Inflation Expectations Collapse Post-Rate-Hike, Near Record Lows

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Since The Fed hiked rates in December, the market's inflation expectations have collapsed in yet another clear indication of "policy error." 5Y5Y Forward inflation swaps have crashed below 2.00% for only the 3rd time in history (Lehman 2008 and September's Fed Fold were the other two) as despite central banker promises of transitory low-flation, the money is being bet against them as the regime-shift from full-faith to no-faith in Fed support continues.

But a rate-hike was supposed to stimulate inflation?

 

This is near record low levels for forward inflation

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Wed, 01/13/2016 - 11:52 | 7040655 2ndamendment
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It's like 1 million Keynesians screamed out at once, and were silenced. 

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 11:54 | 7040677 knukles
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Means that long bonds are Cheap with a positive coupon .... negative rates will propagate across the world similar to illegal immigrants, for it is the will of TPTB

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:06 | 7040746 pods
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Can't wait. They will start giving away groceries before long.

/s

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:12 | 7040795 Bay of Pigs
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A small head of cauliflower in BC, Canada is now close to $10 bucks.

No inflation? About time to eat the big screens and Ipads.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 13:00 | 7041081 chubbar
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I don't know if this is a one off but my grocery store (hannafords) raised the price of chicken breasts from $1.99/lb to $2.90/lb 3 weeks ago. Pretty big jump, don't see that in everything but that stood out for me.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:18 | 7040837 two hoots
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And when we all accept them, we have reached our end.   (got the /s)

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:40 | 7040971 mtndds
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I still wont beleive we are in a correction until housing prices drop big time and unemployment shoots higher.  Until then its all TRANSITORY!!

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:08 | 7040770 1000 splendid suns
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I thought higher rates killz inflation, a la Volker's early 80's.

Rates were raised to maintain cred, nothing more.

They should only be raised to defend the dollar, which is currently the only smiling horse at the glue shop.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 11:55 | 7040684 Hitlery_4_Dictator
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I'll have to take issue with this.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 11:56 | 7040690 buzzsaw99
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If you ever go back into Wooly Swamp son you better not go at night
There's things out there in the middle of them woods
That'd make a strong man die from fright
There's things that crawl and things that fly
And things that creep around on the ground
And they say the ghost of Irving Fisher gets up and it walks around...

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:00 | 7040708 moonman
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Well the eagle's been flyin' slow
And the flag's been flyin' low
And a lot of people sayin' that America's fixin' to fall
Well speakin' just for me
And some people from Tennessee
We've got a thing or two to tell you all
This lady may have stumbled
But she ain't never fell
And if the Russians don't believe that 
They can all go straight to hell
We're gonna put her feet back
On the path of righteousness and then
God bless America again


Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:04 | 7040738 doctor10
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Ummm...whatever. 

 

The source of the problem would appear to be  a little closer to Tennesse than Moscow..

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:06 | 7040749 buzzsaw99
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Bernanke lived in the eccles building way back in the gurgling woods
And he never did do a lot of harm in the world
But he never did do no good
People didn't think too much of him
They all thought he acted funny
The old man didn't care about people anyway
All he cared about was his money
He'd stuff it all down in Mason jars and bury it all around
But on certain nights if the moon was right
He'd dig it up out of the ground
He'd pour it all out on the floor of his shack
And run his fingers through it
 Ben Bernanke was a greedy old man
And that's all there ever was to it

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:11 | 7040792 Wulfkind
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I feel a tragic like I'm Marlon Brando
When I look at my China Girl
And I could pretend that nothing really meant too much
When I look at my China Girl

I stumble into town, just like a sacred cow
Visions of swastikas in my head
Plans for everyone
It's in the whites of my eyes

My little China Girl you shouldn't mess with me
I'll ruin everything you are

Y'know, I'll give you television I'll give you eyes of blue
I'll give you a man who wants to rule the world

 

Jeffrey Immelt - China Girl

......as performed by David Bowie

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 13:03 | 7041089 Consuelo
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Why is it when people quote snippets of 'China girl', they always leave out the best line...?

 

'Oh baby just Shut your Mouth...'

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 14:02 | 7041380 Hongcha
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One of the best songs ever written.  It's about Amerika, fascism, heroin and being bitten by the Yellow Fever ;)  Iggy Pop of all people wrote it.

Another complex song in the index - The Man Who Sold the World.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:02 | 7040711 RiverRoad
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The Fed was desperate; backed into a corner.  Been down to child's play for a while now....they think if they can say it's so, they can make it so.  That's clearly no longer happening.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:02 | 7040716 Dr. Engali
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The fact that the fed is raising rates when every other market signal is screaming deflation and all the other central bank of the world are cutting tells me they want this fucker to collapse. There's no other excuse for it.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:04 | 7040735 RiverRoad
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Worked in '38.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 13:04 | 7041095 chubbar
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Can anyone point to where that rate rise has manifested itself? The 10 year is still 2.15 or so. Just wondering if this is another one of those headfakes where they don't actually do what they say they are doing?

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 13:35 | 7041228 gatorengineer
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Try the 30yr mortgage rate posted at 3.86......this gave the banks an excuse to rape and pillage.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 13:34 | 7041220 gatorengineer
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Delfation is a Keynesian cum shot.....Other than big screen TVs, NOTHING Is coming down.  Alot of things SHOULD be comming down but due to Crony Capitalism the fix is in.  Gas in PA is $2.17 a gallon at $32 a barrel oil what should it be?  Buy an airline ticket, those havent come down a cent.  Still paying Freight fuel surcharges.... yep me too.  What you have is big business in collusion with the government and the fix is in.  Call it facism or corporatism.

At some point in the not too distance future the folks on mainstreet arent going to be able to afford food, which is SKYROCKETING.  That day is a fuck load closer than anyone thinks.

By raising rates a quarter the banks make a shitload more on loans and credit cards, while still borrowing at zero, as that wasnt a quarter percent interest kick that they passed on.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:03 | 7040734 BlueStreet
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But how can that be with all the jobs that are being created. 

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:10 | 7040777 atthelake
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To create inflation, do QE4 for the people. $10,000 - $100,000 should do it.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:48 | 7041023 Jack Buster
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At the lake....."QE 4 For the people......."

$100,000?????

 

divided by 320 million people?????

 

/scargasm

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 13:38 | 7041238 gatorengineer
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10k is 3.2T.....  far less than they gave to wallstreet.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:50 | 7041037 o r c k
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chopper dollars from the sky

       a thousand silver dollars high

       pm's in the am

       a silver lining nigh

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:14 | 7040811 two hoots
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"Inflation will return, and the Fed will speed up rate hikes, top forecaster says"  (MarketWatch)

 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/inflation-will-return-and-the-fed-will-...

Confused yet?

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:14 | 7040815 Youri Carma
Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:15 | 7040823 gmak
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Even the most ardent ZH'er surely does not believe that the FED thought the rate hike would increase inflation. Let's get real.  To increase rates, Liquidity has to be pulled from the market (before some of you start chanting Rewerse Repos - remember that they pull liquidity out of the market because the banks are required to buy back T-bills and whatever crap they 'sold' temporarily to the FED). If the amount of money in circulation drops, you cannot have inflation unless the production of the country drops faster.

 

This is the FED trying to jawbone the markets into letting it reload the gun so that they (the FED) can cut rates when the bad economic  news we all know is out there (except the MSM - "who could have seen this coming") comes crashing on the collective consciousness of the unwashed masses.

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:59 | 7041069 Consuelo
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All well & good, but 'cutting' rates (their actual rate rising hasn't even gotten off the launch pad), will give about a (2) week respite of 'positive sentiment' before the deflationary virus takes hold again, stronger than ever. 

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:21 | 7040842 conraddobler
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Quick another rate hike!

Mathew 7:16

You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 12:24 | 7040869 4 wheel drift
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the fed hiked rates due to the political theater so the muslim could claim.....

 

see...   my policies are working and the economy is so strong...the fed HAD to raise rates....

 

-LOL  oops...   market disagrees....  and btw...  never mind those 93 million plus, who....

"quit looking for jobs"  ya sure 5% unemployment... (NOT)

fucking eko-no-mists, the modern day vodoo priests to cover up the evil from the [political] sacerdots

Wed, 01/13/2016 - 13:08 | 7041110 gatorengineer
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I dont know about expecting, but after comming back from Costco over lunch I can tell you inflation is very very much alive and well.

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