Hillary's Lead Disintegrates: She Is Now Doing Worse Than In 2008, As Trump Surges

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Just when Hillary Clinton thought her political fiascoes would be the worst of her ongoing troubles as she glides through the Democrat primaries, and then takes on Trump sure to find a Warren Buffett-funded victory, suddenly everything appears to have gone wrong in what is most important to the scandal-ridden former Secretary of State and presidential contender: her second - and final - campaign for president.

According to WaPo, if one compares where Clinton is now in the Real Clear Politics polling average, the 2016 picture and the 2008 picture aren't really all that similar; in fact suddenly the trapdoor beneath Hillary appears to have sprung open. "Nationally, she was doing much better in 2008 than she is right now, perhaps in part because the anti-Clinton vote in 2008 was still split between two people -- Barack Obama and John Edwards -- instead of just one. But that recent trend line, a function of two new national polls that were close after a bit of a lull, is not very good news."

 

Not surprisingly, Clinton is trailing badly in New Hampshire, which is the home turf of her main socialist opponent. In 2008,

 

What little silver lining exists, is that in Iowa, Hillary is running a little better than she did in 2008, although as seen on the chart below even here her lead has plunged recently. In 2008 it wasn't until the last week that she fell out of the lead. She eventually came in third.

 

The problem remains the national race, and what's worse, if the 2008 past is prologue and if Hillary's lead in Iowa evaporates and she loses, it may be the end for the former first lady: back then she lost three-quarters of her lead after the caucuses although she did gain some of it back after her win in New Hampshire.

 

And while these numbers can easily change, one person who is certain to capitalize on Hillary's sudden collapse is Donald Trump, who as we showed recently has become the bookmakers' favorite after trailing badly as recently as September, even as Trump's republican competitors drop like flies on their own, the most recent casualty being Ben Carson whose campaign is all but over following news from CNN that Carson's campaign finance chairman Dean Parker submitted his resignation.

Finally, moments ago the WSJ reported that Donald Trump has opened a double-digit lead over his next-closest Republican rival, less than three weeks before the first votes of the 2016 presidential race are cast, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.

A third of Republican primary voters in the nationwide survey said they favored Mr. Trump to be the GOP nominee, followed by Texas Sen. Ted Cruz at 20% support, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 13% and retired pediatric neurosurgeon Ben Carson at 12%.

 

In December, Mr. Trump had led the No. 2 candidate, Mr. Cruz, by 5 percentage points. In the new poll, his lead widened to 13 points.

And so what was considered humor by most pundits as recently as last summer is becoming an all too possible reality: president Trump?

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Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:12 | 7048969 I Write Code
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Say the Hildabeast collapses, then what?  I cannot imagine the party would nominate Sanders, especially after that nasty nailgun accident.  So, who's Biden their time?  Or maybe Jeb! will cross over.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:41 | 7049044 truthalwayswinsout
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There is no entertainment value in politics anymore. I mean I long for the good ole days when Adolph. Benito, and Julius had campaigns to run. They at least killed lots of people. Hitlary is getting a good list to her credit but does not hold a candle. 

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:41 | 7049046 truthalwayswinsout
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There is no entertainment value in politics anymore. I mean I long for the good ole days when Adolph. Benito, and Julius had campaigns to run. They at least killed lots of people. Hitlary is getting a good list to her credit but does not hold a candle. 

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:42 | 7049050 V for ...
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Seriously, ask yourself. What have these bitches and bastids done for you lately? It doesn't matter if it is Hitlery and her close friends, the Bush tribe or any other District of Criminals including the wannabe Tramp, Israel firster in his debt.

What have they done for you lately?

Nothing. They make war and money. That's it. That is their way. Fuck 'em. Don't vote.  Show them the contempt they deserve.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:42 | 7049051 truthalwayswinsout
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There is no entertainment value in politics anymore. I mean I long for the good ole days when Adolph. Benito, and Julius had campaigns to run. They at least killed lots of people. Hitlary is getting a good list to her credit but does not hold a candle. 

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:51 | 7049059 V for ...
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And what about the ban on burning witches? Outrageous PC ;-)

Really, the world has lost its sense of justice and humour...

(Put a comma before the word 'but' or I will have to add you to the bonfire too. Really, you modern grammar vandals should be told.)

;-D

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 00:35 | 7049307 Clowns on Acid
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V ... you have fallen off of your bicycle.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:45 | 7049056 truthalwayswinsout
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There is no entertainment value in politics anymore. I mean I long for the good ole days when Adolph. Benito, and Julius had campaigns to run. They at least killed lots of people. Hitlary is getting a good list to her credit but does not hold a candle. 

Sorry for the multiple posts; had computer problems.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:48 | 7049069 V for ...
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Slack Alice, isn't she. Must try harder in the meglomaniac moll stakes.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:55 | 7049098 V for ...
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Multiple posts are acceptable. Morons aren't ;-)

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:47 | 7049068 cherry picker
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The FDA decided yesterday
that music had its day
and regulation needs to sway
tunes to doctor’s way

It’s all in the mood the regulators say
and music had its day

The president chimed
music is no good for thee
as it fries brains
of our citizenry

The FDA decided yesterday
that music had its day

Its war congress roared
we cannot have soul aboard
music’s train
for it may rain

The FDA decided yesterday
that music had its day

They sent enforcers high and low
but music was nowhere to be heard
for it found a home
where freedom roamed

Music decided yesterday
it was here to stay…

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:52 | 7049087 FatTony7915726
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Since BENGHAZI, when I think of Hillary, I see her as a pure bitch!

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:55 | 7049095 Collapsed_Elast...
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When she dies I'm having a huge piss on the grave party.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 22:58 | 7049105 onmail1
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Okee it was the CIA and
<-- CabalA$$LickerObamma to blame

but ghosts of benghazi are gonna
haunt Hillary like anything

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 23:00 | 7049109 Bloodstock
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Obama ruined it for another democrap president this term. Trump is next up. Welcome to the cess pool Donald. Worse than you imagined. Good luck! 

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 23:06 | 7049128 o r c k
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Highlites from the Repub debate tonite:  General agreement that America should "head a Sunni invasion of Syria with 20 thousand American troops." WHY?? "To restore democracy in Syria"!! (Bush quote) and not a joke. Also, "Peace Through Strength" (rebuild our military), Also: Assad must go because he gasses his own people and has killed a quarter milliuon. And WHY (also) must he go? Because Saudi Arabia demands it. (another not a joke). An all-American recipe for World War. 

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 23:21 | 7049147 V for ...
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Bollox, isn't it.

Anyone who votes for that is an idiot. The Founding Fathers made a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy which is rule by morons.

The Demoncraps and Repugnant money whores undermine the Constitution, and bend over to be fucked by the Rothschild-led City of London, and its pretty lil bankrupt whores: Golem Sacks and JP Morgue.

End the Fed, and its uglier parents: the BoE and BIS.

Trade on. Beware of the morons, and their loan sharks.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 00:27 | 7049290 rejected
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"Anyone who votes for that is an idiot"

Anyone who votes is an idiot.

Fixed it.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 23:22 | 7049154 2bit Hoarder
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I am too old to be idealistic anymore.  I don't give a shit about you or anybody else.  I just want whoever will steal less of my paycheck and leave me the fuck alone.  I no longer have any sympathy or empathy for anyone that doesn't live in the same house as I do.  I don't expect any of you to feed me, and if you starve to death, sucks to be you.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 23:33 | 7049168 V for ...
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Spoken like George Soros, sugar daddy of the un-Democratic Party, and arch zionist, pet of the City of London.

Spoken like a typical voter, scammed and to be scammed again. Your problem is that you have run out of time and money.

.gov hates you, no matter how many times you vote for it.

Get off your knees.

Keep the Constitution. Keep the guns.

Oh. You won't. Why? Because you have lived on your knees and hate anyone who won't feed you. Keep voting for you. They hate you anyway.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 23:35 | 7049181 2bit Hoarder
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If this was an intentional reply to my comment, you need to smoke less weed.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 23:40 | 7049195 V for ...
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You need to mature instead of merely get old, hippy style angry that your failings have come to haunt you.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 23:59 | 7049233 2bit Hoarder
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Well at least I don't attempt to communicate purely by haiku.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 23:37 | 7049188 Dre4dwolf
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This Years election:

1) vote democrat , collapse the economy and probably Start wwIII

or

2) vote Trump , the economy will collapse a little slower and wwIII will start a little later and taxes MIGHT go down (for a while till WWIII starts).

 

Trump can not keep the collapse in the economy from happening, Obama ran up a TAB and the BILLS will come due (conventionality during the next presidency).

Obama gets to take the credit for buying dinner but conveniently runs away when the bill comes to the table, the next president has A LOT of RED to clear, without a doubt if republicans win the election they will take the heat for Obamas engineered economic collapse.

 

First thing the president must do is unwind the debt (discharge it by executive decree and declare a debt jubilee/financial reset ) so we can skip the PAY THE TAB cycle of the bubble bursting and just get to the next bubble (spending wave).

If that isn't done the bills will all come due and the president will be presented with a huge mess to cleanup later on.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 03:06 | 7049475 Victor999
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You still haven't woken up to the fact that it really doesn't matter who you vote into office, have you?  The country you imagine you have is not the country you have.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 23:54 | 7049224 yogibear
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Watch out poor slick Willy if Hillary loses. 

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 00:02 | 7049238 Bazza McKenzie
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I think he's actually worried about her winning.  Would you want to be the philandering husband when your wife has unlimited access to massive firepower, armies of black ops guys and control of really nasty extra-territorial rendition spots around the globe?

And he knows how truly nasty and vindictive she is.

Bill is much safer if she does not win.  That's why Bill will be voting for Trump.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 00:05 | 7049228 Jorgen
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Drudge Report has a poll on who won the GOP Debate. Donald Trump at 57% now. You can participate in the poll at this link: http://drudgereport.com/nowsc.htm

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 00:05 | 7049248 gm_general
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I wonder if the elite oligarchs are peeing in their pants at the thought of a Trump-Sanders race in the end. If neither could be bought off and the public would not stand for the old switcheroo via super delegates to the CFR flunkies, they would probably be in a lose-lose situation, provided neither would not attach themselves to CFR handlers like W did. The only answer at that point is the old airplane 'accident' or some false flag assassination before the race ends.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 03:04 | 7049470 Victor999
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The Deep State is like a steel ball.  You can paint it any colour - red...blue...Trump...Bernie....- but it still remains what it is - an indestructible steel ball.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 00:11 | 7049258 JD59
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Hillary for PRISON 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 00:27 | 7049293 Which way to th...
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What is the difference between Hillary and the Titanic? Only 1900 went down on the Titanic.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 03:01 | 7049468 Victor999
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Fair is fair - she went down on them as well.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 00:41 | 7049305 Joe Sixpack
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Trump, Clinton, Lawrence Krauss, Jeffrey Epstein and Copernicus in 2016

If someone started a joke with the line “Donald Trump, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Jeffrey Epstein and Nicolaus Copernicus walk into a bar…”, most people would raise an eyebrow. What the heck ties this cast of charactrers together?

#Copernicusgate

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 00:36 | 7049308 Which way to th...
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Re Collapsed Elast...

When she dies I'm having a huge piss on the grave party. I would join you but I hate lineups.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 01:08 | 7049340 Collapsed_Elast...
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Yes, but we would have a marvelous time in the queue. Cheers.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 00:56 | 7049323 KuriousKat
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Aside from knowingly backing Alqaeda against Ghadaffi and laughing as he was bayoneted up the Gazoo..she knowingly allowed thousands af Africans to be imprisoned, tortured and executed ..summarily..who had  worked in libyas oil and other inrstructure unlike the AQ armed and assisted and protected by Nato..and why libya is now a failed state..I hope someone presses warcrimes as a fed indictment just aint enough for the people behind this, with Hillary and Humas Muslim botherhood connections playing such a prominent role, not merely in the Benghazi fiasco, which if exposed would have ruined the Potus re election inNovember..

 

 

(THE UNITED WEST) Clare Lopez of the Center for Security Policy, a member of the Benghazi Citizen’s Commission and former CIA intelligence officer, exposes Benghazi as a complete national security disaster resulting from the lack of leadership from President Barack Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

In part one, Lopez explains in simple detail exactly how the United States,  led by Clinton, aligned itself with the Muslim Brotherhood in a way that defies common sense and basic principles of foreign policy. The United West presents this three-part series as a national security context to better understand the blockbuster Hollywood movie, “13 Hours, the Secret Soldiers of Benghazi.“

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez8h4B-ndu4

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 01:38 | 7049382 Ward no. 6
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just makes me sick what happend to him. I will never forget the morning i woke up turned on my computer and saw scenes of his killing...

I couldn't believe it. I was in shock.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 04:03 | 7049521 Baron Munchausen
Fri, 01/15/2016 - 05:17 | 7049583 lakecity55
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It is scary to think of what all that Huma chick sent over the private hillserver to her MB operatives.

"The ambassador knows too much, and he is getting cold feet. You must take care of him."
"How will we escape blame?"
"We have a movie set up as a diversion."
"Wha- a movie? OK, whatever, alan's snackbar!"

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 01:04 | 7049335 jmcoombs
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In the history of mankind, I don't know that a bigger ass hole than her has ever run for political office.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 02:58 | 7049466 Victor999
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Actually, she is the latest to join a VERY long queue.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 01:45 | 7049384 Quebecguy
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Hillary cannot win. Her party, and her husband, have crashed the economy.  AND us N.H. folk don't like being disrespected by entitled assholes (whoever they may be) driving 100 m.p.h. on our highways with their entourage like they're the fucking Queen.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 01:48 | 7049404 Quebecguy
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Empeach the President, and her husband, too! Oops! Wrong administration, sorry!

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 02:02 | 7049414 gregga777
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Deliver Hillary Clinton to The Hague to stand trial for war crimes for the murder of Muammar Qaddafi.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 02:18 | 7049434 Quebecguy
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"What difference does it make?"

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 02:57 | 7049463 Victor999
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Dogs bark.  The Deep State moves on.

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 03:04 | 7049471 - - - - - -
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i dont know why you guys are complaining but my vote is for hillary

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

just joking

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 04:51 | 7049553 Hans Auf Meistuff
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Your post is just annoying. 

Fri, 01/15/2016 - 03:04 | 7049473 AlaricGaudiTheSecond
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Her muslim lover Huma Abedin is responsible

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