Montel Williams Calls For "Shoot To Kill" In Oregon Showdown; Militiamen Respond They Are "Ready To Fight"
In the latest development in the ongoing saga of Ammon Bundy's seizure of a Federal wildlife reuge office in Oregon, the members of the militia said they're ready to fight, but they won't say what they would actually do if federal authorities try to remove them by force as reported in the clip below.
However, while we noted the shortcomings in Bundy's latest standoff last night, what is even more notable is that as Shepard Ambellas of Intellihub points out, Montel Williams he tweeted that the National Guard should be mobilized to “kill” protesters who have currently overtaken the federal building in Burns, Oregon.
Then let's give them some - put this down using National Guard with shoot to kill orders. https://t.co/KSzUZzUor6
— Montel Williams (@Montel_Williams) January 3, 2016
Moreover USA Today has reported that “militia members used the ranchers as a ruse,” in what I and others feel may be the planed catalyst to start a civil war in America.
Monday, Rick Jervis wrote:
The Oregon sheriff whose county is at the heart of an anti-government call-to-arms said Sunday the group occupying a national wildlife refuge came to town under false pretenses.
Sheriff David Ward said protesters came to Harney County, in southeastern Oregon, “claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers.” In reality, he said, “these men had alternative motives to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States.”
In a statement issued Sunday afternoon, Ward said he was working with local and federal authorities to resolve the situation as quickly and peacefully as possible.
Intellihub adds that its staff has identified a few suspicious individuals who claim to stand with the militants which may attempt to provocateur, escalate, the situation further. As we noted last night, this also is a distinct possibility.
Finally, in an interesting tangent, the WaPo, which admits that there "are gun rights issues, religious overtones, broad strains of anti-government sentiment and even the tactics of the Occupy Wall Street movement" as underlying motives behind the seizure, focuses on "very particular question of how much land the government controls in the state -- the same question that animated the dispute with rancher Cliven Bundy in Nevada two years ago -- and that helped motivate Bundy's son Ammon to take a lead role in the Oregon standoff."
It then provides several charts, alongside the following analysis, to show this curious aspect of what may be the core motive behind Bundy's actions. To wit:
More than half of Oregon is owned by the federal government, with a large percentage of that land owned by the Bureau of Land Management -- an agency widely reviled in the West and known by its acronym, BLM. (Ammon Bundy was forced to clarify on Twitter that his use of "BLM" didn't refer to the Black Lives Matter movement.) Data from the U.S. Geological Survey shows the amount of federal land in the state.
(This map and the ones below only show areas of 600 or more acres held by the government.)
The takeover occurred near Malheur Lake, at a building that's part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. That lake is at the upper center of the BLM's map of the surrounding area, which shows just how much is controlled by the government. (The original protests over the Hammonds' sentencing began in Burns, Ore.)
Part of the issue is that there isn't much population in the eastern part of the state. Mapping Oregon's population, you can see Portland and a corridor near the coast, which is about it. The area around the wildlife refuge has almost no population.
There's a historic link between population and federal land ownership. In 2012, the Congressional Research Service looked at the history of tensions between the government and the population out West -- particularly ranchers and farmers who, like the Hammonds and Bundys, use federal land for grazing and other purposes.
Early in the history of the country, the government took over land that was then distributed to citizens for farming and economic growth. As the United States expanded westward, the land was increasingly inhospitable, including the Rockies and the deserts of Nevada and Utah. By the end of the 19th century, a new focus was placed on conserving the land, with Yellowstone becoming the first national park in 1872. At that point, very few people lived in the area, as this 1890 Census Bureau map suggests.
Over the course of the 20th century, the government's emphasis shifted away from releasing the land to private citizens and toward managing it itself. The passage of 1976's Federal Land Policy and Management Act made that policy concrete, keeping the land as the property of the government. After the federal government's shift, there was a push from some in the West, including governors and members of Congress, to shift control from the federal to the state or local government. The Sagebrush Rebellion, as it was known, tapered off during the relative friendly administration of Ronald Reagan.
The longstanding political and legal dispute was summarized in more depth by the conservative Heritage Foundation, but the Congressional Research Service makes one additional point that's important to consider.
"From the earliest days," the CRS researchers write, "these policy views took on East/West overtones, with easterners more likely to view the lands as national public property, and westerners more likely to view the lands as necessary for local use and development."
That's one reason for the objection from Westerners. The other is that the lock-down on the land came after the East was heavily settled but before the West had been. In the East, land was turned over to farmers. In the West, settled later in the country's history, there were fewer people to hand it to.
Compare the Dakotas to Oregon, for example. In 1910, here's how the population was distributed. Even the Dakotas had pockets of population.
It's still sparsely populated.
But very little of the land is federal.
On that 1910 map, notice that Nevada has very little population -- thanks in part to its landscape being even less hospitable than the Dakotas. Its population is still small, save Reno and Las Vegas.
The vast majority of the land -- including the land around the Bundy ranch -- is owned by the government to this day.
The conclusion: "The fight isn't new, as the Congressional Research Service report notes. What's new is the way in which the broader political moment has cross-pollinated with longstanding objections to how the government manages land out West. The takeover in Oregon has its roots in the Sagebrush Rebellion. They way it's being manifested, though, is as modern as it gets."
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It remains to be seen if the National Guard will take up Montel on his "shoot to kill" advice.
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Urainium and Nat Gas among other things.
Why don't the Feds just leave them alone and let them camp out the winter? During that time the Justice Dept. can bring charges against the BLM for making terrorist threats against innocent ranch owners, false prosecution and armed kidnapping. The campers could also make widely known the fact that the BLM is hiding the study that proves that wildlife is much more abundant on the private lands of the Hammonds. The BLM is the perfect representation of the Govn't role in American society. (I can dream can't I)
This Montel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hiUuL5uTKc
Whatever it takes to expose the Dark Side that has infected this country, I'm for.
This...ain't that.
Nuke 'em from Space!
Nah. There's probably some protected species that people would freak about if it were eliminated.
Why should Montel turn out to be anything other than a BLM fraud like the rest?
I hope Montel makes sure the National Guard are all black recruits....it could get interesting if it was....
The Fascist left is always for gun control until it threaten them. Montel who?
looks like Montel got a phone call from Israel....., the rest is history as they say.
Let Montel lead the attack right up front at the spear point....This problem never would have arisen if the prosecution had not doubled back and reassessed the Hammonds under anti-terrorism charges incresing their sentences to five years for conducting weed destropying range enhancement brush fires on BLM-Public lands....or were these leased lands by the Hammonds for ranching
Typical statist response: "Let's do _____..." meaning I want to use the force of government to do _____...
They always want someone else to do the dirty work and blood shedding.
If you want it Montel, then pick up your gun and go do it, you passively, aggressive, violent person.
I wonder how Montel Williams would feel about using the Nat'l Guard to shoot and kill the urbanites who cause the most death and destruction on a daily basis in a larger inner city nearby. That is NOT my view; just saying.
He is another schill working against Freedom of Speech and the Second Amendment or another way to say; another fool.
Kent state, remember? Don't like protests, just shoot everyone, right Montel? What if those guys were protesting black deaths by police? Shoot them? Oh, wait! Depends on the protest, I guess. Each to their own. Every man for himself. America is a lost, sad nation.
If my parents named me Montel, I'd be so pissed that I couldn't think straight nor intelligently for my entire life.....apparently, this is the case....
Funny how shutting down a Fed office in the middle of no where deserves participants to be shot dead, but rioting in a major urban area, with theft, arson and wanton damage should see peace and love be heaped on the participants.
Hypocrisy from a fascist liberal, try being honest Montel, (somehow I see him confessing while in his black pointy hood and robe.)
.."It's as if millions of voices shouted out - 'I'm your Huckleberry, Montel'"
Just another piece of the puzzle...don't be distracted
With executive orders "pending" on gun control, this is right on time:
"Intellihub adds that its staff has identified a few suspicious individuals who claim to stand with the militants which may attempt to provocateur, escalate, the situation further. As we noted last night, this also is a distinct possibility."
When it finally goes down I'll bet they throw a few bibles around the carnage for good measure.
Libtards: "See, the only way to stop them from clinging to their guns and bibles is to kill them."
Chairman Mao looks on in satisfaction.
Knowing how 0Bammur thinks, it would surprise me none if he calls out the Cavalry and has the place stormed just before his speech, so he can give his kuum bah yah "Bin Laden v2.0 snuffed" moment on TV tonight.
We have to kill them to see what's in them.
It is East Oregon in the winter. A very cold and unpleasant location.
If the authorities have any brains they will let nature resolve this.
Cut off power and block communications.
Set up some checkpoints so no one can deliver anything and let the numb nuts enjoy their winter vacation.
I truly hope this is how they handle this as there is absolutely no need fir violence here.
No need for violence in the middle east, either. But who do you find there spending billions to make sure there is violence? It isn't the militia, is it?
Fuck these pussy ass libtards. Hey montel, why don't you, yes you, go down and make those people leave. You do it, prove to all of us that you're not a pussy. The national garage and all of its "diverse" troops won't get this job done. They're too busy spending their budget allocation on dildos and field manuals for sanitary sodomy. So, its up to you tough guy.
Montel must have smoked some really bad shit.
Is this old uncle Tom trying to be relevant by acting black? The bigger question is, who the hell follows Montel Williams??? hahaha.
First get the rioters in Ferguson lined up and shot and put Montel at the front of line.
Looks like the liberal MSM is starting to play cowboys and negroes. Looks like they want Obama's gun executive order to have some sting.
I hope Putin is funding the Oregon Militia and sending them arms like the United States did for ISIS. Maybe a Russian satellite sending them intel directly from the Kremlin...wouldn't the BLM be surprised if it was a little more challenging than the Branch Davidian raid?! If there is one man that can save the United States, it's Vladimir Putin...oh, the irony! :D
Kill whitey! He should have his own show or something.
Well that does it... Montel is a moron. Im sure that I would have come to the conclusion on my own, but this confirms it. The Black Lives Matter Crowd should join against unjust law being imposed on the people...? They seem to lack intelligence? What dont they get? Isnt that what they are fighting an..... unjust system? just like these White Folk are? DUH People?
Montel is a typical city guy who understands what he understands. He has absolutely no clue how ranching works, spare how government with it's extreme number of tentacles, reaching in our pants at airport security, again deeper in our pants at tax time. Hells Bells! in our kids pants and probably where the sun never shines, through their teachers with their sexual tolerance but zero tolerance weapons nonsense (even if there is no real weapon)
Ask Montel where his food comes from, I am willing to wager it comes from a store. He has zero understanding of the history behind our land and people, especially how the government he wants to take action has already sold nearly everyone down the river. Just ask most any American Indian. In this case, the inconsistencies of how government handles business with the people. What makes the Hammonds and Bundys united, regardless if the Hammonds wanted it, is the fact each are the LAST of the holdouts of government land in their region, and the government themselves deciding they want to take possession of the land by whatever means possible. I bet if the government wants to take Montel's home, he wouldn't want them to kick him out, but he may never be able to equate that.
Montel, they may be after YOU and the rest of America next. This honky saltine understands the Bigger Picture and you and Liberals in general would be extremely wise to take the time and UNDERSTAND IT NOW!!
Be damned careful what you wish, bro.
Just Sayin'
I want to give the militias a chance to back down. I might even offer some clemency, but aftera certain point, National Guard goes in guns blazing. I firmly believe the state must have a monopoly of force, and I don't sympathize with these militia or their claims.
Who do you think has the power ??? a corrupt bunch of scum in our government thats the problem! They have the monopoly of force when they can sentence someone as a terrorist for 5 years for burning off a FUCKING FIELD.. .YOU PEOPLE ARE NUTS!
You want to DEFEND OUR GOVERNMENT? ARE YOU NUMB IN THE HEAD? Montel must be standing up for the UNJUST SYSTEM?
This government is using plants to try to label these guys "terrorists" to justify the use of force against Americans standing against Tyranny! FUCK OFF!
No they aren't. Lay off the fucking weed...
I seem to be thinking a little more clearly than you? What makes you an authority? Your ego?
what is the state? what / who does it represent? Is it not the case that every 'state' is 100% dependent on 'federal' 'funding' to support its existence? Where does this 'money' come from? the zio-banking cartel, does it not? and who makes sure local elections always end up in favor of the zio establishment? Hmmm? Try running even for dog catcher and let it slip that the facts demonstrate support for neo-faux-israel, to the tune of several billions each year, not only is of no strategic benefit to the uSa, but it is simply a waste of money. The zio establishment will swoop down on you like a lightening strike, throw out countless articles in their zio controlled press, right down to the local gazette what an evil dog catcher you would be, likely to kill all the dogs in America, while at the same time investing millions in an 'opposition' candidate that parrots zio-jew friendly policies.
Every state government is in on the game. There ARE no 'states'. State sovereignty ended a long time ago. Every aspect of American life is micro-managed to the smallest detail so the zionist insurgency can by all and any means perpetuate its existence, which is the real power in America, which began when we handed them control over our money supply.
The issues here are not immediately directly correlated to the 'naked eye' as it were, but zooming out to capture the big picture and the whole total reality, the fact is America is in the death grip of a foreign power, and has been for decades. Whatever is going on in Oregon surely is traceable to this disease.
We have seen this sort of thing before, Waco, for example. And maybe this incident in OR is small potatoes, where the likes of you don't 'get it', and the matter passes. It is my view this OR incident is evidence of a growing rage against what I am referring to - the effect, while I suspect many still do not understand the underlying cause. I hope I live to see the say where the underlying cause is ubiquitously understood by all, there are significant defections in the current federal mercenary offensive forces, and a 10,000,000 man real American army is formed to destroy once and for all the zionist insurgency, destroy the foreign power controlling the nation and return it to the Americans it rightly belongs to.
If I saw a focused and highly organized military operation developed for this purpose, as old as I am, I would not hesitate to join, because a real American army is no match for the weenie zionist scum. I believe once the mass of the jack booted thugs who are militars and 'police' are culled of those who love their country and get clear on who f*ed it up and why, this would drastically deplete the zio evil empire forces and the American army would win, perhaps without a shot being fired.
But this sort of undertaking is extraordinarily complex. It requires leaders who are clear about their objectives, and what it means to return America to Americans, and who are clear about the purpose and scope of what the original founders intended, and have the vision and skill to reacquaint the nation of this and so re-set the uSa accordingly.
This will involve, long before there is any military engagement, a highly developed package that represents the re-organized uSa so everybody is clear on exactly what is being fought for. And for sure the jews will want to slither in somehow, but they must be kept out. As the jews are the problem, and always will be, this movement is not only to be a return to the original founding principles (with critical constitutional revisions to close loopholes that turned out to make it possible for the zionist insurgency to come into power), but, sadly, yet this is vital, it must be to repudiate the jew and all things zionist, not to the exclusion of ppl who prefer to place that meaningless false label on themselves to exist within the nation, but to be forever banned from govt, banking and media, as the list of jewish names is long with those who were not just proven traitors to America, but basically foreign enemies walking about on American soil with no allegiance to Ameica, but to the jew and their zionist NWO cause.
This sort of development would radically alter and improve substantially the American landscape for anybody who likes freedom, limited government, real money, and a more unified nation that respects the basics of moral character (do not lie, steal, kill).
For those so disenfranchised by "freedom, limited government, real money, and a more unified nation that respects the basics of moral character (do not lie, steal, kill)", they can f off and leave and go set up some s***ty country somewhere else, with a f_g sinagog (misspelled purposely) on every corner for all I care, with 10000000000 jewish agencies promoting jew this and that with 100000000000000000000 shrines to the 60000000000000000000 jews killed and all the future 'holocausts'.
Any country that wants to preserve its security, prosperity and dignity needs to totally eliminate the zio-jew element. I realize that sounds 'harsh' 'unloving' 'not very christian', but the facts of history and current facts on the ground define the destructive jew-zio force as the most potent anti force that can reside within any country, esp one with the sorts of (dwindling) human and capital resources of the uSa, with the utmost indisputable clarity, so much so that it would take a pile of books to cover every detail stacked one on the other until it reached Andromeda.
Considering the massive facts and evidence, it is truly a wonder why most Americans don't understand the source of the trouble and the ongoing threat. But the good news, the facts are flying all over the place and not so hard to comprehend. This is not an issue of 'hate' or 'anti-semitism'. It is a matter of national security and good old fashioned self defense.
+1000
Really well spoken, great rant.
I don't think you took the right pills this AM. It will come back to haunt you someday. But on the bright side, any dictator would agree with you.
something tells me that your avatar pic is really you, did not go beyond 8th grade, and watch waaaaay to many cowboy movies.
Are you LE by chance?
Clearly you have gone full retard.
I'm thinking this is not going to end up like Bundy ranch but more like Branch Dividian.
Montel should keep in mind that there is only one reason his backward breed was brought into this country. Oh wait, two reasons. I forgot about shining shoes.
Its easy for them not to be able to relate to Ammon and crowd because his race never fought for thier freedom...we willingly gave it to them.
And they still think we owe them something.
Actually four reasons......Don't forget (after careful selected breeding) football and basketball.
MONTEL WILLIAMS, what can a person say. Personally I think he should use that bottled up courage of his and be the negotiator between the government and the malitia.
Remember to strip naked Montel before walking up to these people because they don't trust a soul. If you looked at this logically you'd quickly determine why.
I just wish they'd take back the United States the same way because the Constitution has been used for asswipe by that president.
Can I burn down the Yellowstone and put in a parking lot for Bundy and his militias' F250s?
Can I burn down your house, and put up tents for Syrian refugees?