The Machines Are Going Mad - HFT Quote-Stuffing Desperation Spikes To Record High

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It appears - for now - that the machines are losing control. Amid the chaos of the last few days in US equities, Johnny 5 and his ilk have been quote-stuffing in desperation at the highest rate in history... but it's not working!!

 

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Thu, 01/14/2016 - 16:12 | 7047418 August
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Yep.  You know, I'm going to enjoy riding in the wagon for a change.

Nurse!  Bring me a bedpan now... or else.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 16:27 | 7047504 Jack Burton
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"the world continues to let us spend and borrow with zero or negative rates. No one will call our bluff." 

100% agree. As long as the world allows the USA to print dollars from thin air, that are as good as gold on the open markets of the world, nothing can stop USA!  Imagine any other country trying to simply print up fiat and then go buy trillions in good and services world wide. The USA does, and all the negative results appear in their fiat and economies.

It works. Only an insane person would cease printing when all the world is "The Sucker At The Table".

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 16:31 | 7047517 vega113
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It will work if they will succeed to decrease volatily in short and mid term. But since september volatility is on the rise with random spikes. That's what we should expect. If volatility would increase - eventually it will end up with flash crash. 

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 16:17 | 7047449 Minions
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What do they say again about what GOES UP...?

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 14:55 | 7047024 surf0766
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I hope the dow hits 25,000 by 3 PM

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 14:58 | 7047046 NEOSERF
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I MUST get an invite to that dark pool deep internet chatroom at 7AM every trading morning to decide which way WE are going to make the markets go today.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:41 | 7047250 Shleprock
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Stick save is on!!!

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 14:57 | 7047036 LawsofPhysics
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And all the pension funds (for those who have them) and government liabilites say, "Fuck you, pay me!!!"

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:01 | 7047052 vq1
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"Barack Obama (on TV): ...to reclaim the American dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth, that, out of many, we are one...

Driver: You hear that line? Line's for you.

Jackie Cogan: Don't make me laugh. One people. It's a myth created by Thomas Jefferson.

Driver: Oh, so now you're going to have a go at Jefferson, huh?

Jackie Cogan: My friend, Thomas Jefferson is an American saint because he wrote the words 'All men are created equal', words he clearly didn't believe since he allowed his own children to live in slavery. He's a rich white snob who's sick of paying taxes to the Brits. So, yeah, he writes some lovely words and aroused the rabble and they went and died for those words while he sat back and drank his wine and fucked his slave girl. This guy wants to tell me we're living in a community? Don't make me laugh. I'm living in America, and in America you're on your own. America's not a country. It's just a business. Now fuckin' pay me."

 

"killing them softly," pretty decent movie if you ask me. 

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 17:58 | 7048013 cheech_wizard
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Kudos to being the first to use that here on ZH. Caught that movie about 2 or 3 months ago. 

Standard Disclaimer: www.solarmovie.ph / www.geektv.me (because who needs fucking cable when you can watch what you want to watch when you want to watch it).

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 14:57 | 7047040 2ndamendment
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The machine are running at full speed cap'n!!! We need MOAR gerbils!!!

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 14:58 | 7047043 RaceToTheBottom
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The only Record High I care about is the one associated with Jumping WS'ers

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:01 | 7047055 buzzsaw99
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looks like it's working pretty good today

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:02 | 7047057 orangegeek
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Evil machines, you face The Tick!!

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:09 | 7047079 Dr. Engali
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The only thing that's working is that Bultard scared the shorts just before the retest of the 1867 low.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:14 | 7047104 orangegeek
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Bullard is the excuse.  The buying was lined up last night.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:07 | 7047070 cdude
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"... but it's not working!!"

S&P up 40+ so far and may even take back yesterday's decline. 

So, I would guess it IS working. Fuctup shite, but definetly working. Just likr it's been "working" for the past six years.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:15 | 7047100 Albertarocks
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Actually it's "not" working. That is an annual chart. Sure the markets are being cranked up today but it ain't going to last. If this degree of quote stuffing was working as planned, the markets would have to be at an all time high. This quote stuffing is just phony shit anyway. They're just entering orders they have no intention of having filled. To me this just reeks of panic. In years past, quote stuffing at new highs did correlate with new highs in the SPX, but not so far this time around. Crazier things have happened though. If the crooks all of a sudden start doing a lot of jaw-boning about more QE then yes, we might still see new all time highs. God damn their oily hides.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:17 | 7047126 cdude
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@Albertarocks

One can only hope!  

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:31 | 7047191 Albertarocks
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Yup, it's been infuriating that the markets have literally broken for way too long.  Normal price discovery is no longer possible.  When central planners (criminals) set the price for absolutely everything on the planet, they will absolutely wreck the machinery and lose everything.  But it seems like the deflation genie has finally popped the cork off his bottle and once deflation takes hold there is absolutely nothing the bankers can do about it.  No amount of money printing is going to cover the crash that's about to happen.  I mean, we're talking about $600T worth of derivatives.  That's 10x the entire global GDP for Christ's sake.  Nope, I think it's over.  I doubt very much that we see new highs until they unleash all the QE they can muster.  But they need an excuse to launch it and right now they sure don't have it.  It's going to take a market crash... but when that crash happens I'm almost certain it will get out of control.  So all the added QE is going to accomplish will be to slow the decline.  At least that's my plan.  lol

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:07 | 7047074 Bastiat
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They stepped as the market approached a critical level.  Bulltard gave the signal and the Fed or it's captive hedgefunds and banksters executed.  Let's see how long they can make it last.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:07 | 7047077 jtmo3
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Doesn't matter one bit. This is the new Bulltard moment. We will revisit the highs before it's over. Ye of little faith. Have you not see this play out, oh, 20 times in the last few years?

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:36 | 7047225 Mark Mywords
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Yep. I said the other day, we'll see 2000 again on the S&P. I hold to that sentiment, especially after Bulltard came out and talked up the markets again this morning.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:52 | 7047308 RhoneGSM
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Bullard is the "Market Whisperer". Reality show starts on "E" Feb. 15th.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 16:01 | 7047358 jtmo3
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They have more ways to goose this market any way they want, than you could ever imagine. This is their game, their market, their world, their baby. The FED has the world reserve currency. This is not a game played by amateurs. Do you really think the worlds largest bankers/banks and financial players are going to leave their money machine to the whims of the masses? If you believe that, you belong in an insane asylum.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:19 | 7047134 Dg4884
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PPT right on queue

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:22 | 7047150 besnook
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when i first started trading i used to spend 16hrs/day researching and doing due dilligence to find the right targets. as it turned out i just needed to review my basic math skills.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:53 | 7047313 RaceToTheBottom
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That was way back when there was Price Discovery.....

It will be something novel that you can tell your kids about.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:24 | 7047159 WTFUD
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Ah canny hold her much lan'er cap'in she's at warp factor 8.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:34 | 7047201 Yen Cross
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 I predict the Chicago crime rate would drop dramatically if all those disadvantaged youths were forced to read Z/H.

 That being said, I think I'm liking the R/R of an ES short right about now. I'll jump on the profit taking train>>>>

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 17:26 | 7047816 yellowsub
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That's assume the public education didn't fail them and they could read.

 

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:35 | 7047222 muppeteer
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deadcat bounce, i give it two, maybe three more updays before we break 1867. hft doesnt give a fuck where the market is going they just want to see volatility.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:35 | 7047224 Slowdrip
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Taking tomorrow off, three day bash at my place, the Hamptons, hookers and winky, til you drop... Make up for last weekend's spooked markets...

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:55 | 7047323 sgorem
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address please?.........and do you have room for my '91 gmc pickup in your yard? i'll bring the chips. thanks in advance 'drip..................

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:56 | 7047331 jakesdad
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so I take it they shot the hurrican party scene from "the affair" at your place?  how the hell do I get on your invite list?!?  :D

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 15:36 | 7047228 GoldenDonuts
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How high can a dead cat bounce?

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 16:05 | 7047376 neutrino3
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I would not be so worried. Zoroz is legalizing weed und "stuff", so there will be hapy ending.

fa-fa-faaa-faaa-faaa-faaa ... 

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 16:05 | 7047377 Peltast
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Time to put all Jews in the oven again.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 16:41 | 7047574 vega113
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And that's what will solve the problems? So, if Hitler just could burn more jews - everything would be fine now? LOL

It's not about jews, it's about crony capitalists. And there are a lot of jews among them for some reason. But it's not because they are jews. Probably just because jews have higher IQ on average.

So, easy solutions don't work, sorry.

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 18:03 | 7048041 fowlerja
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Oh no...is it your monthly period to get cynical again .. your crap is flowing from you mouth instead of your ass ...again... sounds like you are pointed in the wrong direction...let me give you a phone number to help you sort things out... 1.800.eat.shit

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 17:32 | 7047847 medium giraffe
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"Chappie's got a book!"

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 18:08 | 7048075 fowlerja
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Talked to a goldman sachie today... he said that HFT and quote stuffing were only one of many processes they use for "price discovery"... said the other used techniques were top secret and he was unable to share..

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 18:36 | 7048189 Tortuga
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Why would it work.

All that's left is regular algo's bumping into nano algo lasers that are bumping in to microwaves bumping into nano nano's with the echo's adding to the confusion.

____________________ whatever that german word is for "tough shit".

Thu, 01/14/2016 - 20:07 | 7048562 buzzy_the_pirate_dog
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Hey 4 the short term, es up or down  we still make money.let them stuff

 

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