In Latest Escalation, Oregon Militia Tears Down Government Fence, Demands Freedom For Ranchers
Last week, Ammon Bundy met Harney County Sheriff David Ward on the side of Lava Bed Road near Highway 78.
Ward was attempting to negotiate a peaceful end to the protracted standoff that began two Saturdays ago when Bundy and a handful of armed militiamen “seized” a remote bird sanctuary in Oregon.
Bundy and his followers decided to occupy the federal building as a show of solidarity with Dwight Hammond and his son Steven who were sent back to jail last week in connection with fires they set back in 2001 and 2006.
Bundy’s militia - who now call themselves the “Citizens for Constitutional Freedom” - say they are standing up for state’s rights in a kind of ad hoc, haphazard rekindling of the Sagebrush Rebellion.
Following the meeting with Ward, Bundy said he felt like the group’s demands were being ignored. The Sheriff agreed. "I don't feel like they think they're getting enough attention yet," Ward remarked.
Subsequently, armed members of the Pacific Patriots Network showed up at the refuge before being asked to leave by Bundy. That visit prompted a meeting between the group and the FBI.
Now, in the latest escalation, Bundy is tearing down a government fence and replacing it with a gate in a move the group says will give local ranchers access to federal land. Here's the incredibly dramatic footage:
Happening now: Bundy breaking down fence on refuge pic.twitter.com/MH6wSoSfoR
— Wanda Moore (@WandaKTVZ) January 11, 2016
Earlier today, Bundy insisted that the men will not be leaving the federal building until the Hammonds are set free.
At daily presser, Bundy focuses on the Hammonds and talks about the cattle fence they plan to take down. https://t.co/zbB6E9yEpr
— Amanda Peacher (@amandapeacher) January 11, 2016
So, there you have it. The first federal property has been destroyed and Bundy has doubled down on the Hammond freedom demands.
Perhaps this latest publicity stunt will prompt authorities to end the 10-day siege although we imagine Bundy will soon be forced to do something a bit more dramatic if he wants to recapture the interest of an American public whose attention span is two days at best.
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kooks. the western rancher republican class can be very odd. get them off of the property dead or alive. no, let them self-actualize and die. their wives will appreciate it too.
You sir, are part of the problem.
May I have a bit more porridge sir?
i'm still searching for the "incredibly dramatic footage" . . . .
I posted awhile back that there was a man from AZ who reeks of instigating spook that has entered the Oregon situation. Sure enough Jon Ritzheimer and his buddy-spook Blaine Cooper are already causing trouble. Keep in mind this guy starts large armed protests outside of Mosques, publishes video of himself shooting up the Koran in the desert and has started inflammatory draw Mohammed contests. Mmmmkay?
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/arizona-militias-continue-rivalry-after-physical-confrontation-in-oregon-7961869
Can someone tell me how the federal government can fucking own property?
Its a corporation
I'm moving my double wide to Yellowstone. Want to first to get my rightful good spot. May put another one in Yosemite. Hell, I may just move into the White House. Is is all ours.......isn't it? No rules? Finally some ranchers opening valuable property so people can have homes of their own. Can we also cut down the trees for lumber. I guess if they can have the grass, I can have the trees.
GM, Ford, all of them can just take the free land and and build factories. Lets take back 'Murica Thanks ranchers.
Why aren't they paying market rate again?
Why am I subsidizing some guys who are damaging property that I am going to have to pay to repair?
The enemy is the Federal government, not the rancher. The Feds shouldnt be the land ownership business, and if they are, then the lands should be available for public use. I pay enough Goddamn taxes to the Federal Death Star.
EXACTLY. That was my point, at least one of us here is thinking clearly. If the fed own's property, then it falls under public land and that means fall's under fair use regulations. The only except is military land, which is owned through contract from the feds.
Once you read this article about their "request" for supplies and worse, one might undrestand that the so-called 3% is actually about 0.3%....
The Miracle Whip Militia of Burns, OregonTearing down a tiny fence by old white men makes headlines ... while the rape of hundreds, if not thousands of European white girls by hundreds of vicious Muslim gangs barely makes the news?!
wtf?!
Barely makes the news? You lying fool, it's front page everywhere in the west. You'd have to be blind not to see it was a massive staged propaganda exercise, performed with the full co-operation of every single EU media outlet - in print and online. And it was about as real as 9-11, 7-7 and Sandy Hook, ad nauseum....
And land protected for enviromental reasons, watersheds for clean drinking water, wildlife preserves to protect species, same with old growth forest, wetlands, p arks and recreation area, wilderness areas, historic sites…..
We do that as a country pretty damn good compared to the rest of the world.
You mean like the land in Nevada that Harry Reid wants to let the Chinese build a solar farm on so his son can make his millions brokering the deal? Or you must mean the Pristine Animas River in Colorado that the EPA royally screwed up. Should I keep going or will you get the point and stfu with your BS .gov cocksucking?
You left out Reid & Co. (his sons) who own over 20% of the land are using it for exploration for rare earth metals and future strip mining. Hell right Pickup, you are SPOT FREAKING ON.
The Reid "land deal" was mostly BS hysteria from the Sagebrush Rebel lobby. The land was nowhere near the Bundy Ranch, was public land that the Chinese wanted to build an energy farm and panel manufacturing facility that would hire ~400 people. What politician would ignore employment possibilities for the constituency? They couldn't get agreements to buy the power so the chinese pulled the plug. The impact on local grazing would have been minimal.
The bigger issue is water and riparian grazing access.
Also, remember some of our biggest international tourism destinations are our public lands. The preserved, refuge, wilderness areas, not the fly, cowshit and weed infested ranch lands.
The Reid "land deal" was mostly BS hysteria from the Sagebrush lobby. The land was nowhere near the Bundy Ranch, was public land that the Chinese wanted to build an energy farm and panel manufacturing facility that would hire ~400 people. What politician would ignore employment possibilities for the constituency? They couldn't get agreements to buy the power so the chinese pulled the plug. The impact on local grazing would have been minimal.
The bigger issue is water and riparian grazing access.
Also, remember some of our biggest international tourism destinations are our public land. The preserved, refuge, wilderness areas, not the fly, cowshit and weed infested ranch lands.
There's no buffalo shit in Yellowstone because the government killed all of them.
Keep that in mind, buddy.
It was Custer, a federal law enforcement officer, a man of the government, that died fighting the Native Americans.
There is no great evil that doesn't benefit from a thorough application of government.
Nothing these ranchers have done has really been against the FEDs. They have been self serving to getting more land for themselves.
They already have welfare rivaling WS Banksters and the MIC and are saying they need more.
FUCK THEM
Hate the federal government on your own time. Don't fall for these ASSHOLE ranchers who have nothing to do with Oregon's interests...
Fuck it. I saw some nice land on the oregon pacific beach front. I'll be building my cabin there and putting up a fence to keep people out.
I like the precedent these ranchers are setting. If the ranchers can take what they want, so can I.
Thank you for reminding me that the people own the land, not the gov.
They are gonna fuck up a good thing. The Feds will start strickly enforcing the rules and others will then pay for their actions.
OH, and Tyler, your article and RT are factually inaccurate. The meeting was with the Idaho militia and the FBI who offered to serve as intermediaries. Just a heads up.
Links?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5w99LTKEA0
As requested...
Thanks
It's unimproved land. What is there to repair, other than the damage that WILL be done by the Feral Gummint?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDw4lsPDEho
When you say "double wide", are you referring to your fat ass?
...or your wife's? ??
I assume you are paying (in ADDITION to taxes) to lease said property like the ranchers, yes? That would be the only fair comparison.
Our federal government came in with guns and removed the native peoples who were living on that land, then gave it to poor settlers in the form of a massive free shit government welfare queen handout. Any questions?
Also I'm suprised you've never heard of government property. There's the White House, then the school that your kids go to, then there's the airports around the country, the place where the city dumps the garbage.. didn't they teach us this stuff on Sesame Street?
Right over your head. Let me know when you catch up with the rest of the bus.
Let me add, they gave away the Indian land in a massive free shit government handout to a bunch of immigrants.
Do you think I carry about "Indians"?
Ranchers.
Start out a member of the FSA, you get really used to being a member of the FSA.
You begin to have illusions that the FS is yours and that there is no cost for it...
Fucking ranchers should pay market rate for the range.
Fucking foreign state ranchers should get out of Oregon.
If it's Fedcoat land, it shouldnt matter whether the users are from Maine, Texas, or Oregon. They all have equal claim to it. And if it's Federale land to the highest bidder, then its time to move the White Housenigger out of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Not even addressing the validity of their point, their point is that it is not federal land; it is Oregon land.
They are not Oregonians.
Read up on their points.
Why can't these ranchers ranch on their OWN GOD DAMNED LAND?
I don't care if it's federal or oregon land. It's not theirs. It belongs to everyone.
I though ZHers were libertarians. You all sound like entitled FSA faggots... gimme somma dat free land nigga.
Lease. Google it, as apparently no one knows what it is.
Those properties you mention are not owned by the Fed, other than the white house. Did you fail grade school or what? Maybe you could have learned something from the Sesame street you mentioned. The first part of your statement answers nothing at all about the current ownership of land either. If you are shill you need to do a lot better.
Face it, there are some dumb motherfuckers posting on this site these days.
How the hell anyone would agree with that load of crap is beyond me.
Aztlan, fed, child? Dunno, I wish someone would shout "go back to Germany" at me, try to deport me, I would oblige.
Sorry for the 8+ generations of service, its all yours! Or Mexicos, whatever.
If these "stolen from the natives shits want to keep it up, what about native land in Europe, shouldn't they be learning a valuable lesson about diseased blankets?
And for the record, like most native born white Americans I have more respect for the native tribes than whites, like it matters.
I said government properties, not Fed. Also if you don't want to admit that the foundation of Federal land ownership is violence that's ok, you can just keep pretending that we purchased the land or obtained it through voluntary treaties. But you still might want to read up on the Property Clause of the Constitution and the various Supreme Court decisions that have upheld it.
The same way anybody does... a paper claim.
The federal government made people offers they couldn't refuse. Otherwise, your question makes no sense at all.
I know, if this is the best they can do to stir the pot and aggrevate the feds while garnering more public support, then they have failed miserably. I would wager half of us here on ZH have cut a fence or two in our day... LAME
You forgot to say please.
Sounds like Gruel and Unusual punishment.
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