Juncker: "Dutch 'NO' Vote Will Lead To A Big Continental Crisis"
Submitted by Taco Denkers of Gefira
Juncker: ‘Dutch “NO” will result in big continental crisis’
In April the Dutch people will vote on the European-Ukraine association treaty. In an interview with the NRC, a Dutch leading newspaper, Juncker warned the Dutch voters a “NO” will lead to a big continental crisis. “Russia and anti European movements will profit from a Dutch No, the Dutch has to vote yes for reasons not related to the treaty, the Dutch should act like an European strategist” according to Mr Juncker.
Even the Dutch leader of the most pro European party, Mr Pechtold, was shocked by the warning, fearing it will have an avert affect on the Dutch voters.
The Dutch government introduced a consulting referendum in 2015, the Dutch law claimed democratic improvements while in reality it was constructed to prevent a referendum from ever happening. Dutch people who want a consultative referendum are obliged to collect 300.000 paper signatures. On average it takes an hour to collect one valid signature, the Dutch authorities were absolutely convinced that no one will ever manage to collect that many signatures.
Paradoxically an organization was created by Dutch authorities to facilitate a Dutch referendum, knowing that its principal never want to see a referendum happening. For this reason they do not accept the use of the Dutch digital authentication system (DigID), a system introduced by the Dutch authorities to communicate digitally with the Dutch authorities.
Unfortunately for the Dutch lawmakers a Dutch blog figured out how to collect “real” signatures digitally. People literally has to draw their “real” signature on the PC, using a drawing canvas in their electronic form. They were able to collect about 300.000 signatures, while the Dutch mainstream media completely ignoring this watershed moment.
The first Referendum under the new law is going to be against the Ukraine association treaty. The organization sees the European association treaty with Ukraine as provoking unnecessary violent tension in Europe. The EU was established to promote stability and peace within Europe, however with the treaty they are neglecting the founding principals.
The Europe association treaty and NATO’s involvement in Ukraine resulted in
- Violent riots in Kiev
- Expulsion of the Ukraine government
- Annexation of the Crimea
- War in eastern Ukraine
- Possible enlargement of the EU without the consultation of the EU citizen
- Flow of money to a country that is still ruled by corrupt oligarchs
- European-NATO encroaching into former Soviet Republics
As the Netherlands head the EU presidency, the Dutch will go to the ballot box to vote against the European Ukraine association treaty. Brussels’ elite already knows that there is resentment against the enlargement of the European Union, it is however new that the referendum also includes NATO policies.
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Why bother with a sham vote at all then?
Ya know,
"When it becomes serious, you have to lie."
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/head-eurogroup-admits-lying-about-secre...
Fear not! The EU will, as usual, send in Martin Schulz to convince the voters which will for sure provide the decisive votes against the EU cause.
Sod voters - you know it only matters who counts them and like any other vote; it'll be rigged
One of them 3 guys shot down an airplane.
where are da knee grows?
All the Nazis are coming together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13VxJvMnagc&t=120
Fuck the US for enabling this scum to rise to the surface.
And the other two covered it up.
.. or the US can send in Horseface and Nuland to distribute cookies in the Amsterdam redlight district ..
The irony is that the only reason Mr. Juncker might be recorded in the Annals of European History is that, on one occasion, he screwed up and told the truth.
The cookies caused it all.
You are correct - it isn't actually a referendum at all, it is an "advisory referendum". The Dutch people could vote 100% NO and the Dutch governement could simply ignore the result - the vote does not bind the government. The really interesting things will begin if the government does ignore the people (again).
No, a "NO VOTE" will acknowledge crisis of confidence in the EU by all peoples allowed to vote.
The equivalent in the US would be "None of the above".
The word "Referendum" has replaced the word "socialism" in the mind of EU elite
In four words : Go fuck yourself juncker ( he didn't deserve a capital letter )
If they vote the wrong way they'll be made to vote again, that's how the EU works.
Or just do it anyway like they've done before.
Well in that case, vote HELL NO!
Fuck the euro-junkie Juncker.
& FUCK the Ukraine.
Fuck the EU.
& Fuck VickyClitoris Noodleman-Nuland.
Oh exactly! [/Pyatt]
....yeah, forgot pyatt. Fuck him too.
you'll notice where pyatt ended up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_R._Pyatt
fuck the eu is the OFFICIAL USA STANCE
In that case forcefeeding them that shit sammige called Ukraine should do the trick nicely.
Add in a side of oven ready refugees, and its sure to result in intestinal necrosis.
Such a fine comment deserves an upvote.
re: Nuland. The joos are still running Ukraine. Ukraine is game to you? [/Man on subway] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw
if juncker likes it you know it's a bad deal for all concerned
Juncker can lick my Dutch cheesy balls.
Maybe you & I read this differently @ arbwhore. The officials do not want a vote. This is a forced referendum - forced by the people upon the party elites. This sets up the Dutch to reject the NATO/EU actions in Ukraine, and will be a big problem for the EU leadership, and for NATO. The people will have a chance to say what we have been saying here for 2 years now.
Apropos who's behind the referendum initiative, here are some relevant links:
"GeenPeil gained further fame in 2015 by calling for an advisory referendum on the Ukraine–European Union Association Agreement. The call for this referendum was supported by several Dutch political parties, including the PVV, Groep Bontes/Van Klaveren, SP, 50PLUS and PvdD.[2] Opposing voices to the referendum stated that ......."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeenPeil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Ukraine%E2%80%93European_Union_Association_Agreement_referendum,_2016
Yeah this was a complete grassroots initiative.
Here another publication about this:
"The Netherlands is probably getting a European referendum after an activist website collected enough signatures to trigger a non-binding plebiscite on the EU’s integration pact with Ukraine. The approximately 450,000 signatures amassed by GeenStijl, a satirical news website, far exceeds the 300,000 needed under law to trigger a referendum, and was collected within a month.":
http://southfront.org/netherlands-opposes-the-eu-association-treaty-with...
You're free to do what we tell you
Ukraine is a lost cause now that the Fed took their gold.
Raise money for the people of Donbas being shelled - their homes and schools destroyed - as The Empire seeks to bring "democracy" to them.
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One more decent American, volunteering in Donbass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y64o-KYGvtQ
Txas- I came here to fight fascism.
The reactions on Dutch social media were overwhelmingly, okay you cocksucker, you're practically daring us to vote 'No!'
The Dutch "No" vote will be around 67% again. Maybe even higher. Can't wait.
Yes but the vote won't matter.
I would guess it would be a bit higher.
And Juncker should have realized by now that the Continent is already in crisis.
The most positive element Europe has going for it at the moment is that people are starting to see why the Continent is in such a terrible state and the price that will be paid for letting democracy fade away.
Voting "Yes" to support a Fascist coup is a European strategy?
And why wouldn't "Junker" want to keep up the NATO advances when the propoganda is going so very well for him and the rest of the "partners"?!!!...
Fucking Dutch pussies! /s
Why are the Dutch pussies? They will vote NO like they did before.
/s in bold stands for sarcasm!
That statement is only coming from the U.S. and Merkel's government!
missed that /s which /sucks
I can tell you right now (I am Dutch), there will be a big NO. Not because of the treaty itself, but a sounding NO to the whole EU and it's self elected morons.
The last time whe had a referendum though (june 2005) ......the outcome was swept under the carpet because that outcome was not convient to the Dutch "government",(a large majority voted against the Maastricht treaty) so we'll see what happens this time.
Tell your friends & neighbors that I'm rootin' for ya'.
When I was a young man ca 40 years ago, I spent alot of time in Holland.
Great People. Great 'little' country.
I appreciate the 'Dutch effort' in trying to save Europe from the EU-Fiasco.
Regards X-
If the "Real Hague" ever comes back to life to try and convict the American war criminals to death that started all of it with this ...
I'd pay my taxes in your Country for Life. Seriously the Dutch and everybody else in the EU for that matter needs to ban anything American I MEAN ANYTHING!...
The Americans are too fucking selfish and simply don't give a shit about anyone or anything other than themselves including the fact that our military is trying ever so hard to use you as bait for war with Russia!...
With that last statement said... I think the "mothership" is breaking apart and the Netherlands might be leading the way with it's actions over MH-17 and other!...
no /s ;- )
The Americans are too fucking selfish and simply don't give a shit about anyone or anything other than themselves...
How is this any different from Europe colonizing/raping Africa, South America, and the Far East? How many billions of Euros (or equivilent) in wealth were transferred to europe via colonization? Of course, Africa still has the boot of Europe (and the US of course) on its throat.
BTW, did not junk you.
RP
We're the spawn of the British/Western Europa experiment no argument there...So I would concur with you completely that we are the natural extension of that mindset post-19th Century and it only became more apparent with the introduction of the Central Bank before WWI which plunged us into the odyssey we now enjoy going on 100 years!...
My question to you and every other American that justifies our actions even after the "false flag" of all false flags called 9/11 that sacrificed it's own for more of everything!... (and please don't tell me that just because somebody else does it IT makes it ok)... being nothing more/nothing less than what Europe has done the last 1,000 years....
Well we didn't have nuclear weapons until the U.S. got the bright idea to use them twice and probably on other occassion(s) outside of testing new ones that we both know and don't know about... Outside of Magna BSPs criminal footprint in 3/11 "yes" we ARE responsible given the technology that we've threated the World with both militarily and commercially -like it or not.
Now factor in what the Russians and Chinese have both conventionally and non-conventionally thanks to us and we can ponder the possibilities to an escalation with nuclear weapons to the "cows come home"... YES INDEED ALL OUR FAULT. And telling me that someone else would have done it and used it isn't a very intelligent response to the trillions we've spent in that arms race WE THE PEOPLE of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA created and STARTED!!!
P.S.
By all means "down arrow" me all you want! At least I have a conscience for what my government does everywhere else including shitting on the backs of it's own in order to get it done!!!
+1 for calling it as it is TBH. Tired of all the bullshit all over the west and the MSM.
Guess what feel exactly the same about my government.