Virginia Senator: "Saudi Arabia And Turkey Are The Greatest Threats To World Peace"
Last year, we noted with some incredulity that when it comes to US foreign policy in the Mid-East, someone inside the Beltway actually "gets it".
That someone is Hawaii Democrat Tulsi Gabbard who knows something about the region thanks to the fact that she served in the Middle East - twice. Now, she’s sponsoring a bipartisan bill to stop what she calls an “illegal” war against the government of Bashar al-Assad in Syria.
It’s not necessarily that Gabbard is a fan of Assad.
Rather, she understands that overthrowing “dictators” very often (and by “very often” we mean “every single damn time”) ends in tears for the locals who at best end up with a regime that’s even more brutal than its predecessor and at worst see their country descend into outright chaos.
Asked about human rights abuses allegedly perpetrated by the Assad government, Gabbard said the following in November:
"People said the very same thing about Saddam (Hussein), the very same thing about (Moammar) Gadhafi, the results of those two failed efforts of regime change and the following nation-building have been absolute, not only have they been failures, but they've actually worked to strengthen our enemy."
Now, another US politician is speaking out against Washington's Mid-East policy. This time it's Virginia state Senator Dick Black who spoke to RT about what he believes are the "two greatest dangers to world peace."
Like Tulsi, Dick knows a thing or two about war and about the Mid-East. Here's a bit from his official bio:
He enlisted in the Marines in 1963. By age 21, Black became a second lieutenant and was among the Marines' youngest aircraft carrier-qualified pilots. He flew 269 combat helicopter missions in Vietnam. Ground fire struck his aircraft on four different occasions.
Black also engaged in bitter ground combat with the 1st Marine Regiment. His radiomen were killed and he was wounded during an attack against enemy positions across the Hoi An River. Black served in small-unit actions where two fellow Marines--PFC Gary Martini and SSgt. Jimmie Howard--won the Medal of Honor. While in office, he was the only member of the Virginia General Assembly who held the Purple Heart Medal for wounds received in battle.
Dick left the Marines to attend the University of Florida. There, he was twice elected to the Student Senate. He graduated with honors from the School of Business in 1973 and earned a law degree in 1976. He practiced law in Fort Walton Beach, Florida, before accepting a commission as a Major in the U.S. Army Judge Advocate General's Corps (JAG).
Black headed the Army's Criminal Law Division at the Pentagon. He developed Executive Orders for the President's signature, and laws that were enacted by Congress. He advised senior government officials on issues of national significance. He testified before the U.S. Congress, representing the U.S. Army, on four occasions.
When it comes to assessing what really represents a threat to peace and security in the world, Dick hits the nail on the head. “I believe that Saudi Arabia and Turkey are the two greatest dangers to world peace,” Black told RT. “It is Saudi Arabia, through the Wahhabist doctrine, that is spreading terrorism across the globe. It’s not Iran, it’s not Syria or any other country.”
He's also right on target with his assessment of Syria's civil war:
“Virtually all arms, ammunition, equipment, supplies, jihadists, medical support – all of it comes from Turkey. Right now, ISIS sends 44,000 barrels of oil per day – stolen barrels, most of it from Syria – across the border into Turkey. The State Department has publicly said that there’s only a trickle of oil that gets into Turkey, but I have personally spoken to Kurdish activists … [who] observed hundreds of ISIS oil tankers carrying stolen Syrian oil into Turkey on a daily basis.”
"Turkey is actively assisting the ISIS rebels and helping the Al-Nusra rebels which are linked with Al-Qaeda.”
“In both places we’ve got terrorists, and in both places their major support comes out of Turkey. And it comes out of Turkey with approval from the highest levels of government.”
And here's Black on Erdogan:
“Erdogan has a dream of becoming a new Ottoman Empire,” Black said. “He’s a very calculating, very vicious individual and, I think, a great danger. Erdogan won an absolute majority of the Turkish parliament, which will enable him to rewrite the constitution. Once he had that total power to impose an absolute dictatorship – which he intends to do – and he publicly said that his model is that of Adolph Hitler.”
And on the latest spat between Saudi Arabia and Iran:
“What’s happening is that they [the Saudi family] are trying to restore some of the hostility between Shiites and the Sunnis. The Saudis massacred 47 people. I’m sure some of them were genuine criminals, but many of them were simply political opponents. And then there was an inevitable reaction which they knew there would be. And the Saudis, in typical fashion, have now shown a sense of outrage that people would be angered by the level of their debauchery – and this is typical of the Saudis.”
So this is a war hero and a lawyer who worked on Executive Orders for the President shouting from the rooftops that Washington's Mid-East policy not only amounts to lunacy, but in fact makes the world a more dangerous place.
Actually, it's worse than that. Black is suggesting that the US knowingly and openly supports the two governments that pose the greatest threat to global peace and security.
And he's exactly right.
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Heard a prediction that WW3 will be aligned as follows. Russia US Iran Europe Israel South Korea Japan and India vs turkey Saudi China indonesia N korea Pakistan .... I thought it sounded like baloney until Trump started talking peace with russia and more people begin to prefer Iran to Saudi...
About time someone found replacements for Iraq and Afghanistan.
Those were so last years fashion, old tired boring wars, all fucked out tired pornware wars.
Now, we got some new kids on the block with lotsa oil and gold and strategic country locations to make Vlad shit his pants into WW3 stant.
The Military Industrial Complex must be shizzling down their legs like they are about to get the spanking and strap on bung holing they have always dreamed of.
Woo Hoo.
well, he got that part at least, but somehow doesn't recognize that the usa is an even greater threat to world peace? oh yeah, that's because he works for the ussa government.
Watch, I think they're in the process of throwing SA under the bus. The corporate MSM will suddenly discover that 15 of the 19 alleged 'hijackers' on 9/11 were Saudi nationals, which is not the whole story, nor even close, but it'll be a fallback position for the Syndicate.
The CIA thinks they're robots who they can control and unleash against any state the CIA wants them to. They weren't supposed to be able to think for themselves....Ooops!
"The Tribe Inc." setting up the next dominoes to fall.
Yep! Don't ever forget "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" (http://zfacts.com/p/139.html) where Israel's Netanyahu is advised to underatake a program to shatter its Arab neighbors into ethnic and sectarian units too weak to challenge Israel's regional dominance. This document was written by American/ Israeli dual citizen, Richard Perle, in 1996, the same year he and his neocon buddies wrote PNAC.
"By deception we wage war." Everytime an Arab nation is vilified the first thing I do is to check to see which Israeli covert op is running.
A 1996 report by the Israeli think tank Institute for Advanced Strategic and Political Studies (IASPS), entitled A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm, was written as a private communication to the new Israeli Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu. The team responsible for the report was led by Richard Perle, and included Douglas Feith, David and Meyrav Wurmser. Perle personally handed the report to Netanyahu on July 8, 1996.
Summarizing the recommendations:
The recommendations to the Israeli government to sabotage the peace process in Palestine and refuse to return captured land to the Palestinians are presented by the authors of Clean Break as part of a larger plan to allow Israel to “shape its strategic environment,” by “removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq,” weakening Syria and Lebanon, and finally Iran. Clean Break does not describe Iraq as a threat, but as the weakest of the enemies of Israel, the least dangerous and the easiest to break. In a follow-up to Clean Break, entitled Coping with Crumbling States: A Western and Israeli Balance of Power Strategy for the Levant, Wurmser emphasizes …[that t]he changes proposed …are not expected to bring any benefit to the Arab world. Instead, the goal is clearly to weaken Israel’s enemies by sharpening ethnic, religious and territorial disputes between countries and within each country. After the fall of Saddam, … Iraq will be “ripped apart by the politics of warlords, tribes, clans, sects, and key families,” for the benefit of Israel.
Take away fiat money (the fed) and none of the bad stuff happens...
Sorry Dick, but Saudi Arabia and Turkey pale in comparison to the dangers posed to the world by the USA...
"And we will finance the young men of these countries one-way trips to Germany, and central Europe in general, as well!"
When the redacted 28 pages from the 9/11 report get declassified... then we'll know they are serious about turning from SA. Until then... sound and fury.
No such thing. That will merely show the depth of complicity of everyone in the coverup.
9/11 maybe scammed the Saudis and abused their nationals as Israeli Mossad assets. They had no reason to trust SA, did they?
OTOH, someting I saw recently talked about the Sr. Bush getting a $79B bribe from SA, and SA and Israel cooperate far more than discussed in MSM.
From the outside, intelligence agencies seem to have more in common than the agencies and their own government. Bush dealt with Bandar, who went on to head their intelligence agency as did Bush.
9/11 was an Israeli-Neocon + CIA + Deep State operation. Because the Israelis started planning that operation 30 years ago (can't remember where I saw that, but there are documents somewhere) and because the Israelis have such control of Congress and from the example of Netanyahu's standing ovations there and the direction of net flows of wealth and information, one could conclude Israelis are the dominant partner in that relationship.
I think those 26 pages have information that will unravel more of 9/11 story, for which people get killed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGdialRMdjU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_DNxDEPfu0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5npnpTNYmMY
Given how much Bush and Obama lie, can we trust them to tell the truth about 9/11? Were the Saudis more involved and they're hiding it, or was it just the case of finding a way to blame someone. Flying gascans smashing at high velocity into stationary objects hundreds of feet above the ground and they magically find undamaged passports in the rubble?
Does intelligent life exist within the Beltway?
A Yale professor once remarked that the telescopes of Planet Washington do no reach Planet Earth.
Intelligent life does not exist at RT network. (Idiots)
They interviewed a guy named Dick Black, who is a STATE SENATOR from Virgina ?!
He has zero responsibility or authority within the U.S. federal government. he is not a part of the federal government, nor is he a bureaucrat.
His job is to make laws for the people of Virginia. Laws which govern funding of public schools, beach erosion, highway construction, et al.
A professor of Middle Eastern Studies at University of Virginia is a greater authority on Saudi Arabia or Turkey tan a STATE SENATOR. Why not cite a professor?
Because depending on those elites hasn't worked so well for us.
One reliable thing about academics is, they will give you extremely erudite opinions of any length, any opinion you wish. Bush has no lack of academics in every area willing to write studies and reports and serve on commission. Ditto Obama, and the Fed and ...
Note, for example, how few of our academics have noticed the major event of our time, the realization that 9/11 was indeed a false flag operation against the American people.
Better some smart guy with some in-country experience, That reporter they killed, Michael Hastings, I think he spent a lot of time in Iraq and was willing to critique the government. There must be some they haven't intimidated yet.
It depends...you get an "alternative" prez in office, and maybe the CIA and DoD think they need a new war...prez dejure declassifies pages of 9/11 report and the MSM magically finds SA/Turkey links to ISIS. That'll whip the sheeples into enough of a war frenzy, plus the promise of an end to terrorism by getting at the source and they'll be happy to wage One. Last. War.
I think he's probably more upset that SA and Turkey are moving in on the US hussle.
We blather as much as the Norks. And we are just as weak.
The US used to be called a paper tiger. It was not true then. It is now.
Russia and China have supported North Korea countless times to include 1950's Korean War - 500,000 chinese on Manchurian Border pushed MacArthur back to the 38' parallel where they are today - Russia believes the temporary occupants of the WH have no contracts that are permanent obligations for the nation - so it will never be other than detente
Japan will not be aligning with China for the next couple decades at least.
I have no idea why India would give a single fuck about the Saudis.
China on the other hand, possibly.
US aligning to get rid of Saudis sounds like a pipe dream to me though. Yes let's take out our oil drug supplier. That's a good idea.
How in the world did you get so many down-votes for such benign comment? I upvoted you out of protest and confusion. What, you just got a ton of haters or something?
Swap out Turkey for Israel, keep Saudi Arabia, and yes, then you are in a good position to cut the head off the snake.
But the beast would still be alive and well, slithering around in Wall St, City of London, Frankfurt, Basel...
As usual, you get the downvoters who don't realize ZH provides an avenue for uncensored dialogue... A red arrow without a response just means you've got tiny balls and incoherent thoughts.
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There's no arguing with that.
i up voted you.I agree about including the only overt zionist state but would keep the crypto- zionist states i.e. Saudia arabia, turkey, UAE, Qater etc.
Well I'll be a Monkeys Nutsack...FINALLY...FUCKING FINALLY!...ONE of our "leaders" has figured out what I, and probably a MILLION others that DON'T have their heads up their ASSES, knew YEARS AGO....ALL the WAY BACK to the Twin Tower bombing under CLINTON!...the TRAIL OF TERROR, is WELL WORN, into and out of, SAUDI ARABIA!
A Democrat!!
Now Bernie, jump on this wagon and shove it up the ass of the establishment! Trump, you're welcome too! If you Dare!...Hillary, fuck you, you cunt, you're an ACTIVE member of the Saudi terror sponsoring "regime change" mechanism.
I swear to the Magic Man in the Sky Bernie, if you appear on TV and say "we're tired of hearing about Saudi Arabia sponsoring terror"; I'm gonna kick ya in the nuts!
Such BS. SA has had no general operations outside of the ME that I have any memory of.
Patsy supplier only, CIA and Mossad are the pathway, of course. There are CIA connections from the WTC 93 through OKC through 9/11 and Mossad is strong in 9/11, has been partners with the US CIA and other agencies forever. Major info flows in their direction.
What would be SA's interest in bombing the US? Their wild religious folks sometime attack them, but not often.
I think I am in love.
Take a number. I saw her first. Wow.
She's still a "progressive"...
You're absolutely spot-on.
She is not proposing anything that the DNC establishment has not approved.
And it saddens me to see so many ZHers can't see that she is being groomed by the DNC for high office.
They're going to be suckered in just like many Libertarians and otherwise "awake" people were in 2008 when another progressive who was groomed for high office by the DNC slithered his way into the WH.
I think she would be a natural choice for VP for Trump. Bipartisan ticket from the get-go, a woman, a go-getter and not a BS party hack and not too hard on the eyes either.
I don't know this lady all that well, but a "Moderate" (center/left) women would be the jackpot for Trump; an Hispanic female would be off the charts!
I think it would be a mistake for Trump to have a White Male running mate; especially anyone his age or older...the "Old Rich White Mans Club for President" pair isn't going to sell that well...sorry, but the Presidential race is 40% substance and 60% appearance/likability...Trump is as ugly as a mud fence; he needs beauty and brains by his side...I think he knows that...
Trump's Achilles heel is his past liberalism.
If he put a progressive chick on his ticket just for special-interest group appeal, it would destroy his chances of winning.
You are in a long line. She is beautiful in body and mind.
Half right. She's a communist.
You guys are talking about the RT girl right?
I guess they are in the way off greater israel ?
I would say they are the vessels.
But he needs to look closer to home for the true #1.
Merika, fuck yeah!
pods
but who runs merika????
same tribe that ran the british empire?
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"Saudi Arabia And Turkey Are The Greatest Threats To World Peace, after the United States and the EU"
Fixed it for ya.
The current USA's MIC is, and had BEEN FOR DECADES, "The Greatest Threat To World Peace"....we enable all of these other players...they are all the USA's "Clients"...if you follow the terror trail, it rarely leads back to the USA...but it ALWAYS leads back to one of the USA's "Clients".
Well except for the British and American support they got.
Which country has bombed the following countries since 1945?
China 1945-46
Korea 1950-53
China 1950-53
Guatemala 1954
Indonesia 1958
Cuba 1959-60
Guatemala 1960
Belgian Congo 1964
Guatemala 1964
Dominican Republic 1965-66
Peru 1965
Laos 1964-73
Vietnam 1961-73
Cambodia 1969-70
Guatemala 1967-69
Lebanon 1982-84
Grenada 1983-84
Libya 1986
El Salvador 1981-92
Nicaragua 1981-90
Iran 1987-88
Libya 1989
Panama 1989-90
Iraq 1991
Kuwait 1991
Somalia 1992-94
Bosnia 1995
Iran 1998
Sudan 1998
Afghanistan 1998
Yugoslavia – Serbia 1999
Afghanistan 2001
Libya 2011
You get a hint. It is the Greatest Country in the WorldTM and the most peaceful and prosperous one ever.
other than missing most of the ones since 2000 good list.
I also dont see NYC on the list.
Yeah, like WTC1, WTC2, WTC7, OKC, Boston Marathon... Not 'bombings' in a classical sense (except 4 the last two), but 'synthetically' served the same purpose.