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President Obama Explains Why Making It Harder For "We, The People" To Get Guns Will Make Everyone Safer

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Amid threats from various Republican Congressmen, soaring pre-emptive gun sales, and a majority of Americans (56%) believe that if more Americans carried concealed weapons the country would be safer; President Obama is set today to formally announce his executive action new gun-control measures.

 

In the wake of mass shootings at schools and other public places, some have argued that the shootings could have been stopped if any of the victims had carried weapons. Others argue that having more citizens carrying weapons can lead to more violence and accidental shooting.

 

Obama plans to continue the weeklong push to promote the gun effort with a prime time, televised town hall discussion Thursday and it is sure to be prominent in Obama’s final State of the Union address to Congress next week. At the centerpiece of Obama's package of executive actions (which aims to curb what he’s described as a scourge of gun violence in the U.S) is a broader definition of gun dealers that the administration hopes will expand the number of gun sales subject to background checks.

 

Live Feed (Obama is due to speak at 1140ET)...

 

 

As we noted previously,

The government’s own numbers tell us that 3.8 people per 100,000 in the US die each year from non-suicide gun violence. Terror-related deaths are effectively 0.0.

 

Meanwhile, 11.6 per 100,000 die in traffic related deaths. A whopping 169.8 people per 100,000 die from heart disease.

As a gentle reminder, when another socialist utopia (Venezuela) imposed gun control laws, violent crime actually increased. And Caracas is now one of the most dangerous cities in the world.

What happens next? courtesy of the NYT:

 

The chart shows that while the soaring gun sales are the effect, the cause is simple: president Obama.

The same president who today at 11:40am will finally reveal just what, after many delays, his executive action(s) on gun control will be.

The concern is that with one more year under Obama's term, gun sales over the next 12 months are certain to surge to new all time highs as Obama's crusade to crush the second amendment slowly picks up steam in order to cement his "anti-gun" legacy, and as the population rushes to buy as many as it can before Obama makes such purchases illegal.

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Tue, 01/05/2016 - 15:27 | 7001326 MeBizarro
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Only idiots or people pushing an agenda think that is remotely possible.  More than 200M firearms have been sold in private sales since '86 alone in the US. Notably more guns floating around in private hands than American citizens a couple of times over. 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:43 | 7000285 Baa baa
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What a ghastly conversation the You Tube bit has generated. It does not inspire confidence in the people.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:47 | 7000310 conspicio
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Alinsky, Obama's favorite Jew, pronounced thus:

THIRD RULE: Wherever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. Here you want to cause confusion, fear, and retreat.

SIXTH RULE: A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.

EIGHTH RULE: Keep the pressure on.

NINTH RULE: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

“The most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired results.”

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:49 | 7000328 orangegeek
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Barry, like his homosexual partner and Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel, will try to create gun laws that allow for the mass murder of Americans at the hands of those with illegal guns.

 

About 30 murders per week in Chicago - some of the toughest "gun laws" in the country.

 

Barry is satanic shit, but he is not stupid.  Barry wants to put in motion this mass murder of Americans as his final maming of the US - to further his muslim heritage.

When you die one day Barry, I hope it is slow and painful.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 12:54 | 7000376 PoasterToaster
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Everytime they promulgate another unenforceable law on the people, their credibility takes a hit.  And there is nothing to the State but the credibility it has in the mind of the people it enslaves. 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:11 | 7000464 WillyGroper
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Ohhhh the irony.

The fake tears, suicide, alllll my chillens.

Body language.

Liar in thief.

250K murdered by the medical mafia annually, recruited to probe you.

I'm just a dumb hick from the woods.

All I see is logic fail.

Ropes will soon be outlawed.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:07 | 7000468 22winmag
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I love it.

 

All the panic buying of guns and ammo will lead to one thing.

 

Bargain prices whent things calm down.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 15:31 | 7001341 MeBizarro
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Bargains probably not but only the biggest dipshits are paying huge premiums right now especially on ammo.  It was marked up 50% this weekend in the local store and it was going rapidly. Owner usually closes up in January for a week or two and goes on vacation down to Florida or the Caribbean since business is so slow. 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:08 | 7000476 Your Creator
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take the guns away from leftists only.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:31 | 7000622 chilller
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Lyin POS POTUS...

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:32 | 7000625 DrData02
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Once upon a time ... In a land that once existed .... Officials, perhaps congressmen, who had sworn to uphold The Constitution would take action and stop all of this executive overreach in its tracks. 

Rome followed this same path when Augustus usurped the power of all other elected officials as the "first among equals".  (A phrase which is self-contradictory when you think about it.)

Anyway, those in power need to reassert the check and balance system soon or the process which Rome followed will be irreversible here.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:47 | 7000718 rejected
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They have,,, The new check and balance system is a ledger at the Federal Reserve. They write the checks, we pay the balance.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:45 | 7000681 Shadow1275
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Don't worry guys the experts are on Obummer's side *facepalm*

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:44 | 7000696 rejected
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I think most peoples around the world really don't care whether Americans have guns or not, whether they kill each other or not,,, it's an internal issue to them BUT, that said,  they would really appreciate if the murdering, war mongers of the US government and its military / Intelligence Agencies would stop the dronings, bombing and invasions around the world.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:55 | 7000765 Duc888
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I don't get this guy.  How can Barry Soetero cry these crocodile tears for the kids at Sandy Hook....and blab on about the shootings in Shitgago while he immolates whole families with drones...and then comes back with a second hit to kill the  first responders?  How can he ship guns over the border to Mexico to be used by drug gangs there who by the way kill kids too.  How can this guy fund, back and train ISIS and even re-supply them... when ISIS kills innocent women and children?

 

Something doesn't add up.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 13:58 | 7000787 918pigpen
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FUCK YOU NIGGER!!

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 14:38 | 7000998 Kagemusho
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In 1962 the Joint Chiefs of Staff approved a plan to kill US citizens and blame it on Cuba as a pretext to invade. It was called Operation NORTHWOODS.

This is not something from a work of fiction. This is not something from a Kafka novel. This is a matter of historically verifiable fact. 

When the proof was discovered and made public, there were no apologies made by the government  and no assurances that such plans would ever happen again. 

And Obama wants us to trust a government that made such plans. Trust it not to use the vast amount of resources, to include deadly force, it has against its own citizens, when we have the events of Waco and Ruby Ridge to remind us that it has done so. 

The Congressional investigation as to what happend at those two incidents showed what amounted to out-of-control bureaucrats exceeding their authority, with horrific results. Armed conflict was actually sought on the part of Federal bureaucrats in order to 'make an example' of any who challenged their authori-tay.

 Trust such people to have the monopoly on force? Trust largely unaccountable bureaucrats with guns? Trust them after they have proven with deadly results what they are capable of doing?

Mencken said it best:  "The only good bureaucrat is one with a pistol at his head. Put it in his hand and it's good-bye to the Bill of Rights.

It doesn't need any more elaboration than that.

 

 

 

 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 14:36 | 7001015 rwe2late
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 Is a top problem of the USA in the world today

domestic "gun violence" perpetrated by lawfully registered private gun owners?

 

(or does the president have other reason to so divisively prioritize the issue?).

The argument that requiring extra paperwork and added bureaucracy for legal registration will deter the criminally minded from obtaining weapons is rather far-fetched.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 14:59 | 7001150 onlooker
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The GOOD news is that Clinton was happy and said she will do more. The Bad news is that if you are currently a holder of a C&R Federal Gun License you may be subject to currently unknown interpretations of a legal transaction. I suppose ATF will define this more and hopefully publish it widely so that those who have a C&R and *non-C&R* can conform to this new decree.

The problematic part for the gun owner is will there be specific/widely published guidelines so that there is no question regarding a legal sale.

The snake in the wood pile may be the two words regarding a purchase. Get informed!!! 

Here is the Real DANGER for some who are uninformed, careless, or foolish, Court action in a Federal Court can take all your money/assets including your house. If ATF come to gitche they may take ALL your firearms. 

The safe way is to use a FFL dealer. My guy is $20.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 15:14 | 7001248 CitComin
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There will be no safe way! They want the guns and this is just step B .

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 15:46 | 7001444 MeBizarro
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Because that this law doesn't do anything of the sort there are estimated to be over 350M firearms in private hands in the US represnted by anywhere from 60-80M Americans.  Only the biggest dullards and paranoid freaks think that will ever remotely occur. 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 15:24 | 7001311 MeBizarro
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This executive ruling won't change anything of substance and is going to get challenged immediately in the fedeal courts. Even if Clinton is elected and the Senate turns Democratic, the House will still be GOP-majority in '16.

I went into the local gun store this weekend in PA to see if stuff was marked up and sure enough everything was 10-50% higher than normal. It will still crowded and people were buying tons of guns including even handguns and ammo.  Ammo was marked up 50% yet it was moving rapidly off the shelf. 

I talked to the owner and said Obama just gave him the best Jan he will ever have by a wide margin. Always the lowest month of the year with the Christmas hangover and lack of deer hunting sales which are still meaningful in PA. 

Just dipshit Americans (as evidenced the numerous comments on here) who are dumb enough to pay large artitifcal price premiums because they don't remotely undersand the law or aren't aware that PA has GOP majorities in the House/Senate that have notably expanded gun rights the past decade. 

 

 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 16:06 | 7001557 roadhazard
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The US Government will never start taking guns because they Know there will be instant civil war.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 16:08 | 7001565 B.S.D.
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may all the racist get anal cancer in 2016...its not a black or white thing..its a NWO thing..this would be happening whther it was Mccain or Hillary in office...The timeline for these actions was set decades ago...they are extremely patient & focused..so quit with the Obama shit...he's just an empty suit who was placed in office because TPTB felt he could sell thier agenda a little better than the other assholes..mainly because most of the country isnt racist like you pieces of shit

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 18:51 | 7002199 DosZap
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"may all the racist get anal cancer in 2016...its not a black or white thing..its a NWO thing..this would be happening whther it was Mccain or Hillary in office...The timeline for these actions was set decades ago...they are extremely patient & focused..so quit with the Obama shit...he's just an empty suit who was placed in office because TPTB felt he could sell thier agenda a little better than the other assholes..mainly because most of the country isnt racist like you pieces of shit"

 

Why do you think JFK was murdered?,crossed the Federal Reseerve.

Started printing United States Notes( he saw what was happening),decided to KEEP America,AMERICA.

Cost him his lfe.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 16:24 | 7001643 Shaznardickleze...
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Little Noah Posner died twice for gun control. Don't let him down.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 17:46 | 7001955 nmewn
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Because not ONE mass shooting is attributed to a gun show....what a fucking douche...lol 

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 18:43 | 7002160 DosZap
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The confiscation of guns in America would be far more difficult than the deportation of all illegals and muslims.

 

The answer no one can give me with any degree of sucess, or truthfulfness, is WHO will do the ACT?, (or try to.) 

The Military takes an Oath, and they take it damned seriously FOR LIFE, their first duty as a member of any sect of our military is to,

"Protect and defend the CONSTITUTION of the United States of America, against ALL enemies both foreign, and DOMESTIC".Orders that go AGAINST that Oath, given by the President, WILL not be followed (if they are illegal, and do not follow the Constitution strictly.)

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 18:46 | 7002180 DosZap
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Because not ONE mass shooting is attributed to a gun show....what a fucking douche...lol

 

Not ONE at any place that was not a GUN FREE ZONE,(just another phrase for MURDER AT WILL ZONE) either.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 19:16 | 7002312 Herdee
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Bill Clinton has moved into this conversation between us,so answer me this question: Was it a Cuban Cigar that was used in the dirty deed?And is Monica going to be rehired by Hillary if she gets into Office?

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 19:22 | 7002339 El Hosel
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I thought it was a Presidential Muchobusto, of unknow origin.

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 20:27 | 7002563 CitComin
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Does anyone else notice the president in his speech today ,seems to apply something below his eye that causes him to tear up . He certainly does not seem to show any other physical response such as vocal chord tightening or facial distortion of any kind that should be included in an emotional state resulting from grief . Seems very suspicous

Tue, 01/05/2016 - 22:59 | 7003123 onmail1
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Wed, 01/06/2016 - 03:02 | 7003471 africoman
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Certainly Gun Control has been a big UN agenda in relation to Agenda 21 depopulation fulfillment and UN takeover of the countries.They even talked about it on September during inauguration of UN 70 years anniversary. Obola showing crocodile tears made me smile to see once again these globalist who wants your soul would never take a break to accomplish their plan by any means necessary.

Makes me wonder after unsuccessful gun grab of USA, what they gonna do as an excuse to do that.May be come boldly "OK America, we tried to be reason with you many times, killing you to justify taking, and you are not willing, So we are going to take it by force whether you like it or not,we need it bad for you to disarm so that we gonna proceed in our prosperous plan for you".

 

They will gonna turn ugly on this to effect, intensify mass murder by 'planted terrorist', mass shooting etc etc.

What should be our move to tackle and expose this nasty plan? This a battle after loosing your gun imagine how easy it would be for NWO to take shape, taking you out like a rat for whatever reason.This is serious fight America loose many times by this current government, the only in progress accomplishment is this gun shit,please don't loose this fight soon.

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