Montel Williams Calls For "Shoot To Kill" In Oregon Showdown; Militiamen Respond They Are "Ready To Fight"
In the latest development in the ongoing saga of Ammon Bundy's seizure of a Federal wildlife reuge office in Oregon, the members of the militia said they're ready to fight, but they won't say what they would actually do if federal authorities try to remove them by force as reported in the clip below.
However, while we noted the shortcomings in Bundy's latest standoff last night, what is even more notable is that as Shepard Ambellas of Intellihub points out, Montel Williams he tweeted that the National Guard should be mobilized to “kill” protesters who have currently overtaken the federal building in Burns, Oregon.
Then let's give them some - put this down using National Guard with shoot to kill orders. https://t.co/KSzUZzUor6
— Montel Williams (@Montel_Williams) January 3, 2016
Moreover USA Today has reported that “militia members used the ranchers as a ruse,” in what I and others feel may be the planed catalyst to start a civil war in America.
Monday, Rick Jervis wrote:
The Oregon sheriff whose county is at the heart of an anti-government call-to-arms said Sunday the group occupying a national wildlife refuge came to town under false pretenses.
Sheriff David Ward said protesters came to Harney County, in southeastern Oregon, “claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers.” In reality, he said, “these men had alternative motives to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States.”
In a statement issued Sunday afternoon, Ward said he was working with local and federal authorities to resolve the situation as quickly and peacefully as possible.
Intellihub adds that its staff has identified a few suspicious individuals who claim to stand with the militants which may attempt to provocateur, escalate, the situation further. As we noted last night, this also is a distinct possibility.
Finally, in an interesting tangent, the WaPo, which admits that there "are gun rights issues, religious overtones, broad strains of anti-government sentiment and even the tactics of the Occupy Wall Street movement" as underlying motives behind the seizure, focuses on "very particular question of how much land the government controls in the state -- the same question that animated the dispute with rancher Cliven Bundy in Nevada two years ago -- and that helped motivate Bundy's son Ammon to take a lead role in the Oregon standoff."
It then provides several charts, alongside the following analysis, to show this curious aspect of what may be the core motive behind Bundy's actions. To wit:
More than half of Oregon is owned by the federal government, with a large percentage of that land owned by the Bureau of Land Management -- an agency widely reviled in the West and known by its acronym, BLM. (Ammon Bundy was forced to clarify on Twitter that his use of "BLM" didn't refer to the Black Lives Matter movement.) Data from the U.S. Geological Survey shows the amount of federal land in the state.
(This map and the ones below only show areas of 600 or more acres held by the government.)
The takeover occurred near Malheur Lake, at a building that's part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. That lake is at the upper center of the BLM's map of the surrounding area, which shows just how much is controlled by the government. (The original protests over the Hammonds' sentencing began in Burns, Ore.)
Part of the issue is that there isn't much population in the eastern part of the state. Mapping Oregon's population, you can see Portland and a corridor near the coast, which is about it. The area around the wildlife refuge has almost no population.
There's a historic link between population and federal land ownership. In 2012, the Congressional Research Service looked at the history of tensions between the government and the population out West -- particularly ranchers and farmers who, like the Hammonds and Bundys, use federal land for grazing and other purposes.
Early in the history of the country, the government took over land that was then distributed to citizens for farming and economic growth. As the United States expanded westward, the land was increasingly inhospitable, including the Rockies and the deserts of Nevada and Utah. By the end of the 19th century, a new focus was placed on conserving the land, with Yellowstone becoming the first national park in 1872. At that point, very few people lived in the area, as this 1890 Census Bureau map suggests.
Over the course of the 20th century, the government's emphasis shifted away from releasing the land to private citizens and toward managing it itself. The passage of 1976's Federal Land Policy and Management Act made that policy concrete, keeping the land as the property of the government. After the federal government's shift, there was a push from some in the West, including governors and members of Congress, to shift control from the federal to the state or local government. The Sagebrush Rebellion, as it was known, tapered off during the relative friendly administration of Ronald Reagan.
The longstanding political and legal dispute was summarized in more depth by the conservative Heritage Foundation, but the Congressional Research Service makes one additional point that's important to consider.
"From the earliest days," the CRS researchers write, "these policy views took on East/West overtones, with easterners more likely to view the lands as national public property, and westerners more likely to view the lands as necessary for local use and development."
That's one reason for the objection from Westerners. The other is that the lock-down on the land came after the East was heavily settled but before the West had been. In the East, land was turned over to farmers. In the West, settled later in the country's history, there were fewer people to hand it to.
Compare the Dakotas to Oregon, for example. In 1910, here's how the population was distributed. Even the Dakotas had pockets of population.
It's still sparsely populated.
But very little of the land is federal.
On that 1910 map, notice that Nevada has very little population -- thanks in part to its landscape being even less hospitable than the Dakotas. Its population is still small, save Reno and Las Vegas.
The vast majority of the land -- including the land around the Bundy ranch -- is owned by the government to this day.
The conclusion: "The fight isn't new, as the Congressional Research Service report notes. What's new is the way in which the broader political moment has cross-pollinated with longstanding objections to how the government manages land out West. The takeover in Oregon has its roots in the Sagebrush Rebellion. They way it's being manifested, though, is as modern as it gets."
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It remains to be seen if the National Guard will take up Montel on his "shoot to kill" advice.
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"Owned" by the federal government.
LOLZ
Black Riot - "Give them room to destroy"
White Riot - "Shoot to kill"
"Owned" by the federal government.
First the timing was suspicious and now Montel Williams? This stinks, it's probably what they wanted to start with that drill this summer but it got to much attention. Trucks everywhere flying flags in AZ all of the sudden, it may be in support of the ranch I'm not sure. Our leaders are treacherous pricks!
Did I fall asleep and miss something? Is Montel now the new 'Nigger In Charge'? Will we now get to see Obozo hawking payday loans like a shameless whore?
Apparently no one gives a shit about Zero Hedge's notice on racism anymore?
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Go ahead and report it, bucket lips.
#BlackLiesMatter
I'm not black you fucking moron.
Rule limiting speech, violates the First Amendment and therefore have no weight legally. That notice is there to satisfy a federal mandate nothing more. And if you don't like it, you can go someplace else, nobody is forcing you to be here.
Thanks Cleatus, for clearing that one up!
I noticed you assholes didn't start showing up until 4-6 months ago.
Probably because this is one of the only real unbaised newsource there is, and actually ran favorable stories on Trump?
Then all you fucking uneducated white trash started posting and fucking it all up. This isn't a right wing asshole forum, it's you who should go somewhere else.
Defending the First amendment sure does rile you up don't it. I defend the freedom of speech and you call me a white trash right wing asshole. I don't like Trump and see him as a bad choice, just like all the other choices we're going to get in November. If I could, I would tell you this to your face. But you'd more likely be too scared to show up.
So why don't you go eat Obama's dick.
You don't even understand the first amendment you toad.
Freedom of religion, speech, the press, assembly and redress. I think I got it. What you don't understand is hate speech is still speech and you cannot limit it. Period. You don't have to like or agree with it. You can scream against it, but you can't stop it. Walk away or argue against by all means, but the right to not be offended does not exist. Freedom means even the assholes get to be free too. Can you process that? Or did your hair just rustle from the concept whizzing by you?
And what do you have against toads, they seem a respectable animal. A toad understands freedom better than you do. Do you think the toad wants a Heron to eat it? No, but the toad knows it might happen. And continues on anyway, not whining in a hole about the Heron's habits offending it.
If words offend thee, show them your free power and turn off your ear.
Now you're threatening me with physical violence?
You simply don't belong here.
Nigger is not racist; it is a descriptive term meaning a lazy, no-account, unkept person of low morales and education.
Negro is also descriptive - a person of black or shades-of-black genetic heritage.
Both terms are protected speech, except the former should not be used at a Baltimore BBQ - fire in a crowded theater and all.
Blithering idiot. The first amendment does not restrict private entities from estabishing whatever limits they want.
Depends...can't reference the visitor to CONgress or the UN last Sept.
Poof...it's gone.
Pahaps huwt feewings.
Montel who? Oh you mean the irrelevant Hollywood douche tool with a failed daytime talk show. That Montel?
Montel who?
Oh the black Jerry Springer clown?
'Montel who?'
Montel 'I used to be a big talk show host' Williams says 'shoot to kill'......well he would wouldn't he, let's face it he knows full well that they are probably all Caucasian!
Why doesn't he just join the National Guard if he feels that way and see what it's really like to be shot at, before making such crass statements.
All Patriots should now seriously consider their position and support their brothers in this stand against tyranny and blatant racism!
I bring your attention to Goal 16 of the UN Agenda 2030:
http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2015/12/as-events-spiral-ou...
So, Occupy Wall Street takes over public parks in cities, no problem. Occupy Y'all Street takes over a public park in the countryside and it's "shoot to kill." Ouch. Is Montel ready to pull the trigger?
Didn't Monty say the same thing about Ferguson?
.....never mind, just the Feds flying yet another false flag.
Nothing at all to do with the latest iteration of a gun grab.
Who the hell is Montell Williams
A first cousin of Steve Harvey though his teeth aren't as fake white........
If I am not mistaken, he's also been a huge proponent of legalizing medical marijuana. He smokes a lot of it. Seriously. Has some medical problem I think for which he uses it. I guess Michael Savage was right. It does cause brain damage after all.......
"Michael Savage was right. It does cause brain damage after all......."
Non THC cannabis has been proven to cure cancer, as well as other diseases.
Having been to Colorado, and talked and seen large amounts of adults with their children there, irrespective of the left/right charade, who only care about their kids getting well when modern medical cartel science wants to kill them, I must say you are a fucking idiot!
If you listen to Michael jewrat weiner, you are braindead.
Sorry.
Is Michael Weeener calling others to join this fight in Oregon? Or, is his employers ordering him to talk non sense bs for another 3 hours?
"Or, is his employers ordering him to talk non sense bs for another 3 hours?"
Is this a trick question?
All jews lie all the time.
Its what they do.
Dont misunderstand - he's only advocating legalized MJ because on federal firearms forms, it asks you if you partake of the devil's lettuce, which if checked yes promptly gets your 2nd rights revoked.
So you either lie on a federal form, which is a felony, or you give up your second amendment rights.
Not that such a thing is constitutional on either end, of course.
Like government needs provoking to kill citizens,,, especially caucasians. LOL.
If they were black would this black moron suggest black lives don't matter?
Guess what BLM? You clowns are only the first on the list. Every corrupt agency in the Federal governement, all the way up to the treasonous rotten head of the snake in the White House, is next on the list.
This stuff isn't going to stop until the Constitution lives again. And blood is going to flow until it's back in charge. Reap it.
BLM isn't a part of the us .gov.
It is a third party to give us .gov assets over to large corporations by its creditors for all debts via fiat fed notes (jew printed).
You people need to wake up.
The .fedgov does not work for you!
The us declared bankruptcy before world war 2.
Keep waving those flags, and fighting their jew wars....idiots!
All about acquiring physical assets. You can't print land !
If this was some black guys watermelon farm, you'd see blacklivesmatter and Montel all supporting them.
Quick, check....Has Hil-liary said anything about bringing back Janet Reno?
I wonder why he didn't give this advice to the police in Ferguson and Baltimore? Anyone know?
Is this the same guy who said:
"Williams said "violence is a part of our society" but he stressed the need to tone down the "rhetoric" that, in his mind, is encouraging "hate, discontent, [and] anger."
http://piersmorgan.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/10/montel-williams-on-americas-...
"Enraged Negroid animal Montel Williams is begging his negro brother Obama to slaughter white people using the military. More news at 10."
It is an interesting Constitutional issue for a FEDERAL Government to own such a large proportion of real estate in a Constituent Member of the Federation.
Owning real estate is one thing but to own so much undermines the role of Senators.
States are sovereign entities, the fed cannot own them. So sayth the Constitution. The PEOPLE own that land. The people can occupy it. The problem is the FED see itself as over the people and not the other way round. Only bullets and blood will solve this.
Is he trying to sell a book or something?
At least ZH/TD is giving him the publicity he wanted for his publicity stunt.
Y'all Qaeda didn't think this one through. Just let them sit and rot for a few more days till bubba wants to go home and eat if they aren't grilling each other up yet.
Montel Williams Calls For "Shoot To Kill" In Oregon Showdown
You first you bald headed Hamster
Who the fuck is this cheap opportunist of a Kneegro to say anything anyway ???????
Well, degenerates all think alike.
They could let white people settle that land and build farms, ranches, cities, industry etc. but they'd rather keep everyone packed in container crates in the diseased, violent, American cities.
Self sufficient people are impossible to control.
The other nigger has spoken.
'Shoot to kill' didn't work out that well for Mexico when General Santa Ana gave that order at the Alamo.
Well sure, but all their guns were made in Mexico.
Wait a minute, you crooked Judge! Listen to the clip at the 0:53 mark.
"The Federal Judge said that Federal Guidelines mandated tougher sentences..."
What, NOBODY spot the blatant contradiction in the Judge's words, between GUIDELINES and his claim of MANDATE? If it's a Guideline, it's up to the discretion of the Judge. If it's Code, then it's a Mandate. So which is it -- Guideline or Code, you crooked Feral Judge?
In fact... If it's a Sentencing GUIDELINE, the Court of Appeals really had no business even hearing the case -- much less overturning the Sentence of the previous Judge. This could go higher, to the USSC perhaps. What say you, Ted Cruz, you champion of Liberty and attorney who has argued in front of the USSC a number of times?