIENCE, Population, Resouces, Environment

Page 787-8: Mass sterilization of humans though drugs in the water supply is OK as long as it doesn't harm livestock

Adding a sterilant to drinking water or staple foods is a suggestion that seems to horrify people more than most proposals for involuntary fertility control. Indeed, this would pose some very difficult political, legal, and social questions, to say nothing of the technical problems. No such sterilant exists today, nor does one appear to be under development. To be acceptable, such a substance would have to meet some rather stiff requirements: it must be uniformly effective, despite widely varying doses received by individuals, and despite varying degrees of fertility and sensitivity among individuals; it must be free of dangerous or unpleasant side effects; and it must have no effect on members of the opposite sex, children, old people, pets, or livestock.

http://zombietime.com/john_holdren/

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:37 | 6981730 XitSam
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Wow. Even liberals now decry the forced sterilization of those with undesirable genetic traits. Truly an evil person.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 18:51 | 6983735 STP
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Quit feeding them and throwing money at them and the problem will solve itself, sheesh, it's not that difficult, as John Holdren's forced compliance.  I agree though, humans aren't exactly a scarce species, that's for sure.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:09 | 6981606 lakecity55
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I am a member of the Master Race, you proles! Worship me!

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 20:00 | 6983935 sgt_doom
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Seriously, people as either stupidly evil, or evilly stupid as Sunstein derserve to be disembowelled.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:54 | 6981524 GhostOfDiogenes
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What a great man.

Better than 6 million jews.

"As socialists, we are opponents of the jews, because we see in the hebrews the incarnation of capitalism, of the misuse of the nation's goods."

Joseph Goebbels

When I read about the hebrews and their semitic bloodthirsty and immature sky gods, I don't see any differnce between them, and modern jewry (like cass sunstein).

So why were the Nazies so bad?

Can anyone show me a major difference between jews and hebrews?

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:51 | 6981526 BeaverCream
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Joo as I say not as I joo.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:53 | 6981529 GhostOfDiogenes
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I don't know who is jooing whom anymore with articles like this.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:54 | 6981533 thecondor
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You know the saying that "I wouldn't even wish that on my enemy"? Well This is one of a hand full of people that I do not care if anything happened to. Evil people deserve evil shit to happen to them.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:55 | 6981535 Thick Willy
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He just wants to hire a bunch of Jewish kids as GS-13's to sit around trolling forums like this one, 4chan, 8chan, dailystormer, etc.  Already the Jews in America have a pretty well organized internet censorship, trolling, and online lynching operation.  For the most part they do it without any on the books pay.  This would just make the Jewish censorship of American free speech and thought an official part of United States government policy.

So it's probably going to happen.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:03 | 6981572 BeaverCream
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There were a ton of Pro Obama memes on /pol the other day.  They're wasting their time though, the overton window is definitely shifting right very quickly.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 11:08 | 6981599 Thick Willy
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/pol/ is loaded with SJWs, paid shills, reddit fags, etc. now.  Like posting communist anti-white memes will turn a neo-Nazi into a SJW/commie fag.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 20:02 | 6983940 sgt_doom
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Sad to say, but I agree withy your blatantly antisemitic statement!

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 10:55 | 6981537 wmbz
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cAss Sunstein, one of Obozo's favorite mentors.

If there is a hell, it is my hope that they both rot/burn in it!

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