One American's Rage Spills Over: Dear Liberal... Here's Why I'm So Hostile
Submitted by Jeremy Choate via Sufficient Reason blog,
This essay is a bit of departure from my usually reasonable and logical approach to important issues. That’s not to say that the essay isn’t well-reasoned and is bereft of logical argumentation, but I freely admit that it’s polemical, in nature. Sometimes you’re just pissed, and you need to vent. Here’s my vent…
Lately, I must admit that my hostility towards your political ilk has ramped up, pretty dramatically. No, it’s not because we, at this point in my life, have a half-black president in the White House, and I’m some closet racist who is becoming increasingly frustrated at the prospects of the White Man’s power slipping through my fingers. I know that you’ve accused our side of such nonsense, and the thought keeps you warm at night, but I can assure you that it is a comfortable fiction of which you should probably divest yourself.
Now before I waste too much of your time, let’s establish who I’m talking to. If you believe that we live in an evil, imperialist nation from its founding, and you believe that it should be “fundamentally transformed”, lend me your ears. If you believe that the free market is the source of the vast majority of society’s ills and wish to have more government intervention into it, I’m talking to you. If you believe that health care is a basic human right and that government should provide it to everyone, you’re the guy I’m screaming at. If you think minorities cannot possibly survive in this inherently racist country without handouts and government mandated diversity quotas, you’re my guy. If you believe that rich people are that way because they’ve exploited their workers and acquired wealth on the backs of the poor, keep reading. Pretty much, if you trust government more than your fellow American, this post is for you.
First of all, let me say that we probably agree on more things than you think. Even between Tea Party Patriots and Occupy Wall-Streeters, I’ve observed a common hatred of the insidious alliance between big business and big government. As Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI) so correctly noted, government should never be in the business of picking winners and losers in corporate America, and no person, organization, union, or corporation should have their own key to the back door of our government.
Second, contrary to popular belief, conservatives really are concerned with the plight of the poor in this nation. You accuse us of being uncompassionate, hateful, racist, and greedy, but studies have shown that when it comes to charitable giving, conservatives are at least (if not more, depending on the study you read) as generous as liberals in caring for the poor. The difference between us is not in our attitude towards the problem – it’s our attitude towards the solution. We believe that the government does practically nothing well (since without competition or a profit motive there is no incentive to do well) and has made the plight of the poor far worse than it would have ever been had government never gotten involved. For a stark example of this, look no farther than the condition of the black family in America since the “War on Poverty” began. You believe that more government is the answer, and that if we only throw more money at the problem, the problem will go away. We believe, as Reagan so aptly stated,
Government is not the solution to our problems; government is the problem.
Third, as people who might actually have to avail ourselves of a doctor’s services at some point in our lives, we are just as concerned with the condition of America’s healthcare system as you are. While we believe that America has the world’s most capable physicians, has the world’s most innovative pharmaceutical industry, and is on the cutting edge of medical technology, we also understand that the delivery system is far from perfect. However, unlike you, we see a grave danger in turning the administration of that delivery system over to the same entity that is responsible for giving us the United States Postal Service. There are private sector solutions that should certainly be explored before we kill the system, altogether, by giving it to the government to run.
Now that we’ve touched on a couple of points of common ground, allow me to explain my aggressiveness towards your efforts to implement your progressive agenda. First, let’s talk about the word “progressive”, since you now seem to prefer that word to “liberal”. In order to label something as progressive or regressive, one must have some idea as to what constitutes progress. What is the ideal towards which you are striving? An idea is considered progressive if it moves us closer to the ideal and regressive if it moves us further away. So, what is your ideal society?
Though I can’t begin to discern the thoughts of every liberal who may read this, nor can I assume that every liberal has the same notion of an ideal society, in my arguments with liberals over the years, I couldn’t help but notice the influence that FDR’s Second Bill of Rights has had in shaping the beliefs of the modern liberal with regards to domestic policy. The rights that FDR cited are:
- The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;
- The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;
- The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;
- The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;
- The right of every family to a decent home;
- The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;
- The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;
- The right to a good education.
At this point, you’re probably screaming, “Right on!!”, and who can blame you? What sane person in the world doesn’t want everyone to be gainfully employed, adequately fed, smartly clothed, appropriately sheltered, and properly educated? These are the goals of every moral society on the planet, however we cannot ignore the fundamental question of, “At what cost?”
I’m not sure whether FDR was a shallow thinker or simply a shrewd, Machiavellian politician, but the fact that he framed each of these ideals as a human right should be troubling to every freedom-loving person in America. After all, what does it mean for something to be a human right? Doesn’t it mean that it’s something to which you are entitled simply by virtue of your being human? Let’s think about some of the basic rights that the real Bill of Rights delineates: freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom to petition the government, freedom to bear arms, freedom from illegal search and seizure, etc.
If you’re moderately intelligent and intellectually honest, you’ll quickly see what separates the rights laid out in the real Bill of Rights from those laid out in FDR’s misguided list – none of the rights listed above require the time, treasure, or talents of another human being. Your right to speak requires nothing from anyone else. Your right to practice your religion requires nothing from any of your fellow citizens. Your right to bear arms means that you are allowed to possess weapons to defend yourself and your family, but it makes no demand that a weapon be provided to you by anyone. A true human right is one that you possess, even if you’re the only person on the entire planet – and it is unconditional.
FDR’s list is no “Bill of Rights”. It’s a list of demands. If I have a right to a job, doesn’t that mean that one must be provided to me? If I have a right to adequate food, clothing, and recreation, doesn’t that mean that I am entitled to those things, and someone should provide them to me? If I have an inherent right to a decent home, once again, doesn’t that mean it should be provided to me, regardless of my ability to afford one or build one for myself?
You might protest that FDR only meant that we have the right to pursue those things, but that’s not what he said, and why would he? If we live in a free society, our right to pursue those things is self-evident, is it not? Besides, if he only believed in our right to pursue those things, he would not have felt the need to implement the New Deal.
You may be getting anxious, now, wondering what FDR’s Second Bill of Rights has to do with my antipathy towards your political philosophy. It’s quite simple – your political beliefs are a threat to liberty – not just for me, but for my three boys and their children as well. I care much less about the America that I’m living in at this very moment than I do about the one that I’m leaving Nathaniel, Charlie, and Jackson.
How does your political bent threaten my and my sons personal liberty, you ask? In your irrational attempt to classify things such as clothing, shelter, health care, employment, and income as basic human rights, you are placing a demand upon my time, my treasure, and my talents. If you believe that you have a right to health care, and you are successful in persuading enough shallow thinkers to think as you do, then it will place a demand upon me to provide it to you. If you believe that you have a right to a job, and more than half of America agrees with you, as a business owner, I am obligated to provide one to you, even if it means making my business less profitable.
The fact is, you can rail against my conservatism all you wish. You can make fun of my Tea Party gatherings, and you can ridicule patriots in tri-corner hats until you wet yourself from mirth, but one thing is for certain: my political philosophy will NEVER be a threat to your freedom. If you feel a burning responsibility to the poor, conservatism will never prevent you from working 80 hours per week and donating all of your income to charity. If you feel a strong sense of pity for a family who cannot afford health insurance, my political philosophy will never prevent you from purchasing health insurance for this family or raising money to do so, if you cannot afford it, personally. If you are moved with compassion for a family who is homeless, a conservative will never use the police power of government to prevent you from taking that family in to your own home or mobilizing your community to build one for them.
However, you cannot say the same for liberalism. If I choose not to give to the poor for whatever reason, you won’t simply try to persuade me on the merits of the idea – you will seek to use the government as an instrument of plunder to force me to give to the poor. If we are walking down the street together and we spot a homeless person, using this logic, you would not simply be content with giving him $20 from your own pocket – you would hold a gun to my head and force me to give him $20, as well.
Everything that modern liberalism accomplishes is accomplished at the barrel of a government rifle. You do not trust in the generosity of the American people to provide, through private charity, things such as clothing, food, shelter, and health care, so you empower the government to take from them and spend the money on wasteful, inefficient, and inadequate government entitlement programs. You do not trust in the personal responsibility of the average American to wield firearms in defense of themselves and their families, so you seek to empower the government to criminalize the use and possession of firearms by private citizens. Everytime you empower the government, you lose more of your personal liberty – it’s an axiomatic truth.
What angers me the most about you is the eagerness with which you allow the incremental enslavement to occur. You are the cliched and proverbial frog in the pot who has actually convinced himself that he’s discovered a big, silver jacuzzi. Somehow, you’re naive enough to believe that one more degree of heat won’t really matter that much.
I have the utmost respect for a slave who is continuously seeking a path to freedom. What I cannot stomach is a free man who is continuous seeking a path to servitude by willingly trading his freedom for the false sense of security that government will provide.
I am reminded of Samuel Adams’ impassioned speech where he stated:
“If ye love wealth (or security) better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!”
Servitude can exist in a free society, but freedom cannot exist in a slave nation. In a free country, you have the liberty to join with others of your political ilk and realize whatever collectivist ideals you can dream up. You can start your own little commune where the sign at the front gate says, “From each according to his ability; to each according to his need”, and everyone can work for the mutual benefit of everyone else. In my society, you have the freedom to do that.
In your society, I don’t have the same freedom. If your collectivism offends me, I am not free to start my own free society within its borders. In order for collectivism to work, everyone must be on board, even those who oppose it – why do you think there was a Berlin Wall?
In conclusion, just know that the harder you push to enact your agenda, the more hostile I will become – the harder I will fight you. It’s nothing personal, necessarily. If you want to become a slave to an all-powerful central government, be my guest. But if you are planning to take me and my family down with you, as we say down here in the South, I will stomp a mud-hole in your chest and walk it dry.
Bring it.
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It is game on...Marine going to protest in Oregon...almost saying bood bye to his family. Big Balls... 12 minute mark "We need real men here.."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbGdMKpHDDE
What a fool.
Dear conservative, you take all of our money and spend it on war. Then you blame us for High taxes. You proclaim that you are a rugged individual, and yet all i see is football, fratboys, imitating country/western music videos, imitating bass pro shops catalogs and imitating j crew catalogs and the military and police. Not very individualistic. you blame welfare for bankrupting and deswtroying america but it is very obvious warfare is the thing to blame. When the government comes to take our guns it is not the meter maids and the school teachers and the trash collecters... it is the police and military. indeed the right have always been the ones to grab guns and not the left. etc etc etc.
Huh?
Dear Hostile.
Liberal don't care. he don't hate,
he just patronize, and indoctrinate
@THX You forgot Banks are biggestcwelfare recipients. Ask Hank Paulson, with his hat in hand to Congress, begging for 800 billion to bailout AIG, for Hanks Goldman counter party bets. Privitized profits, socialized losses
Oh and left and right are Dr Suess Star belly on Star belly off, false dichotomy bullshit.
"What sane person in the world doesn’t want everyone to be gainfully employed, adequately fed, smartly clothed, appropriately sheltered, and properly educated?"
The problem is, you have to get off your dead ASS and EARN it. Government isn't going to be able to hand it to you. Unless its on the back of SOMEONE ELE'S HARD WORK.
Are we there yet?
Gainfully employed: not enough work/jobs
Adequately fed: Obesity rules
Smartly clothed: We can’t all dress like players
Appropriately Sheltered: Mortgaged up to our ass
Properly Educated: Student loan debt $1T
"Gainfully employed: not enough work/jobs"
Sorry, there's more jobs out there than you think, even good paying jobs. You just have to be willing to work at it and move up the ladder. I am going to need two managers at my business of 160 people soon, and I dont have one prospect in my company to take over either position. No one wants to work for it. THey all want to work for 10 bucks an hour and collect a big check from Uncle Sam at tax time (earned income tax credit). Look at all the lazy kids around today. They would rather stay home than work for $10 bucks an hour flipping burgers. Guess what, my generation did that shit. Even big corporations like McDonalds have higher paying jobs. But if you are still 40 years old working a till, thats your problem, not mine.
1) if the entry level jobs don't pat enough to pay rent and eat you are still fucked. So you've worked the five years at McDonald's or whatever it takes to move up the ladder... you now are in a position in which your kids don't have medical benefits or food if you take that promotion because it still doesn't pay enough for that but it's too much to keep getting benefits. I know more than one person stuck in exactly that loop.
2) off the system is an excellent form of resistance. We're not going to be able to take it down by direct means.
3) obviously you enjoy your enslavement. We live in a planet sized forced labor camp and I can't say I'm terribly interested in perpetuating it.
First of all, if you have worked 5 years at McDonalds why do you have kids? First thing is, getting yourself financially stable BEFORE you have kids. You think kids are cheap? You just put yourself into deeper debt slave serfdom by having kids to early, or having too many kids. I graduated from school with an aviation degree, I lived on $250 A MONTH. And I didn't take any government freebies either. My wife had a job and we made it go. And we owned our own home, it was small but it was new. After 2.5 years of flying for a charter service I still wasn't making $10k per year, and I was flying passengers in weather and to most states east of the Mississipi river. I had a job with lots of responsibilities even though I was young. And still my wife and I never took a government handout. Most people can't wait to go out in the real world and live beyond their means right out of school. ANd then they want .gov to make me pay more, for their piss poor decisions. Yes we do live in a forced labor camp, but you can minimize its impact. I just don't appreciate the people who make piss poor decisions in life, using government to take away what I have worked hard for.
one can argue endlessly about the definitions of liberal and conservative but in the two party world of the u.s. certainly since i've paid attention (somewhere in the sixties) they both accomplish big government at the point of a gun.
and in the last couple of decades, looking at what they do not what they say or the "vibe" they try to broadcast, they are increasingly indistinguishable in the other ways as well.
Then DON'T HAVE THE KIDS UNTIL YOU CAN AFFORD THEM!! I am 60yo and didn't have kids until I knew that I could support them, my wife and myself which was age 40. Noone has any patience any more. Everything is NOW, NOW,NOW!
I feel sorry for people who waste their time and life thinking there is some alterior motive than control by government no matter what color socks they are wearing. Can you imagine how much time and effort is wasted on controlled opposition? Imagine what could be done with this kind of time and effort.
If you cant take care of yourself you cant say no and you cant take care of anyone else. No liar on tee vee gan GIVE that to you. You have to take it.
I dont have to interfere with anothers rights to take care of myself. If ANYONE tries to forbid me to do that would I be defending my life to prevent it. Think about that.
RIPS
The more money you earn, the more is stolen from you with a threat of violence to support the threat of violence!
Best to live small and enjoy the extra time you have doing something you enjoy more than working.
I'm a big fan of getting out into the woods - hiking, shooting a bow, dinner over a fire or hitting the trails on my mountain bike. Keeps me sane(ish) and fit.
Food on the table, clothes on your back, a roof over your head and enough spare time to appreciate that are all you really need.
Used to work next door to an accountant. He drove a fancy Mercedes and had a big house. Worked about 14 hours a day, in a poky little office with his fancy car parked outside. Seemed somehow pointless, to me.
He should add that the gov't is a monopoly that doesn't have to turn a profit.
you mean earn it like wall street and congress ????? How about "earn" it like a banker ????? You are so fucking far from reality. i wish someone would beam your ass up !!!!!!
2016: The year of rage.
Lets direct the rage where it belongs and not at each other. Don't fall for the divide and conquer routine. Left & Right have more in common than most think.
I really and truly would like to believe that. But what exactly do right and left have in common?
Contain (not necessarily bomb) radical Islam (my position) is the right wing position, invite them in and give them free shit is the lefts.
Stop Illegal immigration (my position) is the right wing position, the left wants more immigrants
End corporate welfare (my position), is the left wing position, the right doesnt seem to think its an issue.
Audit the FED (my position),is a far left wing position, the right (most of it) doesnt seem to think its an issue
Healthcare is a civil right, the position of both right and left doesnt agree with mine.
A College education should be free or heavily subsidized, both right and left agree, just different ways of doing it (unpayable Tuitiions is the problem, being addressed by unpayable loans (right) or throw it on the tax payer).
Address the 0.001 percent of the affluent (my position), is left, right doesnt seem to think its an issue.
Global warming is not a scientific fact (my position), is right, the left wants a carbon tax
Address the FSA, by limiting the handouts is right, the left says we dont do enough
Stop globalism - the left wants to achieve globalism via Government control, the right wants to achieve it via corporate control.
Size of government - The left wants to grow it, and the right doesnt want to trim its rate of growth
Not sure I can find a single issue that the right and left agree on..... If my world view is F'ed let me know, because I am starting to wonder if I am sane.
I missed a few:
Let me add abortion (I am pro choice), which is left and the right is pro life.
Affirmative action should be ended (right), affirmative action should be expanded and reparations for slavery considered (left).
Gun control is being able to hit your target (right), guns are evil left.
After alot of contemplation, I believe that there is one issue that right and left can agree on, Obama sucks.
Left and right only need to agree on two things, and, from what I've seen, they do;
Cut off corporate charity and ownership of government.
Cut off MIC charity and ownership of government.
All the rest of your lists and the authors grievences are trivial compared to the corporate & military vampires sucking the life out of the planet.
Unfortunately, cutting off the vampires will prove impossible.
Right will never curtail the MIC.
The left loves big corporations as the control the media andinternet and enable leftist ideals. Google Facebook Apple twitter tesla are all darlings of the left and wouldn't exist without the deep state.
People can only control their government through economics, our choices as to our work and our spending. It is through debt that government has been able to suck the wealth and liberty from society. Taxpayers would never stand for the level of taxation required to sustain this level of spending, and it can only happen through money printing and debt, which is subtle theft.
it's the people I'm talking about, not the parties. By your own admission, some of your viewpoints would be considered left, some right. I think I'm the same. That's the point I'm trying to make. Not everyone can be labeled or should be. You look at an issue and decide what's the best solution. Regardless of views on certain issues, I think the majority of people can agree on some major issues. We want to end the Fed and want to end the MIC and their never ending wars. They are bankrupting all of us. The Tea Party and Occupy Wall Street groups both wanted similar things.
There are most definitely left and right ideologies, it is just that the political party's USE these ideologies to divide and define themselves, much as different football teams all have the same goals and methods, while displaying different colored uniforms and monikers.
We can all agree to disagree while also acknowledging that those "parties" who claim to represent us and our ideals do neither.
Jeremy Choate (author): conservatives really are concerned with the poor. …conservatives are at least as generous as liberals in caring for the poor. The difference between us is …. We believe that the government does practically nothing well (since without competition or a profit motive there is no incentive to do well).
Mr. Choate, government intervention, profit, retirement obligations, growth ARE THE PROBLEMS.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function" — Albert Bartlett
Exponential, By KOBE BEEF, at Zero Hedge:
A modern nation under fiat debt control is akin to a people farm. In the initial part of the cycle, the extension of fiat credit allows for the expansion of the farm, investments in infrastructure, and progresses toward the rearing and shearing of greater numbers of consumer livestock.
The farm grows. Debt grows. Payments received for debt grow. But, due to the laws of diminishing returns and compounding interest, the farm eventually reaches a point where shearing the existing stock no longer pays for the interest demanded by the creditors. The farm, while remaining somewhat productive, is rendered unprofitable.
In this phase of the cycle, the operations of the farm tends toward skinning the livestock, with no attention paid to growing the herd or maintaining its condition. At the final stage in the cycle, the farm and all its flock must be liquidated. The land is cleared, and the cycle can begin again.
The liquidation phase is called war. We are not seeing desperation here, but rather the planned liquidation of a farm by creditors who explicitly profess people to be nothing more than cattle.
Our democratically-elected/creditor-selected managers are complicit in the process. End the credit, end the cycle. Eliminate the creditors, or be slaughtered anew.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-27/nato-deploy-tanks-eastern-europe-shortly-after-vp-europarliament-says-ukraine-russia#comment-5495497
EI: cool to see somebody quoting Al Bartlett. he gave that exponential lecture thousands of times, and opened up quite a few eyes. (he was physics prof when i was in grad school, i even worked as a TA under him for a year....nice guy.)
Not certain that I agree with you...
Excellent and credible suggestions for thought though.
Considerations of timelines and cycles have always fascinated me.
Free Corzine first progs...
Dear misled,
Does a "bailout" wind up creating a profit or is it an investment by gun point? That's rhetorical so spare yourself the wasted retort.
I think it is very obvious that the right are the ones who centralize power and control, tax the shit out of the american people and spend it on illegal wars that make the poeople whose countrires we invade very angry. I think it is obvious the right are the colectivistic ones and the left are the individualistic ones. I think it is obvious the right tax way more than the left. and yet everyone in America for some reason thinks it is the onther way around... and this is a perfect example of projection (blaming others for that thing you are guilty of). The right blames the left for everything that the right is guilty of and the left isnt... and now everyone has come to believe it. This stupid fucking article reads like a middle school boy bully blaming his victim for the beating. The right are cartoonishly fucking collectivistic. Think of it this way: for the past 15 years they have believed the official story of 9/11 and everything else and have invaded multip[le foreign countries and killed millions of people to be found there... but its ok because they are military with shaved faces and crew cuts so its ok for some reason. I mean this is a NAZI hivemind we are dealing with... and they are blaming the left dor everything they do.
It aint defense spending its OFFENSE spending. and it eats up 57% of our tax dollars. Not to mention the trillions and trillions we charge to the national credit card for WAR... but noOOOOO lets blame food stamps.
This ^^^
No this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S._Federal_Spending_-_FY_2011.png
Illustrated in terms even a prog can understand. *sniff*
Yes, defense can be eliminated. But, but, look that's only 17% of the proggie problem. And we haven't even begun to discuss the state and local scheisters. You people represent a clear and present danger-at least to me anyway.
Oh Bullshit, THX, your buddy Obama has taken the Bush baton and RAN with it. Why do you think we are in Syria, and are dropping a bombs to this day??? Your liberal friends who were all anti war when Bush was president are all EERILY silent today. Why is that????
Right Wing Neocons ?
Uhhh. I'm anti war right now. And so are most of the liberals I know. Understand that ISIS only exists becuase we invaded IRaq in 2003 and destroyed the shit out of the infrastructure and left a vacuum to be filled. I'm against ISIS only because I know they are a creation of the US gov and funded by CIA. I think obama is not to blame for ISIS. Thats not to say obama is my buddy...
Thats right, your BELOVED government, the one you want to hand EVEN MORE power too, is the creator of ISIS. And people like you bitch about health insurance companies, who you can sue BTW if you have a dispute with them, in favor of single payor health insurance paid for by Uncle Sam. Guess what Uncle Sam is going to tell you when you have a dispute with him over your healthcare? Hes going to tell you to PISS OFF.
I dont want to hand more money to the MIlitary and CIA dude.
scotty plays all sides......
Who do you want to hand money to? Real question no joke.
http://www.worldvision.org
Get thee hence, and alleviate some suffering.
Then stop being a leftard. Socialism/communism is inherently parasitic and inevitably starts warmongering as their little gooberment "utopia's" collapse.
Argue away fucking fuckwads. Meantime, the small group of masters who, threw you this divisive bone, is out and about, still stealing your property.
Fucking useful rubes.
Argue away fucking fuckwads. Meantime, the small group of masters who, threw you this divisive bone, is out and about, still stealing your property.
Fucking useful rubes.
57% of tax dollars? Ummmmm... bullshit. I agree it is too much, but I've told you a million times.....don't exaggerate!
Fiat Currency Printings a TAX....wheres that represented?
Im looking for an industry that doesnt work for the govt, isnt subsidised by the govt and has more clients than just the govt.
Have fun looking.
RIPS
Inflation is a tax.
Fiat printing is FRAUD.
+1
Fiat is fraud.
Its a theft..the debasement of the honest currency is a tax.
RIPS
You see the US military-industrial spending world in a false paradigm of Left/Right. They both have been captured by the fascist globocorpocrisy. If the Left were serious about shrinking the US military and disengaging from permawar, the White Housenigger would have called the soliders home from Iraq/Syria/Afganistan, etc. He has not. The President sets foreign policy. Obama has EXPANDED the US' participation in global war. So you arent seeing the problem correctly (beyond noting the waste and tyranny involved in US prospection of permanent global warfare). And you CERTAINLY arent seeing the Lying Left's contribution to the problem.