President Obama Explains Why Making It Harder For "We, The People" To Get Guns Will Make Everyone Safer

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Amid threats from various Republican Congressmen, soaring pre-emptive gun sales, and a majority of Americans (56%) believe that if more Americans carried concealed weapons the country would be safer; President Obama is set today to formally announce his executive action new gun-control measures.

 

In the wake of mass shootings at schools and other public places, some have argued that the shootings could have been stopped if any of the victims had carried weapons. Others argue that having more citizens carrying weapons can lead to more violence and accidental shooting.

 

Obama plans to continue the weeklong push to promote the gun effort with a prime time, televised town hall discussion Thursday and it is sure to be prominent in Obama’s final State of the Union address to Congress next week. At the centerpiece of Obama's package of executive actions (which aims to curb what he’s described as a scourge of gun violence in the U.S) is a broader definition of gun dealers that the administration hopes will expand the number of gun sales subject to background checks.

 

Live Feed (Obama is due to speak at 1140ET)...

 

 

As we noted previously,

The government’s own numbers tell us that 3.8 people per 100,000 in the US die each year from non-suicide gun violence. Terror-related deaths are effectively 0.0.

 

Meanwhile, 11.6 per 100,000 die in traffic related deaths. A whopping 169.8 people per 100,000 die from heart disease.

As a gentle reminder, when another socialist utopia (Venezuela) imposed gun control laws, violent crime actually increased. And Caracas is now one of the most dangerous cities in the world.

What happens next? courtesy of the NYT:

 

The chart shows that while the soaring gun sales are the effect, the cause is simple: president Obama.

The same president who today at 11:40am will finally reveal just what, after many delays, his executive action(s) on gun control will be.

The concern is that with one more year under Obama's term, gun sales over the next 12 months are certain to surge to new all time highs as Obama's crusade to crush the second amendment slowly picks up steam in order to cement his "anti-gun" legacy, and as the population rushes to buy as many as it can before Obama makes such purchases illegal.

It's not all bad news though: gun makers could not have asked for a better president, as the following headline just confirmed:

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Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:40 | 6999798 hedgeless_horseman
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Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:41 | 6999807 firstdivision
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Meanwhile, while the plebs are distracted by guns....http://gawker.com/republicans-propose-volkswagen-bailout-right-after-the...

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:42 | 6999818 hedgeless_horseman
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In 1934, after the death of President Hindenburg, Hitler gave himself the power (after the Enabling Act) to be a totalitarian regime, legally write laws, and rendered the parliament useless. In 1938 Hitler passed the German Weapons Act, which only applied to the new qualified “citizen”. Under this law, which applied to all guns and ammunition, it was specifically prohibited for Jews to hold, manufacture, or deal in firearms or ammunition, while making it easier for those in the Nazi regime to acquire and transfer rifles, shotguns, and ammunition. This law exempted holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, Nazi regime members, officials of the central government, states, and employees of the German railway from gun ownership restrictions. The legal age for purchasing firearms was lowered from 20 to 18 years of age, and permits were made valid for three years instead of one. This act did not change the 1928 requirement for all gun manufacturers and dealers to maintain records with information about who purchased guns and the firearms’ serial numbers, which were to be delivered to a police authority yearly. On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior (Wilhelm Frick) promulgated the Regulations Against Jews’ Possession of Weapons which effectively deprived all Jews living in those locations of the right to own a firearm or any other weapon. Historian William Sheridan Allen noted that the Nazis also went house to house confiscating firearms, targeting “subversives”.

 

http://firearmtrainingstore.com/about-us/blog/did-hitler-ban-guns/

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:44 | 6999836 Latina Lover
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I will give up my guns when the Liar in Chief gives up his secret service security detail.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:47 | 6999851 hedgeless_horseman
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I will give up my guns when the Liar in Chief gives up his secret service security detail.

I will not:  http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-09/tale-two-home-invasions

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:49 | 6999881 The Juggernaut
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"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."  - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:51 | 6999890 InjectTheVenom
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Mao.  Hitler.  Stalin.  Lenin.  Castro.   All went after guns hard.  

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:56 | 6999924 HungryPorkChop
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After Mao, Hitler and Stalin had the guns, next came the hard labor prison camps, salt mines and mass executions. 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:02 | 6999971 El Vaquero
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I'm gonna call bullshit on his statistics here.  Homicide is related to demographics. 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:13 | 7000009 Latina Lover
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I am being rhetorical, friend Hedgeless.   We all KNOW that Obama will NEVER give up his security detail, or any protection assigned to his family.  No guns is only for the little people, ordinary US citizens.  He is a monstrous hypocrite, beholder to his bankster masters.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:47 | 7000717 Four chan
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black criminality is the number one problem with violence in america, why cant the black president see that and take some real actions like disarming THEM.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 14:03 | 7000807 Handful of Dust
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If Soweto Hussein stopped coddling thugs and/or inviting then to the wh for a beer, that would do more to stop violence in America.

 

How do 'background checks' stop the dozen cold blooded murders in Chicago every weekend, Barry?

Wed, 01/06/2016 - 06:01 | 7003680 froze25
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An old saying is that "anyone who wants to disarm you is your enemy". Slaves are never aloud to own weapons.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 17:04 | 7001806 inhibi
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You really have to admire Obama's (or whoever is behind the scenes) staging:

He says such broad statements (Violence is bad, mass killings need to stop) that he gets the sheeple to agree with him.

Then, he slips in the decision: to put a ban on guns. Of course, its a complete non-sequitor. Nowhere does he discuss why or how this would stop the mass-shootings. Instead, he just says that less guns = less violence. Which, if it was true, would mean that his decision should be to ban weapons i.e. curb the military industrial complex, but really its just to appease the idiotic sheeple in this country.

 

 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:34 | 7000214 TheFutureReset
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Are you implying causation or correlation?

Even better, homicides are more closely related to you economic class regardless of demographics. 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:04 | 6999976 knukles
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Your Zen for the dayIf the world is safer without weapons, why is Obama pro-actively aiding and abetting Iran's procurement of nuclear weapons?

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:08 | 7000003 Niall Of The Ni...
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Iran already has nuclear weapons.

Oddly enough, this is less of a big deal than you'd think. In Iran and in Israel, nuclear war is a threat intended to discourage Arabs from invading, not a goal. The Iranian bomb has kept the Saudis at bay, which is all that was wanted.

The charade Barry's presided over was about spitting in the eye of Israelis and white Americans, Christian and Jewish.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:34 | 7000012 FireBrander
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Guns are dangerous.

Nuclear weapons save lives.

Drones spread "Freedom and Democracy".

Saudi Arabia is our partner in the fight against terror.

"The United States has usually looked the other way or issued carefully calibrated warnings in human rights reports as the Saudi royal family cracked down on dissent and free speech and allowed its elite to fund Islamic extremists..." – New York Times - Jan. 4, 2016

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:39 | 7000256 hedgeless_horseman
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It is, "comon sense."

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:01 | 6999960 slammin_dude
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And every king and pope and FDR, and Reagan, and Clinton and LBJ etc....the "elite" have been disarming the population since the dawn of time...lets not forget that fag Trudeau in Canada....they're using the same "unacceptble gun violence" bullshit as they are here...

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 14:46 | 7001076 Bastiat
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No, states with higher gun ownership don't have more gun murders

"In short, there isn't a good case in the state data for limiting gun ownership on the basis of gun murder rates. But if Mother Jones wants to make the case that gun ownership should be limited for paternalistic reasons because it makes suicide more likely, perhaps they can publish that argument instead, alongside their advocacy for physician-assisted suicide."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/no-states-with-higher-gun-ownership-do...

Make sure to get past the first chart which appears to show a correlation but the correlation is with all gun deaths, including suicide.

My favorite is Maine, which I know well.  Gun ownership is over 40% (and only that low because of the all the yuppies in Portland) yet the gun murder rate is 2nd lowest of any state. Seems like guns don't kill people, people kill people. Certain kinds of people kill people.  Killers will always find weapons.

 

 

 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:52 | 6999900 Bumpo
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How will this prevent "The Next Mass Shooting"? Trick question: It won't!

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:10 | 7000017 Chupacabra-322
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It won't. Do not CONSENT.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:51 | 7000346 kralizec
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In fascist eyes I am a criminal.  So be it.

Molon Labe!

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:25 | 7000594 overmedicatedun...
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Molon Labe!  shit I will join the american nazi party before i give in.

the nazi's did have a keen eye for who was the enemy - non whites like the pig in the white house would be shot quickly..

we are all jews now. they came for my gun and i gave them lead instead.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:53 | 6999909 NoDebt
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Is it just me or is he sounding even more unhinged from reality than usual?  I literally can't understand the flow of the argument he's trying to make.  Sure, we all know what he wants to do (vacate the entire Second Amendment), but he just can't seem to explain why.

I speak Liberal pretty good, but even I'm lost on this one.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:56 | 6999933 Veriton
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So the Antichrist is trying to take our guns again. Don't worry, the savior will stop him this year:

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Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:09 | 6999979 NoVa
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so who is the blonde She-Devil chick behind him?

 

Wookie gonna get MAD.....

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:09 | 7000010 El Vaquero
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I speak Liberal pretty good, but even I'm lost on this one.

Because he's losing the narrative.  The truth is coming out.  There is a whole lot of cognitive dissonance amongst the population regarding violent crime, and the narrative has to fit that. People are waking up to the fact that gun control doesn't stop violent criminals from being violent criminals, yet if we want to have a real discussion on who commits the most homicides, accusations of racism get flung around, and people would rather put their heads in the sand than to be called racist. 

 

This is why political correctness is bad.  The black, and to a lesser degree, some Hispanic communities, are broken.  This is where the discussion should be centered.  Who commits the homicides and why? 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 14:01 | 7000810 XitSam
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He's making an appeal to emotion because he doesn't have facts to back him up.  This time there's no recent event to inflame people so it is a harder sell.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:50 | 6999861 InjectTheVenom
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oh great, he's got crazy Uncle "this is a big fuckin deal" Joe by his side...this is gonna be rich !

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:50 | 6999886 Took Red Pill
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and guns sales go through the roof!

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:28 | 7000167 NeedtoSecede
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And I hate to be too selfish and cynical, but I am just pissed at myself for not buying S&W and Ruger stawks when they were both in the low single-digits.  I have been trying to stay out of the Wall Street casino, but that trade should have been a no-brainer...

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:57 | 7000777 drendebe10
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U can bet the fudgepacker and all the elected progressive liberal democraps turds & republicant eunuchs front ran this with insider trading to line their stock port folio with them.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:49 | 6999880 El Vaquero
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I wouldn't even if the Cocksucker-in-Chief gave up his SS security detail. 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:16 | 7000059 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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What he did is a national registery...you all know what happens next.  http://www.wnd.com/2016/01/obama-executive-actions-on-guns-coming-tuesda...

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:32 | 7000199 Perimetr
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got enough guns, need heavy weapons!!

where can I get an RPG?  That is what you will need when they come down your driveway in a tank

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:53 | 7000360 skinwalker
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An RPG won't defeat a modern tank, though it may foul up one of the tracks enough to disable it. 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 14:05 | 7000828 XitSam
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True, but he was using tank like liberals use bullets or clips.  What it will defeat is a Bearcat.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 14:37 | 7001027 Iam_Silverman
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"What it will defeat is a Bearcat."

Do you refer to one of those rubber-tired vehicles that a Molotov cocktail can render motionless?  They also tend to high-center over small terrain changes.

 

https://uscrow.org/2013/04/08/how-to-disable-mrap-mine-resistant-ambush-protected-light-armored-vehicles/

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 16:02 | 7001537 Baa baa
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That is a fine tactic but my friend, we must start thinking outside of government produced methodology and innovate...

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 14:13 | 7000880 Urban Roman
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If you can hit juuust the right spot, in the crevice between the turret and the body of the tank, you can disable it, or at least make it hard to swivel the turret. And probably injure the crew.

But, true, the easiest shot is to hit a track and impair movement.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 15:59 | 7001518 Baa baa
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That's all you need, throw in a couple of gallons of gas and you have 1 less piece of armor to torment.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 19:50 | 7002420 Down to Earth T...
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More rhetoric from the pres as he releases thousands of illegal alien criminals onto the streets and many jihadis from gitmo to return to their positions ? WTF,  is this guy whacked or what ? I fully realize some of the terror thing is a sham , but not all by a long shot. Most of it is allowed to happen for poltical reasons. and real peop[le die! That makes it all even worse IMO. An act of treason and murder by the control freaks we call our government.

Ever wonder why all the elites need so much security but do not want you to have the same thing ? What a fucking joke it has all become here in USSA today ! The war on drugs and our open borders are complete and total shams of the highest order. Just watch some of the TV shows about the border patrol and other agencies and see if they are actually doing their job ? Or coddling and enabling all the bullshit we see everyday on the southern border states ? What has happened as that all of these LEO agencies including local LE agencies are playing along with a game ? And that game creates more of them and ever bigger government. A self ful;filling enigma of insane actsfunde by the tax payers.Their jobs depend on all the insanity to continue ! The real damage done has not even been seen or calculated yet ? the key word being yet . but it will all come to pass as the meltdown is already in motion on many fronts, both social and economic. What a fucking mess, a form of organized insanity or collective insanity, take your pick.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:52 | 6999902 El Oregonian
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Arrest his unqualified ass.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:58 | 6999949 Baby Bladeface
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The Nazis need not discuss, because the best argument in cases like this - the lead in the skull of fascists.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 11:58 | 6999950 optimator
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And that act was only temporary until the citizens were safe!

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:17 | 7000067 FireBrander
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If Obama wants the most "bang for his action"; ban Black ownership of guns...that would save a lot of, mostly Black, lives...Don't Black Lives Matter? C'mon Obama, the biggest killer of blacks are blacks with guns...haven't we had enough of that killing?...isn't it time to take action?...the Republicans will never do this...we can't wait for them...black CHILDREN die every day from bullets...Roll out the National Guard into the cities with the highest number of gun deaths and take those guns away...

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:45 | 7000293 TheFutureReset
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the biggest killer of blacks are blacks with guns.

Huh? Homicide (by any type of weapon, not just firearms) is the 8th leading cause of death for blacks. Guns only would likely make it very low. Not as low as whites, but your comment was rife with inaccuracy. 

http://www.cdc.gov/minorityhealth/populations/REMP/black.html

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:00 | 7000393 FireBrander
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Huh?

Wasn't aiming for numerical "accuracy"; I waz shooting for sarcasm.

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