What Bernie And The Donald Portend

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Submitted by Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org,

Three weeks out from the Iowa caucuses, and clarity emerges.

Hillary Clinton, the likely Democratic nominee, is in trouble.

Polls show her slightly ahead of socialist Bernie Sanders in Iowa, but narrowly behind in New Hampshire. And the weekend brought new revelations about yet more classified and secret documents sent over her private email server when she was secretary of state.

Between now and November, she will be traversing a minefield, with detonations to be decided upon by FBI investigators who may not cherish Clinton and might like to appear in the history books.

Clinton’s charge about Donald Trump’s alleged “penchant for sexism” brought a counterstrike – her being the “enabler” of Bill Clinton’s long career as a sexual predator – that rendered her mute.

But with Hillary Clinton having raised the subject, it is almost certain to be reintroduced in the fall, if she is the nominee.

Then there is the newly recognized reality that Clinton, who ran a terrific comeback race against Barack Obama in 2008, is not the candidate she was. Nor is Bill the imposing surrogate he once was.

Both are eight years older, and show it. “Low energy” nails it.

Lastly, Hillary Clinton now has a record to defend as secretary of state, a four-year term in which it is hard to see, looking back, a success.

Moreover, a defeat by Sanders in Iowa or New Hampshire could prove unraveling, with the press herd tapping out early obits.

New Hampshire has consequences.

A Granite State defeat by Sen. Estes Kefauver ended Harry Truman’s bid for re-election in 1952. Lyndon Johnson’s narrow write-in victory over Sen. Eugene McCarthy, 49-42, brought Bobby Kennedy into the race – and LBJ’s withdrawal two weeks later.

George H. W. Bush’s unimpressive New Hampshire win in 1992 brought Ross Perot in as a third-party candidate two days later, and Bob Dole’s loss in 1996 portended defeat in the general election.

But if a cloud is forming over the Clinton campaign, the sun continues to shine on The Donald.

Last July, in a column, “Could Trump Win?” this writer argued that if Trump held his then 20 percent share, he would make the final four and almost surely be in the finals in the GOP nomination race.

Now, in every national and state poll save Iowa, Trump runs first with more than 30 percent, sometimes touching 40. And, save in New Hampshire, Sen. Ted Cruz runs second to Trump.

What does the surge for socialist Sanders and the Republican base’s backing of the outsiders Trump and Cruz and collective recoil from the Republican establishment candidates tell us?

“The times they are a changing,” sang Bob Dylan in 1964.

Dylan was right about the social, cultural and moral revolution that would hit with Category 5 force when the boomers arrived on campuses that same year.

A concomitant conservative revolution would dethrone the GOP establishment of Govs. Nelson Rockefeller, George Romney and William Scranton in 1964, and nominate Barry Goldwater.

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Something like that is afoot again. Only, this time, the GOP has a far better shot of capturing the White House than in 1964 or, indeed, than it appeared to have at this point in 1980, The Year of Reagan.

In June 1964, Goldwater, about to be nominated, was 59 points behind LBJ, 77-18, in the Gallup Poll. On Sept. 1, he was still 36 points behind, 65-29. In mid-October, Barry was still 36 points behind, when some of us concluded that Mr. Conservative just might not make it.

Yet, in January and February of 1980, Ronald Reagan, during the Iowa Caucuses and New Hampshire Primary, never got closer than 25 points behind President Jimmy Carter, who led Reagan, on March 1, 58-33. Yet, that November, 1980, Reagan won a 44-state landslide.

Today, according to a new Fox Poll, Trump would beat Clinton by 3 points in the general election, if held now. Another poll shows Trump pulling 20 percent of the Democratic vote.

What this suggests is that nominating Trump is by no means a guarantee of GOP defeat. But beyond politics, what do the successes of Sanders, Trump and Cruz portend?

Well, Sanders and Trump both opposed the war in Iraq that the Bush Republicans and Clinton Democrats supported.

Both Sanders and Trump oppose NAFTA and MFN for China and the free-trade deals that Clinton Democrats and Bush Republicans backed, which have cost us thousands of lost factories, millions of lost jobs and four decades of lost wage increases for Middle America.

Trump has taken the toughest line on the invasion across the U.S.-Mexican border and against Muslim refugees entering unvetted.

Immigration, securing the border, fair trade – Trump’s issues are the issues of 2016.

If a Trump-Clinton race came down to the Keystone State of Pennsylvania, and Trump was for backing our men in blue, gun rights, securing America’s borders, no more NAFTAs and a foreign policy that defends America first, who would you bet on?

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Wed, 01/13/2016 - 06:03 | 7039237 Refuse-Resist
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It's the thought that counts.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:03 | 7037422 besnook
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the reason there are so many republican candidates hanging on to their campaigns despite no interest by the electorate is because the republican party's new rules say that a candidate must win 8 states with more than 50% of the vote before his nomination can be accepted.

cruz is a zionazi canadian. i don't know why he is included at all. he is not an outsider.

trump is against the mideast debacle therefore anti israel. don't forget that.

democrats are beginning to remember the democrats stood for the middle class tooth and nail. bernie is that paleodemocrat.

this is going to be the most interesting election since 1968. there will be dead bodies and new leaders everywhere.

the cunt doesn't have chance.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:10 | 7037454 GhostOfDiogenes
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Bullshit.

There is no other candidate more in love with israel, than donald trumpf.

Get off the drugs son.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:22 | 7037507 Socratic Dog
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Trump publicly called out Israel on funding ISIS.  The lack of reporting of his words was, I suppose, to be expected.

But it does put him in an interesting light.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:37 | 7037586 sgt_doom
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I haven't heard that from him, but I did HEAR HIM, specifically, state that America should stop funding terrorists --- something I agree with wholeheartedly.

The joint Saudi-American (banksters) agenda to destroy all non-Sunnis in the Middle East is abhorrent to sane people everywhere!

We know that when Hillary was in the White House with hubby, his administration was financing the Taliban (and by extension, al Qaeda) through the CIA and Unocal.

 

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 06:09 | 7039241 Refuse-Resist
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You can always spot a shitlib. They say things about Trump that he never actually said. Why? Because they're parroting the propaganda they heard from NPR, or read on HUFFPO, or watched on MSNBC.

Most of them have never bothered to actually watch a Trump speech. They just swallow whatever they're told he said. Such gems as "Trump hates women:", :"Trump hates Mexicans" and "Trump hates Muslims". 

 

Those three things have been said to me regarding Trump, by Bernie/Hillary supporters. Having watched numerous Trump rallies, I haven't heard him say anything of that sort.

He does seem to want America to be a country for Americans, and for that sin, the SJWs cannot accept him. They want a world of diversity, free of white privilege and free of patriarchical control.

A world that looks like Sweden.

I say fuck that.  And fuck anyody who wants to make this country look like Sweden.  Women in charge, leading the charge of cuckholdry, free shit, and of course, white genocide.

 

FUCK.

THAT.

SHIT.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 19:02 | 7037693 GeezerGeek
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"this is going to be the most interesting election since 1968". Does that mean we get to see mayhem in Chicago? I guess some thihgs never change.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 20:14 | 7037943 Clowns on Acid
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No ... it will be NYC this time around. The illegals will storm Trump's buildings. Gonna be fun seeing them get swatted around.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:12 | 7037461 JohnGaltsChild
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So, what's chances of Michelle Obama getting molested by her guest tonight?

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:27 | 7037542 JusticeTBuford
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He's packing, uh, wait.. she's packing. 

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 20:28 | 7038007 Who was that ma...
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Nowhere near as high as she hopes.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:13 | 7037470 RedDwarf
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I've always thought this, but a new poll shows that 20% of democrats will vote Trump if Hillary wins the nomination.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2016-01-08/new-poll-shows-donald-...

TPTB like Hillary and she'll likely win the nomination, but she's dead in the water.  She gets the pro-war pro-big government pro-establishment Left.  She's basically a Democratic NeoCon.  The rest of the Left stay home or vote Trump.  Assuming she can even focus on her campaign with all the trails and investigations coming her way.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:16 | 7037479 Niall Of The Ni...
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Hillary needn't worry. She is the banksters' girl. She's still the odds-on favourite to win.

Trump's chance is one in eight, if that. And that chance is for him to get a fraud-proof majority---15 points minimum. A photo-finish won't cut it.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:33 | 7037568 Clowns on Acid
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Yo Niall... you are wayyy behind tyhe knowledge here. Trump has surged at the bookies. he is now 4/1.... all the way from 10/1 6 months ago. Hillary is now at Even money down from 1/8 6 months ago.

Stay current or STFU and learn.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:38 | 7037590 sgt_doom
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I concur, plus the Super Bowl participants will be the Panthers and the Patriots!

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 20:13 | 7037939 Clowns on Acid
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Sarge - Don't think that the Pats have it this year. No running backs, or deep threat wide receivers. Carolina... oh yeh... they be SB champs. Best defense and Cam Newton is having his one year in the sun.

AFL = Chiefs or Denver.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:51 | 7037659 PoliceThePolice
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What does his odds at the bookies have to do with his actual chance of winning? As a reformed gambler, I can say there is very little correlation with the bookies number and his actual number.

 

Personally I think he has a very good shot at winning, better than the 4/1 line IMO. I will take anything over that fucking troll Hillary!

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 20:11 | 7037935 Clowns on Acid
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"As a reformed gambler, I can say there is very little correlation with the bookies number and his actual number.". Dude...good on ya that you got that gambling thing under control. Congrats.

However the fact that you didn't "win" at gambling just shows the bookies DO know what the probable ouitcome is ... its real money being laid down not just some "feelings" or telephone polls.

If Trump is better than at 4/1, as I do as well, (certainly liked him better at 60/1), go get some of your money back !

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 20:52 | 7038111 Niall Of The Ni...
Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:18 | 7037488 22winmag
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Do you really believe Trump will be there at the finish line?

 

My money says he pulls his schlong out of the race at the worst time and hands the White House to whoever else is left standing.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:24 | 7037520 Tasty Sandwich
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I didn't think he'd go past having to reveal financial information.

Maybe his campaign is actually just a new reality show that will premiere in January 2017.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:41 | 7037609 sgt_doom
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Well, there IS that Bush family magic.

Whenever a Bush shows up in China or Saudi Arabia, a hooker magically shows up outside their hotel room door!

And when George W. Bush went through ENLISTED basic training at Lackland AFB, while everyone else came out an enlisted person, Bush magically came out a second lieutenant!

And George H.W. Bush, during WWII, deserted his aircraft as flight commander, leaving several wounded to die in its crash, he was magically hailed a hero (with the help of his senator father).

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:50 | 7037656 johnnycanuck
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Clearly 'Fortunate Sons'.

 

HW's string pulling on behalf of the simpleton son GW has been documented and admitted by the guy who got the call and put in the word.

 

Apparently the guy who put in the word, to the right people in the US military,  found his conscience was bothering him some years later so he fessed up to some journalist. 

 

Whoda thunk that possible wut?

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:25 | 7037510 johnnycanuck
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Some interesting stuff from Cruz here in an article from a Middle Eastern news aggregate. Title of the article is..

US presidential candidates weigh in on Russia, Putin, Middle East

 

"Ted Cruz:

Texas Sen. Ted Cruz has called Putin a bully and a dictator, and said the United States can make a show of strength with its air power in Syria, aggressively expand missile defenses in Eastern Europe and promote human rights to push back Putin and deter a resurgent Russia.

“In Syria we can't double down on the failed strategies that have given Putin his opportunity to intervene,” Cruz wrote in a CNN commentary Oct. 9. “It is dangerous to dictators like Putin when Americans remember their exceptionalism. The unique combination of power and principle that has made the United States the greatest force for good on the planet has historically posed a grave threat to repressive bullies.”

 http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2016/01/us-president-candidates-russia-putin-middle-east.html#ixzz3x4ewvg5D Good read, I recommend it.  Oh and please don't blame us Canucks for Cruz. We didn't elect him to anything.
Tue, 01/12/2016 - 21:28 | 7038337 besnook
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cruz is a canadian zionazi. he would be more comfortable with steven harper.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:22 | 7037516 thisguyoverhere
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Back in 1996 there was the mysterious death of one "Mary Caitrin Mahoney" of "lesbian avenger" notoriety. The Clinton team brought Ms. Mahoney on staff, then she mysteriously quit and grabbed a job at Starbucks. Then she and three Starbucks employees, while frontdoor shut and locked, were mysteriously gunned down before closing up. Despite the street being well traficked, no gunshots were heard.

The crime was pegged on a petty criminal

Expose the Clinton Crimes

Story here:

http://www.judiciaryreport.com/bill_clintons_murdered_intern.htm

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:24 | 7037522 silverer
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Comes down to PA?  Well, if you shoved Philadelphia over the border, there would be no doubt at all.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:51 | 7037661 GeezerGeek
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Comes down to PA? You sexist pig, what about MA?

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:26 | 7037535 Chuckster
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I gave up voting for any of these people but Tom Cruz has never said anything I disagreed with.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:50 | 7037655 GeezerGeek
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Tom Cruz? Tom Cruise? Ted Cruz? Please clarify.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 20:01 | 7037906 pops
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Same thing.

 

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:27 | 7037543 WTFUD
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Hildebeast is keeping a real low profile; been advised to keep her fat ugly face away from the spotlight in the hope that the sheeples memory lasts as long as their next twatter tweet. No Hillary you scummy 2 cent fucking cunt you remain in the frame for war crimes and gross incompetence.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:48 | 7037644 GeezerGeek
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She may be hoping the sheeple's memory is no better than her own. Even in the 1990s as FLOTUS she had trouble remembering anything. I think she set a record for usage of "I don't recall." I'd add some derogatory adjectives describing her, but yours say it all.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 19:11 | 7037732 Faeriedust
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Language, sir, LANGUAGE.  It is possible to criticize Mrs. Clinton without resorting to ignorant, sexist profanity.  I agree that she is a poor choice for POTUS.  But you, sir, need to work on your skills at civil and public debate.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 20:41 | 7038061 The Wedge
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I'm much more offended by your mealy mouthed quackery. And how dare you devalue all that she has achieved. She has earned the moniker of Supreme Cunt.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 21:26 | 7038321 besnook
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poor baby needs a binky. the sooner you realize you have to treat the people who treat you with no respect with an elevated response with less respect you'll realize that is the only way to deal with this scum. calling her a cunt is gratuitous and insulting to real cunts.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:31 | 7037565 One World Mafia
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Cruz didn't bother to show for the most important vote of our time that took place today, Audit The Fed, that he was supposedly a staunch supporter of.

Not surprising from the fraud who voted to pass TPA and

...who isn't even eligible for POTUS

...who ran opposing the Patriot Act before voting for it.

...who was for illegal staying in 2013 but now wants them out.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:44 | 7037624 sgt_doom
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Of course not!  His wifey works for Goldman Sachs!

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 19:00 | 7037686 CitizenPete
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Agree with your observations. Cruz is the kind of politician that you count your fingers after you shake his hand. Libertarian my ass.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 19:59 | 7037901 pops
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Cruz is a flim-flam man to the core.  Butter wouldn't melt in his mouth.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:38 | 7037583 loveyajimbo
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Best $5 I ever spent... I am proud to help burn down this obese, lying, criminal traitor roach.

http://superstore.wnd.com/The-Hillary-Clinton-Investigative-Justice-Project

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:45 | 7037628 GeezerGeek
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It is illegal to use "Hillary Clinton" and "justice" in the same sentence. If she becomes POTUS watch the rate of arkancide rise dramatically.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:55 | 7037672 thisguyoverhere
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This is just one of many.

DC Dave was threatened for mentioning this one. According to Dave
he received a death threat for bringing up this story less than two weeks ago.

So the Clinton machine and cleanup crew are still large.

Expose the Clinton Crimes

Story here:

http://www.judiciaryreport.com/bill_clintons_murdered_intern.htm

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:42 | 7037614 sadBananas
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First post after lurking for fuck knows how long. I can't see how Hillary can't win, if she wants to be madam pres. That bitch knows where ALL the bodies are buried. I love Pat (in my own way) but the whole shit show is just that, a shit show.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 19:34 | 7037821 Bazza McKenzie
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The reason she knows where all the bodies are buried is because she buried them.  Knowing where they bodies are buried only works for you when someone else did the burying, not you.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 18:54 | 7037665 inosent
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So we have this article that says DT is up by a million points all over the place, commanding lead, huge gap between him and the next guy down ...

Why then, in the two most important states (IA, NH) is DT losing? "Oh but it is just *those* two states ..." uh huh

And I think the pro-israel claims about DT are overblown. Honestly, I am sure he totlally hates jews. Ever done business with a jew? on a 6, 7 figure deal? I have. Now translate that to tens of millions and you are dealing with the same dirt bags and their take no prisoner approach constantly (lie, cheat, slander), yeah, you are gonna hate on them. DT is running for president. It is a default line of crap everybody has to say (conventional politics 101) "I am all for israel".

But DT has said it often he supports Putin and doesn't mind if somebody else doesn't show up in that ME hell hole besides America's sons and $$. Frequently. DT is clear about America staying out of the ME, unless (so DT says) America actually *gets something out of it*, which of course we never do. The only obvious thing to gt out of it is ownership of all the oil over there. But what are the odds DT will just start a war to go on an oil grabbing binge? Very slim. It is just rhetoric that we wasted our blood and money in that dungheap.

DT wants to see ISIS destroyed and America out of the ME. If Putin can fix it, great, we can save our son's lives and redirect those resources to American soil. This is *exactly* what he has been saying. These positions are totally contrary to jew interests in the ME, as they need to continue to manipulate the uSa into blood and $$ to keep the israel ball rolling (yinnon project).

"Making America Great Again" is coded language for "No longer using America for jews and israel in the ME", as well as the more obvious, like redirecting manufacturing to the uSa.

I understand ZH has a lot of sneering cynics and fatalists, but cynicism and fatalism are inherently counter-productive. If instead of crying all day about the end of the world, you can get involved in a nationwide campaign to get people at the polls to make sure the voters don't get diebolded, or taking some action to get involved and be a part of your country.

The only thing worse than an evil POS in control are the ppl that sat on their hands and made that person come to power.

Expecting one person to 'fix' things is dumb. It takes all of us to do at least something, to be involved, to provide the massive support the ppl we choose to lead in this system so they can get things done.

DT is just one guy. Even if he gets elected, he'll get blamed for everything, and if RR is any example, congress and the jew media/bankers will tie his hands. That is why ppl have to get involved and be part of the action.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 19:32 | 7037814 Bazza McKenzie
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You appear to be making up your own facts. I recommend you try http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ and its running aggregation of polls as the best facts available on polling.

Trump has had a vast lead in New Hampshire for months.  He's on 30% and Rubio, the nearest is on 13% and that is how it has been for months.

In Iowa, Trump was in the lead and then lost it to Cruz by a few points, a bit like the puff up Carson had for a while.  Now Trump and Cruz are showing as neck on neck at 27% as Cruz has started to slip and Trump is picking up again from his already high position.  The nearest after those 2 is Rubio on 11%, around where he has been for months.

So your statement that Trump is losing in IA and NH is just flat out wrong.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 21:09 | 7038225 Raisuli
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Only one poll matters. The others are paid for by losers. We'll see who can afford the final one when the "polls" close.

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 20:36 | 7038040 The Wedge
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"Honestly, I am sure he totlally hates jews".

In some ways like Obama, people tend to project what they think a candidate stands for based on their own ideology.

 

Tue, 01/12/2016 - 21:19 | 7038292 besnook
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anyone who has ever done a deal with a jew only deals with them if they have to, not because they want to. they are way too much trouble. mind you this is more like the reason cabbies don't pick up black people. not all jews are bad in a deal but enough of them try to steal from you(they always say it is just business) that avoiding them is easier.

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