Hillary's Lead Disintegrates: She Is Now Doing Worse Than In 2008, As Trump Surges

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Just when Hillary Clinton thought her political fiascoes would be the worst of her ongoing troubles as she glides through the Democrat primaries, and then takes on Trump sure to find a Warren Buffett-funded victory, suddenly everything appears to have gone wrong in what is most important to the scandal-ridden former Secretary of State and presidential contender: her second - and final - campaign for president.

According to WaPo, if one compares where Clinton is now in the Real Clear Politics polling average, the 2016 picture and the 2008 picture aren't really all that similar; in fact suddenly the trapdoor beneath Hillary appears to have sprung open. "Nationally, she was doing much better in 2008 than she is right now, perhaps in part because the anti-Clinton vote in 2008 was still split between two people -- Barack Obama and John Edwards -- instead of just one. But that recent trend line, a function of two new national polls that were close after a bit of a lull, is not very good news."

 

Not surprisingly, Clinton is trailing badly in New Hampshire, which is the home turf of her main socialist opponent. In 2008,

 

What little silver lining exists, is that in Iowa, Hillary is running a little better than she did in 2008, although as seen on the chart below even here her lead has plunged recently. In 2008 it wasn't until the last week that she fell out of the lead. She eventually came in third.

 

The problem remains the national race, and what's worse, if the 2008 past is prologue and if Hillary's lead in Iowa evaporates and she loses, it may be the end for the former first lady: back then she lost three-quarters of her lead after the caucuses although she did gain some of it back after her win in New Hampshire.

 

And while these numbers can easily change, one person who is certain to capitalize on Hillary's sudden collapse is Donald Trump, who as we showed recently has become the bookmakers' favorite after trailing badly as recently as September, even as Trump's republican competitors drop like flies on their own, the most recent casualty being Ben Carson whose campaign is all but over following news from CNN that Carson's campaign finance chairman Dean Parker submitted his resignation.

Finally, moments ago the WSJ reported that Donald Trump has opened a double-digit lead over his next-closest Republican rival, less than three weeks before the first votes of the 2016 presidential race are cast, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.

A third of Republican primary voters in the nationwide survey said they favored Mr. Trump to be the GOP nominee, followed by Texas Sen. Ted Cruz at 20% support, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 13% and retired pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson at 12%.

 

In December, Mr. Trump had led the No. 2 candidate, Mr. Cruz, by 5 percentage points. In the new poll, his lead widened to 13 points.

And so what was considered humor by most pundits as recently as last summer is becoming an all too possible reality: president Trump?

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Fri, 01/15/2016 - 01:18 | 7049355 Clowns on Acid
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All bullshiite. Now fuck off.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 07:12 | 7049703 Husk-Erzulie
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I guess Dear Leader's own words should come with a /sarc tag LOL

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:27 | 7048393 gossamer
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a dedication to Hillary and all of the CFR approved, Zionist backed candidates.......especially Hills and Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQUXuQ6Zd9w

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:42 | 7048673 V for ...
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Excellent. No surrender. Let them burn for their lies.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:33 | 7048414 Victory_Garden
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In the long run of words, deeds, and actions, criminals and corrupted people always fall into the sand foundations they build. The Hag falls to decades of crime and corruption(hopefully taking the entire ship of evil stooges and horrid clowns with her), the Trump rises on the tide of discontent. We are approaching dangerous waters. All hands on deck!

On the wall.

As of recent, this Heart has been a bit concerned about the way babylon has stolen an expression that was used here many moons ago and has gone so to say, viral as a term in describing the populations of the planet. The word of concern is, folks.

Often, Universe shares The Light of new thots, words, ideas, and terms of expression with those who listen to That Voice in the heart. It is meant for all, and not just a few. It is definitely NOT exclusive, and is very easy to Know if one is not too fogged out, or completely disillusioned by the materialities of a human experience.

In describing human beings, the term 'folks' has been used in the past as the descriptive term when referring to the masses of people out there. What has happened is, those who have no regard for humanity have adopted this homey term of expression from country people, and now uses it to describe human beings in a way that comes from a place of no-concern for humanity. It's no longer the kind warm country expression but rather, it is now a derogatory tool-word of babylon.

They have done this to further their evil purpose of dividing people and families, and for making people believe they are something less than, a human being. What was a country people slang word, has become a weaponized word of the bankster puppet sub-species commie/socialist/muslim clown class using the same old Cesarean methodology of, divide and conquer. Babylon wants to make people less human, rather than moar human.

Originally, the word “folks” was used to describe the One People we all are in a country way. It has now been used by the babylonians of the north to disassociate people from being what we all are. One World of, One People. ONE WORLD OF, HUMAN BEINGS.

HEY BABYLON!!!....you just don't go and kype the expressions that come from the Heart of God to further your agenda of degrading humanity. Whether you know it or not, ALL your divide and conquer agendas and corrupted political games of evil, are ONLY bringing people closer together. The paste and faces of evil are disgusting. EVERYONE KNOWS the difference between good, and evil. Every one is known by the fruit they bare, as is true with all fruiting trees in the garden. Everyone is KNOWN, by their words, deeds, and actions.

Everyone also Knows, we all have one thing in common, and they are ALL realizing this. They all love truth and goodness, rather than lies, deceptions, corruption, criminality, and the evil of hells' money-god babylon. We are ALL ONE Life Force after all. What affects one, will effect the all that is. All are one in our humanity, and ALL embrace that long standing tenant of People that is held as a higher value. Higher than babylon's dirty evil manipulative tool, the money-god. People do not want to fight woars for YOU BABYLONIANS, or your dammed to hell money-god any moar!

Remember always this inseparable truth. All people are one in physical and spiritual form. Only stupid ignorant no-knowledge from EXPERIENCE people, will make attempts to deviate from this absolute truth. Every biological life form on the planet shares the same basic four-elements make-up. All spirit is like all flames on earth. One. This is the Law of One as set forth, and well engraved into the Stone of Time. In this 3-d existence, in this aeon, this Law will NEVER, ever change.

NOW HEAR THIS: All Crew will now please forthwith use the proper term of 'People' when describing ALL human beings with souls. In small groups or large, or even in single form, ALL souls on board in a human form are Spiritual beings having a human experience. ALL are now to always be classed as, People. Not the lesser term of folks, but PEOPLE! There are no folks among you. ALL ARE ONE PEOPLE...ONE WORLD! Let not division...be a dis-ease that kills you.

Further out: it is known that people can and will act like lizards to which we all say...HEY BABYLONIAN!!...stop acting like a lizard.

BE...the One you ALL are.

Let Love Guide.

So mote it be.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:44 | 7048684 V for ...
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Such a darling, Victory Garden. Thanks.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:46 | 7048431 V for ...
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Hitlery and Tramp are two sides of the zionist corrupt coin; two spoilt brats vying for election, both pledged to Israel first, and both would not defend the Constitution, and Bill of Rights.  The world is appalled by the sight of that.

The USA is disgraced if it elects Hitlery or Tramp. The world is ruined by rootless zionists anyway. There's no point being in disgrace for that.

Do not vote for Hitlery or Tramp, the demoncraps or repugnants. Best to sit this one out, so the world can see that Americans do not like nazionist, bankster filth.

No sympathy for the devil, 'the man/woman of wealth and taste' who 'killed Jesus Christ, the Czars, the Kennedys.'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBecM3CQVD8

 

'Guess my name? What's puzzling you is the nature of my game.'

It is Lucifer 'in need of some restraint...you have all learned politics...'.

Get ready. The puppeteers are more wicked than you could ever imagine. ' Pleased to meet you...'.

The Rolling Stones, favourite band of the City of London Rothschilds, the ruin of the world.  Hiding in plain sight...

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:55 | 7048507 Victory_Garden
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Bingo, V.

At the end of the day, it comes down to one of two things. You serve the master of the flesh and material world, or you serve the Master of the Spirit. One can ONLY serve one or the other, and each carries its true rewards.(lower vibrational souls need many lifetimes to learn this)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOK0v2QYy9Y

 

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:11 | 7048960 V for ...
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Your link to the Bob Dylan video is no longer 'available'. Oh, well. Point taken. Musicians are a family. Politicians are not.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:10 | 7048574 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Been asking this for years. Who are the Troubadours that got killed before they reached Bombay?, all the other references are readily identifiable - what are they talking about?

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:48 | 7048693 V for ...
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They are the King/Queen's court of singers; the echo rather like the main scream media today. See a record number of journos killed in recent times, for example.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 21:18 | 7048797 tarabel
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Gandhi

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 21:30 | 7048841 JamaicaJim
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Correct. Him and his band of forward thinkers.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 21:31 | 7048844 besnook
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given the context i think it is a reference to the brutality of the british empire in the last days of the nonviolent indians'(ghandi) quest for freedom.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:05 | 7048952 V for ...
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All the King's men, and all he Queen's horses...

The troubador sings for all of that.  Gandhi and Mandela were no different. In their end, you remember them and the Crown lives on. See how that works?

 

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:48 | 7049077 tarabel
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Not really, no.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:37 | 7048437 indaknow
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Can't wait to hear....Hillary you're fired. Along with the rest of the career criminals

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:58 | 7048511 V for ...
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Ridiculous. Tramp lives off debt, and puts Israel first. Tramp is a charlatan, a serial bankrupt by his companies, no different than the rest of the District of Criminal career politicians, except he has more debt than most of them do, as they do insider trading and live in rabbit hutches.

With everything stacked in their favor, they can't even get their trades right. Fucking morons.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:39 | 7048444 Jstanley011
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Shucks. I was hoping Bill would make history as the first male First Lady. He might even have gone public with his cross-dressing fetish, darn the luck.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:25 | 7048622 Umh
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A very Monty Python visual image that will empty your guts.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:46 | 7048458 nmewn
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lol...

Keene, New Hampshire (CNN)Bernie Sanders could break his pledge (Edit: Pledge? As in a promising type pledge or sorta kinda maybe not really type pledge?) to release details on how he would pay for his health care plan before the Iowa caucuses, according to a top aide.

His campaign released details Wednesday of how Sanders will pay his $1 trillion dollar infrastructure plan and his $75-billion-a-year plan to make public college and universities tuition-free. But...

(Edit: Theres always a but with a socialist isn't there?)...

"...noticeably absent was his plan to pay for Medicare for all, a price tag that some estimates put at $15 trillion."

(Edit: Ahem...wut?! $15 TRILLION!?)

"Jeff Weaver, Sanders' campaign manager, isn't saying when those numbers will be released.

"I don't have a date for that," he said earlier this week. "Not necessarily before the caucuses."

lol...no doubt, just fuck moar people in the ass as you work your way through whateverthefuck unicorns & rainbow promises thingy you were counting on, no problem, sounds like a great plan...lmao!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/13/politics/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-he...

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:51 | 7048489 V for ...
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Jew Sanders won't even admit his own background. Neither does John Cohen (Kerry) or Tramp (Drumpf). Why would America trust them? Ridiculous, isn't it.

The Internationale, the socialists/communists/Demoncraps  bow down to the Rothschild led City of London, as do the Repugnant Party.

Defend the Constitution. Keep the guns.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:18 | 7048604 MedTechEntrepreneur
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Fuck off David Duke wannabe

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:59 | 7048708 V for ...
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Med tech entrepreneur...no such thing at the moment. My father ran a multinational pharmaceutical company, and taught me critical analysis of which you have none.  People like you fake, and take. You make nothing of worth. You scam, Frankenstein's monster, raising money from dupes in the City.

You get no money from me. You are bust except for those credulous enough to believe your claims. The point of medicine is to make people well. You haven't done that, have you, schlemiel.

Who is David Duke? Explain.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 21:30 | 7048840 Bazza McKenzie
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Despite claiming to have been taught "critical analysis", you offer no analysis in any of your posts, just abuse of other people.

You seem to have got the "critical" part down pat, just not the analytical bit.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:23 | 7048999 jomama
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Daddy ran a drug company? The only critical analysis needed there is which politicians to bribe to enfore more meds for the proles. Can't bullshit me on that one, I've worked on the floor of that sector for decades.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:56 | 7048513 SmedleyButlersGhost
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I admire your patience to analyse this shit. I just see the headline, think we're fuked and move on. Let me know when I need to focus

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:05 | 7048542 V for ...
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'War Is A Racket' (1935), Smedley Butler, America's most decorated soldier, two time recipent of the Medal of Honor.

That is all we really need to know ;-)

Let the liars burn.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:07 | 7048563 SmedleyButlersGhost
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Probably best they don't hand that one out to us

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:47 | 7048478 jack stephan
Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:50 | 7048491 dojufitz
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When El Combo wins - he will do it his way.

No one is funding him so he doesn't have to please any pressure groups....he won't take any prisoners.....

He is going to piss off the big boys who run the joint......

I think he will most likely end up dead during his first term.....

Tragic plane crash.....?

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:53 | 7048501 V for ...
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Ridiculous. Tramp has more bankrupt companies than solvent ones. He is a belligerent bully boy, beholden to money lenders, but most Americans are so very indebted that they would think a $2 note was real. Ridiculous.

Tramp puts Israel first. He is just another traitor.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:05 | 7048552 Umh
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Two dollar notes are real. I haven't seen one in a while they were rare in the 60's & 70's. I have no idea when the quit printing them.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:43 | 7048678 BeerMe
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They still print them.  I see them quite often.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 00:18 | 7049275 inosent
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I happen to have one right in the very desk my keyboard rests upon

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 19:55 | 7048508 Moccasin
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Hillary should be in jail. The presidential campaign is a choice of the lesser of evils and who will keep the empire afloat longer than the other. Let's just face the facts, all the candidates suck, our democracy is a charade and none of the candidates are capable or will improve anything. Trump 'the great deal maker', several times bankrupted, xenophobic asshole, is just another Anglo-Zionist shill who will sell you and your mother down the road for a nickel. The empire is end stage, perpetual war, permanent debt and fascist, just the facts.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:01 | 7048530 V for ...
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True.

All we honest people can do is stay home with our own. Trade honestly.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:04 | 7048548 SmedleyButlersGhost
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I'm voting for Caligula's horse. At least he knows what he is.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:08 | 7048567 V for ...
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Woa! Made me chuckle...

Ah. 'If we can laugh at ourselves, we will never fail to be amused.'

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 05:04 | 7049565 Jstanley011
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Rolling on laugh, flooring.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 21:13 | 7048772 silverer
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I think most ZH'ers know the prognosis.  I just want somebody that won't make me feel so crappy as the US sinks.  Even the Titanic had a band playing.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:06 | 7048541 Umh
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Is she a stalking horse? A well paid stalking horse.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:13 | 7048575 V for ...
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She is a nasty little bitch, a warmonger, and moneychanger's whore, with a record number of dead bodies behind her including Vince Foster.

Tramp will be the same, and shame the USA further. Remember: he has a very dark past. Why does anyone think he would change? It is ridiculous, this left right zionist vs islamist paradigm.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:16 | 7048595 MedTechEntrepreneur
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Dear Hillary ---  Vince Foster yourself.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:22 | 7048610 Anunnaki
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Make Hellary release her physical results. She has MS

That's the R's October Surprise

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:28 | 7048621 JohnGaltsChild
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Hillary and Trump are both ruthless, evil people. 

Their strongest convictions are that they are superior to and better than everyone else.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:56 | 7048679 Baby Eating Dingo22
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                                                                                          BERNIE

Sat, 01/16/2016 - 11:55 | 7055212 thebigunit
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<-- "modern" nineteenth century Fabian socialist

<-- primitive 10,000 BC tribalist

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:47 | 7048695 thebigunit
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Well, in Trump's case, he's probably right.

Their strongest convictions are that they are superior to and better than everyone else.

Take you, for example.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:37 | 7048725 JohnGaltsChild
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You neglected to add, "na nana na na" and

"my dad can beat up your dad."

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