Hillary's Lead Disintegrates: She Is Now Doing Worse Than In 2008, As Trump Surges
Just when Hillary Clinton thought her political fiascoes would be the worst of her ongoing troubles as she glides through the Democrat primaries, and then takes on Trump sure to find a Warren Buffett-funded victory, suddenly everything appears to have gone wrong in what is most important to the scandal-ridden former Secretary of State and presidential contender: her second - and final - campaign for president.
According to WaPo, if one compares where Clinton is now in the Real Clear Politics polling average, the 2016 picture and the 2008 picture aren't really all that similar; in fact suddenly the trapdoor beneath Hillary appears to have sprung open. "Nationally, she was doing much better in 2008 than she is right now, perhaps in part because the anti-Clinton vote in 2008 was still split between two people -- Barack Obama and John Edwards -- instead of just one. But that recent trend line, a function of two new national polls that were close after a bit of a lull, is not very good news."
Not surprisingly, Clinton is trailing badly in New Hampshire, which is the home turf of her main socialist opponent. In 2008,
What little silver lining exists, is that in Iowa, Hillary is running a little better than she did in 2008, although as seen on the chart below even here her lead has plunged recently. In 2008 it wasn't until the last week that she fell out of the lead. She eventually came in third.
The problem remains the national race, and what's worse, if the 2008 past is prologue and if Hillary's lead in Iowa evaporates and she loses, it may be the end for the former first lady: back then she lost three-quarters of her lead after the caucuses although she did gain some of it back after her win in New Hampshire.
And while these numbers can easily change, one person who is certain to capitalize on Hillary's sudden collapse is Donald Trump, who as we showed recently has become the bookmakers' favorite after trailing badly as recently as September, even as Trump's republican competitors drop like flies on their own, the most recent casualty being Ben Carson whose campaign is all but over following news from CNN that Carson's campaign finance chairman Dean Parker submitted his resignation.
Finally, moments ago the WSJ reported that Donald Trump has opened a double-digit lead over his next-closest Republican rival, less than three weeks before the first votes of the 2016 presidential race are cast, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.
A third of Republican primary voters in the nationwide survey said they favored Mr. Trump to be the GOP nominee, followed by Texas Sen. Ted Cruz at 20% support, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 13% and retired pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson at 12%.
In December, Mr. Trump had led the No. 2 candidate, Mr. Cruz, by 5 percentage points. In the new poll, his lead widened to 13 points.
And so what was considered humor by most pundits as recently as last summer is becoming an all too possible reality: president Trump?
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Really warming up to Trump every time the GOP tries to eliminate him
RNC hates trump, DNC hates Sanders .... it means something ... something like they're not owned by them.
Two brokered conventions where both party's national committee's go against the populist candidate would really set things off.
Not sure that's priced in ?
Hannity is a dumb ass. Even when I listened to conservative talk radio he was one of two people I couldn't stand.
The other being Michael Medved - a pompous shithead.
Gotta say I agree, Hannity is an idiot.
I flipped off the rock station onto the nuuuz because it went to commercial and it was Hannity talking about how "we need" to support Saudi Arabia cuz, Iran.
I'm like WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT...LET THEM KILL EACH OTHER...I DON'T CARE!!!
Almost crashed.
Thank God for rock stations ;-)
Hannity = Idiot, with no cognitive skills
Hannity = Useful idiot, cognitive dissonance
Vote ZH'ers!
All of the above ?
I'm goin useful, Establishment, idiot on that one.
Hannity was a paid Bush mouthpiece during post 911 & the 2004 elections. He is a paid media whore. Period.
Does it matter. Key word - IDIOT.
They still have Rock Stations ?
Stuck here in the boonies between Gainsville and Jackonville I can't find one worth listening to for very long.
Long vinyl, 8 track and CD's while they last.
Sould be able to get 100.5 out of G-ville, I get it between G-ville and Tally.
Its the newer stuff tho, I alternate ;-)
Yeah...the Nu-Metal and Alt-Rock is ok when there's nothing else.
But it's old school late 60's and 70's with a sprinkling of 80's for me.
Its all good, grew up with Led, Floyd, Skynard, Moody Blues...
The alt guys got their influences from them ;-)
The Who, Black Sabbath, Iron Butterfly, Moby Grape, Neil Young, Yes, Kansas, Rush, Canned Heat, Peter Frampton, Humble Pie, Deep Purple, Van Halen, The Ramones, Lou Reed, The Rolling Stones, Boston, Creem, Bachman Turner Overdrive, Molly Hatchett, Blackfoot, Aerosmith, Journey, Rick Derringer, Sammy Hagar, Montrose, Grateful Dead.......etc....etc.....
Good times.
I see we have a couple of EDM fans in the house for the obligatory downvotes.
Oh yeah, a little eye opener...lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNOOKOBh1Zo
YEAH !! Had forgotten that one. Same album that had "Sick as a Dog" and "Back In The Saddle"
I think Guns and Roses and Motley Crue owe them some royalties. LOL !
Sean, "We gotta stand with our ally BB and The Hexagram, Inc.", Hannity? That Hannity?
LOL. Don't listen to politics when you are in the car!
It is all fake controlled opposition. Limbaugh used to get close to telling how things really are but he has toned it down a lot. The "heart attack" in Hawaii was probably a message.
Hannity loves Neo Libs like Joe AIPAC Lieberman.
Stopped watching and/or listening to any of media, only alternative sources for me thank you very much. Thanks ZH and a handful of others where my filters are not clogged by BS.
Yea! Hannity and Medved really are intolerable.
I sort of feel sorry for Hannity, who is basically a simpleton, but Medved is a smart cookie and really should know better.
Ted Cruz gets his dick wet every night inside a Goldman Sachs whore. Need I say more.
Are you sure it's every night? I'd like to see her contract with Goldman.
Why do you think it's a she?
A "proven conservative" is anyone who is in lockstep with Israel and the neocon Zionist cultural Marxist agenda.
Of course, to be more correct it should really be:
"proven neo-conservative",
but to nail down the phrase to its real meaning:
"proven Trotskite"
Perhaps her backing of UFO disclosure did not produce quite the expected bounce.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-vows-to-investigate-...
Another sign of her desperation. Hillary would become a christian if she thought it would help her campaign
Now THAT would be fun...lol.
I can see her now in a Jeremiah Wright-type "church" tryin to swing the black liberation vote with her patented, white, mid-western, nasally "I don't feel no ways tard...I've come too fawrerer..." speech.
It would be absolutely priceless ;-)
I just youtubed that speech. You're a dick for making me search that out and listen to it!
lmao!
Can alien reptiles become Christians? That piece of shit Rev. John Hagee pimping Isri-hell's genocide of real Christians in Syria is another alien repile and fucktard.
Christians, Jews, & Muslims are ALL in the category of being 'deluded sheep' practically even more than than Democrats or Republicans...
I'm just trying to figure out what horrible travesty vs. the universe & nature I committed in a past life to have come back "in spirit" & live during these days... I'll continue to do my penance... But WTFF???
FFS ~ I was around here (ZH) in 2012 when everyone was wasting their time yammering back & forth about the next FED CHAIR... Almost unequivocally, amongst ZH readers, Larry Summers was the guy (& a great deal of digital nouns, verbs, & adjectives), were WASTED on that debate...
I casually stated, several times, that I thought YELLEN would get the job... I was met with downvotes, &, I swear to God, like, "Who"?
Anyway, fast #FOARWARD... This 'feels' like the same shit...
Who cares? Who would have fucking cared if 78% of the 'geniuses' back in 2012 were correct and Larry Fartstein Summers had been fucking you over for the past 4 years?
"I'm just trying to figure out what horrible travesty vs. the universe & nature I committed in a past life to have come back "in spirit" & live during these days... I'll continue to do my penance... But WTFF???" indeed
My small revision:
"I'm just trying to figure out what horrible travesty vs. the universe & nature I committed in a past life to have been born into this world & live during these days... I'll continue to do my penance... But WTFF???"
Of course, I have to stay postive, given the alternative, but still
She would have to try to be a decent non-corrupt human being first, tall order for her.
She should start speaking like a yenta.
hahaha, yeah, thats funny ... but its a win win, as most american christians are zionists who would start a nuclear holocaust in a heartbeat so Jesus can come back a day earlier
The "disclosure movement" was created and financed by the Rockefeller Globalists for the benefit of creating a new world religion to match their new world order and financial system.
If people buy into the "Space Aliens and Jesus are coming to help us stop thermonuclear war and save the planet" we deserve the New World Order that they give us...
I agree. I used to spend a lot of time in Sedona which now has been captured by the New Age movement. I have witnessed the cult of New Age and "our great space brothers" first hand. In addition to being annoying it is scary and peddles false information. There are real scientists studying real phenomena and I am not trying to be down on them for a minute but this is something else, it is a major movement of some kind.
This spookish doctor named Steeven Greer seems to be one the people in the middle of it. Real researchers struggle and experience character assasination etc., where this man who some refer to as "a grey hugger" (I think the term is hilarious) has the red carpet rolled out for him and a lot of money at his disposal.
The whole thing is really something to behold.
Is Greer still charging folks 2000 bucks to go out in the desert and chase little seed puffs and mayflies with flashlights?
Zer0head that is the dumbest explination I have ever heard... by a long shot. The only thing you missed was calling Bush a Reptilian Shape-shifter.
Nearly everything you think you know about the subject is driven by government propaganda.
The UFO Slides - Snowden Documents, The ET Cover Up, & Exposing the Truth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljC8iPn2m6Y
UFO Conspiracy Gambits Exposed - How the Propaganda Works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkHNOtv-sRM
I would highly recommend you read some Jacques Valee: computer scientist, astronomer, "ufologist". As well as the late John Keel: Freelance newspaper writer, mens magazine columnist and fortean researcher. Over 60 years of research between the two of them and they came to the same conclusion. They were the first to come to this conclusion and many serious scientists were to follow.
Also look into the research that went on at what is known as "the skinwalker ranch" owned now by Bigelow Aerospace. If you read any books by the scientists involved in that research you will see that they came to the same conclusion. The best book about that would probably be "Hunt for the Skinwalker: Science Confronts the Unexplained" by Colm A Kelleher a biochemist that was involved directly in Bigelow's research there.
LoanWe 'Blue Beamed' some folks.
you will get something alot worse then Kerry -- elizabeth warren... she is waiting for the glass slipper.
On the R side they are making another attempt for Jeb, if I were trump I would have a food taster, Cruz is done with the goldman money, carson never was and Rubio has been outed as a RINO.
No, Scooby, we can't do that.
I love the imagery, and one of the ways you know we have not yet descended into third-world farce in this country is we do not put members of the previous administration in jail for their official acts. It would have to be ex officio, like a bribe or conspiracy or slam dunk treason for something he did in secret that nobody knew about until after he left office.
History will perp walk him, just be patient.
For you Scooby, I am going to write this in a shout your dog ears might hear.
THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY THAT ZIONIST TRAMP WOULD INDICT ZIONIST HITLERY OR THE DISTRICT OF CRIMINALS, D.C.
YOU LIVE IN A CARTOON WORLD, AND THAT IS THE RUIN OF THE USA AND THE WORLD.
NOW, FETCH! RUN AFTER ANOTHER BONE...
That's so 2008. Remember how Obama was asked to go after Bush / Cheney for war crimes? LMAO.
The Prez can do what he wants, no one's coming after him.
H has never been successful at anything she's done in her whole career. Even launching attacks and hiding evidence didn't get her ahead. I guess it pays to play fair, as we are learning.
IMHO, I don't really think Bill wants her to be president. He's arguably the most beloved president in recent memory and he prefers to lock his legacy like that, and keep his indescretions out of the spotlight. If she was ever elected, he would have a microscope up his ass all the time with the paparazzi. The Patron Saint of Grab Ass surely doesn't want that.
Add to that, any male who votes for her will have to admit women are better than they are. Which is something I'm not sure many will do in the secrecy of the voting booth.
Finally, that H logo with the Red arrow now reminds all of Bills semi-hard dick. You can't make this up.
William Jefferson Clinton: America's Marcus Aurelius... the Last Good President.