Norwegian Car-B-Q: Tesla Model S Bursts Into Flames, Burns To A Crisp While Charging

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The Norwegian owner of a Tesla Model S found an unexpected f(i)ringe benefit during a cold Friday afternoon when shortly after he had parked his luxury electric car at a supercharging station in Gjerstad, and left, he realized the car could serve as a very quick and efficient, if quite toxic, source of heating for the cold Scandinavian country, after the Model S spontaneously burst into flames.

Nobody was injured in the incident in which the Tesla unexpectedly started burning, at which point emergency services were alerted.

By the time firefighters arrived, the car was completely ablaze.

As Norway's FVN reports, the fire department could not use water to extinguish the electric car fire, so it just let Tesla burn out completely while dousing it with foam and watching the luxury paperweight burn to a crisp.

FVN adds that the only way to extinguish electric car fire is by using water with a copper material. However, it is too costly for the Norwegian fire departments. There were more f(i)ringe benefits: according to firefighter, Steinar Olsen, it is dangerous to breathe the smoke from the fire because it has fluorine gas in it, and when an electric car burns down the toxic gases emitted are far more dangerous than those from a normal car.

As Jalopnik adds, the Model S has been involved in a handful of documented fires in the past few years, as a result of both crashes and charging, although Tesla has disagreed on the latter cause.

Photos from the scene of the incident courtesy of FVN:

 

On various previous occasions when a Model S burned down under similar circumstances, the stock price of TSLA reacted accordingly, although it always rebounded after Elon Musk soothed the market's nerves about the "one-time" nature of the Car-B-Q.

However, now that even Consumer Reports yanked its glowing endorsement of the car, the rebound may be delayed especially if the NHTSA finally wakes up and forces Musk to do another recall for a car which unexpectedly combusted just because it was being charged. One thing is certain: a recall "fixing" the battery pack would have a massive price tag attached to it, and it is possible that after years of ignoring the company's cash burn and liquidity, those two "fundamental" drivers of value will finally come back to haunt the market with a vengeance.

In other news, Chinese corporate fraudsters just came up with a new and improved excuse for misplacing their financial records: "we left it in the Tesla as it was charging and everything burned down."

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Fri, 01/01/2016 - 17:08 | 6986326 Arnold
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Been using the Karma named one with good result on ads..

Unable to judge tracking at this time.

Ghostry on top seems to jam my old linix, limited memory laptop.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 17:21 | 6986365 Otrader
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Firefox with ad block Plus.  Zero ads!

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 13:29 | 6985686 orangegeek
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The company should be called "Elon Musk Car Company" so this fucking asshole Musk can "fame his name" instead of hiding behind a world renouned scientist and real scientist, Nikoka Tesla.

 

FUCK YOU MUSK YOU PT-BARNUM LIKE PIECE OF SHIT!!!

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 13:32 | 6985698 RaceToTheBottom
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Maybe it is Norway's turn to give Tesla a bailout?

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 13:33 | 6985700 Allen_H
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Could they install it in airfarce one please, when he has all his most important terrorist advisors joining him. They can enjoy ChampFlame.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 13:41 | 6985717 Anopheles
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Lithium battery packs grounded all 787s a year ago because a couple burst into flames. 

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 13:33 | 6985702 Colonel Klink
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Elon Musk's cars undergo uncontrolled deconstruction, just like his rockets.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 13:44 | 6985715 Anopheles
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Just think, Musk wants you to buy his overpriced POWERWALL and put the same battery pack in your home.  

 

Powerwall = Jewish Lighting

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 13:49 | 6985732 kaboomnomic
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Well.. that is the risks when you put high power density lithium's battery inside such a tight space.

This is an example reports on lithium battery fires.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787_Dreamliner_battery_problems

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Now if you own a powerbanks that have capacities of over 10,000 mA? You already reached the same power density of that Tesla or Boeing batteries.

If you own that kind of powerbanks "big capacities" types? My suggestion is... DO NOT DROP THE POWERBANKS. Makes sure you have cushion on you bag (if you storaged it, in your bag).

And for pete sakes, do not put that big powerbanks in your pockets.

Why??

Cause that powerbanks batteries? Ise plastic roll over types
And the separations between positive and negative plates are so close, that an external shock (from hitting something. Like when you drop your bag to desk or floo risking this plates to have a short circuits! And that would creates intense hotspot that would ignates the lithium metals inside your battery!!

That why i limits my powerbanks to <5000 mA, because of that.

Cause

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 13:50 | 6985739 nmewn
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It's Gaaarrreeennn! and and and was socially .gov subsidized to the tune of 465 billion and and and really really socially elitist expensive and...stuff.

Fucking thieves.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 14:00 | 6985778 GhostOfDiogenes
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I don't know of any tech giants who have not gotten protection from the jewmerican government since 911.

Cui bono.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 13:52 | 6985747 FiatFapper
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Can someone explain the appeal of electric cars? Isn't it just pushing the pollution further up the energy chain? I can't see power stations going all green to accomodate the massive spike in electric usage.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 13:58 | 6985773 GhostOfDiogenes
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True.

Dino goo wars are better.(/sarc)

PS electronic cars are faster and more powerful than internal combustion engines.

You are an idiot, obviously....

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 14:05 | 6985789 bamawatson
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that's your answer for "explaining the appeal of eclectric cars"? rather weak. ZERO FACTS!

accompanied by the obligatory lame snotty personal attack

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 14:52 | 6985952 GhostOfDiogenes
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Here you go.

An electric car beats land speed record

http://youtu.be/lxKdUIEECN8

Sorry luddites.

Tesla was smarter than ford.

http://youtu.be/gx3ECDqOD4s

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 15:10 | 6985999 skinwalker
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You're a vegan. This means you have the intellectual capacity of a brain damaged child on bath salts. 

 

Why would I make such an outlandish claim? After 500 million years or so of animal evolution people come around, and like countless lifeforms before them eat meat. It's biology. It's reality. Vegans are dumbasses who think they can ignore biology, ignore reality, and make shit up as they go. You are what you are, and people who fight that usually have deep seated issues. 

 

Vegans are a lot like trannies, hopelessly confused individuals who think they can just change their entire physiology on some whim. Next thing we know you'll be trying to reassign your Y chromosome. Have fun with that. 

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 15:52 | 6986111 GhostOfDiogenes
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I have ignored reality since 1998.

I will continue to ignore the reality of the meat eating cult of death till I die.

I am a prisoner in the war on nature, and animals.

But I will not capitulate to the dark side and indulge in universal revolution against nauture, and I will laugh at you idiots who do.

And I will win in the end.

Because you reap what you sow.

PS Tesla was a vegan. Twain was a vegan. Pythagoras was a vegan. Da Vinci was a vegan.

They did works better than you will ever accompish. Or your family.

Sorry.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 15:57 | 6986126 Barnaby
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You sound unhinged, and you make the struggle harder. Meatbags will fail. That's the simple truth.

None of those humans was vegan. Also Sam would laugh at your attempt to twist things.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 18:52 | 6986610 GhostOfDiogenes
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A MACHINE TO END WAR
Liberty, February 1937 by Nikola Tesla as told to George Sylvester Viereck

"More people die or grow sick from polluted water than from coffee, tea, tobacco, and other stimulants."

Leonardo da Vinci Vegan Vegetarian
"The time will come when men such as I will look upon the murder of animals as they now look upon the murder of men." ~ Leonardo Da Vinci

"Non-violence leads to the highest ethics, which is the goal of all evolution. Until we stop harming all other living beings, we are still savages

~ Thomas Edison

"But for the sake of some little mouthful of flesh we deprive a soul of the sun and light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born into the world to enjoy." ~ Plutarch

"One farmer says to me, ‘You cannot live on vegetable food solely, for it furnishes nothing to make the bones with;’ and so he religiously devotes a part of his day to supplying himself with the raw material of bones; walking all the while he talks behind his oxen, which, with vegetable-made bones, jerk him and his lumbering plow along in spite of every obstacle." ~ Henry David Thoreau

"I believe I am not interested to know whether Vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn't. To know that the results are profitable to the race would not remove my hostility to it. The pains which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity towards it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." ~ Mark Twain

Haha! Vegan truther rape!

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 18:03 | 6986472 Vendetta
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Great white sharks have been carnivores for 150 million years minimum and are doing better than a lot of humans or even some who call themselves human.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 15:55 | 6986121 Barnaby
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No, vegans are misguided. Prebiotic material should be fair game.

Otherwise, vegans're all a bunch of hypocritical idiots, even worse than meatbags.

Furthermore, insects and insects of the sea should be on the menu. Unless every vegan ever can float around in space, they kill insects constantly just by walking. It's a part of life.

The point is, morality. Are you willing to kill just to survive?

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 16:07 | 6986143 Skateboarder
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Yogurt and cheese is the best stuff for the gut. Not Cheez Whiz though.... Poor vegans - living shittier lives by choice.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 14:13 | 6985820 Dragon HAwk
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Electric Cars are Quieter... the NSA can hear you better.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 14:23 | 6985848 lakecity55
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Hmmmm, where is the Coal going to come from to power the Power Plants to provide automobile electrons???

Oh, that's right, the Coal Miners voted for Bath House and voted themselves out of work!

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 15:23 | 6986034 nmewn
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Don't confuse the Gaaarreeens! any more than they already are LC. They still think the rare earths mined for solar panels are members of a 70's rock band that just appear from nowhere on the stage, easy peeezy.

It's Fairy Magic! ;-) 

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 16:14 | 6986160 I Write Code
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Well sure, but at least the power plant pollutes 100 miles away and downwind!

Electric cars are also advantageous because they use (almost) no power while standing at a red light or crawling in urban traffic, while many conventional cars use nearly as much to idle as they do at 30mph or better.  That can add up.

And on the top side, generally electric cars are capable of great acceleration for little extra engineering.

The capacity and reliability (and cost) of the battery is really the issue.

Also large scale fossil fuel plants are much more efficient than mobile internal combustion engines, so there's some slack to play with, generally goes beyond the transmission losses.

If the batteries were just a liitle bit better than the current generation lithium, electric cars might really catch on, especially in urban areas.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 16:19 | 6986177 css1971
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Average efficiency of a typical car in typical conditions is in the 10-15% range. Really good ones can get up into the 19% range.

Average overall efficiency of an electric vehicle depends on the power station so it can be anything from around 30% to 60%, for coal or gas turbines, or it can be irrelevant as for solar/wind/nuclear.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 16:49 | 6986282 Anopheles
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The actual efficiency of electric is much less than that.   There are both charging and discharge losses from the battery, transformer and line losses too.

Remember that lithium batteries need to be cooled, both when charging and discharging?  That's inefficiency.  The batteries also have a self discharge rate, and CONSTANTLY discharge.  That's more inefficiency. 

Imagine if you filled up the gas tank of your car and you constantly lost 20% of your gas per month, just sitting there. 

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 17:22 | 6986368 Iceobar
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I think you already prepaid that 20%....in transportation and refinery/storage costs of the oil/gas... and then there's the ISIS premium

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 18:47 | 6986597 L_Estasi_dell_Oro
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Electric *always* beats internal combustion engines in MPG. Even if you factor in charging and transmission losses.

 

See:

http://28oa9i1t08037ue3m1l0i861.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploa...

 

It comes from this excellent article:

http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/06/how-tesla-will-change-your-life.html

 

Hydrogen sucks too:

http://www.energypost.eu/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Hydrogen-vs-EV-redli...

Why a hydrogen economy doesn't make sense

http://phys.org/news/2006-12-hydrogen-economy-doesnt.html

 

 

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 18:42 | 6986580 L_Estasi_dell_Oro
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Pollution wise, electric cars are way more efficient than gasoline cars, even if the electric car is charged using electricity that has been generated by burning coal.

 

It's because electric motors are very efficient, power plants are quit efficient and combustion engines are just generating more heat than movement.

 

Even a "coal-powered" electric car has a MPG equivalent that is at least equal to an efficient hybrid.

 

Added benefits:

 

- pollution further up the chain does not solve everything, but it sure is better than having exhaust pipes spewing toxic fumes in the middle of cities, right under the level where we walk and breathe.

 

- you can make the cars more "green" by changing the energy production end and you don't have to change motors/engines to do so. See the missery of VW of having to physically modify thousands and thousands of cars to reduce emission levels. If you swap a power plant more and more towards nuclear, wind, solar, tidal... the electric cars do not need to change. They just keep saying "Thanks for that juice!".

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 14:01 | 6985783 yogibear
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Elon Musk can advertise as being really hot. So hot they self-destruct.

Good car for the government as they keep manufacturing and jobs going to replace after burining up.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 14:21 | 6985844 lakecity55
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Maybe they secretly design a % to burn up for job security. Bath House bought a lot of them for .politburo.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 14:11 | 6985811 silverer
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"...the car could serve as a very quick and efficient, if quite toxic, source of heating."

Electric cars make the environment cleaner.  Oh, wait!

 

 

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 14:19 | 6985832 lakecity55
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You can't charge those batts when the ambient temperature is too cold.

Lead-Acid, wet cells are dangerous also. If your battery is sulphated and there is a lot of H2O in the cells, it will freeze and burst the batt. Check the cells with a hydrometer or get a desulphator.

Cold weather is a time to be careful with your batteries, no matter what type. Hope the guy was insured.

These new climate-correct cars are way more toxic than regular cars, but the cachet is I am Better Than You Are.

Having worked extensively with batts, I have the opinion these exotic electric cars are just not up to snuff. They have way moar toxic crap in them, then you have a problem with recycling them when they wear out!

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 15:09 | 6985996 FiatFapper
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It's ironic that they are trying to extol the virtues of electric cars with formula E. I say ironic, because they have an eDJ to provide noise and stop half-way to swap cars as the battery capacity is way too short. The cars are also noticeably slower, so I struggle to see their appeal other than a test-bed for further development.

They've also bastardised Formula 1 with the advent of hybrid power and KERS (kinetic energy recovery system) and they now sound like golf-carts with similar speed; bring back V12 power units as it's a spectator sport.

I agree lakecity55, these batteries are barely proof-of-concept that lack power and performance, let alone the environmental impact of mining the exotic materials needed.

Perhaps one solution is induction; a metal track embedded in the road and each car is powered by induced EMF.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 15:30 | 6986058 css1971
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Why would you waste your life watching something as mind numbingly boring as Formula 1?

Watch the Southern 100 instead. Compared to these guys everyone else on the planet are a bunch of pussies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU-ynRoqDEs

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 16:54 | 6986297 Anopheles
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Lithium cells shouldn't be charged when they are below freezing.    Discharge is OK, but not charging.  That goes for all lithium batteris, including cell phones. 

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 14:33 | 6985897 Suleyman
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On the qualitative positive side for electric cars - you could escape a tunnel fire, because the motor runs without oxygen.

 

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 16:52 | 6986288 Anopheles
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How long would you last in a tunnel fire?

It's not the heat or lack of oxygen that kills you, it's one or two breaths of that toxic smoke from burning plastics, rubber, paint, etc, that kill you. 

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 14:35 | 6985903 falak pema
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Lithium batteries are not beyond spontaneous !

Shades of Dubai fireworks.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 14:39 | 6985912 Barnaby
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Just like hoverboards, small powerbanks or even phone cells (notably by Samsung), overcharge is fatal and possibly catastrophic. I would think if one buys a $150k car, he'd pony up 5 grand for a premium charge controller.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 14:45 | 6985928 ZakuKommander
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Quickly, Tyler, with the "horror" in Dubai, we need an article about the necessity of recalling skyscrapers!!!!!  Unacceptable risks!!!!!!!!!!!

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 15:07 | 6985987 Conax
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Billions of dollars have been spent over more than a hundred years to build a viable electric car.

The newest iterations have all the slick creature comforts of other cars but still lack the economy, practicality, range and end-of-tank performance of gasoline powered cars. 

Keep slugging away at it, the battery advances would eventually make it all worthwhile in many other aspects of our lives.

One thing to remember is that if everyone drove electric cars, gasoline would still be produced in massive quantities. It is a byproduct of the refining process. You can't make asphalt or plastics without extracting the volatiles including lots of gasoline.

Before internal combustion engines were used, the fires burned night and day.

 

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 15:47 | 6986092 Barnaby
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Mmm, no, but nice ideas. Great start for a thesus. (sic)

It comes down to this: why do we move our human meat so much?

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 21:44 | 6987016 Conax
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http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/02/24/gasoline-used-to-be-considered-garbage/

http://www.greatachievements.org/?id=3677

"Heavier kerosene, with more carbon atoms per molecule and a higher boiling point, was thus easily separated from lighter gasoline, with fewer atoms and a lower boiling point, as well as from other hydrocarbon compounds and impurities in the crude oil mix.  Kerosene was the keeper; gasoline and other compounds as well as natural gas that was often found alongside oil deposits, were often just burned off."

They should be paying us for their waste disposal. Modern cars burn it very cleanly, open fires not so much.

It will be a while before something else replaces the best motor fuel the world ever found.

It's gotta go someplace, it might as well provide efficient travel at low cost.

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 16:37 | 6986234 Anopheles
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There's lots of leeway when you build a $100k electric car. 

Real success is building one for $20k. 

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 16:23 | 6986193 Volkodav
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Please tell how super expensive elect car is economical feasible?

simple math. please

elect is not free, not even close, nothing cheaper than petrol for other work...

 

 

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 16:30 | 6986211 surf@jm
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And let me guess....Insurance will try to get out of covering the loss claiming its an experimental car....

And if they lose the resulting lawsuit, they will offer 10 cents on the dollar for depreciation.....

Fri, 01/01/2016 - 16:36 | 6986221 Lookout Mountain
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The Tesla is a wonderful niche car. Great comfort and performance. But silly thing can't go very far with that short extension cord. Would love to own one for the shere pleasure. But it’s not practical, yet. 

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