Virginia Senator: "Saudi Arabia And Turkey Are The Greatest Threats To World Peace"
Last year, we noted with some incredulity that when it comes to US foreign policy in the Mid-East, someone inside the Beltway actually "gets it".
That someone is Hawaii Democrat Tulsi Gabbard who knows something about the region thanks to the fact that she served in the Middle East - twice. Now, she’s sponsoring a bipartisan bill to stop what she calls an “illegal” war against the government of Bashar al-Assad in Syria.
It’s not necessarily that Gabbard is a fan of Assad.
Rather, she understands that overthrowing “dictators” very often (and by “very often” we mean “every single damn time”) ends in tears for the locals who at best end up with a regime that’s even more brutal than its predecessor and at worst see their country descend into outright chaos.
Asked about human rights abuses allegedly perpetrated by the Assad government, Gabbard said the following in November:
"People said the very same thing about Saddam (Hussein), the very same thing about (Moammar) Gadhafi, the results of those two failed efforts of regime change and the following nation-building have been absolute, not only have they been failures, but they've actually worked to strengthen our enemy."
Now, another US politician is speaking out against Washington's Mid-East policy. This time it's Virginia state Senator Dick Black who spoke to RT about what he believes are the "two greatest dangers to world peace."
Like Tulsi, Dick knows a thing or two about war and about the Mid-East. Here's a bit from his official bio:
He enlisted in the Marines in 1963. By age 21, Black became a second lieutenant and was among the Marines' youngest aircraft carrier-qualified pilots. He flew 269 combat helicopter missions in Vietnam. Ground fire struck his aircraft on four different occasions.
Black also engaged in bitter ground combat with the 1st Marine Regiment. His radiomen were killed and he was wounded during an attack against enemy positions across the Hoi An River. Black served in small-unit actions where two fellow Marines--PFC Gary Martini and SSgt. Jimmie Howard--won the Medal of Honor. While in office, he was the only member of the Virginia General Assembly who held the Purple Heart Medal for wounds received in battle.
Dick left the Marines to attend the University of Florida. There, he was twice elected to the Student Senate. He graduated with honors from the School of Business in 1973 and earned a law degree in 1976. He practiced law in Fort Walton Beach, Florida, before accepting a commission as a Major in the U.S. Army Judge Advocate General's Corps (JAG).
Black headed the Army's Criminal Law Division at the Pentagon. He developed Executive Orders for the President's signature, and laws that were enacted by Congress. He advised senior government officials on issues of national significance. He testified before the U.S. Congress, representing the U.S. Army, on four occasions.
When it comes to assessing what really represents a threat to peace and security in the world, Dick hits the nail on the head. “I believe that Saudi Arabia and Turkey are the two greatest dangers to world peace,” Black told RT. “It is Saudi Arabia, through the Wahhabist doctrine, that is spreading terrorism across the globe. It’s not Iran, it’s not Syria or any other country.”
He's also right on target with his assessment of Syria's civil war:
“Virtually all arms, ammunition, equipment, supplies, jihadists, medical support – all of it comes from Turkey. Right now, ISIS sends 44,000 barrels of oil per day – stolen barrels, most of it from Syria – across the border into Turkey. The State Department has publicly said that there’s only a trickle of oil that gets into Turkey, but I have personally spoken to Kurdish activists … [who] observed hundreds of ISIS oil tankers carrying stolen Syrian oil into Turkey on a daily basis.”
"Turkey is actively assisting the ISIS rebels and helping the Al-Nusra rebels which are linked with Al-Qaeda.”
“In both places we’ve got terrorists, and in both places their major support comes out of Turkey. And it comes out of Turkey with approval from the highest levels of government.”
And here's Black on Erdogan:
“Erdogan has a dream of becoming a new Ottoman Empire,” Black said. “He’s a very calculating, very vicious individual and, I think, a great danger. Erdogan won an absolute majority of the Turkish parliament, which will enable him to rewrite the constitution. Once he had that total power to impose an absolute dictatorship – which he intends to do – and he publicly said that his model is that of Adolph Hitler.”
And on the latest spat between Saudi Arabia and Iran:
“What’s happening is that they [the Saudi family] are trying to restore some of the hostility between Shiites and the Sunnis. The Saudis massacred 47 people. I’m sure some of them were genuine criminals, but many of them were simply political opponents. And then there was an inevitable reaction which they knew there would be. And the Saudis, in typical fashion, have now shown a sense of outrage that people would be angered by the level of their debauchery – and this is typical of the Saudis.”
So this is a war hero and a lawyer who worked on Executive Orders for the President shouting from the rooftops that Washington's Mid-East policy not only amounts to lunacy, but in fact makes the world a more dangerous place.
Actually, it's worse than that. Black is suggesting that the US knowingly and openly supports the two governments that pose the greatest threat to global peace and security.
And he's exactly right.
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Iraq 2003? Syria 2015?
They probably began bombing a couple more while you were composing the list but it sure isn't "America" that is creating these wars it's the CFR/BB globalists and their CIA/MI6/Mossad/Whitehouse assets...
I disagree. The greatest threat to world peace is the giant nuclear armed lumbering retard known as the U.S.
I sometimes wonder how the rest of the world will deal with us in the future, after our collapse. I imagine they'll let us think we still have power, purely for internal control purposes, but in reality- no real power.
Sure, we'll still have a President and he'll still have the "nuclear football" carried around with him, but if he ever pushes the button no ICBMs will launch from their underground silos, no Trident subs will rise to launch depth and send their missiles hurtling towards their targets. It will just send an automated fax to some low level clerk deep inside the UN who notifies his superiors, files it and then everyone promptly forgets about it.
I don't think we'll be so lucky. I have a feeling that there are a lot of people in this world who have a bone to pick with the U.S.
I have a feeling that Israel might have as many 'undeclared' nukes as anyone. (& stashed all over the fucking place)...
I disagree. I believe its actually Israel. Especially because of Samson Option. And they control US as well. Treasury, FED, IMF etc. It was people like Wolfowitz that pushed for Iraq war after all.
Is Erdogan going to pull a Hitler as in he wants to eliminate just the Jews, or does he want to eliminate all non-Arabs as well?
Erdogan is on Zionist payroll. His arming of ISIS and smuggling the oil to Israel is essential proof of this.
Is he Donmeh like Kemal Ataturk? That awaits to be seen. Either way, unless he can convince Putin he is trustworthy (unlikely) he is done for.
Jews...no. More like the Kurds.
How did you get so informed????
I thought only I knew this!
11 of the 19 hijackers from 9-11
both the san bernardino shooters
the ISIS guy who shot the cop in philly
i was wondering at what point someone from our congress or white house raises the question about saudi arabia and their "exports" to us other than oil.
philly shooter was a hood rat not a Saudi
sorry, guess he just his umm, training, there
Suspect in Philadelphia Police Shooting Had Visited Egypt and Saudi Arabia
Authorities try to determine if man has terrorist connections and whether his overseas travel is significant to investigation - WSJ
http://www.wsj.com/articles/suspect-in-philadelphia-shooting-of-policema...
and the handlers for 9/11 were................
No but pardon me Senator YOU ARE THE GREATEST THREAT TO WORLD PEACE and here is the proof of your "handy work" at the Department of Genocide just this year alone!
If you want Saudi Arabia, Turkey U.K. and "Israel" the last one which of course you helped to create and that became your pimp and you it's faithful whore through bribery and extortion, then simply stop creating lies like this one to go to war raping and murder millions of people and stealing their shit in the first place bankrupting your Nation and all those that you coerce through the use of force going on 70 years now!!!
Sonny, you could not be more wrong about Dick Black. He represents a jurisdiction near mine, and I wish he was my senator.
One fact you seem to have missed is that he is a STATE Senator in the Senate of Virginia located in Richmond, and would have no votes or input on either of the matters with which you have slurred him. He opposed Bush's wars and, while he is imperfect, he has been a good friend of pro-life, freedom loving Constitutional conservatives in VA.
Preaching to someone who campaigned for the Delegate out of the same District that ran for the U.S. Senate a few years back and lost to "Pimp" Kaine... If you listened in on those debates or even remember it the NDAA didn't even come up in the filtered Q&A from any of them!
Where are they now on the issue(s) of the NDAA Section 1021 and 1022 and will NOBODY but NOBODY speak to or pick that thread up again after the POTUS and the U.S. Congress signed it into "law" in 2011?!!!
I can't wait to hear what you have to say PTMY!
Sorry you had to wait, but here's what I would say.
Try to keep in mind that the debate you so painfully remember (and which I, admittedly, do not remember at all) was for a position in Richmond, VA which has virtually no say on NDAA matters. Contestants for the race would win no votes taking any position on the NDAA about which most Americans and Virginians have absolutely no knowledge. The purpose of a debate is to distinguish yourself from the other candidate(s) to garner more votes so you can win the election. People who use debates to educate the people while knowing that they have no chance to win an election, like Ron Paul, provide a great service but do not get a vote in the legislature and they attain no executive authority.
It is embarrassingly obvious that you have a personal grudge because your thoughtfully but idealistically written NDAA question didn't make it into the referenced debate. Try to step back and become a more objective arbiter of reality rather than letting an old hurt cause you to publicly slur a good, albeit imperfect, man.
You write a lot of good stuff here SOCN. This was not among it.
So let me ask you... When does 10th Amendment take over when the Federal government does the unthinkable and violates virtually every tenet of the U.S. Constitution?...
This is why Bob Marshall threw his hat in the ring when the NDAA was passed into law and under the provision(s) in section 1022 and I might add alarmingly so stated that essentially the POTUS without Congressional oversight or consent has the authority and "extra-judicial" right( courtesy of the blessings of Congress who rubber stamped it) after passage to commit the worst form of treason possible without a Constitutional Convention to decide those "provision(s)" can abscond with anyone in the State of Virginia or anywhere else in this Country for that matter if he so chooses a person, any person to be a "terrorist" as judge, jury and executioner!
In all fairness to Bob Marshall he tried to bring it's significance into focus going into his campaign but when he took it to the State House in Richmond it got scuttled by his colleague(s) which also included a visit from Congressman Frank Wolf to have the temerity to threaten delegates in the House if anyone followed Marshall's suit to bring it into the light and ensure the State made it a "wedge issue" in the upcoming Senate campaign (at that time) in 2012.
Tim Kaine like Cantor are Zionist elites within the State and made sure that none of the issue(s) regarding the NDAA would ever see the light of day and they were paid handsomely to do so...
Just in case you wanted to know how absolutely corrupt and pusillanimous they all are!
"When does 10th Amendment take over when the Federal government does the unthinkable and violates virtually every tenet of the U.S. Constitution?..."
I'm not sure every tenet of the Constitution has not already been violated. And, I think that answers the question about "when".
People don't understand what liberty is - most would not be able to distinguish between liberty and libertine, and very few understand it to be the acknowledged right to do the right thing. As long as there are enough FRNs, food supplies, heating/cooling, communications access for bread and circuses etc., this will continue.
States will not come to the rescue, though I hope there are some that will be refuges for the sane when the inevitable happens. Otherwise, maybe we'll meet up in the FEMA camp where we can plot insurrections with our sharpened sporks. They do know who we are, you know.
...maybe we'll meet up in the FEMA camp where we can plot insurrections with our sharpened sporks. They do know who we are, you know.
PTMY
If we ever do have the opportunity to meet one another it will have to take place in Washington D.C. when we "hopefully" come to our senses and burn it to the ground to start over!...
Because I'll be long gone before they "knock on my door" to collect my ass for A.P. Hill -Bowling Green. All I can say is thank God my State is at least loyal to the 2nd Amendment!!!
"Fellow Virginian" I'll leave it there!
Dick Black is a Virginia State Senator and I'm pretty sure the state of Virginia isn't bombing other countries.
Black is one of the good guys. One of the very few.
Gees guys at least he publicly stated some facts. These two aren't hugable as most of the government tries to make you believe. Why do they do that? I have no rational answer.
Black says Barry's Middle East policy is lunacy?
Barry will clear that all up tonight in the SOTU address with his characteristic straight-from-the-heart candor. I plan to watch for the first time in years. TV volume all the way off, stereo cranked all the way up with death metal. I expect that the SOTU address will seem less surreal that way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If9VmBlp82c
But both Turkey and Saudi Arabia are US serfs. They take their instructions directly from Washington or Langley.
US Involvement in Turkey’s Shoot Down of the Russian Jet
http://journal-neo.org/2015/12/01/us-involvement-in-turkey-s-shoot-down-...
Saudi Arabia keeps bombing the hell out of Yemen with full US support. Over 100 hospitals have been bombed in Yemen and those crimes are ignored by the Western media.Yemen: Five medical staff dead in third bombing of Doctors Without Borders facilities http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/01/12/yeme-j12.html …
I'd rather have the opinion of the President of the United State, which we will get tonight, vs. some state senator from Virginia that has no access to real time classified briefings from our warfighters, intelligence services and diplomats. We give these outsiders to much credit for knowing what's going on. We have a plan and should stick to it. Be ashamed if two junior elected officials screwed up a plan years in the making.
(This oughta help my boredom)
i don't like that these guys have to dance around israel's complicity in this batshitcrazy foreign policy but if opposition to the policy ultimately puts israel back in its box then all is good. general patraeus testified before congress in 2009 that israel is the biggest existential threat to the usa. he is gone but i think he taught the opposition to usa foreign policy that a back door is the best way to deal with them.
so, yea. saudi arabia and turkey are the enemy(friends of israel) and iran is the good guy. i like that policy.
or as putin recently proclaimed, "i tried to tell you but you wouldn't listen."
The whole idea is for them to use the Goy as 'enforcer'. It's been that way for decades now. Goyim lives are dispensable - why, it's written in Heeb scripture no less so why should anyone be surprised...? And when there is a surprise - say like one of their own getting taken down, you get cute little quips like this:
"The Gentiles are responsible for this..."
Yours truly,
Ruth Made-off (with yer shekels)
Public officials aren't allowed to mention Israhell.
This is very confusing to have a sitting politician speaking such truths. What donors is he sucking up to? Who put those words in his mouth? Where's the hook? Is he retiring? Does he have a terminal illness?
Jews satanic cult is in full control of US Corp. and a great manipulator of other countries policy. Jews satanic cult is a devil's representative authority on earth and conducts of what been ordered thru their banking cartel.
Wow. A US Senator who (mostly) gets it. I suppose one has to cut him some slack for leaving out the US.
Black is a Virginia state senator. Virginia's US Senators are Warner and Kaine.
Well a few will speak half truths to get their name out there. Remember its an election year. These govt parasites and law degreed filth want to stay on the gravy train.
If this guy spoke one word about Turkey smuggling the oil to Israel, or Israel's shepherding of militants to medical facities - no one inside the loop would give him the time of day.
Then all those consulant fees and speaker fees would dry up. Nah this guy is playing it safe while remaining edgy.
"Just nuke Riyadh" (Sat, 12/12/2015 - 16:53 | 6915444 Kirk2NCC1701)
Some have argued that "Mecca, Medina and Jerusalem would be more appropriate targets"
To which I responded (Thu, 11/05/2015 - 14:14 | 6754516 Kirk2NCC1701):
Yup, make those places glow for the next million years, and you'd have a real chance of Peace On Earth.
Especially after no Guy In The Sky intervenes or shows up, to maintain the ancient EOTW 'prophecies'. Even then, I'd expect organized religion to do what it has always done, when confronted with extinction: To re-invent itself, with a new spin. Cause sheeple are gullible and 'stoopid'.
Why is why the old saying applies: There will be no peace until the very last monarch is hung by the entrails of the last cleric (priest, rabbi, imam).
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2016/01/12: All three Abrahamic religions have extremely dangerous fanatics & zealots, who won't allow the world to have peace, and people of each 'faith' are busy pointing fingers at the other faiths. Extremists of all three faiths need to be taken out of the gene pool entirely. But good luck with that, as it's equivalent to saying "Let's kill all cockroaches". The next best thing, is to remove them from positions of wealth, power and influence. Sounds good and achievable with great effort.
Try reading the Scripture before commenting; you always make a fool of yourself when speaking from the place of total ignorance, for the fool (stupid person) says in his heart there is no God. Why? The complexity and nature of creation speaks explicitly of an intelligence far beyond human understanding, which is the precise reason you bury your head in the sand despite yourself and the creation you have enjoyed your entire life. Just saying. On a side note; how do you know what is right and what is wrong? By what measure? Is that measure right or wrong? Think long and hard about how you can know such a thing apart from a moral lawgiver, the Author of life you have and hopefully enjoy.
"Try reading the Scripture"...total Bullshit...WRITTEN BY MEN to GAIN CONTROL of other WEAK MINDED men.
I can't expalin the Universe, but I KNOW that a "Magic Man in the Sky" didn't provide books for us to understand our origin. How do I know this? Those books, ALL OF THEM are full of ERRORS, HUGE FUCKING ERRORS about our Universe.
The earth is 6000 years old...BS..."God" created science and math, and using those tools that were PROVIDED BY "GOD", MAN can clearly see the Earth is not 6000 years old. PROOF that the idea of a "6000 year old Earth" was written by MEN who were ignorant of "Gods' Gift" of Science.
There may be a "creator"; probably is...BUT...it is NOT YOUR "GOD" nor is it the 1000's of other "God's" CREATED BY MAN throughout recorded history.
Put down your fairly tale books and stop giving your money and "faith" to MEN selling you a false "God".
"how do you know what is right and what is wrong?..by what measure?"
Right and Wrong are determined by concensus.
>At one point, even Jesus Freaks thought is was "right" to OWN other people...
R&W are determined by the people that will live under the rules...and R&W have had some wild, and disastrous, definitions across history...and most of the R&W definitions came from the "God" that was popular at that time.
"The complexity and nature of creation speaks explicitly of an intelligence far beyond human understanding"
Far beyond yours, obviously.
I understand it perfectly well, thank you.
Gabbard is a retard as are ALL politicians and most people are when it comes to speaking anything concerning 9/11.
She was waxing eloquent till she failed to understand that the CIA is Al-Qaeda, and is our #1 enemy (along with the Bankers) and working with MI6 and the Saudi's started "The War on Terror" via 9/11, which has now put the country into a "surveillance Sate".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdP95oSoOFk
She knows. You got to pick your battles. I'm glad there is someone in that cesspool willing to speak out on what everyone already knows but is afraid to.
When Obama was asked which foreign leader was his favorite and “most trusted,” Obama said, “Erdogan.”
Is it any wonder that Hitler’s Mein Kampf is the number one selling book in Turkey?
Not the U.S.
Uh-huh.
Virginia Senator: "Saudi Arabia And Turkey Are The Greatest Threats To World Peace"
usa's presidency and oligarchs and jewish warmongers not? nudelmann and mccain definitely deserve a noble prize
MASTER OF UNIVERSE: "United States of America & European Union are Greatest Threats to World Peace & every living human being on the planet Earth."
Up yours, America.
Listen up Bibi and Ziocons... I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
Bibi, Likudniks and Ziocons, you are pathologically deluded, if you think that it is not Iran, but KSA that is your real threat. The Saudis and its cancerous ideological disease that is Wahhabism, is your TRUE existential in the long run. When all moderate and secular ME countries around Israel are gone, then so too will Israel.
At best, you can hope that in an Iranian-Saudi war, the Iranians do the dirty work for you and take out the Saudis. Iran would then retreat and worry about itself (as they have before, ever since Alexander The Great kicked their ass). To restore peace, the US and an Islamic 'Coalition' could take over Saudi oil fields, pipelines and refineries -- or what's left of them -- and manage it "FBO the Saudi People". Like they have done the same in Iraq. Nudge, nudge, wink, wink.
And finally, short of nuking Mecca and Medina off the face of the earth, everyone would be better off, if we get the Jordanians to administer those two cities, and keep the residual Wahhabi nutjobs at bay.
Then, when all the dust has settled, the Palestinians can be relocated from Gaza and West Bank, and given a chunk of SA. Let the Saudis worry about them then.
*Hasbara detected alert*
We have detected a force 2 hasbara-rat "Kirk2NCC1701" who 'hates' the current zionists and wants to nuke mecca and move the Palestinians from their lands to some desert shithole jew-turk controlled territory.
Why would you want to cut off the islamic holy sites that bring in so much money for the jews, jew rat?
Hes only half right, saudi arabia and turkey would be nothing without the US support.
Hes only half right, saudi arabia and turkey would be nothing without the US support.
the senator forgot the country of Langley